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How much do you pay for your keep ?

  • 03-02-2006 6:45pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 545 ✭✭✭MarinoMark


    My younger brother who still lives with the folks has a decent job 500pw, But only gives the mother 60 euro...This covers his food,laundry,phone etc! Tightarse ! How much do you pay ??


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43,045 ✭✭✭✭Nevyn


    why is this a personal issue for you ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,783 ✭✭✭Binomate


    Nothing. :v:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 545 ✭✭✭MarinoMark


    Thaedydal wrote:
    why is this a personal issue for you ?

    Sorry did i hit a raw nerve...?...Why is anything an issue for anyone ? Regards M


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,648 ✭✭✭smiles


    MarinoMark wrote:
    Sorry did i hit a raw nerve...?...Why is anything an issue for anyone ? Regards M

    I think you misunderstood Thaed.

    This forum is called "Personal Issues" ... not "Something I wanted to talk about" --> try afterhours or humanities and anywhere else.

    Unless you want advice on dealing with the fact you resent your brother.....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,258 ✭✭✭Ag marbh


    Thaedydal wrote:
    why is this a personal issue for you ?

    It's an issue because it's bothering him. How are the threads labled "how to be happy" personal issues but yet they get to stay?


    Anyway back on topic, I make the same amount and pay nothing but will be starting soon. Im just 20 and plan to move out in a few months so i'll be paying my own way for the rest of life most likely. I don't think you should really let it bother you at all and before calling your brother a tightarse have you asked your mother if she wanted/asked for more off him? He may have no problem paying more if asked but I don't know many people who offer to pay more than they have to regarding anything.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 910 ✭✭✭rick_fantastic


    im a full time student living at home and i pay 300€ a month to live there as a contribution.

    i think this is a fair amount to be paying, i work part time (20hrs) a week and do 40hours of college a week so im never there. its just somewhere to sleep and relax. if i was out living on my own it would cost me a lot more so im happy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91 ✭✭meow


    I hand over 40 Euro a week.

    On top of that I pay 10 Euro towards the Chorus bill per month, pay my phone and internet charges, buy my own food and pay all the vet bills and medication for the animals.

    I personally think thats enough for now, if I got a pay rise I could afford to give more but I have other expenses too (the upcoming renewal of my car insurance:eek:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,893 ✭✭✭Canis Lupus


    MarinoMark wrote:
    Sorry did i hit a raw nerve...?...Why is anything an issue for anyone ? Regards M

    You're asking a question about how much people pay their folks for rent. It's not a thread that is usually seen in PI. More suited for other places. What's it to you anyway what your brother pays in rent. If your mother wanted more don't you think she is old enough to ask?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,258 ✭✭✭Ag marbh


    im a full time student living at home and i pay 300€ a month to live there as a contribution.

    i think this is a fair amount to be paying, i work part time (20hrs) a week and do 40hours of college a week so im never there. its just somewhere to sleep and relax. if i was out living on my own it would cost me a lot more so im happy


    I won't take my situation for granted after hearing that!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 951 ✭✭✭Eminem


    Im still living at home im doin my leavin and if i handed over money it would be straight back in my hand my parents wouldnt take it off me


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,130 ✭✭✭Azureus


    Eminem wrote:
    Im still living at home im doin my leavin and if i handed over money it would be straight back in my hand my parents wouldnt take it off me


    same with me!
    but the deal is that when im working i hand over a third of whatever i earn, which is far enough!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,469 ✭✭✭Pythia


    I'm in college, but work 15 hours a week, make about €1000 a month but I just spend it all. :eek:
    Parents have never asked for any money.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 951 ✭✭✭Eminem


    Azureus wrote:
    same with me!
    but the deal is that when im working i hand over a third of whatever i earn, which is far enough!


    Even if i gave my ma money when i work she wouldnt take it from me i help around the house and that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,084 ✭✭✭✭Esel
    Not Your Ornery Onager


    MarinoMark wrote:
    Sorry did i hit a raw nerve...?...Why is anything an issue for anyone ? Regards M

    This is not a PI. Go trawl somewhere else please. Like AH.

    [edit] Aw cheese! Somemod moved this to AH without a trace.

