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Boards more crap than before?

  • 01-02-2006 10:08am
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,643 ✭✭✭


    Is it just me or has the recent influx of ladeez into boards (presumably to hunt highly paid, socially inept IT workers into extinction/marriage) resulted in it becoming an increasingly humourless autocracy?

    Now I know all you mods are going to steam in and say "its a thankless task keeping the mean streets of boards free from scum like you, you're not funny, I'm only here to seriously discuss Ashtanga Yoga and not be laughed at etc etc etc" (there you go, I've saved you the effort so don't bother).

    Maybe my ideas of what constitute humour and/or banter differ from the majority and/or the norm, but it seems of late that I've been getting more beatdowns than before - normally because someone with 4 posts to their name runs crying to teacher about how I've spoiled something.

    Anyway, the hinterweb - a man's world or a cissy PC playground? I'm starting to feel like one of those Japanese soldiers hiding up a mountain in The Philippines refusing to believe the War is over. Maybe its time to come down from the mountain and hang up my login and head over to ivenus to discuss trouser length and BMW convertibles.
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,088 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    I don't know if I'd say it's become more humorless, though there has been a sharp rise in over-the-top pc-ness in recent months alright :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43,045 ✭✭✭✭Nevyn


    There has definatly been an increase of a certain type of females,personally I'd say boards.ie becoming googlible and certain forum like Fashion and appearance.

    Boards.ie was the home for net nerds and gamers of many type who reguardless of gender had a certain type of humour, but that has changed.

    It certainly has become more serious, hate to say it but the 'Yore Ma!' of boards has long gone.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 990 ✭✭✭mickymg2003


    Some days its like watching paint dry and nothings happening but other days its fun.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,659 ✭✭✭Shabadu


    You know- these lollercon infidels, as I like to call them, normally congregate on certain fora. Just avoid the forum, and avoid the brunt of them. Liberal use of the ignore feature is also beneficial.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,643 ✭✭✭magpie


    these lollercon infidels, as I like to call them, normally congregate on certain fora. Just avoid the forum, and avoid the brunt of them

    Being banned from the fora in question also seems to be working a treat.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,314 ✭✭✭Talliesin


    I wasn't kidding [post=50804065]here[/post].


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 150 ✭✭@rchives


    You've proved his point really, haven't you?

    Besides, isn't the Cuckoos Nest the right place for this sort of drivel, so it hardly counts as using another forum as a substitute for one he's been banned from. Its not like trying to discuss Drum'N'Bass on the Christianity Forum is it?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,314 ✭✭✭Talliesin


    If he had of just posted drivel from the get-go I wouldn't have had a problem.

    This forum does not exist to enable people to usurp bans. Trying to do so is no different than re-registering.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,659 ✭✭✭Shabadu


    Jesus- I just re-read his post. I saw lads, not 'ladeez'. So this is the wimmin folks fault, eh? You know, there are lot of stupid people out there, male and female. Don't discriminate against the male thickos. Tar them all with the same brush.

    Also, there are a lot of sound new people too IMO. Everyone was new once. I'm just referring to the 'lol omg u goin out 2nite?! lets hook up r sumtin??!' crowd. There seems to be an equal amount of both genders involved in these exchanges.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,314 ✭✭✭Talliesin


    I thought magpie was female anyway.


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  • Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 32,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭DeVore


    I'm 35. Call me old if you will but I was rather looking forward to another 40 odd years of being in this corporeal form.

    However, I'm getting undeniably middle aged, as are a large number of Boards users. You may not know it but there was a baby boom in the irish population in the 70's which has followed me throughout my life making my year the largest Leaving Cert ever, the house prices exploding as I think about buying one, car consumption peaking as I reach mid 20s etc.

    My mates now tend to have dinner parties rather then decks-n-pill partys. We talk about kids, cars, politics (a lot), house prices, the government, George Bush, Scientologists and Marriage among other things. These arent poe faced seminars, we laugh and make jokes at Mr Bushes expense mostly but they are definitely NOT "A Weekend at Bernies".

    My point is that "Yore Ma!" is funny for a while, its funny between mates and thats where it came from. Its like when you are sitting with just your mates you can make fart jokes but when someone brings a friend you've all never met before everyone kinda sits up straighter an minds their manners a little more.

