US: 2X13 - "The long con" [**SPOILERS WITHIN**]

Peace

US: 2X13 - "The long con"

- WARNING: THIS THREAD WILL CONTAIN SPOILERS FOR THOSE WHO HAVE NOT YET SEEN "FIRE + WATER" -

Episode Title: "The Long Con"
Airdate: Feburary 8th 2006

Synopsis (from TV.Com):

Sun is injured during a kidnapping attempt, and the survivors fear that the Others have returned. Meanwhile, tension between Jack, Locke, Kate and Ana Lucia mounts, and Sawyer is an amused---and very interested---bystander.

Next New Episode: 2X14 - "One of Them" - February 15th 2006

Peace

7

I only stepped in due to the noteable absence of our great leaders..... if i screwed it up don't flame me.

Beruthiel

8

fair play peace
for a day there, I thought there was no episode this week, thanks!

Basq

8

Thanks for that Peace... i think my episode Discussion Thread on Monday for "Man Of Science, Man Of Faith" (for the RTE viewers) threw me right off.

Just remembered to do it now.. while i was sitting down to watch the episode!

Thanks again!

Beruthiel

8

falling down on the job there Bas
don't let it happen again or steps will have to be taken....

sprinkles

7

looking forward to this one......can't wait to get home

Cina

Good episode I thought. People will probably disagree with me because not a lot happens plot wise, but Sawyer is probably my favourite character and his backstorys are always pretty decent. This one didn't disappoint me either, I'm glad they are bringing back the old Sawyer, and not turning him into a good guy, which seemed to be the way they were going.
I'd say 7/10 for it, much better than ep 12.

plonk

Good job peace. Personally I am getting fed up of Lost,its just not moving quick enough.Another slow episode about Sawyer. 5/10

steveland?

Disappointed in you basquille

Thanks to Peace and anotherlostie for both stepping in when we dropped the ball :v:

Kiith

7

thought that was a very good episode. had a much darker end to it then most episodes lately. and sawyer back on form was cool.

Anima

8

Yeah great episode. Lots of cast interaction and some nice twists in there. Thought there was gonna be a cliff hanger with the whole radio thing but I guess it wasn't on the cards.

Good ep anyway.

balkieb2002

6

yeah liked it a lot more than the last episode and it seems charlie is now an even more darker character than sawyer.

yeah Anima was expecting some new message or something too but seems they're not doing same stories as first season

I can see the next episode being about Sayid (?) backstory as we haven't got one from him for a good while now and he featuring prominently these past eps.

hardCopy

7

Nice litle cross-over there with Kate's mam working in the diner

anotherlostie

7

I enjoyed this episode, as someone else said there was a lot of interaction between the various cast members this week, and we pretty much saw everyone on screen.

Sawyer was a devious so and so! I was sure that Ana-Lucia has been the guilty one as soon as it happened, and never saw Charlie's involvement coming. Looks like he may become Sawyer's little helper now. Glad to see evil Sawyer back on track, and makes the RTE promo seem more realistic now too.

And Oops, for forgetting the poll in the other thread. And double-Oops for saying it was Kate-centric. I recognised Beth Broderick's name in the guest cast list and put 2 and 2 together, getting 7.

Sawyer's backstory was cool - tightly edited, leaving plenty of time for real time action on screen. He seems to have interacted with more of them in the past - Jack's Dad, Kate's mom, Boone, Hurley's lottery girl.

Really looking forward to who's back next week...

steveland?

Liked it a lot. Thought the back story was good and the little nod to Kate's mother was cool.

It'll be interesting to see where they're going with the army storyline now since they have no control over the guns. Charlie's going down a dark path, didn't see it being him attacking coming at all. Good to see he's more than likely not going back to the drugs since another Charlie/drugs storyline would just be boring but I can see a face-off with him and Locke soon.

