Do you carry or pull?

swingking

I think it is safe to say that most people on this golf thread are under 30. My question is whether people carry or pull, and if they pull why?

I can't understand why young people would pull their bag; Unless due to a medical condition, I see them as being lazy

Does any1 else back my argument up?

J.R.HARTLEY

yeah it's lots of things though, i pull my bag, but i used to carry and hopefully one day i will carry again but thats cause i like it, i feel a stand bag has a certain accesibility factor over trolleys, but you also have lads who are after being in work the night before like guards or shift workers or they may be going in later and want to reserve energy, generally on the course if you're paying attention to what other people are doing your game can suffer, so i wouldn't worry about it. but think about it this way, why does a pro let the caddy carry the bag. so he can save all his energy, won't hurt himself putting the bag on his back or shoulder etc. then think of us, and how much help we need compared to pros in our game, every little extra helps, so why not save the energy and avoid the potential problems

Rikand

Carry.

Actually find i am less tired after a round of carrying my bag than i am when i pull

RuggieBear

J.R.HARTLEY wrote:

yeah it's lots of things though, i pull my bag, but i used to carry and hopefully one day i will carry again but thats cause i like it, i feel a stand bag has a certain accesibility factor over trolleys, but you also have lads who are after being in work the night before like guards or shift workers or they may be going in later and want to reserve energy, generally on the course if you're paying attention to what other people are doing your game can suffer, so i wouldn't worry about it. but think about it this way, why does a pro let the caddy carry the bag. so he can save all his energy, won't hurt himself putting the bag on his back or shoulder etc. then think of us, and how much help we need compared to pros in our game, every little extra helps, so why not save the energy and avoid the potential problems

i do both depending on my mood. i see no problem with either.

As for the pro's not carrying their bags....can you imagine how long they'd take if they had to, and if they had to work out their own yardage....5-6hrs a round i'd reckon.

Tbh, i'd practically let them use buggies if it meant they'd speed up

TheDoc

WEll here is my little input into the situation and you may think " this guy reads may too much into things"

During the summer, the ground is usually hard and its hot out. Sun pounding down. Pulling a trolley is very much an easier option then lugging around a bag.

Come winter, the ground gets wet, soggy, and trolleys become nearly a burden, so you carry a bag and brisk through the wadding water.

It also very much depends on the course.

My course, Hollywoodlakes for instance, is a very hilly course, where pulling a trolley, you would die a painful death during winter anyways, summer youd just be knackered, it makes more sense to carry.

Whereas somewhere like Donabate or Balcarrick,St Annes, its a very flat course, so pulling your trolley is easy, there are no huge hills to climb up on.

I personally carry my bag the whole time, and like it much better. I even pimped it out with badges and wristbands etc etc and am pretty proud of it =D

J.R.HARTLEY

[DM]-TheDOC- wrote:

I personally carry my bag the whole time, and like it much better. I even pimped it out with badges and wristbands etc etc and am pretty proud of it =D

and for these two lines alone the rest of your, very valid post, will probably be ignored

but seriously i like your thinking on the issue, good points

milltown

Pull.

I have a two year old son who gives me little choice when or if to carry him. I get enough muscle tweaks and strains hauling him in and out of his cot/car seat/high chair that I feel no shame in choosing to pull my trolley around a golf course.

Having said that, I do wonder about the number of young guys with electric trolleys these days.

Trampas

I carry my bag as i prefer it than pulling the bag around.

Cut corners than taken the long way to get around.

Bring you back up on the tee box.

They say if you pull you bag around that you should pull it with the same hand all the time as the muscle in that arm can effect your golf

1) Gets tired easier thus the other arm is doing most of the work and you are hitting the ball more with 1 arm or the other

2) It can have the opp effect.

The only thing i hate with carrying my bag is them rainy days is it going to rain or not.