    My point is that Boards is no longer the place it started as. It too has changed and matured and taken a look at itself and realised that it can't really afford to be the goofy weird kid of the Irish internet any longer. Its time to grow up and sit with the adults.

    Boards offers too much in the coming war between Governmental control (like asking Google for all its records etc) and public freedom to disseminate information to a large number of people.

    Sorry if thats all serious and lacking smileys but thats kinda the point.

    DeV.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 150 ✭✭@rchives


    This forum does not exist to enable people to usurp bans. Trying to do so is no different than re-registering.

    I don't follow your logic here, he/she/it was banned from AH, tried to post something in Feedback (which judging by Dev's response was the right place to put it), it was then moved to the recycle bin whereupon you issued your warning.

    He/she/it then posted the poll in the cuckoos nest as a more appropriate place for it. Is there something in the AH charter or Cuckoos Nest charter that states exactly what you can or cannot post in these forums?

    You seem to have taken Magpie's jokey comment about posting in Feedback as he/she was banned from AH seriously and made some unfathomable leap into equating this with re-registering. Either way a site wide ban for this is unbelievably over the top, and I'm amazed and worried that it hasn't been overturned by a higher power.
    Magpie is just one of those people unable to cope with boards going mainstream.

    So are all of these people to be liquidated in case they upset progress?
    I'm 35

    Me too.
    My point is that Boards is no longer the place it started as. It too has changed and matured and taken a look at itself and realised that it can't really afford to be the goofy weird kid of the Irish internet any longer. Its time to grow up and sit with the adults.

    I agree, which is why I can't understand why the creator of something as funny as this should be booted out to make room for a bunch of 20-somethings who want to swap photos of each other and flirt. My understanding is that Magpie was compaining about the kind of people who make fart jokes being defended by the Mods when they were subjected to a bit of sarcasm or the like.

    Surely if boards is to become more serious you're weeding out the wrong people?

    I would like to see Magpie reinstated, or at least moved to prison - his/her prison diary would be better than reading most of the bilge on this site at present.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,039 ✭✭✭✭Kintarō Hattori


    In terms of humour, yes then I think it has definetly lost something. I don't believe that has anything to do with the influx of ladies here, I think it's more to do with the way society is going. We are all becoming more 'self-important', which I don't think is necessarily the best thing.

    Boards of the past was a much more liberal place where no-one took things too seriously, after all it is the internet. Lately it does seem that everyone is taking things way too much to heart or too seriously, taking offence at small things. In relation to that, boards of course has seen a massive rise in the amount of fools signing up merely to cause hassle.

    It has become more serious and less fun, but then it has grown considerably in size and it is well moderted in the sense that there is quite a few of them and they do keep a close eye on everything that goes on (maybe too close sometimes!!!).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Boards.ie never has and never will remain the same as it is at any point in time. As more and more people join, the diversity of humours, opinions and sensitivities is forever diluting. Where once you could easily find like-minded people who'd laugh at a CS video posted on AH where some guy gets fragged in the face every time he respawns, now you'll be the minority. Most other people won't find it funny and will let you know about it.

    The key here is how you deal with it. Boards's entertainment value is a function of your own sense of humour, not an overall measure of entertainment value. As with any community, as people continue to flow in, the landscape will continue to change, the answers you get to your questions will change, and the attitudes will shift. As with any community for whom this happens, there are always those who this change will not suit, and others who simply don't like things to change, and will head off to some other forum.

    We've lost plenty of good people who contributed in the past, and will lose plenty of others in the future. Most people either just log off, or post a simple goodbye. Others complain about the changing face of boards and attempt to rebel against a self-controlled, self-governing meritocracy (which boards has pretty much now become), which is like telling everyone in the community that they suck, and you're right. So ultimately you're going to be told to piss off and be kicked out.