    Anyway - however much you pay - it's not enough! [/edit]

    Not your ornery onager



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 545 ✭✭✭MarinoMark


    meow wrote:
    I hand over 40 Euro a week.

    On top of that I pay 10 Euro towards the Chorus bill per month, pay my phone and internet charges, buy my own food and pay all the vet bills and medication for the animals.

    I personally think thats enough for now, if I got a pay rise I could afford to give more but I have other expenses too (the upcoming renewal of my car insurance:eek:)

    You are a good honest son ! Well done.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 545 ✭✭✭MarinoMark


    esel wrote:
    This is not a PI. Go trawl somewhere else please. Like AH.
    Oh dear, Bitter little boy you..... You sound lonely..there is a life beyond your pc..try it..As fr jack would say..drink...girls....(they are the ones that wear skirts)...Explore..............


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 891 ✭✭✭Mmmm_Lemony


    I hand up 345 rent a month, all the phone bills, 1/3 the lecky, 1/3 the gas, all the internet bill, 1/3 the NTL and have to feed myself and cloth myself.

    I am living at home and hope to move out soon! I also have to buy flowers and lot's of chocolate that I never get to eat every time I funk up. I live with my girlfriend and a housemate!

    Get it cheap while you can. Unless your going to be on Big Brother, life is going to be tough. I'm always skint but she always has a new black top every week.


    Go figure.:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,386 ✭✭✭Attol


    I pay nothing at all. I have so much work to do with my A Levels and all. Anyone doing the LC has NO IDEA what real work is like, trust me. My teachers have taught me nothing which requires teaching myself everything I'll need to know and altogether over my 2 years I will have handed in 8 pieces of coursework, 3 of which are about 30-50 pages long and involve either performing a psychological experiment and making my own programs. Also I will have done about 40 exams in 4 sittings (Jan 2005, May/June 2005, Jan 2006, May/June/July 2006). And they're not less work than the Leaving Cert ones either.

    I wouldn't pay anything either as I was forced to move to England because I was 17 and they said as I wasn't legally an adult I had to move with them. I really resent them for that and have spent the past 2 years miserable so I wouldn't really feel right giving them anything.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 503 ✭✭✭OMcGovern


    I pay €1,200 a month to the EBS........ I win I think :)

    Now it's well past your bedtimes....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,231 ✭✭✭✭Sparky


    €400 to parents a month, €79.00 for sky, €50 for phone bill, €110 for Metro, €35 for mobile bill and €179 for car insurance and about €50-70 for food

    Grand total of €900 give or take a couple of quid

    Im glad ive way more coming in than going out


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 454 ✭✭toffeapple


    lets start a thread " how much do you spend on drugs" or petrol or what ever........fu#kin hell


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 108 ✭✭jimbono1


    i PAy $400 euro a month to the old folks , all bills included, we live in the city centre and my room has an en suite so i cant complain. I know a lot of people who dont pay nothing, pretty stingy if you ask me


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,611 ✭✭✭✭Sam Vimes


    if my parents asked me to pay towards the house i'd move out in a second. why pay 60 a week and have to live under their rules when you can pay 80 and be your own man. if it was a choice between putting up with the idiot that is my dad and 20-30 extra a week i know what i'd choose


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,522 ✭✭✭Dr. Loon


    if my parents asked me to pay towards the house i'd move out in a second. why pay 60 a week and have to live under their rules when you can pay 80 and be your own man. if it was a choice between putting up with the idiot that is my dad and 20-30 extra a week i know what i'd choose

    You're an idiot. End of story.

    a) You have no respoect for your parents.
    b) you're an idiot.

    I wish I was an angel so I could see all these people that sponge off their parents being introduced to the "real world". This thread irritates me. Fúcking fools.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,388 ✭✭✭Kernel


    OMcGovern wrote:
    I pay €1,200 a month to the EBS........ I win I think :)

    Now it's well past your bedtimes....

    That's my mortgage, then theres Gas, Electricity, NTL, car insurance... damn ,I wanna move back in with the folks! :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 503 ✭✭✭OMcGovern


    if my parents asked me to pay towards the house i'd move out in a second. why pay 60 a week and have to live under their rules when you can pay 80 and be your own man. if it was a choice between putting up with the idiot that is my dad and 20-30 extra a week i know what i'd choose

    Then answer us this question.......
    How long do you expect your parents to provide you with free food, electricity, heating, accomodation etc ?

