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Is She Cheating?

  • 11-02-2006 9:43pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Hi, Long time reader and poster. Going very much unreg for this. Opinions needed.

    My girl and I both work for the same company. Lets say its a transport company where 2 people work together all the time.

    I was off today and when she came home I kissed her and it seemed ok. Then, when I went to play with her boobs, I noticed that her bra was bunched up with her boobs out of it. Both sides. She says that her bra just fell down and kept doing it all day. She also was talking a lot, utter nonsence to I feel cover up something.

    On her work shirt, Left pocket there is a white stain, about 1Cm by .5cm with downward droplets, and there is, when looked at through UV light a small patch further down. She says it was a hand cleanign agent that we use. I happen to have a bottle of this agent and have tested it on the other side of her shirt. No luiminessence or matching stain.

    I confronted her on it and she cried saying she couldn;t believe Ididn;t trust her. Now, I dont think I believe her. She's calmed down and is now asleep after I told her I believ her. I have tested her shirt with the Alternative Light Source and confirmed her story does not match up.

    Sorry about thelong post. she's right now asleep behind me. All the messages on her phone are from me, but that just tells me she is deleting the messages that are from others, Sent items are cleared.

    Any ideas? Am I right do u think


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,945 ✭✭✭Anima


    Wtf, you checked her shirt with a UV light? Not only that but you poured some kind of agent on to test if UV light could detect it? Are you ****ing insane or something? Tbh, I'd cry aswell if my boyfriend had done that, such a display of lack of trust. My god....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 184 ✭✭Brother To God


    Very bright idea with the uv light,I believe something is up!
    Questioning her will only give yourself grieve so try pry and
    keep an eye open.She is up to something and not being truthful,
    you have a right to know,either she can be honest (which is unlikely) or else you can go about finding the truth with uv light and questioning others.
    hope your investigation goes well!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,312 ✭✭✭pbsuxok1znja4r


    My advice to you is to forget about your girlfriend. It's imperative that you use your powers of investigation and deduction to single-handedly fight the scourge of crime.
    Go forth, now! For the good of the city...

    But seriously, regardless of whether she did something or not, this kind of suspicion and display of mis-trust will only make her wish she had. Be aware that if you go investigating this to the lengths you seem to want to, you will probably only convince yourself out of paranoia that something definitely happened. Or if you do find out that she's innocent of any wrongdoing, you may well have irrevocably damaged your relationship with her.

    Proceed with caution. Try to take her word for it, or at the least make her believe you do, lol. Hope it works out okay.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,390 ✭✭✭galwaydude


    have you ever had any reason not to trust her in the past. Has she ever cheated before?

    That stain could of been from anything mate, talk to your gf, dont accuse her just talk to her for her side of the story.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 317 ✭✭athena 2000


    You have a UV light source easily at hand? You are looking for something to be wrong. But you'd better start talking to her fast and not accusing her or you WILL lose her. Wow, CSI-ed in her own home..


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 483 ✭✭lazydaisy


    If she's not she soon will be if you keep up this controlling behavior. Or she will leave you.

    Do you know how violated she would feel if she knew what you were doing?

    You play with her breasts and then you check her call log. Ugh.

    You're lucky all she did was cry.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 217 ✭✭Gaillimhtaibhse


    Cheating? wrote:
    Hi, Long time reader and poster. Going very much unreg for this. Opinions needed.

    On her work shirt, Left pocket there is a white stain, about 1Cm by .5cm with downward droplets, and there is, when looked at through UV light a small patch further down.

    I have tested her shirt with the Alternative Light Source and confirmed her story does not match up.

    Any ideas?

    "Any ideas?" Here's one... Basic Instinct (1997), Act II, bedroom murder scene investigation, starring Michael Douglas. With their light source, they also used glasses to filter the light to reveal the "recreational" stains. Ever watch the movies? :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Honestly, the stain itself is not the main thing. I think the bunched up bra and how she was very very guarded and attempting to divert me when I noticed it, and only when i noticed it, that made me suspisious.

    galwaydude: Yes, she used to have a bit of a reputation as the work bike, but she said that stopped when we started getting serious. I just fear she's fallen into old ways with this new member of our team. Also she said the stain was from a gel we use to wash our hands without water. But it dries clear, not white as this does.

    athena 2000: Due to my work I have an ALS at home. I use it in a professional manner.

    scouser.tommy: I am preceeding with her thinking everything is ok. But I'll see what happens.