    As DeV quite rightly points out, people born between 1975 and 1985 would easily be in the majority now, and more are even flowing in. In the last five years, this group has gone from kids playing games and college students drinking beer, to managers playing games, buying cars, homes, having babies and preparing to run the country. If you're disappointed that your peers aren't talking the same way that they did 3 or four years ago, you're going to continue to be disappointed, both on boards and in real life.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,314 ✭✭✭Talliesin


    @rchives wrote:
    I don't follow your logic here, he/she/it was banned from AH, tried to post something in Feedback (which judging by Dev's response was the right place to put it), it was then moved to the recycle bin whereupon you issued your warning.
    I issued my warning before it was moved.
    @rchives wrote:
    He/she/it then posted the poll in the cuckoos nest as a more appropriate place for it. Is there something in the AH charter or Cuckoos Nest charter that states exactly what you can or cannot post in these forums?
    She said she was posting an AH like post in Feedback to avoid the ban. I told her not too do that again. She did it again. I acted as I said I would.
    @rchives wrote:
    You seem to have taken Magpie's jokey comment about posting in Feedback as he/she was banned from AH seriously
    It could be that magpie was joking. Unfortunately I can never tell with magpie, due to her complete inability to be funny (except for The Roisin Bungle Blog, though that was one good joke done to the point where it was no longer funny too).
    @rchives wrote:
    and made some unfathomable leap into equating this with re-registering.
    My difference with her actions are exactly the same as the reason we don't allow for re-registering to get around bans.
    @rchives wrote:
    Either way a site wide ban for this is unbelievably over the top, and I'm amazed and worried that it hasn't been overturned by a higher power.
    Site wide bans are the normal action when someone is trying to abuse boards as a whole to get around a moderator action in an individual forum.

    When an AH mod tells me her ban there is lifted the site-wide ban will end.
    @rchives wrote:
    I agree, which is why I can't understand why the creator of something as funny as this should be booted out to make room for a bunch of 20-somethings who want to swap photos of each other and flirt.
    That's mis-stating the case on many grounds.
    @rchives wrote:
    My understanding is that Magpie was compaining about the kind of people who make fart jokes being defended by the Mods when they were subjected to a bit of sarcasm or the like.
    My understanding was that magpie was complaining about the kind of people who make fart jokes being told to STFU. In any case that's not the reason for the ban.
    @rchives wrote:
    I would like to see Magpie reinstated, or at least moved to prison - his/her prison diary would be better than reading most of the bilge on this site at present.
    Oh yes, after magpie was previously sitebanned at her own request she managed to get banned from prison. I'm not sure if I can lift that ban without letting her post in all threads. I've lifted it, so lets see. If it does let her post in all threads there I'll ban her from prison again until ecksor can sort it out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,446 ✭✭✭✭amp


    Fine ignore me. Serious posts removed and dumped in Feedback.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,930 ✭✭✭✭TerrorFirmer


    seamus wrote:
    a CS video posted on AH where some guy gets fragged in the face every time he respawns,

    .

    Sorry to dilute the serious tone somewhat but.....lol.

    The unfortunate thing for you older members is that although boards has changed from its intial roots, as it grows and adapts to the recent boom of users the vast majority won't know anything different.

    I like boards the way it is, and I've only been here a year. I'm sure as every year goes by since it first existed it gets further and further away from what it once what but thats inevitable.

    But as I said, I'm only here a year, and I find it great, don't have any problem with the current general run of things.


  • Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 32,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭DeVore


    Something you (all) and many others havent gotten. I'll do my best to explain but it might be tricky.

    I have a very very clear idea of where I want Boards to go. I'm on a mission. Cloud is too, we're on slight different missions but we're fellow travellers.
    God only know what mission Regi Ecks and Vex are on. But they seem happy to go the same direction as Cloud and I.

    So we're going somewhere, lets call that place B.
    We started at A when we were a small group of mates.

    But I never EVER wanted to create a small site for a small group of mates. So I while we started at A we're on the road to B.

    B is where everyone in Ireland has a Boards account. Its used to authenticate banking transactions and the government announces and discusses policy here. There are 50,000 *mods* and no other Irish website as they are all out of business. We've a while to go yet.

    So we're going from A to B and, this is the cool part, you can come too! Its like a big hippy Mystery Machine van! Everyone pile in we're going to B if thats any use to you!!

    Now, some people get all pissed off when they realise the van is leaving for B. "But I like A" they grumble. Some get out of the van, some decide "ok lets see what B is like" and some come part of the way with us. Some kick and scream until everyone agrees they need to chill or get out of the van. Some throw themselves bodily FROM the van by choice but others try to grab the steering wheel and force us to take the van to where THEY want to go.

    Boards as has gone from an underground, somewhat anarchic definitely definant subculture into something more mainstream. I guess this is the music worlds equivalent of "selling out" or "that difficult second album".