I make my decision at the start to put the rain bottoms on or leave them in the car.

rick_fantastic

i vary from carrying my bag to whipping out the aul dears electric trolley to pulling it. depends on how energetic im feeling and whether or not ive hsd a hard week in college and work

more so the deciding factor is whether ive been on the beer on a friday night or not.

css

I push my bag.. inherited a 3 wheeler jobbie, when i bought the dad an electric...

DIEGO WORST

I'm over 30, so I pull a trolley. I reckon my bag would be too heavy to carry, prob full of stuff I'll never use, but never got around to clearing out.

Somebody offered to sell me an electric trolley t'other day - I was seriously insulted. I give myself another 20 years b4 I need one of those things.

To me, pulling a trolley requires little effort, maybe it's becoz the courses I play are all relatively flat, so I really don't see the advantage to going electric. But if I was to start carrying I think I would suffer strain in my shoulders and back.

frink

Definitely carry. i find pulling tires me more. I play links alot so its a lot easier to carry a bag in the rough.
and you can walk across greens and tee boxes to and half the time its not even on your back

Dman_15

frink wrote:

I play links alot so its a lot easier to carry a bag in the rough.

Amen, not that i ever go in the rough

stringy

I'm fit in my mid 20s and pull my bag. My home course is flat. My bag is big so I can store more stuff, jumpers, rain gear, drinks, food etc.

My own personal thoughts are young golfers think it's uncool to pull a bag. I used to carry in my teens, then realised, a trolley with a bigger bag would be far easier.

Obviously both have their benefits and downfalls, mobility, where the strain is afterwards, I dont personal choice at the end of the day

X-Calibre

I think pulling the bag definately saves energy. I always pull if its a big competition, or most competitions now that I think of it. I play on a very flat course(Woodbrook) so it is easier to pull. It might be a different story if I were from Delgany or something:p If I'm going out for 12 holes I wouldnt bother getting the trolley out. But yeah, trolley ftw!

slumped

Get an electric trolley and do neither!

jampotjim

I carry but think I am going to get a Powakaddy next year as they really do make it a casuak walk which has to be good for the game

stockdam

I carry. I have pulled a trolley but found that walking at an angle wasn't good for my back.

I prefer walking beside a buggy though with the bag in the buggy.

Par72

I'm 32 and use a Powakaddy. I used to carry my bag, then I had a pull trolley, I find now that I have a little bit more energy towards the end of the round than I did when I was carrying or pulling the bag.

mbren

I always carry because I do less walking as you can carry the bag across greens, bunkers etc as opposed to around them.

I hate when I see lads in their early 20's using electric trollies as well...now that is lazy!!

slingerz

I carry my bag. just find it way easier than pulling a trolley around with me

Myksyk

Have to laugh at this thread. Who gives a toss what you do with your bag? I'm surprised someone hasn't said that they carry their bag AND have spoilers on it!

The pros have someone else carry it ... are they lazy? How you get your clubs from one shot to the next is staggeringly irrelevant. By the way, I use a buggy with on-board electric trolley and soft red chushion for bum. I have two hawaiian women who carry my club to me and take it from me after my exertion on a shot.

callaway92

Electric Cart ftw

arg

Mainly pull a trolly. Carry pencil bag when practicing on my own (normally leave a few clubs behind) - love the freedom it gives to skip around the course.

Frisbee

I carry my bag. Its what all the cool kids are doing..

Woodgate

Neither.

Have an electric trolly that does the work for me. I have it a few years now and find it great, I feel more relaxed when taking my shots as I'm not tired or uncomfortable from carrying a bag or pulling a trolley. I have bd knee aswell so when i hve carried in the past, I do feel it later on.

ziggy

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Myksyk

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Exactly right. You want as much concentration and energy at the end of the round as at the beginning. If you're worried about whether others will know you're super fit, then wear your Finisher t-shirt from the Dublin Marathon.

Sionnachster

Pro told me that it's not a great idea to pull a trolley and ranks on the bottom of the list of carrrying, pulling and electric. Not at all good for your game apparently.....

I pull a trolley though but in a very cool way....