    There's no-one in work I can really question directly as we are both very popular in work and we are a close team. Also this happened on one of the vehicles while it was away I suspect. So the only 2 people that know the truth are her and him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,574 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    You mean someone spilled egg albumen on her shirt?

    Was it you?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,433 ✭✭✭kittenkiller


    So she's clear-headed enough to clear out any other messages on her phone but not smart enough to clean jiz-stains off her clothes or keep her baps in her bread-bin???
    Especially when you have UV lights at home & go in for a grope as soon as you see her?

    Sounds a bit iffy.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 545 ✭✭✭MarinoMark


    Sounds like she received a "Pearl Necklase" all right ! Maybe just ask her again and accept her answer. Sounds like a "this is not what it seems" Scenario, Happened to a mate of mine. She may well be innocent. Give her the benefit of the doubt and let her at least have a cup of tea when she comes home from work before making a beeline for her chest !


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 7,486 ✭✭✭Red Alert


    sounds very iffy if you ask me. you could always check last dialled numbers - just hit Green/Yes/Call on nokias and you'll see it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,658 ✭✭✭✭The Sweeper


    So your girlfriend came home in a state of unease, with muddled underclothing and potential semen stains on her clothes and became hysterical very quickly when questioned.

    Any chance your girlfriend could have been sexually assaulted by this person?

    Because I don't know about the rest of you, but a bra that's on crossways is really, REALLY bloody uncomfortable. In fact, I don't know anyone that wouldn't stop to fix such a thing. Unless they were in a state of extreme distress. Made worse by their boyfriend immediatley trying to initiate sexual contact and then turning into the cast of CSI Las Vegas.

    Why don't you shine a light in her eyes when she wakes up?


  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Adele Lively Vent


    So your girlfriend came home in a state of unease, with muddled underclothing and potential semen stains on her clothes and became hysterical very quickly when questioned.

    Any chance your girlfriend could have been sexually assaulted by this person?

    Because I don't know about the rest of you, but a bra that's on crossways is really, REALLY bloody uncomfortable. In fact, I don't know anyone that wouldn't stop to fix such a thing. Unless they were in a state of extreme distress. Made worse by their boyfriend immediatley trying to initiate sexual contact and then turning into the cast of CSI Las Vegas.

    Why don't you shine a light in her eyes when she wakes up?

    I agree.

    tbh I think the boyfriend is a little obsessive and nuts. Going for her breasts, doing UV and comparison tests?
    If she hasn't told you she was assaulted if she was, I'm not sure I'm surprised :|

    First off, someone who is cheating and doesn't think to check their shirt for stains is one thing, but anyone with half a brain would fix muddled underwear. My own bra does tend to get muddled up a little bit and it's bloody uncomfortable - I'd fix it asap. And thats not taking removing cheating evidence into account, which you think she might be


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,844 ✭✭✭py2006


    keep her baps in her bread-bin???

    .

    HAHA Brilliant!

    Seriously, your either extrememly paranoid guy or your watching to much CSI!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,648 ✭✭✭smiles


    I dont blame her for being upset at you!!!

    TBH, if the first thing you do when you see her is "go to play with her boobs" then this is a seriously weird relationship.

    The stain could be anything, milk from a drink, old detergent stain, etc.

    If her bra is a bit too big/small then it could explain the "bulging"....

    sorry, this whole situation with you doing the CSI is a bit freaky.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 688 ✭✭✭skye


    Cheating? wrote:
    Yes, she used to have a bit of a reputation as the work bike, but she said that stopped when we started getting serious.

    Sounds to me like you still have this thought in the back of your mind and you are now going at it full on to "prove" that she is in fact cheating on you. Jesus man - give the girl a break! Perhaps a bit more trust from you is required - I mean you really have no reson to doubt her other than your own paranoia. Get over yourself, if you keep this up she will definately leave you - and who would blame her??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,757 ✭✭✭bohsboy


    Your post is actually quite scary. You really need to chill out man.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 71 ✭✭Roy16


    We could call be wrong but i always think once you starting questions girlfriends and they break down in tears then they are the first tell, tell signs that something is not right. Then on the other hand she could be telling the truth as well, but im not to sure she is (they only cry to make you feel bad) I would'nt do this myself but one thing you could do is to follow her? I know a lot people say that is sad blah,blah...but i know loads of people who have followed there girlfriends/boyfriends and found them to be cheating, but there were some who were doing part-time course's at night (dont ask)..The checking of her mobile, she would want to be very blonde if she didn't delete her mgs, sent items and dialed and received calls from call register.

    i think follow sometime and put your mind at ease.........