I don't know where they're going with Sawyer or his motives behind stealing the guns (trying to get control over the group or just trying to make them hate him?) but it's good to see him back as the bastard of the show. I wasn't liking where they were going with him becoming such a "nice guy"... Once a bastard, always a bastard and so on...

Sherifu

8

Trouble in the camp for the losties.
Charlie and Sawyer Vs. the rest.
Didn't expect them working together
after their spat on the beach.
The highlight for me was their meeting
at the end in the jungle.
Very good ep. 8.5

monomaniac

8

Just watched the episode - thought it was brilliant! With the running theme of the "long con" I was expecting a big sawyer con on the island story (the one in the flashback was predictable enough) but the Charlie involvment with Sun knocked me for six. When Kate asked Sawyer how he obtained the guns I thought it would be another Lost mystery that would never be explained.

Sawyer using Kate to frame Ana-Lolo - genius! He convinced me and probably most people that watched the episode.

So is Kate's theory on why Sawyer took the guns correct? Does he really just want to be hated or has some other agenda?

Was disappointed with the Kate's mum crossover - knew this was coming but based on the comments made in this week's podcast was expecting swomething more significant. To quote Herc on AintItCoolNews -

"I think we’re soon going to need something to explain these coincidences; it's no longer enough to merely pile them upon each other. "

I mean like what's next - Hurley's grandfather (who died after he won the lottery) walked past Jack's wife's ex-fiance's friend who happened to be the same guy that Ana-Lolo threatened with a gun for holding a TV who has a brother who walked past Locke in the toy store!

I was disappointed with the ending (post Charlie revelation). When Sawyer looked at the photo of him and Cassidy I was really hoping that it would pan across to another photo that showed Cassidy and Kate. So Sawyer was in Kate's home town ( I think this was Austin) - wow... what a coincidence!! Unless there's some future significance who cares.
Or maybe the writers are getting a bit carried away with the easter eggs - the last episode being a prime example (plane crashing in background, and an unreadable construction sign). We love to dig... but only if there's something worth digging for!!!!

Sorry about the semi-drunken rant - hopefully someone agrees with me. Great episode regardless.

Oh and Bernard's a dentist - another useful person for the "utopian society". Maybe none of it really is a coincedence!

So that would rule out him being the same Bernard from the Pilot's deleted scene in Exodus III (DVD deleted scene).

Trippie

This is the preview of next weeks episodes it looks like a good one

http://www.tv.com/lost/one-of-them/episode/593974/summary.html

cregser

8

Sawyer's back! The show needs him. Didn't see the Charlie twist. Even thought it was gonna be Anna Lucia right until he showed his face. I don't think Sawyer planned the whole thing. I think he played the nice guy routine and bided his time until Kate trusted him to deal with Locke about the guns and he just thought then of Charlie. If you work backwards, Charlie won't be so hard to figure out for the losties - at least not for Kate who knows Sawyer didn't act alone.

Good ep. It's nice to have a decent story neatly fitted into one episode. Now if they can just mix that with some plot advancement then they'll be back to season 1's standard (although Sawyer becoming alpha male is arguably decent advancement).

Favourite line: "Good thing you don't hate me, freckles".

EDIT: Just saw next weeks preview

and it looks like major plot advancement. Made you look!

Mr E

8

The closing shot of the last episode had charlie putting on his hood. When they found the hood half way through this episode, I knew it was Charlie...... I didn't see Sawyers island con coming, though.

A great episode all round.... A solid 9.

Chevano Riley

8

hell, yes. my mouse was hovering for a little while over 10... but i held back. ill save that milestone for an ep with a great island bit and a great flashback. sawyers here wasnt too shabby, and it was tied in well with the island action... probably a little too well - just the same story twice.

loved to see a plot that involved almost everyone. i dont think there was a not-dead original cast member left without a line.

and a bit of pace - about time. watching the "previously on lost" bit and seeing beardy man i figured this would deal with the others, and believed that for some bit into. but, damn em if the writers didnt pull a con on me.