Paulusmaximus

I have a powerkaddy and in my late 20's. The game is hard enough without having to worry about carrying a bag or pulling a bag and the effects on your arms and shoulders both have. The main reason i'm on a golf course is to play golf and to have the best score possible. Getting fit is only secondary so having the powerkaddy i think makes a big difference. You look at all the major amateur championships and 90% of those players have electric trolleys so if they are doing it its obviously the right thing to do

Mister Sifter

Never mind age, how about ability. It's laughable the number of beginners and hackers with an electric trolley. Some people really need to get their priorities right!

kingshankly

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Never mind age, how about ability. It's laughable the number of beginners and hackers with an electric trolley. Some people really need to get their priorities right!

Why is it laughable just because you are a beginner or a hacker doesn't mean your not entitled to an electric trolley everyones individual needs are different if it makes your game more enjoyable then fair play to them I am neither a beginner nor a hacker and I mostly carry my bag ( so I am not biassed)

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Mister Sifter

As i say, priorities. If your zig-zagging your way up the fairway i'd say the money you splashed out on an electric trolley would have been better spent on lessons.

Guys playing the game 2 minutes and the first thing they buy is a powakaddy. Just doesn't make sense to me.

copacetic

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I'm presuming Graeme is wondering why they don't invest in lessons and practise time rather than expensive trolleys when starting out.

ziggy

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NuFlyer

I push a 3-wheeler. Very handy and little effort, but a few times a year I will carry the clubs, depending on the course. Playing hilly courses is way better if you carry your clubs.

GreeBo

Firstly I would have to ask why on earth it matters. Let your score do the impressing, not the fact that you carry a pencil bag and wear shorts in winter.

Im 30 and always carried my bag until 2 months ago. Then I was playing Pierce Purcell and borrowed my mother golfglider in case we had to play 3 rounds in a weekend in Glen of The (ups and) Downs.

I noticed how much more refreshed I was and it was great to have jumpers and drinks, food umbrella, windcheater etc all in the bag and not to leave half of it in the boot of the car.

I tried using a pull caddycar and found it was worse than carrying, Id end up with one tired arm/shoulder.

I had a bunch of credit in the pro shop and so bought a golfglider of my own.
I think its the best investment Ive made since I bought a big headed driver.

I dont have to worry about being tired or getting wet or any of that crap anymore during a competition. When practicing or playing casual golf I stick every 2nd club and all my wedges into the pencil bag and carry.
For all my serious golf I bring my electric friend.

Id say it saves a minimum of 1 shot a round.

Older beginners are well entitled to buy one of these, would you have the same problem with them buying a new driver? Beginners are enthuiastic and all over the place and usually play lots of golf, why the hell shouldnt they use an electric caddy car?

Dublin Spur

I can't understand folkes who don't carry their clubs.
Unless they are suffering from some sort of medical condition.
They're not that heavy in fairness.
Have always carried, will always carry.
It's the way the game is supposed to be played.
Strolling around a course with your golf-bag following you or running off ahead of you is not golf in my book.
Sad to see young people not getting more physical excercise out of the game.

Myksyk

Dublin Spur wrote: »

I can't understand folkes who don't carry their clubs.
Unless they are suffering from some sort of medical condition.
They're not that heavy in fairness.

If you carried mine you'd soon have a medical condition.

It's the way the game is supposed to be played.

Strolling around a course with your golf-bag following you or running off ahead of you is not golf in my book.

Erm, what game would it be then? What game are the pros and elite amateurs playing?

Sionnachster

I pull a trolley because I fill my bag up with gear and it's heavy. Simple as that. There are plenty of times when I know the weather is nice that I switch to a carry stand bag but this summer it's been impossible.

Electric carts were originally targeted at the more 'mature gentleman' which is where I think the analogy has come from regarding young folk using them. I don't care either way but can't see myself spending that much on a cart when there are copious amounts of new clubs out there I don't need but chose to spend that money on....

