Something to talk about...

Bartonprince

Nobody seems to know what is the best class.

I'm a warlock now. And everyone is always debating "Who are the hardest class to beat" and for a Warlock it appears to be hunters, paladins, shadow priests and Warriors. And othere Warlocks say they're easy..

This must mean they have the class balance right because if you're good you can win.

I had a guy telling me last night that Shaman are way overpowered and they should take penalties for things.... I heard different from other people.

I've played:

Hunter: Very good, great damage at the lvli was at. Good tanking. Decent Armor.

Mage: Couldn't knock snow off a rope at lower levels. Seems to be different higher up the scale.

Priest: Nearly died of boredome at lvl12...

Warrior: = Meathead.

Shaman: Very fun at lower lvl's

Warlock: this seems to be the one for me. Once i got my DoT's and the dog that does magic, it seems to be really fun. But hard to get used. to.

Anyway. No-one else is talking so i thought i'd say something...

Dustaz

Dunno bout anyone else but im sure that Bartonprinces racial bonus is +Throwing skills and Bezerking....

dlofnep

There is no best class. Every class has problems with another class. There is no superpowered class. Shaman's are powerful in bursts, but unless they melee spec, they will eat Mana and will only be useful for short periods.

Warriors are great as "tanks".. Priests as "healers". In PvP all classes have their advantages and disadvantages.





..rogues are the best.

sunzz

Barton I'd easily say you would have been pushing epic mount time if you actually stuck with one character.

trolls lee, just learn to love.

DRakE

Dustaz wrote:

Dunno bout anyone else but im sure that Bartonprinces racial bonus is +Throwing skills and Bezerking....

haha

Dr_Teeth

Barton, until you've leveled a class to 60 and equipped it well there's no point worrying about class balance. Pick whatever is fun.

If you really can't resist thinking about who owns who, I would say a well geared Demonology Warlock is the best 1 v 1 class and a well geared Surv/Marks Hunter is the best battleground class. By the time you've leveled up of course, things may well be different.

Kiith

how many of these classes have you played past the 10-15 mark? cause you cant make any sort of accurate comparison until you have.

i've played a lock to 57 (oh so close), a pally to 46 and a priest to 15. what i've learned is that some people just suck at certain classes, and then blaim it on the class itself.

just stick to one bloody class, get to 40+ then have this conversation again...

Bartonprince

Kiith wrote:

how many of these classes have you played past the 10-15 mark? cause you cant make any sort of accurate comparison until you have.

i've played a lock to 57 (oh so close), a pally to 46 and a priest to 15. what i've learned is that some people just suck at certain classes, and then blaim it on the class itself.

just stick to one bloody class, get to 40+ then have this conversation again...

Why only 57 on a warlock!?

Anyway, i' flying it now i tell ya! Just got my tank pet!

sunzz

I take it you mean the voidwalker

sucubus for the win.

Jim

There is no bloody best class, thats supposed to be the whole point of the balance in the game. Pick whatever bloody class you find playing the most fun.

Christ.

Bartonprince

Jimeatsmenu wrote:

There is no bloody best class, thats supposed to be the whole point of the balance in the game. Pick whatever bloody class you find playing the most fun.

Christ.

I have some chill pills here if you like....

Jim

I'm sorry, its just when someone continunaly asks the same question, and continunaly gets the same answer, and continunaly ignores the answer it takes some drilling to get it through.

DRakE

Jimeatsmenu wrote:

I'm sorry, its just when someone continunaly asks the same question, and continunaly gets the same answer, and continunaly ignores the answer it takes some drilling to get it through.

for truth.

BloodBath

There is no best class. Every class has problems with another class. There is no superpowered class. Shaman's are powerful in bursts, but unless they melee spec, they will eat Mana and will only be useful for short periods.

How wrong you are noble omoplata. Locks are by far the most imba 1v1 class in the game. If you get beaten by any caster as a lock then you need to stop playing the game tbh. It's all down to choice of pet though.

Nerf deathcoil!

sunzz

cry me a river jason.

:rolleyes:

dlofnep

BloodBath wrote:

How wrong you are noble omoplata. Locks are by far the most imba 1v1 class in the game. If you get beaten by any caster as a lock then you need to stop playing the game tbh. It's all down to choice of pet though.

Nerf deathcoil!

I'm a rogue. What do I know about casting?

Horsefumbler

troll shammy?

Bartonprince

Jimeatsmenu wrote:

I'm sorry, its just when someone continunaly asks the same question, and continunaly gets the same answer, and continunaly ignores the answer it takes some drilling to get it through.