9/10

sephirosis

8

Like last week, i think that this episode was technically excellent. The self contained story was excellent, as were the flashbacks. What struck me more so was how well they tied in together, more so than most weeks. We got the first insight of just how far Sawyer will go to get what he wants and a look at his true values. Kate would be a fool to trust him, but it seems as though she will. And it will be interesting to see if he actually changes for her or if his selfishness will keep him manipulating her for advantage over the others.
Conflict is the driving force of drama, and this episode really sets up an immensely tense and conflict ridden future for the survivors. Sawyers plotting will have sowed seeds of discontent throughout the whole crew, and these will continue to grow as they realise Sun's attacker is someone they know. His actions have put a wedge between himself and Kate. The hostility between himself and Jack is at its worst, and he wont have made a friend of Locke. He also exposed the huge trust issues between jack and Locke. Ana Lucia, trying to unite the crew against a common enemy has been alienated by jack's suspicion. Finally, expect major sparks between Charlie and Locke as we may see the first case of true hatred between the survivors. All this makes the upcoming episodes very, very enticing. I do get the feeling there will be some big plot developments in the nest few episodes, and that these last two episodes have been just setting up relations the way the writers want them to be for whatever is in store.
I also liked Sayid and Hurley's interaction. Sayid had looked like he was going to go nuts as of late, but Hurley made a good move by giving him something to focus on and as they got the signal going Sayid looked really positive like he had something to work for again. That fireside scene they had was especially interesting for two reasons. First, Hurley's "mystery book" manuscript. For anyone interested it was called "Bad Twin" by "Gary Troup" (published by Hyperion press 2001!). Anyway does anyone think it was an easter egg referring to the writers"manuscript" that was released across the net around the end of the last series with the plot scene that Jack was attacked by a clone of himself? i just thought since it was just a throw away comment that it might have just been for fun. Also Hurley's "any time" comment in reference to the radio signal was also interesting.
Anyway all in all great episode, hopefully setting up some great episodes, i'll give it a 9 over all.

stevejazzx

6

ah

found this episode a little slow, sawyers con with his lover was predictable despite it having three big twists,
the con on the island with locke is interesting, what would be clever (perhaps too clever) is if Locke is actually double bluffing sawyer by allowing him to have the guns,
charlie helping sawyer is very interesting, ultimately he'll be a goodie i think,
it's begining to look like the characters are being tested?
hurleys remark
'or any time' is uber mysterious, how they're gonna explain interdimensional time shifts i don't know.......
see that sneaky look from anna lucia? she wants them guns bad!
jack is not leading but rather he's being led...
there is a spy in their midsts, one of their pepole is either an other or a scientist!

Basq

8

Yep, i know.... i slipped this week in forgetting to put up our episode discussion thread.. won't happen again!

A solid 9-er episode.. loved lots of stuff about this episode!

'The Long Con' storyline was fantastic though - lot of good twists and turns in it. Couldn't see the ending with Charlie and Sawyer in cahoots but it made fantastic viewing. Loved the general idea of both Charlie and Sawyer forming a plan to get payback on their nemesises (i use that term loosely!) - Jack and Locke.

Think the attempted abduction of Sun will come up again at some point and will not leave Charlie in a good light at all (even more so than he already is). But i think the refusal of the drugs will be his redemption as the end of it all! Speaking of which, Charlie is turning into an extremely dark character. I don't think it's just due to his altercation with Locke but in general, the character seems to be getting more and more ostracised from the rest of the group (though with the plotline last week, can you blame them?) and it's showing.

Good to see Kevin Dunn (who played Gordy) again - why does he get such little work nowadays?

Fantastic to see Sayid again - seems like ever since Shannon died, we've been seeing less and less of him and when we do see him, he's extremely mopey and wallowing in his own pity. But good ol' Hurley brought a smile to his face. Again, we need more Hurley dialogue ("lime in the coconut.." ... i laughed!). Loved his comments during the attempt to get a signal. "Whoa whoa... it's Danielle's distress call.. ah crap!"

