Eircom Key

blahblah06

Hi lads. moved into a new estate and my wireless card picked up 3 signals from eircom but they are passworded. is there some sort of standard password?

Ag marbh

blahblah06 wrote:

Hi lads. moved into a new estate and my wireless card picked up 3 signals from eircom but they are passworded. is there some sort of standard password?

The encryption key is generated by the router or manually set by the user so it's not possible for you to connect.

blahblah06

damnit. do you know if i can track down the user so that i could ask could i share his access and go half on the bill ?

Ag marbh

blahblah06 wrote:

damnit. do you know if i can track down the user so that i could ask could i share his access and go half on the bill ?

Not really unless the router is named after him and then you happen to find out who he is. Other than that you'll have to knock around to houses guessing

blahblah06

damn it. looks like ill have to wait another while until our estate gets proper access

Gurgle

blahblah06 wrote:

damnit. do you know if i can track down the user so that i could ask could i share his access and go half on the bill ?

Measure the signal strength at various locations around the area and triangulate to find the centre.

The Muppet

blahblah06 wrote:

damnit. do you know if i can track down the user so that i could ask could i share his access and go half on the bill ?

By default the key is generated using the serial number of the eircom box. It would have to be someone pretty close to you so just asking the neighbours is your best bet of identifying the source of the signals.

I would be surprised if anyone would agree to share a connection with someone they don't know really well, they could be leaving themselves open to some serious trouble by donig so.

blahblah06

well all i would be looking for is to use it for online games. i dont know much about comps so dont think id be breaking into anything. lol

MiCr0

you could hand-out leaflets and put your email address on them ;-)

Dcully

On this topic.
How can i ensure nobody is leeching from my connection?
I have 3mb eircom line with their wireless router thingy.
What do i need to change as i have heard many cases of guys leeching from neighbours etc.
There are a host of options in the wireless section of my router browser page but im unsure what does what.
At the moment im not using the wireless option but will be soon when i get a laptop.

dub45

blahblah06 wrote:

damn it. looks like ill have to wait another while until our estate gets proper access

What can be the problem with 'proper access' if you are picking up three wireless signals and particularly as they are all Eircom ones which means dsl is enabled?

blahblah06

dub45 wrote:

What can be the problem with 'proper access' if you are picking up three wireless signals and particularly as they are all Eircom ones which means dsl is enabled?

theres no phone line set up on my street

jor el

Dcully wrote:

What do i need to change as i have heard many cases of guys leeching from neighbours etc.
There are a host of options in the wireless section of my router browser page but im unsure what does what.

Use WEP or WPA encryption of the signal, I can't remember which one I use, think it's WPA. With 128-bit encryption you'll get a password that is made of 13 hex pairs (26 characters in total). Set this up now over the wired link before you start using the wireless function. Wireless is probably enabled already so you should do this straight away to make sure nobody is leaching from you.

If you want to be really secure you can restrict connections to certain MAC addresses only, then list your Laptop, PC, etc as allowed.

blahblah06

so theres no way around my problem then ?

jor el

Which problem? That there's no phone line (call Eircom and ask for a line to be installed, problem solved), that you can't find the person with the wireless router (knock on some doors till you find them, but you could expect a frosty reception if a complete stranger came to my door looking to use my broadband), or you can't get their password?

blahblah06

jor el wrote:

Which problem? That there's no phone line (call Eircom and ask for a line to be installed, problem solved), that you can't find the person with the wireless router (knock on some doors till you find them, but you could expect a frosty reception if a complete stranger came to my door looking to use my broadband), or you can't get their password?

well i did ring eircom before i got into the house and the eastae isnt wired yet so it would be hard to get a phone line in. ther emust be a way around this guys router

paulm17781

blahblah06 wrote:

well i did ring eircom before i got into the house and the eastae isnt wired yet so it would be hard to get a phone line in. ther emust be a way around this guys router

So you are asking us to help you break the law.....

Your options are:

1) Ask around and see if he will let you share.
2) Get your own connection

The fact that he has a password means he does not want people leeching. Surely that is enough to deter you.

jonski

blahblah06 wrote:

well i did ring eircom before i got into the house and the eastae isnt wired yet so it would be hard to get a phone line in. ther emust be a way around this guys router

If you can pick up the signal it must be pretty close , so how can the estate not be enabled ? , unless it is right next to an estate that is .

Plus wireless gaming isn't great and trying to do it through someone else's router , god knows how far away , would be worse .