Again, calm down princess..... Some of us don't get time to play all the time because of lives.... I just wanted to make an informed decision, and i feel with Warlock i have made the correct one.

Besides, there needs to be some life put into these boards. No-body talks about anything really.

Woden

i've got odds saying you'll get it to some low level and come backing whining about something or other. Looking for something else to play

kayos

Every class is good, every class has a class that in most 1 v 1 cases will beat it.

Most says Shaman is the most imba class in 1 v 1 but I would say warlocks are up there if they are played with a bit of skill.

From this topic I think you should pick the Paladin class, it sounds like your class. They are a pain in the ass, stun you not just with stuns but with stupidity as well. Yes mister paladin that bubble is really going to save you when your standing in the middle of a group of horde! And repeatidly do the same thing over and over again, run in tickle peoples feet with a crappy AE and then bubble and run away again.

Kiith

kayos wrote:

From this topic I think you should pick the Paladin class, it sounds like your class. They are a pain in the ass, stun you not just with stuns but with stupidity as well. Yes mister paladin that bubble is really going to save you when your standing in the middle of a group of horde! And repeatidly do the same thing over and over again, run in tickle peoples feet with a crappy AE and then bubble and run away again.

i hate it when people bitch about pally's using the bubble as a way of escaping or lasting longer then others. yes, it can be very useful when 5 horde try to gank you, but 10 seconds later your still gonna die. and yes, you can shield + hs, but i dont see how dishonourable this is, when your being ganked by 5 horde. without the bubble, pallys would just be **** warriors, who can heal ever so slightly, and have survivability.

loads of people bitch about pally's, yet i've seen way more rogues/druids shapeshift and run like a bitch, or rogues vanish, heal, then come back when your fighting a mob, or hunter runs, then hides behind a hill and hits you for like 3000 damage in 2 seconds.

as for most imba, ya, atm the warlock is probably overpowered, but its a nice change to the old way of being a totally broken class. maybe blizz is just making up for the 6 patches that fixed nothing.

Drakar

I don't think people have an objection to paladins using a bubble if they are ganked by 5 people. I think people find it annoying that paladins run into a group of 5 people and then use their bubble thinking it's a get out of jail card.

Bartonprince

Dataisgod wrote:

i've got odds saying you'll get it to some low level and come backing whining about something or other. Looking for something else to play

Nope, I'm really liking Warlock now. I have met a few other locks through traveling around and we group up for quests and stuff now. I have a nice wand that i'm using which does good damage for my lvl. (Lv15 at the moment and my wand has a DPS of 17.5 which is very good.).

I think the wand i'm using has a higher DPS then my lvl3 Shadow Bolt!

Anyway, i really like it. It just took me a good while to figure out what i wanted ina class. It's a lot more complicated then most other classes but i think thats what i was looking for.

I have some decent enough gear that i have quested for. Most of it is Green.
With my alchemy/clothes/imp i can get my health up to 480 and armor to around 370 which seems ok for my lvl so i'm not getting totally killed.

My only problem is this. I've done the Kharanos/loch modan/thelsamar/goldshire/westfall route for quests. And i know next to go to darkfall or whatever it's called wghich should bring me up to around lvl25 or so. But after that i don't know where to go.

joe_chicken

Bartonprince wrote:

My only problem is this. I've done the Kharanos/loch modan/thelsamar/goldshire/westfall route for quests. And i know next to go to darkfall or whatever it's called wghich should bring me up to around lvl25 or so. But after that i don't know where to go.

Here's an idea! Play and see... when you finish quests in a certain area, usually theres a quest to point you in the right direction

Have you been to Redridge? or the wetlands? just play... explore... if you find somewhere that theres enemies around your level, play there

Bartonprince

joe_chicken wrote:

Here's an idea! Play and see... when you finish quests in a certain area, usually theres a quest to point you in the right direction

Have you been to Redridge? or the wetlands? just play... explore... if you find somewhere that theres enemies around your level, play there

Heres an idea, lets stop being smart a*&Y*&s.
I have been to redridge before and seemd to lose track as there weren't many quests there.

koneko

Bartonprince wrote:

Again, calm down princess..... Some of us don't get time to play all the time because of lives.... I just wanted to make an informed decision, and i feel with Warlock i have made the correct one.

Besides, there needs to be some life put into these boards. No-body talks about anything really.

Alright there "princess", stop baiting people. If you don't like the boards, and insist the people here have no lives, then I really have to wonder why you're posting here at all.
The boards could do with a bit of livening up, but constantly asking the same questions isn't going to do it. Now play nice.