    If you're over 18, have a job and don't contribute to the house, then you're sponging off your parents. It's the financial equivalent of breastfeeding.

    About 3 years ago I was paying €120 a week for a bedsit in Rathmines, not including heating, electricity, and obviously the food/groceries.

    Whatever "rules" your parents impose on you, are likely to be about noise, hygiene, consideration for others.. You'll have those if you move into a shared house too....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,857 ✭✭✭✭Dave!


    In this house, you don't pay rent when you're in college or school, but once you start working full-time you do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,989 ✭✭✭✭Giblet


    MarinoMark wrote:
    Oh dear, Bitter little boy you..... You sound lonely..there is a life beyond your pc..try it..As fr jack would say..drink...girls....(they are the ones that wear skirts)...Explore..............

    Why don't you take your own advice and stop posting in this thread.

    Jesus, I can't believe the op is making crap of his own thread.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,644 ✭✭✭✭nesf


    Giblet wrote:
    Why don't you take your own advice and stop posting in this thread.

    Jesus, I can't believe the op is making crap of his own thread.

    Welcome to AH. :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,061 ✭✭✭✭Terry


    if my parents asked me to pay towards the house i'd move out in a second. why pay 60 a week and have to live under their rules when you can pay 80 and be your own man. if it was a choice between putting up with the idiot that is my dad and 20-30 extra a week i know what i'd choose
    if you think you can get by on €80 a week in the real world then you are in for something of a shock when you finally leave home.
    i own my house fully and still have bills of about €120 a week. add a mortgage or rent to that and you're looking at €200 at the very least. the apartments around here are €850 a month to rent. that's only one bedroom.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,485 ✭✭✭✭Ickle Magoo


    if my parents asked me to pay towards the house i'd move out in a second. why pay 60 a week and have to live under their rules when you can pay 80 and be your own man. if it was a choice between putting up with the idiot that is my dad and 20-30 extra a week i know what i'd choose

    That adds up to €320 a month as "your own man"......you really think that is how much it costs to pay for and run your own house?! Are you sure that wasn't a typo & you missed out a zero?! :p Rent/mortgage alone would be at least double that - never mind bills, food, etc! Wow! I'd give my eye teeth & put up with any amount of idiots for €80/wk to be my own woman, lol!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,644 ✭✭✭✭nesf


    if my parents asked me to pay towards the house i'd move out in a second. why pay 60 a week and have to live under their rules when you can pay 80 and be your own man. if it was a choice between putting up with the idiot that is my dad and 20-30 extra a week i know what i'd choose

    Tbh when I got my first fulltime job over a summer when I was 14 I was giving my parents one third of my paycheck each week and didn't begrudge them a penny of it. They fed me and payed my bills when I was in school, as far as I was concerned they were entitled to something back when I was earning money.

    And 80 a week is just rent these days tbh. You're talking closer to 200 a week to be "your own man" imho. You haven't given this a lot of thought have you? Bills + rent + food + a social life > 80 per week.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,989 ✭✭✭✭Giblet


    if my parents asked me to pay towards the house i'd move out in a second. why pay 60 a week and have to live under their rules when you can pay 80 and be your own man. if it was a choice between putting up with the idiot that is my dad and 20-30 extra a week i know what i'd choose


    If I was your Dad, I'd ask you to move out when you were 18, regardless of what money you have.:v:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,611 ✭✭✭✭Sam Vimes


    Dr. Loon wrote:
    You're an idiot. End of story.

    a) You have no respoect for your parents.
    b) you're an idiot.