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,314 ✭✭✭Talliesin


    Cheating? wrote:
    Am I right do u think
    I hope so. Would make it likely she'd find herself with someone less insane quite soon. Jeez, and I thought my ex was paranoid! You have issues.

    See a counseller.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,485 ✭✭✭✭Ickle Magoo


    Cheating? wrote:
    Hi, Long time reader and poster. Going very much unreg for this. Opinions needed.

    My girl and I both work for the same company. Lets say its a transport company where 2 people work together all the time.

    I was off today and when she came home I kissed her and it seemed ok. Then, when I went to play with her boobs, I noticed that her bra was bunched up with her boobs out of it. Both sides. She says that her bra just fell down and kept doing it all day. She also was talking a lot, utter nonsence to I feel cover up something.

    On her work shirt, Left pocket there is a white stain, about 1Cm by .5cm with downward droplets, and there is, when looked at through UV light a small patch further down. She says it was a hand cleanign agent that we use. I happen to have a bottle of this agent and have tested it on the other side of her shirt. No luiminessence or matching stain.

    I confronted her on it and she cried saying she couldn;t believe Ididn;t trust her. Now, I dont think I believe her. She's calmed down and is now asleep after I told her I believ her. I have tested her shirt with the Alternative Light Source and confirmed her story does not match up.

    Sorry about thelong post. she's right now asleep behind me. All the messages on her phone are from me, but that just tells me she is deleting the messages that are from others, Sent items are cleared.

    Any ideas? Am I right do u think

    :eek: :confused: I think you need to watch less CSI!!

    Firstly, I have a couple of bra's that are slightly too small for me depending on where I am in my cycle and my boobs end up getting squished and half falling out.....no rumaging by third party required.....I imagine your g/f knows how paranoid you are & if she were cheating she would have the good sense to put her breasts back in her bra before getting home...I imagine the guarded nervous behaviour was more likely to be caused by the knowledge of just how paranoid and insecure you are and how you were likely to interpret things....incidentally, if the first thing my husband did when I got home was to give the mayo stain on my shirt a dubious look then stick his hands up to cop a feel, then I would start gibering as well.....that kind of behaviour makes me nervous....

    So based on the fact that she has spilt something on her shirt....something which has left a white stain....so it can obviously only be semen.....and the fact that she was wearing a badly fitting bra, you start doing chemical analysis and snooping in her phone??!! What did you confront her with? The test results and the fact you knew what numbers she kept in her phone? I'd be crying too - and thinking for a way to escape!! I think you have severe insecurity issues you need to deal with and you need to stop projecting those issues onto your g/f.....Best of luck :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,496 ✭✭✭Mr. Presentable


    I have no opinion on whether she is cheating or not, except this: 9 times out of 10, if a person suspects their partner of being unfaithful, they are. It's usually in your psyche before the evidence starts to confirm it - sub-consiously you will have been picking up on little signs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,375 ✭✭✭padser


    Cheating? wrote:
    I was off today and when she came home I kissed her and it seemed ok. Then, when I went to play with her boobs, I noticed that her bra was bunched up with her boobs out of it. Both sides. She says that her bra just fell down and kept doing it all day. She also was talking a lot, utter nonsence to I feel cover up something.

    On her work shirt, Left pocket there is a white stain, about 1Cm by .5cm with downward droplets, and there is, when looked at through UV light a small patch further down. She says it was a hand cleanign agent that we use. I happen to have a bottle of this agent and have tested it on the other side of her shirt. No luiminessence or matching stain.

    I confronted her on it and she cried saying she couldn;t believe Ididn;t trust her. Now, I dont think I believe her. She's calmed down and is now asleep after I told her I believ her. I have tested her shirt with the Alternative Light Source and confirmed her story does not match up.

    Sorry about thelong post. she's right now asleep behind me. All the messages on her phone are from me, but that just tells me she is deleting the messages that are from others, Sent items are cleared.

    You are an absolute legend. I am thinking of using this post as my signature.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,374 ✭✭✭Gone West


    Meet me at drop point A at zero four hundred hours.
    Come alone(teh punnage) and don't be followed.
    Bring the shirt, and what ever DNA you have. Pull out a few hairs while shes sleeping.
    Bring $15k in unmarked non-sequential mixed $20 and $50 bills.




    err: In other words, go get some counselling.