Having said all that , you seem to be suggesting or asking for a way around this guys password ,if thats the case then thats just not right , and asking here is even worse .

blahblah06

there is 3 different signals. i would get my own connection if i coudl and i would ask them if i knew were they were

jor el

blahblah06 wrote:

well i did ring eircom before i got into the house and the eastae isnt wired yet so it would be hard to get a phone line in. ther emust be a way around this guys router

There are methods to crack the encryption on a Wireless router, but it's not easy, and I'm not going to tell you how. I tried on my own once to see how secure it was and couldn't get in.

Someone near by has an eircom router, you mentioned three of them in your first post, so obviously there are phone lines in the area. Could be the estate next door if it's very close, but wireless routers may have a range of only 100m or so, less through the concrete walls of two houses. They've got to be within a couple of houses of you.

Leaching off someone's broadband without their permission isn't right, it's also likely to be illegal (civil matter), and if I were the guy and I found out I'd do my best to upload the most malicious virus I could find onto your PC. Since you'd be connected to his LAN, it'd be a lot easier for him to get around Windows' miserable security features and do damage to your PC than it would be for you to crack the wireless encryption protocol in the first place. Just something to note should you ever consider doing this.

i would ask them if i knew were they were

But because you don't know where they are, you think it's OK to illegally leach off their (over-priced) paid for service?

Ah-well...

This is pretty stright forward. Just pay for you own BB like everyone else and if you can't get it, wait until you can? You've a very unusual reasoning for stealing this persons signal...

blahblah06

As i said i have no problem paying for this broadband with who ever these guys are but dont know who they are. i wont be able to get broadband for a few months. I dont see why all of you are coming up high and mighty. i am sure you would be thinking the same thing if you were in my boat

paulm17781

blahblah06 wrote:

As i said i have no problem paying for this broadband with who ever these guys are but dont know who they are. i wont be able to get broadband for a few months. I dont see why all of you are coming up high and mighty. i am sure you would be thinking the same thing if you were in my boat

Whoever owns this router has a password on it. That means they do not want people leeching. If it was unprotected then it would be their fault but you are talking about cracking and stealing.

MrPudding

Why don't you go for metro or clearwire or maybe even IBB (if they sort their sh1t out?)

Having a phone line is sooo last year.

Oh and by the way, only scumbags try to leech of a neighbours connection. The fact that you would a) pay him if you knew who it was or b) get you own if you could does not give you the right to leech.

MrP

blahblah06

ive tried all the wireless without the phone but no BODY is out my way. this is going around in circles.

paulm17781

blahblah06 wrote:

ive tried all the wireless without the phone but no BODY is out my way. this is going around in circles.

Looks like you can't get broadband so.

blahblah06

thats my whole point of this thread

paulm17781

blahblah06 wrote:

thats my whole point of this thread

No, you asked how to get it. You have now been told you can't until Ericon install it.

blahblah06

Paul your unreal do you really think i would say all this if i could get broadband. Oh and btw its Eircom and i never asked how do i get the broadband connected i was asking about a guys router. read the thread properly and you may understand.

blahblah06 wrote:

Hi lads. moved into a new estate and my wireless card picked up 3 signals from eircom but they are passworded. is there some sort of standard password?

blahblah06 wrote:

damn it. looks like ill have to wait another while until our estate gets proper access

blahblah06 wrote:

theres no phone line set up on my street

blahblah06 wrote:

well i did ring eircom before i got into the house and the eastae isnt wired yet so it would be hard to get a phone line in.

blahblah06 wrote:

there is 3 different signals. i would get my own connection if i could.

blahblah06 wrote:

As i said i have no problem paying for this broadband with who ever these guys are but dont know who they are. i wont be able to get broadband for a few months. I dont see why all of you are coming up high and mighty. i am sure you would be thinking the same thing if you were in my boat.

paulm17781

blahblah06 wrote:

Paul your unreal do you really think i would say all this if i could get broadband. Oh and btw its Eircom and i never asked how do i get the broadband connected i was asking about a guys router. read the thread properly and you may understand.

And we have told you that you can't. Perhaps you should read the replies and see that people are not going to tell you how to illegally crack a router. There is no debate here. You (like many in Ireland) can not get broadband. Just because a neighbour has it, it does not give you any 'right' to his broadband. People have said try to find him, one person even recommended walking around with a laptop to try and trace the signal. What more do you want to know? As was said on the first few replies, unless you can find him (I reiterate, you were given tips on this) and he agrees to let you use his connection, you can't get broadband. END OF STORY.