TmB wrote:

The closing shot of the last episode had charlie putting on his hood. When they found the hood half way through this episode, I knew it was Charlie...... I didn't see Sawyers island con coming, though.

Likewise here... knew the dark hood was Charlies alright but kept wondering why he would have just left it at the scene of the crime.

Anyways, i could say a hundred more things about this episode but i gotta do some project work.

Solid 9 / 10 from me. Let's hope we get a couple of more 9-er's in the coming weeks!

digiman

7

I gave it an 8, thought it was a very good episode, I was sure it was Anna Lucia that took Sun, but I never seen Charlie being involved at all, looking back it was pretty obvious but thats easy to say now. As usual I am not going to watch the preview, I used to like looking at them but since about episode 4 of this year I don't want to ever know anything about future episodes of Lost again!!

monkeyfudge

6

Yep. This was a pretty good episode. I enjoyed it a lot.

Was that a reference to the movie Bottle Rocket when Sawyer puts the plaster over his nose before the con? Owen Wilson did the same thing before robbing a bookstore in Bottle Rocket.

Basq

8

monkeyfudge wrote:

Was that a reference to the movie Bottle Rocket when Sawyer puts the plaster over his nose before the con? Owen Wilson did the same thing before robbing a bookstore in Bottle Rocket.

Thought the exact same thing... if so, it's nice to see a little homage to Wes Anderson!

viking

We see Locke in the hatch "alphabetising" the books, the title of the one in his hands is "An Occurrence at Owl Creek Bridge".

The plot from Wikipedia says:

"An Occurrence at Owl Creek Bridge" is the story of a man who is sentenced to death by hanging at the Owl Creek Bridge of the title.

When he is hanged the rope breaks and the main character falls into the water, from which he begins a journey back to his home. During his journey, he starts to feel some strange physiological events that ultimately end with a searing pain in his neck. It turns out that the man never escaped; he imagined the entire thing during the time between being pushed off the bridge and the noose finally breaking his neck.

monkeyfudge

6

viking wrote:

We see Locke in the hatch "alphabetising" the books, the title of the one in his hands is "An Occurrence at Owl Creek Bridge".

There certainly seems to be a theme running through the collection of books there.

Actually Locke seemed to be leafing through the pages to see if anything was in there.

jor el

7

Can't really say much more than has already been said I guess. I gave it an 8 as it was a very good episode, but not quite 9 material.

Never saw the Sawyer doublecross in the flashback (conning Gordy aswell as yer one) or the island coming, nor Charlie being a part of it. It's good to have him back to form though. I suppose it's not surprising since they've only been on the island for about two months and there's no way he would have changed in that short amount of time.

Who's going to start buying guns off Sawyer now I wonder? I'll bet Ana Lucia will be one of the first anyway.

monkeyfudge

6

jor el wrote:

Who's going to start buying guns off Sawyer now I wonder? I'll bet Ana Lucia will be one of the first anyway.

Ha... but what does she have to offer other than hot latino loving?

stevejazzx

6

re: locke

it looked like locke was trying to find something hidden in one of the books.
he was holding them upside down and opening the pages expecting something to fall out! any ideas on what he was looking for?

jor el

7

monkeyfudge wrote:

Ha... but what does she have to offer other than hot latino loving?

You know, I was thinking the exact same thing. Perhaps a spin-off show is in the making - Lost:Nights

stevejazzx wrote:

any ideas on what he was looking for?

Well Eko did find film hidden in a bible in their "Hatch" area. Maybe Locke is going through all the books in the hope of finding a secret hiding place for some valuable new information?

robinph

8

hardCopy wrote:

Nice litle cross-over there with Kate's mam working in the diner

I knew that I was supposed to recognise the waitress as soon as I heard her taking Saywers order in the diner but I just couldn't figure out which character she was related to. Thats the problem with them leaving so long between episodes I guess my memory starts to fade.