  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Adele Lively Vent


    nipplenuts wrote:
    I have no opinion on whether she is cheating or not, except this: 9 times out of 10, if a person suspects their partner of being unfaithful, they are. It's usually in your psyche before the evidence starts to confirm it - sub-consiously you will have been picking up on little signs.
    If you spend your time expecting someone to cheat, they possibly will. Guess why :|


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 520 ✭✭✭Xcom2


    Try this

    http://www.wheretofindout.net/969410.html

    Every batcave should have one!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,048 ✭✭✭Amazotheamazing


    You (the OP) Sir, are crazy.


  • Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 9,072 Mod ✭✭✭✭Aquos76


    padser wrote:
    You are an absolute legend. I am thinking of using this post as my signature.


    I actually had a link to this thread in my signature for a good while today. It has to go down as the best thread ever on boards.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 217 ✭✭Gaillimhtaibhse


    padser wrote:
    You are an absolute legend. I am thinking of using this post as my signature.

    :rolleyes:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,341 ✭✭✭✭Chucky the tree


    i am amazed he hasnt already thought of taking her shirt and trying to geti t tested to see excactly what it is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Maybe its breast milk. And she has a secret love child. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Well, to tell you the truth, Yes I have tested the stain.

    All you Ney sayers will be suprised. It IS semen. And as I know that shirt was clean (I washed it) before she went to work, and I had no sexual activity with her in that shirt at that time, it isn;t mine.

    So, I have kicked her and her stuff out.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,341 ✭✭✭✭Chucky the tree


    Cheating wrote:
    Well, to tell you the truth, Yes I have tested the stain.

    All you Ney sayers will be suprised. It IS semen. And as I know that shirt was clean (I washed it) before she went to work, and I had no sexual activity with her in that shirt at that time, it isn;t mine.

    So, I have kicked her and her stuff out.





    I love you it. You sir, are a god.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 688 ✭✭✭skye


    So you were right - move on.... Feel sorry for your next Gf though - Detective "cheating" will be on her case from the start....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,375 ✭✭✭padser


    If she is asleep now you have a good 6/7 hours until she wakes. Why dont you get a lie decting machine, take a crash corse in interpereting the results, hook her up to, tie her up and spend tomorrow interogating her propoerly. For more suggestions on interogation techniques see 24, series 1-4. My personal favorite would be to get her parents/friends and tie them to chairs, hook up a video link and stage their execution that she can see via a video monitor,,,,that really ought to get the truth out of her. One thing i would check before you start though.....you must look in her mouth to check she doesnt have a suicide pill in there for emergencies.


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  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Adele Lively Vent


    Cheating wrote:
    Well, to tell you the truth, Yes I have tested the stain.

    All you Ney sayers will be suprised. It IS semen. And as I know that shirt was clean (I washed it) before she went to work, and I had no sexual activity with her in that shirt at that time, it isn;t mine.

    So, I have kicked her and her stuff out.
    And about the post suggesting assault?

    Anyway, it's probably best in all regards she's gone. You can stop being all paranoid now.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 301 ✭✭marie_85


    David Caruso has nothing on you... I want to ask how you went about testing it, but not sure I want to know.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,403 ✭✭✭passive


    Wow... I'm.. disturbed. But also impressed! So... did she admit it when you could prove it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,192 ✭✭✭Dathai


    You are, an utter legend :)

    To be honest with you, I'd do the exact same thing as you did.Sure, Ive done the equivellent I'd say.

    Good work man!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,230 ✭✭✭scojones


    How are you so sure it was semen? How exactly did you test it? I'm not convinced.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 183 ✭✭lizanne


    oh good god

    HOW can you people praise this nut job for this

    Fact of life- if you put on a bra and its in any way a wrong fit it WILL fall down- im a woman ok- and it does happen

    Whats buzz is he on testing her clothes- who does he think he is- Inspector Morse?

    If my boyfriend EVER did this He would be out on the street- and he could keep the bra as a parting gift

    Plus what kind of person goes on a forum about it!! I am sorry but he needs help!!!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,046 ✭✭✭Dustaz


    rofl, this thread is great.

    Pretty sure this is a troll, but just in case its not, i have a couple of points.

    Is there a law against copping a feel of your girlfriends tits all of a sudden? It seems that all the women read his OP as "She came in the door and i dived down her top". I assumed he meant over a perdiod of time after she returned home and im not finding anything really too strange about that.

    Secondly, while im not running out to buy a blacklight anytime soon, Im pretty sure most of the guys on the thread would use one if they had it to hand.

    I guess i agree with the guy who posted that if something strikes you as suspicious, its probably because youve noticed it sub concsiously for a while.