I have grown tired of this. Unless you specifically refer to me I am not going to reply any more.

blahblah06

LOL your still unreal. i said in previos posts i will gladly pay half the bill but my main question was about getting the password. i appreciate other ppls replies for helping me out but when someone like you who is a moaney git decides to make sarcastic comments just ruins the idea of this board. grow up and get lost stop stating the obvious comments, i know i cant get broadband myself so why keep mentioning it. as i said i would have mentioned anything about getting access to a router if i could have my own broadband and thats the end of the story. lets see if you can drop it. more then likely not cause ur prob looking for an arguement

paulm17781

Right, you have referred to me so I will reply.

The only way to get this password is to ask the person who owns the router and connection. THERE IS NO OTHER LEGAL WAY.

You were given tips on how you may be able to find this person.

Other than this you have no choice.

I am not sure what you are trying to achieve by posting here but people are not going to tell you how to get the password illegally.Try to find the guy or stop going on about it, it is fact, these are your only options until you can get your own account. I am not moaning or being sarcastic, I have even said I will stop replying unless a post is directed at me, that's hardly looking for an argument.

To summarise once again:

Try to find the guy measuring the signal strength is the only LEGAL option you have other than call around to houses near yours and ask people. No matter how many times you post here, this will not change.

This gives you the following choices: Try to find whoever owns the connection (as stated many times), wait for broadband, have no broadband.

to quote myself again

paulm17781 wrote:

I have grown tired of this. Unless you specifically refer to me I am not going to reply any more.

blahblah06

paulm17781 wrote:

Right, you have referred to me so I will reply.

The only way to get this password is to ask the person who owns the router and connection. THERE IS NO OTHER LEGAL WAY. (thats were your wrong)

You were given tips on how you may be able to find this person.

Other than this you have no choice.

I am not sure what you are trying to achieve by posting here but people are not going to tell you how to get the password illegally.Try to find the guy or stop going on about it, it is fact, these are your only options until you can get your own account. I am not moaning or being sarcastic, I have even said I will stop replying unless a post is directed at me, that's hardly looking for an argument.

To summarise once again:

Try to find the guy measuring the signal strength is the only LEGAL option you have other than call around to houses near yours and ask people. No matter how many times you post here, this will not change.

This gives you the following choices: Try to find whoever owns the connection (as stated many times), wait for broadband, have no broadband.

to quote myself again

There is a way to get the codes a simple google search got me them. cheers guys btw

i knew ya would reply lol enough said.

paulm17781

blahblah06 wrote:

i knew ya wouldnt reply lol enough said

Now, that was clearly posted to incite me. As I have said twice, I am only replying if my posts are referred to. You seem to have the same issue grasping this as you have with your broadband situation. Believe it or not I have better things to do than post the same thing over and over on this board. If you do not want me to reply, do not incite me to do so. It's really very simple.

blahblah06

fair enough. lol

dar83

Christ, someones not the sharpest knife in the drawer....

blahblah06

could be a butter knife?

CyberGhost

Oh... I feel Boards sharks are sharpening their teeth and are preparing to rip the pray apart any second.

1. Get your own broadband(wireless) if you can.

2. Find the guy who has that broadband and make them an offer........ and if they refuse, call Luca Brazi.

MrPudding

CyberGhost wrote:

Oh... I feel Boards sharks are sharpening their teeth and are preparing to rip the pray apart any second.

1. Get your own broadband(wireless) if you can.

If you can not, then get yourself an Orinoco or Senao card, install airsnort and get on to decrypting, but it'll take a LONG time.

He says he already has the key, he found them on google. Aside from that you really should not be advising people on what they need to break WEP. The chances are those routers belong to someone on a capped product, if asswipe here sharts downloading the new series of lost and all the Paris Hilton videos he could land some other guy with a bill.

He has said that he would be will to pay half but only seems interested in getting the key. If he was interested in going abouy it the correct way he would make an effort to find one of the owners.

MrP

event

blahblah06 wrote:

There is a way to get the codes a simple google search got me them. cheers guys btw

i knew ya would reply lol enough said.

so why didnt you just google in the first place?

blahblah06

CyberGhost wrote:

Oh... I feel Boards sharks are sharpening their teeth and are preparing to rip the pray apart any second.