    Now, I've never heard of Magpie before. My very first ever post to read by this person is the first one. Go back and read it again and tell me that that sounds like someone we want here? It sounds like a typical nasty person with issues with females, authority and a self image of "the last lone hero, fighting the law... and smoking a cigarette". Sorry if I'm wrong but like, it IS a limited communications form.

    DeV.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 42,362 Mod ✭✭✭✭Beruthiel


    DeVore wrote:
    B is where everyone in Ireland has a Boards account. Its used to authenticate banking transactions and the government announces and discusses policy here. There are 50,000 *mods* and no other Irish website as they are all out of business..

    I see you like to think small :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,958 ✭✭✭✭RuggieBear


    Christ, i'm not sure i like the sound of B at all...are you Bill Gates in disguise?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,446 ✭✭✭✭amp


    When boards takes over the world I bags Australia.

    luthor.jpg


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 42,362 Mod ✭✭✭✭Beruthiel


    amp wrote:
    When boards takes over the world I bags Australia

    that's just greedy amp
    I'd be happy with a small tropical island somewhere


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Now, I've never heard of Magpie before. My very first ever post to read by this person is the first one. Go back and read it again and tell me that that sounds like someone we want here? It sounds like a typical nasty person with issues with females, authority and a self image of "the last lone hero, fighting the law... and smoking a cigarette". Sorry if I'm wrong but like, it IS a limited communications form. etc...

    What a load of cock! Magpie can be annoying I've banned him at least once but I dread the day when he is considered to be the wrong sort of person to be allowed on boards.ie in the first instance...
    I'm 35. Call me old if you will but I was rather looking forward to another 40 odd years of being in this corporeal form.

    35 going on 75 by the sounds of it. At 40 I trust I can still find in me the spirt of a 20 year old, the day I think as old as I am its over! :eek: (a smilie for the youngsters)

    Boards ie the place to unwind and chat, argue, impart useful/useless information for the partial amusement of oneself and others.



    Mike.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,930 ✭✭✭✭TerrorFirmer


    I think magpie is a great poster. Arguments are always an interesting and well structured read. :)


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,110 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    mike65 wrote:
    What a load of cock! Magpie can be annoying I've banned him at least once but I dread the day when he is considered to be the wrong sort of person to be allowed on boards.ie in the first instance...
    Heh, magpie was ok, bit of a closeminded dude, but at least he hated everybody and everything equally. Don't see why the ban should be permanent. Some good reads, sure he got occasianally banned but nothing too bad.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 150 ✭✭@rchives


    I hate to be the one to point out the irony / hypocrisy of this, but as far as I can make out this is what happened:

    Magpie initially put this post into Feedback, it was moved to the recycle bin by Beruthiel. Taliesin then threatened to ban him/her for "cross posting" or some other such makey-uppy offence.

    Magpie then posted this in the Cuckoos Nest whereupon he was promptly and summarily sitebanned by Taliesin for the abovementioned offence.

    Serious conversation then ensued and the thread was moved to feedback, where Magpie put it originally and where it is now being discussed.

    Magpie however is still banned. Why?

    See here

    and I quote
    magpie
    are you looking to get banned from feedback too?

    this is not the forum for this
    B

    I presume whatever offender moved this back to Feedback is going to be banned immediately?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,145 ✭✭✭DonkeyStyle \o/


    I find magpies posts like a breath of fresh air and would like to subscribe to his newsletter.
    Free magpie tbh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,628 ✭✭✭Asok


    DeVore wrote:
    Something you (all) and many others havent gotten. I'll do my best to explain but it might be tricky.

    I have a very very clear idea of where I want Boards to go. I'm on a mission. Cloud is too, we're on slight different missions but we're fellow travellers.
    God only know what mission Regi Ecks and Vex are on. But they seem happy to go the same direction as Cloud and I.

    So we're going somewhere, lets call that place B.
    We started at A when we were a small group of mates.

    But I never EVER wanted to create a small site for a small group of mates. So I while we started at A we're on the road to B.

    B is where everyone in Ireland has a Boards account. Its used to authenticate banking transactions and the government announces and discusses policy here. There are 50,000 *mods* and no other Irish website as they are all out of business. We've a while to go yet.

    So we're going from A to B and, this is the cool part, you can come too! Its like a big hippy Mystery Machine van! Everyone pile in we're going to B if thats any use to you!!