    I wish I was an angel so I could see all these people that sponge off their parents being introduced to the "real world". This thread irritates me. Fúcking fools.


    post reported for personal abuse.


    i pay my own college fees and i think thats enough. i work about 20 hours a week and need all the money i have because i don't ask them for anything. all i cost them is dinner and the electricity it takes to have 4 people's laundry rather than 3. about 20-25 a week by my estimates. i can see why people would pay to their parents to live there but to me paying for your own place is paying for freedom rather than food.

    i'm just saying that if i had the choice of paying my parents while still having to live under their rules and paying more and having freedom i'd choose the latter.


    if you met my dad you'd understand. did you ever read the "letters to the editor" section of newspapers? that's him. the last time he had an opinion that was based on fact rather than his own prejudices was long before i was born. and he loves to force them down the throats of everyone around him in as condescending a way as possible. the last thing i'd do would be pay to listen to him.

    also its impossible to win an argument with him because for the other person to concede they have to first listen to what you're saying, rather than just wait for you to stop talking so they can say their part. if i paid rent it'd take me longer to save up the money i need to move out so ihe doesn't give me a heart attack before i hit 25

    a large factor in me not having moved out yet is that i don't want to leave my mother alone with him and my selfish bitch sister who follows in his footsteps. not only does she not pay rent, she borrows about 50 quid a week


    if i was working a full time job and living at home it'd be a different story. not paying then would be sponging. but when you're earning about 150 a week, paying 60-80 to your parents is just silly, especially when you only cost them 25 and help around the house


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,544 ✭✭✭✭Supercell


    Parents asking for upkeep money before their offspring is 18 is just wrong imho.

    After 18..well judgement call, housing prices are insane and getting worse..charge your kid and have them live with you forever or force them to save and be out from under your feet?

    Have a weather station?, why not join the Ireland Weather Network - http://irelandweather.eu/



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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 545 ✭✭✭MarinoMark


    if my parents asked me to pay towards the house i'd move out in a second. why pay 60 a week and have to live under their rules when you can pay 80 and be your own man. if it was a choice between putting up with the idiot that is my dad and 20-30 extra a week i know what i'd choose
    Why dont you get your own place,pay for your own food,gas,esb,phone etc,But do it now, while you still know everything !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,611 ✭✭✭✭Sam Vimes


    MarinoMark wrote:
    Why dont you get your own place,pay for your own food,gas,esb,phone etc,But do it now, while you still know everything !


    i never atually said i know everything, i said that at the moment living at home is a slightly better than living away

    benefits of at home:cheap
    drawbacks:have to put up with my dad

    benefits of away: don't have to put up with my dad
    drawbacks: expensive

    if i have to pay rent, living at home only has drawbacks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,644 ✭✭✭✭nesf


    Longfield wrote:
    Parents asking for upkeep money before their offspring is 18 is just wrong imho.

    It depends on what you're earning tbh. I was happily working full time during my summers when I was young. I could easily afford to help out, and in fairness if I was ever short money it wasn't withheld either. It does work both way imho.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,648 ✭✭✭smiles


    Since I live away from home at college, I dont give my parents anything. I'm paying my own rent/expenses.

    If I move home when I get a job, then deffo giving them money for that, how much? I'm not sure, will discuss it with them i guess!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,133 ✭✭✭mysterious


    I thinks it's fair to say if your over 18 and working with resonable amount of money coming its only fair to give a contribution to the parents.

    But when your are finacially dependant and going to college (maybe 40 hours a week looking for a partime job of 20 hours or working that already) is **** hell and the Parents just about paying your rent while your up in Dublin/Limerick or wherever, not only that going home at weekends getting abuse (utter abuse cus they can treat you like **** and patronise you) because they pay your rent, thats sick to me....

    When your working then you should pay your bit.. At the end of the day its the parents "JOB" to get thier siblings education and teach them to be the best they can be. Some Parents would crib over anything.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,673 ✭✭✭✭senordingdong


    Ah I just give her the ride of her life, once a week and she's happy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,095 ✭✭✭✭omb0wyn5ehpij9


    I pay nothing to my parents. Neither my sister or brother did either, but they did move out younger.




  • This is a sensitive issue for me right now! I'm in college, living away from home and I take out student loans to cover my living costs. My parents give me a bit of money for food etc but not that much, as they keep saying they can't afford it because there's 3 of us really close in age, etc etc. Which was fair enough. However, my brother went to college in England last September and dropped out after a few days. Cost my dad about 200 euro to go over and get him and his stuff. He was told if he wanted to live at home he had to get a job and do a part time college course. He got a job at McDonalds a few days a week, and started a course at the local college. He dropped out of the course in January saying it was 'useless'. My mum said he had to get a full time job and he looked at her like she was mad!! He thinks he's entitled to sit around the house and do nothing. He's now working weekends only at McDonalds, and doing nothing all week. He pays nothing to my parents, in fact he costs them money cos he's always on the Internet, using up electricity. He doesn't help around the house and sits around waiting for my mum to come home and make the dinner. The worst thing is, he makes loads of noise, stays up until 4am and then my mum is really tired at work. She doesn't know what to do with him, he completely ignores everything she says or even yells in her face.