Rollo Tamasi

9

i haven't read much of this thread yet, i'm too hungover to be concentrating. I'll be back with my thoughts, i'm sure you are all dying to hear my many words of wizdom anyway.


I'm going to have to watch this episode again to recall how great it was. Best episode of series 2.

My first ever 10.

mada999

8

Gary Troup

anagram of purgatory ??

doh.ie

7

mada999 wrote:

anagram of purgatory ??

So it is. Nice one. (Though I suspect it's the producers' nod to the fan theory which they've dismissed more than anything real in plot terms. Or maybe it was originally meant to be the ending but dismissed once it came up among fans as a possible solution.)

doh.ie

7

OK, quite enjoyed 'The Long Con', but with some reservations. I'd give it an 8.

* The Sawyer flashback was very entertaining (compare with any of Jack's) In particular, the playing out of the cons when he was mentoring Cassidy, the fact she sussed the briefcase bursting open was itself a con, and the ultimate pay-off were great fun to watch. The flashback's ending was both strong and weak in that it was somewhat obvious she would be the victim regardless of how it appeared to play out otherwise, but yet Sawyer's own internal conflict over his choice redeemed it for me.)

* The Sawyer Island Con part of the story was great because the Ana-Lucia involvement was my first though (before it was suggested by Sawyer) - how helpful we had a scene with AL which suggested people needed convincing of the threat just a few minutes earlier! I like the way this played out, and how the two stories tied together. I'm inclined towards Kate's explanation for why Sawyer did it - he didn't need the guns, life was going smoothly, but there's some part of him that can't stand the idea of being liked/loved/treated well by others, and so he flipped and decided to give them an excuse to hate him. My primary reservation is that while dramatically this works quite well (Sephirosis is right - conflict is the heart of good drama, so this - and Charlie's ep - are setting up a much bigger on-island element down the line. It may seem pedantic and stand-alone plotwise right now, but this is certainly the driving force for the on-island plots for the rest of the season. I suspect there may be a choice to betray the Losties to join the Others/Dharma for Charlie or Sawyer down the line.)

* Charlie: I have a problem with his only wanting to take part in the con to get back at 'the bald wanker.' OK, so he was humiliated and felt small, but I thought he was a bigger person, and could at least see that Locke had helped him in the past. Now, if he *had* been on drugs in 2x12, and if he now desperately wanted a fix, surely THAT would be the perfect way to explain why he'd do something so awful to Sun. He just wasn't set up to us as a violent guy, so for him to do that to Sun without any reason other than revenge and a wish to show up Locke just doesn't add up. As I say, if drugs were involved, we can all buy the idea that someone will do pretty much anything to satisfy that hunger. I can't see why they missed the opportunity not to have this explain Charlie's behaviour. Definitely something I'd have changed. (For those who say Charlie's better off not rerunning the drugs plot, I can't say that having him on drugs would be to the detriment of his character at the moment. If anything, it would help support the reason he's acting the way he is.)

* Hurley/Sayid/The radio: as an on-island plot, this was very satisfying. (If they drop things like this in regularly, it will help balance out the episodes where we feel not enough about the island itself is being revealed.) When Hurley first showed up with her coconut/coconut and lime small talk, it reminded me of Stewie from Family Guy and his "writing a book? writing a novel, huh? etc" conversation with Brian. I agree Bernard is now not likely to be the one discussed in the Exodus III deleted flashback (unless he was a very rich dentist). Interesting to see 'Bad Twin' show up - presume this will crop up again, and that wasn't to be its only mention.

* Has anyone else realised we haven't seen Cavetown all season?! (I'm pretty sure it hasn't shown up in any of season 2! Can anyone confirm?) I reckon the cave set was struck between seasons, possibly in place of an studio 'jungle' set, or (much more likely) the hatch. TV shows only have a specific amount of studio space per show, and if more standing (permanent) sets are needed, they have to replace something already in existence. I know the producers had issues with the cave set for its audio issues with the waterfall's noise levels. I reckon we're not likely to see it again.