    Now, some people get all pissed off when they realise the van is leaving for B. "But I like A" they grumble. Some get out of the van, some decide "ok lets see what B is like" and some come part of the way with us. Some kick and scream until everyone agrees they need to chill or get out of the van. Some throw themselves bodily FROM the van by choice but others try to grab the steering wheel and force us to take the van to where THEY want to go.

    Boards as has gone from an underground, somewhat anarchic definitely definant subculture into something more mainstream. I guess this is the music worlds equivalent of "selling out" or "that difficult second album".

    Now, I've never heard of Magpie before. My very first ever post to read by this person is the first one. Go back and read it again and tell me that that sounds like someone we want here? It sounds like a typical nasty person with issues with females, authority and a self image of "the last lone hero, fighting the law... and smoking a cigarette". Sorry if I'm wrong but like, it IS a limited communications form.

    DeV.


    Summary : We need to buy a van


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,314 ✭✭✭Talliesin


    @rchives wrote:
    Taliesin then threatened to ban him/her for "cross posting" or some other such makey-uppy offence.
    It could take you less time to click the link and read why I threatened to ban her than it did to type your summary.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,446 ✭✭✭✭amp


    @rchives wrote:
    I presume whatever offender moved this back to Feedback is going to be banned immediately?

    I moved it from TCN to Feedback. If it's moved back I will edit all posts to conform with TCN standards. Unless of course TCN is now the designated place for Admins and Smods to post their opinions on boards.ie's future. If so I missed the memo on that one.

    As far as the actual contents of this thread I couldn't care less. It's nothing to do with TCN and should never have been posted there in the first place. However I have no opinion on magpie, his/her banning or the future of boards.ie. I'm just moderating.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,483 ✭✭✭✭daveirl


    This post has been deleted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,658 ✭✭✭✭The Sweeper


    We're going to need a van and a stick with nails in by the looks of it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Ah Dave, another sceptic. Be gone with you (us) ;)

    Mike.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,231 ✭✭✭✭Sparky


    The world evolves, Humans evolve, technology evolves and so will boards
    I remember boards motto was creating an irish online community and it has happened, we should think of ourselfs as boardies and lets face it boardsies will evolve.

    Tom, John and all the other admins at the end of the day have done a wonderfull job and im sure they see it as an achievement and i do hope they are proud of it, hell i would be.

    Do you still drive an old battered up car, or still have a 1960's tv, so lets face it, move with the times or get left behind.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,762 ✭✭✭WizZard


    Sparky-s wrote:
    The world evolves, Humans evolve, technology evolves
    And by simple logic I conclude that boards is actually human. We are all posting ideas into someone's head in an eerie "Being John Malkovitch" situation...

    Alternatively, boards is the world


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,083 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    Last night's thing with the jazz music was cool. I've never seen an OpenGL environment look that good before!


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 42,362 Mod ✭✭✭✭Beruthiel


    @rchives wrote:
    I presume whatever offender moved this back to Feedback is going to be banned immediately?

    why are you asking me?
    I certainly did not move this thread and if I had, it would not have been to the TCN :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,290 ✭✭✭damien


    mike65 wrote:
    What a load of cock! Magpie can be annoying I've banned him at least once but I dread the day when he is considered to be the wrong sort of person to be allowed on boards.ie in the first instance...

    Hear hear!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,335 ✭✭✭Cake Fiend


    DeVore wrote:
    You may not know it but there was a baby boom in the irish population in the 70's which has followed me throughout my life

    .... are you telling us you were a "free love" baby?


  • Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 32,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭DeVore


    I was conceived at roughly the same time as Woodstock was happening.

    DeV.


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  • Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 32,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭DeVore


    Beruthiel wrote:
    I see you like to think small :D
    Nothing about me is small, baby.... fnarrrrrr.


    DeV.
    (dick joke in honour of Bill Hicks :) )


  • Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 32,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭DeVore


    amp wrote:
    I moved it from TCN to Feedback. If it's moved back I will edit all posts to conform with TCN standards. Unless of course TCN is now the designated place for Admins and Smods to post their opinions on boards.ie's future. If so I missed the memo on that one.