    I don't know where he got the attitude from but he thinks he has the right to do whatever he wants. My dad has mentioned kicking him out to show him what the real world is like and my brother still doesn't get a clue. I am furious though because it's affecting me. I spent the last year at college working all kinds of crap jobs trying to get money to live on because my parents were apparently too poor and now they're supporting him. It's so unfair.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,984 ✭✭✭✭Lump


    I'm a big boy, I don't live at home! Shocker!

    John


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,673 ✭✭✭✭senordingdong


    This is a sensitive issue for me right now! I'm in college, living away from home and I take out student loans to cover my living costs. My parents give me a bit of money for food etc but not that much, as they keep saying they can't afford it because there's 3 of us really close in age, etc etc. Which was fair enough. However, my brother went to college in England last September and dropped out after a few days. Cost my dad about 200 euro to go over and get him and his stuff. He was told if he wanted to live at home he had to get a job and do a part time college course. He got a job at McDonalds a few days a week, and started a course at the local college. He dropped out of the course in January saying it was 'useless'. My mum said he had to get a full time job and he looked at her like she was mad!! He thinks he's entitled to sit around the house and do nothing. He's now working weekends only at McDonalds, and doing nothing all week. He pays nothing to my parents, in fact he costs them money cos he's always on the Internet, using up electricity. He doesn't help around the house and sits around waiting for my mum to come home and make the dinner. The worst thing is, he makes loads of noise, stays up until 4am and then my mum is really tired at work. She doesn't know what to do with him, he completely ignores everything she says or even yells in her face.

    I don't know where he got the attitude from but he thinks he has the right to do whatever he wants. My dad has mentioned kicking him out to show him what the real world is like and my brother still doesn't get a clue. I am furious though because it's affecting me. I spent the last year at college working all kinds of crap jobs trying to get money to live on because my parents were apparently too poor and now they're supporting him. It's so unfair.


    And you haven't thought of confronting him about it?~




  • And you haven't thought of confronting him about it?~

    Haha, obviously I have, many times. He is a lost cause. He just does not think about anything but himself. Last time over Christmas it ended up being a 2 hour argument, him yelling in my face, obscenities, telling me I was a sad loser and knew nothing about life and I'm narrow minded (I'm in college, lived in 3 different countries in the past 2 years, speak 4 languages, know loads of different people from different backgrounds, he still lives in a village and hangs around with 3 people he knows from school). He's ruining his own life as well with being so stubborn but he can't see it. He sees nothing wrong with talking to my mum like this either, insulting her and calling her stupid. I actually think he might have some mental disorder.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,388 ✭✭✭Kernel


    I don't know where he got the attitude from but he thinks he has the right to do whatever he wants. My dad has mentioned kicking him out to show him what the real world is like and my brother still doesn't get a clue. I am furious though because it's affecting me. I spent the last year at college working all kinds of crap jobs trying to get money to live on because my parents were apparently too poor and now they're supporting him. It's so unfair.

    Meh, the real reason you're pissed is because 'little princess' isn't getting as much as the brother. Stop being so jealous and petty.

    Your bro is pissed off and probably doesn't need you projecting on him right now. He's a young lad, that attitude is normal enough and he'll grow out of it and get on his feet.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,350 ✭✭✭WexCan


    I'm still stuck with family at the moment, €250 per month all inclusive, work full time, nice and handy. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,216 ✭✭✭Kur4mA


    I live with my Dad and don't pay him for my 'keep' as he wont take a cent off me. However, I do buy my own food and pay my own bills.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,984 ✭✭✭✭Lump


    You pay your own bills! Shocker! TBH, I think it's quite bad for parents to support their children when they are working full time. Children need to be independent, when they get into the real world, it'll be a kick in the nuts to see what things are really like.

    John


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