    I await the conclusion of this with baited breath.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Well, you asked how I tested this and I will tell you.

    I used a substance called "Acid phosphatase". It is an enzyme secreted by the prostate gland that is present in seminal fluid. It's very like psa (prostatic specific antigen) The enzymatic breakdown of sodium-α-naphthyl phosphate by acid phosphatase and the subsequent conversion of o-dianisidine to a colored compound by the free naphthyl is a recognized test procedure for the detection of semen. Basically moisten the area, swab it and test with 1 drop of Acid phosphatase. Eliminates all doubt.

    And yes, she did confess when I showed her the test result, and may have lied a little saying that I had done DNA comparissan. But a little white lie can bring out a big one.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 60 ✭✭goldilocked


    I know you've gone unreg'd but can I guess that you've red hair, talk in disjointed sentences and prefer the side profile?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,844 ✭✭✭py2006


    lizanne wrote:
    oh good god

    HOW can you people praise this nut job for this

    Fact of life- if you put on a bra and its in any way a wrong fit it WILL fall down- im a woman ok- and it does happen

    Whats buzz is he on testing her clothes- who does he think he is- Inspector Morse?

    If my boyfriend EVER did this He would be out on the street- and he could keep the bra as a parting gift

    Plus what kind of person goes on a forum about it!! I am sorry but he needs help!!!!!

    In all fairness, while it does sound completely crazy, I am sure alot of women would be doing the same kind of investigations if they had access to that kind of equipment to check up on their men! :p

    Thats assuming they had genuine reasons to doubt their partners!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,183 ✭✭✭Fey!


    Cheating - you should hook up with my ex, but your kids would be ultra-paranoid. She always assumed I was cheating all the time (I had been seeing someone else when we met first, which I had admitted, but not for the the following 3 1/2 years we were together!) She'd check my phone on a regular basis, deleted numbers from my phone and email addresses off my computer (most of them were customers of mine), and I know a friend spotted her following me. It got to a stage where I got s new number and texted some rather choice messages to my regular mobile to see what happened (childish, I know, but desperate measures!).
    In the end, due to her paranoia, I did consider cheating on her, but didn't go through with it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,249 ✭✭✭✭Kinetic^


    Its pretty stale that you had to go to such lenghts to prove she was cheating on you. I hope you gave her the flick.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 272 ✭✭December Son


    Cheating? wrote:
    Well, you asked how I tested this and I will tell you.

    I used a substance called "Acid phosphatase". It is an enzyme secreted by the prostate gland that is present in seminal fluid. It's very like psa (prostatic specific antigen) The enzymatic breakdown of sodium-α-naphthyl phosphate by acid phosphatase and the subsequent conversion of o-dianisidine to a colored compound by the free naphthyl is a recognized test procedure for the detection of semen. Basically moisten the area, swab it and test with 1 drop of Acid phosphatase. Eliminates all doubt.

    And yes, she did confess when I showed her the test result, and may have lied a little saying that I had done DNA comparissan. But a little white lie can bring out a big one.
    Holy sh!t!! :eek:
    Dude if i ever start having doubts about my woman can i get you to take a look?? Just pm me your regged name..lol. But sweet jesus thats some detective work son. My hat goes off to you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 331 ✭✭Morrigan


    Cheating? wrote:
    Well, you asked how I tested this and I will tell you.

    I used a substance called "Acid phosphatase". It is an enzyme secreted by the prostate gland that is present in seminal fluid. It's very like psa (prostatic specific antigen) The enzymatic breakdown of sodium-α-naphthyl phosphate by acid phosphatase and the subsequent conversion of o-dianisidine to a colored compound by the free naphthyl is a recognized test procedure for the detection of semen. Basically moisten the area, swab it and test with 1 drop of Acid phosphatase. Eliminates all doubt.

    And yes, she did confess when I showed her the test result, and may have lied a little saying that I had done DNA comparissan. But a little white lie can bring out a big one.

    LOL Of course she confessed! It's her key out of this hellish relationship! ROFL!!!
    This has been the most entertaining thread. Thanks. :v:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,844 ✭✭✭py2006


    Cheating wrote:
    Well, to tell you the truth, Yes I have tested the stain.

    All you Ney sayers will be suprised. It IS semen. And as I know that shirt was clean (I washed it) before she went to work, and I had no sexual activity with her in that shirt at that time, it isn;t mine.

    So, I have kicked her and her stuff out.

    Ah, I didn't realise you had posted this! Fair play to you. You can now feel justified in what you did.

    I am glad you got rid of her!


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