Sayid - nice to have him have something to do again, though it was probably a good idea not to feature him for the duration of the 'grieving' process. Having him now return to the group and get more involved suggests he has been mourning during the time we haven't seen him.

The radio - I'm glad Rosseau's transmission was picked up again. I was afraid it was forgotten when Boone didn't pick it up in the plane and there was no mention of Bernard and Co having heard it either. I'd still like to see the source of this transmission at some point. As for the Short Wave reception, Sayid was pretty much dismissing that as any kind of useful method of sending a message, and there I was thinking 'But don't RTE use Short Wave to send the All-Ireland final and other programmes *AROUND THE WORLD*?' (http://www.rte.ie/about/pressreleases/22122003.html). So I don't know why he was dismissing it. Even if he reckoned it wasn't good enough to pick up a message on, what about using Rosseau's transmitter hooked up to it to send OUT a message. Seemed odd that he dismissed it so much. Nice to hear the radio broadcast. Were there two languages there? French (other than Rosseaus), maybe as well as English? Or maybe it was just static. Hurley's 'time' comment was weird. I'd like to see if the castways now hear current news stories on that radio, or if there's any indication of what is going on in the real world.

* Kate's mother: Interesting, but served no purpose other than to tell us he was in Kate's town. He certainly didn't rip her mother off. She was too poor. Was it just another coincidence? Incidentally, when I spotted 'Beth Broderick' on the guest credits, I knew she was going to show up, so the 'surprise' was somewhat lessened. A lot of shows tend to hold over that credit until the end and add in a 'Guest Appearance by...' on the end if they're keen to keep the secret. In the end, it didn't matter a whole lot in this case.

Viking wrote:

We see Locke in the hatch "alphabetising" the books, the title of the one in his hands is "An Occurrence at Owl Creek Bridge"

The plot of this is wildly similar to that of 'The Third Policeman' by Flann O'Brien. This was on Desmond's bed in 2x03, and the concept of atoning for 'bad deeds' crops up heavily there too. I'm also reminded of 'Turn of the Screw' (behind which the Dharma orientation film was located), which dealt with 'ghosts' from the past as well. All very similar themed, that bunch.

* And lastly, the Charlie involvement was the one part of the episode I was mad with myself for not spotting... for one simple reason. There was no other explanation for it being in the 'Previously on Lost...' recap! It didn't tie in with the Others, it wasn't needed to explain why Sawyer had that conversation with Charlie at the start and until the end he'd barely turned up. For that reason alone, if I'd cast my mind back during watching it, I'd have known they were reminding us for a reason. (They do this a lot, so much so I can't believe I missed the clue!)

Overall, better than 2x11 and 2x12 by a long mile, yet it's still seeping out island info. But on the plus side, this was a flashback actually worth the price of admission.

Splendid

basquille wrote:

Likewise here... knew the dark hood was Charlies alright but kept wondering why he would have just left it at the scene of the crime.

I thought the same, then about then minutes later, there he was with his hood in tact, so i dismissed it as a coincidence. Then was shocked wehn he met sawyer.

silvergal

8

quick question

Why sun?

doh.ie

7

silvergal wrote:

quick question

Why sun?

Probably because she was predictable. She tended to the garden daily and would usually be alone, away from the more populated part of the beach. She was also likely not to put up much of a fight when Charlie attacked her.

monkeyfudge

6

silvergal wrote:

quick question

Why sun?

She was about the easiest target. There aren't many on the island that little Charlie could drag off.

jor el

7

doh.ie wrote:

surely THAT would be the perfect way to explain why he'd do something so awful to Sun. He just wasn't set up to us as a violent guy, so for him to do that to Sun without any reason other than revenge and a wish to show up Locke just doesn't add up.