I have to refer to it again though, pulling a trolley is what all the cool folk do, it's science fact lads.... :cool:

GreeBo

Dublin Spur wrote: »

I can't understand folkes who don't carry their clubs.
Unless they are suffering from some sort of medical condition.
They're not that heavy in fairness.
Have always carried, will always carry.
It's the way the game is supposed to be played.
Strolling around a course with your golf-bag following you or running off ahead of you is not golf in my book.
Sad to see young people not getting more physical excercise out of the game.

What a load of arse in fairness.
I cant understand people who carry theirs when there is no need.

Seriously, how many young people do you know who use golf as their means of physical exercise?

arg

Some bags are designed to hold a lot of gear and, therefore, sit in a trolly. Had the misfortune of forgetting my trolly one day and my shoulder was raw afterwards - to add to the difficulty my Da's (75 yrs old - he's excused) electric trolly gave up on him on the 14th so I had to push his the rest of the way to avoid a heart attack! I was seriously knackered after that.

Dublin Spur

GreeBo wrote: »

What a load of arse in fairness.
I cant understand people who carry theirs when there is no need.

Seriously, how many young people do you know who use golf as their means of physical exercise?

Each to their own. If you are a reasonably fit and health male you should be able to carry your clubs on your back. That's all.

Sandwich

Dublin Spur wrote: »

Each to their own. If you are a reasonably fit and health male you should be able to carry your clubs on your back. That's all.

You should indeed be able to. But why you would choose to do so still beats me. Have a pull cart and an electric (inherited) and normally choose to pull, finding it handier than controlling the powered one.

Correct me if I'm wrong but 15 years or so ago, more or less everyone pulled a cart (except elderly gents with a pencil bag and about 6 clubs in it playing 9 late in the evening...).
Then it became the thing for young tigers (small Tee) to carry their bag. Generally good/keen/16-25 years olds. And special 'carry bags' were seen. Before that there was no such thing as a carrybag, just a 'bag' that had a single shoulder strap.

Looked like a fashion/follow-the-in-crowd thing of youth, and a mark of distinction from the rest of the 'stuffy' older golfing population.

Which came first : the carrybag or the bagcarriers ?

Are the carry supporters those who are now 25-35 and took up the game 5 to 15 years ago?

Dublin Spur

Sandwich wrote: »

You should indeed be able to. But why you would choose to do so still beats me.

I suppose I always have (been playing for about 20 years).
I enjoy carrying them.
You don't have to stick to tracks and paths.
You can go where ever you like.

It's a personal thing in the end. But I have always had a bit of a bee in my bonnet with "men" that need assistance with their equipment. Just a silly little gripe I have, I think it's a bit lazy not to carry you're clubs if your fit and healthy.

I'll never have a trolly on general principle.

ziggy

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Myksyk

Dublin Spur wrote: »

But I have always had a bit of a bee in my bonnet with "men" that need assistance with their equipment.

'Men' like Harrington, Mikelson, Garcia, Karlsson, Stenson, Weekley, Holmes, Woods, Westwood, .............................???????

Paulusmaximus

Dublin Spur, did you post recently to say that you had a bad couple of final holes that kind of ruined a good score?

Maybe it was tiredness from carrying your bag that made you lose concentration in the final couple of holes!!!!;)

copacetic

Dublin Spur wrote: »

I suppose I always have (been playing for about 20 years).
I enjoy carrying them.
You don't have to stick to tracks and paths.
You can go where ever you like.

It's a personal thing in the end. But I have always had a bit of a bee in my bonnet with "men" that need assistance with their equipment. Just a silly little gripe I have, I think it's a bit lazy not to carry you're clubs if your fit and healthy.

I'll never have a trolly on general principle.

I agree with most of this, a lot of the reasons given for not carrying are the same ones you see given for driving a cart rather than walking. You are halfway there if not carrying your clubs imo.

Not that worked up about it though.

Mister Sifter

From reading some of the posts you'd think carrying the bag somehow made you a better person. Hmm... maybe if the bags in question weren't flimsy little lightweight things i'd be more incline to agree. There seems to be a contradiction in the argument from some that carrying is a healthier option. At the same time you say it's better because you don't have to walk as far.