    As far as the actual contents of this thread I couldn't care less. It's nothing to do with TCN and should never have been posted there in the first place. However I have no opinion on magpie, his/her banning or the future of boards.ie. I'm just moderating.
    Yeah, Amp is right about The Cuckoo's Nest. Its not a dumping ground for anything we can't find a home for. Its for silliness and surreality. He's dead right in what he says about it. Its for serious silliness not silly seriousness.

    DeV.


  • Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 32,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭DeVore


    daveirl wrote:
    This post has been deleted.
    Things don't always go the way I want them to. I think you have to agree that things have grown and changed around here. Perhaps I'm a dreamer, perhaps you are right and I'll never achieve my goals.

    I'd rather that then a sit back and throw stones attitude.

    DeV.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43,045 ✭✭✭✭Nevyn


    Gah my eyes the quintupile postings.

    As much as boards.ie has organically evolved I guess it was nice to know that Someone had an eye to the horizon, someone who had an idea what an internet iceburgs is.

    So in the Admins we trust.

    It is comforting to know that the admins are still arround and looking to steer the site in certain directions as as long as none of us take boards.ie for granted and is unsinkible.

    Life is change, what doesn't change dies and undergoes the biggest change of all.


  • Subscribers Posts: 9,716 ✭✭✭CuLT


    DeVore wrote:
    Things don't always go the way I want them to. I think you have to agree that things have grown and changed around here. Perhaps I'm a dreamer, perhaps you are right and I'll never achieve my goals.

    I'd rather that then a sit back and throw stones attitude.

    DeV.
    Jesus, DeV banned from Feedback for extreme multiple posting :v:

    And I think you could have very easily gotten away with "you may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one".

    I think too often people view you as some sort of prolific businessman gone mad, hence the disappointment when certain deliveries aren't made. I find I have a much easier ride thinking of you as an eccentric religious leader who occasionally smokes a bit too much of the old Ceremonial Pipe and spills the beans on current ideas.
    You seem to be on more of a crusade than a business model, which is fine; people don't seem to grasp that we're all guests in the crusaders camp, some of whom decided that it would be at least an interesting journey and enlisted.

    Sorry if my own impression horrifies you :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,842 ✭✭✭steveland?


    daveirl wrote:
    This post has been deleted.
    Well let's break down that "2005 and beyond..." post and see what was done...

    I'd like to think I'm a bit objective... I haven't been here a long time so I don't know what it was like in "the glory days"... I don't hang around with the admins so I'm not gonna kiss their asses...
    DeVore wrote:
    1. We are broadly happy with how Boards works. The changes will be to ensure it continues to work this way in the future.
    As far as I can tell boards.ie is running fairly much the same way as it was when I first joined in March of 2004. The main thing I can see that's changed is that the backup time is much, much less than before (15 minutes or so as opposed to nearly an hour)
    DeVore wrote:
    2. We cannot withstand the growth we had last year again this year. If our level of growth even just repeated itself this year we'd have the busiest site in the country. Twice as busy as Ryanair.com. We havent a chance of surviving that as we are, we can hear the creaks already and by 2006 we'll collapse under our own weight.
    New servers with new hardware were installed and boards is quicker than it was under the same amount of pressure last year or so.
    DeVore wrote:
    3. We dont want to change the basics, we need to find money from somewhere but we will not charge for the services we provide (and have provided historically). IE: we refute the Pay-To-Talk model (ala somethingawful) as being anathema to Boards history and culture. (that said dont be surprised if the Legal Highs forum is created as a subscriber only forum to protect us legally, thats a special case though).
    Boards still doesn't charge to post, it's a completely free service that people seem to feel the need to moan about... I can understand where daveirl, as a subscriber, is coming from but I don't think the people who pay nothing (including myself tbh) should go moaning about how "crap" boards is... especially when it's certain people that contribute nothing but "crap" to it...

    When the Sex and Sexuality forum was created there was a huge influx of subscribers. As soon as this happened the admins must have been tempted to make much more forums subscriber only... they didn't... nearly everything else remained completely free...
    DeVore wrote:
    4. The admins are not able to keep up with the demands on our time, we've literally reached the limits of what 5 guys can do in our spare time. This is leading to longer and longer response times to Mod requests and user support. Also its leading to requests being handled on the basis of "I have time to do A right now but not time to do B so while B is a higher priority, I'll do A now to get it out of the way". Hence the odd order of things getting sorted as Muck pointed out (at least I *think* it was Muck!)
    The admins created the CMods around the time of this original post. They then created SMods who have taken a lot of the slack. If you've ever felt that someone's posting just spam and reported it, either in feedback or in the moderators forum, it's been taken care of almost straight away if the evidence points towards them being a spamming muppet
    DeVore wrote:
    5. We need to decide what we want Boards to be in the future or it will drift aimlessly. Thats going to bug a few people because any direction we take, some people will object to it. Thats life unfortunately


    So, in the next 6-8 weeks some fairly serious changes will occur and I'll keep you abreast of them here. Hopefully it will make Boards *more* like the place we all love but it needs careful handling and some trust on all sides that change will be for the better.