I don't think charlie actually did anything to Sun. When she woke up she said that there was a bg over her head and she was being draged away. Then she kicked and fought and ran away, then fell. I reckon she got away, or was let away, from Charlie. But with a bag on her head she fell or hit a tree and knocked herself out. Charlie just meant to scare her, not hurt her.

I don't think the bag was the same hood that Charlie wears, that seems to be a hoodie he has on. Plus, he was wearing it again at the end. If he'd used that to drag off Sun then I doubt he'd have gone up to Jack and asked for it back.

monkeyfudge wrote:

There aren't many on the island that little Charlie could drag off.

Yes, and still she managed to get away from him

doh.ie

7

jor el wrote:

I don't think charlie actually did anything to Sun. When she woke up she said that there was a bg over her head and she was being draged away. Then she kicked and fought and ran away, then fell. I reckon she got away, or was let away, from Charlie. But with a bag on her head she fell or hit a tree and knocked herself out. Charlie just meant to scare her, not hurt her.

True, that would explain the bump. It might be better that a line of dialogue from Charlie to the effect of, "No one can ever find out. I only meant to scare her - how was I to know she'd bloody end up banging her head of a tree while trying to get away?" would have told us that, despite his desire for revenge, he wasn't the violent thug the ep half-presented him as.

balkieb2002

6

jor el wrote:

Well Eko did find film hidden in a bible in their "Hatch" area. Maybe Locke is going through all the books in the hope of finding a secret hiding place for some valuable new information?

Yeah that actually makes quite of a bit of sense if you've seen the preview of the next episode

jor el wrote:

I don't think charlie actually did anything to Sun. When she woke up she said that there was a bg over her head and she was being draged away. Then she kicked and fought and ran away, then fell. I reckon she got away, or was let away, from Charlie. But with a bag on her head she fell or hit a tree and knocked herself out. Charlie just meant to scare her, not hurt her.

And yeah i think i remeber she said something to that effect that she ran away but fell and hurt herself, when she explaining to jack what happend when she first came round

monomaniac

8

doh.ie wrote:

* And lastly, the Charlie involvement was the one part of the episode I was mad with myself for not spotting... for one simple reason. There was no other explanation for it being in the 'Previously on Lost...' recap!

I've actually started to fast forward through these for fear they'll spoil some of the surprises. Guarantee next week's "Previously..." segment will be full of scenes

with Danielle

.

Anyone any idea what some of the korean dialogue was? Is there a website you can look this up?

The literary references are all really interesting - looking forward to the Bad Twin book getting released.

SandyVN

I really really enjoyed that episode. Its about time it got interesting again. Its a 9 for me. Wher can you find previews of next week??

Anima

8

Could you refrain from mentioning info on next weeks episode PLEASE.

Sauron

8

9/10 for me.. one of the better episodes of the season I thought.

Didn't expect charlie to be involved..

Most Good points have been listed I spose...Really enjoyed it

looking forward to next week.

madrab

8

yeah i agree with this, can any talk of the preview of the next episode be kept to the proper thread

(yes i know its in spoilers but still io dont like being tempted)

lostexpectation

7

who is cassidy in rl and what have we seen her in before?

ah its kim dickens the hoare Joannie Stubbs from Deadwood, she looks better as a blond, I still hope that show is coming back...

did sawyer do the broken case bit in his first flashback?
If he _such_ a bad person why does he keep having there major crisis when doing all his cons?

what possible reason could sawyer have for getting in the passenger seat unless for our tv/dramatic effect

I thought for a moment that the others would steal the guns once they were out of the saferoom? I don't know how they can be secure anywhere else?

How is sawyer safe if he's isolated? no-one is safe on that island on their own...? Surely he knows that?

I still think the timing in the episodes is confusing, I liked what AL said about there lostaways not being scared enough, you'd think they would be a bit more proactive but considering only days have passed...