1. Get your own broadband(wireless) if you can.

If you can not, then get yourself an Orinoco or Senao card, install airsnort and get on to decrypting, but it'll take a LONG time.

nice one cyber. i got a thing called aircrack of google seems to be the same thing. at least someone has pointed me in the right direction. nice one bud

blahblah06

event wrote:

so why didnt you just google in the first place?

eh because i didnt know what the passwor dwas called ie i now know its an encryption key. jesus man read the thread before u post

blahblah06

MrPudding wrote:

He says he already has the key, he found them on google. Aside from that you really should not be advising people on what they need to break WEP. The chances are those routers belong to someone on a capped product, if asswipe here sharts downloading the new series of lost and all the Paris Hilton videos he could land some other guy with a bill.

He has said that he would be will to pay half but only seems interested in getting the key. If he was interested in going abouy it the correct way he would make an effort to find one of the owners.

MrP

do you fancy knocking around over 500 houses? i think not. seriously you ppl have to start thinking of been i nmy boots. i said i will be playing games not bloody downloading pornos.

this thread is finished i got my info so stop bitching

Duiske

paulm17781 wrote:

Whoever owns this router has a password on it. That means they do not want people leeching. If it was unprotected then it would be their fault but you are talking about cracking and stealing.

Paulm, just a quick question. Do you know if it is illegal to leech BB from an unsecured wireless set-up ? Or is it only illegal if you use some sort of hacking/cracking to get past network security. Just curious about the legalities.
On blahblah's original question , I would suggest that if the network is password protected, leave it alone. Even if you could track down the owner of the connection, and were willing to pay half the cost, he would be crazy to allow someone share his BB because, as owner of the IP address, he would be liable for anything illegal you got up to on the net, porn, music uploading, etc. Not suggesting you would do this, but I'm sure you see my point.
Anyway, if your estate if not wired, then the signal must be coming from a fair distance away from you, so would be next to useless for online gaming.

paulm17781

Duiske_Lad wrote:

Paulm, just a quick question. Do you know if it is illegal to leech BB from an unsecured wireless set-up ?

TBH, I don't know. I would assume so. I was going by the logic that if they have no security it is their own fault. You could probably say you thought it was a free service like Eircon used to do.

If something has a password it is a clear indication it is not for public use.

jonski

Duiske_Lad wrote:

Paulm, just a quick question. Do you know if it is illegal to leech BB from an unsecured wireless set-up ? Or is it only illegal if you use some sort of hacking/cracking to get past network security. Just curious about the legalities.

Just on the theory of it , if someone left their car door unlocked would it be ok to jump in and take it for a spin into town to do your shopping . Just cause someone is stupid enough not to password protect it doesn't mean it's ok for someone else to take it .In this case leech is a nice word for steal .

parsi

paulm17781 wrote:

TBH, I don't know. I would assume so. I was going by the logic that if they have no security it is their own fault.

Where do you live ? I need some turf for my lawn and if yours isn't locked down I assume I can come and dig it up....if you have any planters out front I'll take them as well (if I've room).

MarkR

blahblah06 wrote:

Hi lads. moved into a new estate and my wireless card picked up 3 signals from eircom but they are passworded. is there some sort of standard password?

Sure. Username is "ima"
Password is "cheapleachingthief"

If it doesn't work the first time, try it left handed.

Duiske

parsi wrote:

Where do you live ? I need some turf for my lawn and if yours isn't locked down I assume I can come and dig it up....if you have any planters out front I'll take them as well (if I've room).

I think you mis-understood what paulm was getting at. Wireless BB is going to be leeched if someone makes it openly available. No, its not right, but there are people who will do it. To use your analogy, if you knew there was a sneaky little thief with a fetish for garden planters running around your area, then you would'nt leave your planters out without at least securing them in some way, would you ?

skye

Fair enough but that still doesn't make it right for them to steal them does it?? Majority of people here are pointing out that what yer man wants is not right to do and that they have the moral decency not to do it - certainly wouldn't want him for a neighbour....

Duiske

skye wrote:

Fair enough but that still doesn't make it right for them to steal them does it?? Majority of people here are pointing out that what yer man wants is not right to do and that they have the moral decency not to do it - certainly wouldn't want him for a neighbour....

No, does not give them the right to steal it. As you say yourself, the majority here believe its not right, but there are a lot of blahblah's out there, so why make it easy for them ? I would advise anyone using wireless to not only use wep, but to restrict access by mac address as well.