    I know this post says lots but tells you very little but honestly I want to be able to adopt any ideas the Mods come up with and theres little point requesting their input if I've already announced a plan now is there!

    I think you'll find the new admin changes to be good and our cash generation plans are all non-invasive and voluntary. We are still just as opposed to popups, mail address selling and commercial sponsorship as ever and I *can* tell you now that you wont see any of that sort of nonsense. "The Broadband Forum , brought to you by Eircom" isnt an option

    DeV.
    Fair enough there hasn't been a lot of noticable change but the way certain things work in the background (SMods being able to perform site-bans, etc.) has helped cull a lot of the spam on boards...

    We still don't have anything like "The Broadband Forum, brought to you by Eircom"... You can still go onto the Broadband Forum and complain about an ISP that you don't feel satisfied about... in fact there's a petition of sorts against IBB and a survey on how (un)happy you are with your ISP.


    My point is that a fairly large proportion of the promises DeVore made in that post that you quoted have been implemented sitewide...

    You don't have to pay to post here, you don't have to contribute anything constructive... There's a forum for nearly anything you'd want and, if there isn't, you can pop over to the Forums forum and request one...

    Fair enough there's a couple of decisions I don't agree with throughout the site, there's a few promises that never came to fruition, but boards still provides you with a place to air your opinions, vent your anger, learn something new, get suggestions on all sorts of stuff, a lot of other crap that a lot of fee-charging websites don't even provide you with


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,083 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    I have to agree. The changes have been evolutionary rather than revolutionary, but the fact is that sensible changes were made, and as a result boards.ie is ticking along smoothly rather than collapsing under its own weight. And it's still free, and for that price we have even more services this year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,034 ✭✭✭Devon


    DeVore wrote:
    So we're going from A to B and, this is the cool part, you can come too! Its like a big hippy Mystery Machine van! Everyone pile in we're going to B if thats any use to you!!

    Just so as you and Cloud know in advance, I've rigged the van to explode if it goes under 80kmph in Ireland, or 50mph if we go abroad.

    I demand immediate admin rights to boards.ie and a Ferrari.

    I've always wanted a Ferrari.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,909 ✭✭✭✭Wertz


    mike65 wrote:
    What a load of cock! Magpie can be annoying I've banned him at least once but I dread the day when he is considered to be the wrong sort of person to be allowed on boards.ie in the first instance...



    35 going on 75 by the sounds of it. At 40 I trust I can still find in me the spirt of a 20 year old, the day I think as old as I am its over! :eek: (a smilie for the youngsters)

    Boards ie the place to unwind and chat, argue, impart useful/useless information for the partial amusement of oneself and others.



    Mike.

    The voice of reason....whatever Magpie's seemingly outdated and possibly sexist attitude, they have a solid point judging by just the front page in AH this w/e, alone.
    He/she is worth a hundred of the txt kiddies, be they male or female and banning him/her for posting something along those lines is both ironic and downright sad. (I know the ban is not strictly for that, but it has it's roots in that).


    On the whole "influx of idiots" point...I think it has a lot to do with the prevalence of computers in homes, schools and workplaces and the increasing amount of people using them...back when boards started, a PC in the home was a lot rarer and PCs in the workspace were used solely for work (well a lot more than what they are today)...now that any idiot can have a net connection we're faced with any idiot being able to post on forums...
    That sounds very elitist and I don't want to come across that way but that's currently how I see it (and not just on boards.ie).
    Since there is no real vetting procedure to keep them from posting, other than banning after the fact, we're probably stuck with it...maybe we should adopt an aptitude test on the registration form? :v:


    Another signature on the "Free Magpie" petition, for all the good it'll do...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,483 ✭✭✭✭daveirl


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