Dustaz

Bartonprince wrote:

I have been to redridge before and seemd to lose track as there weren't many quests there.

lmao, this gets better and better

Bartonprince

Dustaz wrote:

lmao, this gets better and better

ok it's turned from a "what to be" thread, into a "killbarton thread" hehe.

i am a warlock who will be offered no direction.

/endthread

PS: This game is a lot less "chatty" then Starwars Galaxies... Maybe because of the SWG player community and such things as player cities etc...

Anyway.

sunzz

God you actually were able to play swg

On a side note there is LOADS of quests in the red mountains from 16+ onwards to at least 22, then head east to northshire, then go to stv then tanaris then ungor/felwood etc etc etc.

There is ALWAYS an npc to point you in the right direction!

Kiith

i went, roughly, elwynn, westfall, lakeshire/loch modan, duskwood/wetlands,a small bit in astranaar, then stv/desolace/1k needles etc...

you'dd be there till about 40, and after that, its tanaris/hinterlands/stv still etc...

anonymous_joe

I've a nightie so I spent my low levels in Kalimdor. Try Ashenvale, has Astranaar which gives lot's of quests and a few other places.

If your on a PvP realm watch your back though. Lot's of Horde and Ally floating about. Oh and always plenty of raids.

kayos

Kiith wrote:

i hate it when people bitch about pally's using the bubble as a way of escaping or lasting longer then others. yes, it can be very useful when 5 horde try to gank you, but 10 seconds later your still gonna die. and yes, you can shield + hs, but i dont see how dishonourable this is, when your being ganked by 5 horde. without the bubble, pallys would just be **** warriors, who can heal ever so slightly, and have survivability.

loads of people bitch about pally's, yet i've seen way more rogues/druids shapeshift and run like a bitch, or rogues vanish, heal, then come back when your fighting a mob, or hunter runs, then hides behind a hill and hits you for like 3000 damage in 2 seconds.

Ok bit of background, PvE server, Allience are the ones doing the ganking normally (3:1 ish balance Allience to Horde), only talking about Battle Grounds and as said by another poster speaking of the loladins that shield, run into the middle of everyone and do the AE/Tickle feet thingy. Ok use it and run away and live thats cool. But the ones that just stand there and get ready for round two are just a pain in the ass.. As for rogues DoT them so they can not vanish. Druids? Remove the class form the game tbh... no longer is everything a hunter item.... bloody druids and their many forms.

But any way besides the point look at the Paladins abilities two bubbles, run speed increase and blessing of Freedom... to steal some words for the boss "baby we where born to run"

Then again Shaman can just self rez and FROST SHOCK!

DEmeant0r

Hunters use mail, Druids use Leather, doubt Druids would be stealing Hunters' stuff tbh...

Jim

Demeant0r wrote:

Hunters use mail, Druids use Leather, doubt Druids would be stealing Hunters' stuff tbh...

Just because Hunters can use mail from 40 doesn't mean that there isn't better gear stat wise for them in leather.

Bartonprince

Lvl17 Warlock For Teh Win!!! ha ha.

I've seen some pretty powerful players. Paladins seem to be Warriors with crap heals and less damage....?

I like the armor shields they give though.
I realised that the hack and slash type play doesn't suit me. My 2 classes would be hunter and warlock.

Druid is supposed to be ok if the player is very skilled. But apparently it's near impossible to kill Warlocks with Felhunter and soulink.

Wouldn't fancy my chances against a beastmaster hunter, or a rogue with a bastard stick.

Kiith

kayos wrote:

Ok bit of background, PvE server, Allience are the ones doing the ganking normally (3:1 ish balance Allience to Horde)

horde gank alliance, and alliance gank horde equally on most servers. the fact that there are more alliance on most servers only means that theres more people ganking, not a higher ratio. its a pvp server anyway, so i'm trying to stop complaining about getting ganked...although its hard.

kayos wrote:

But the ones that just stand there and get ready for round two are just a pain in the ass..

well what are pally's supposed to do with the shield then? pretty much all other class's can out damage them, so the shield was put in for a chance to heal, and be on even terms. yes, running into a group and doing AOE is annoying, but its also a crappy AOE, so just wait for his shield to drop, and kill him.

Bartonprince wrote:

Druid is supposed to be ok if the player is very skilled

druids can be a bitch to kill when played well, but thats the same with most classes. stunlock rogues and BM hunters are a bitch as a lock though (at least for me)

Mac daddy

Bartonprince wrote:

Druid is supposed to be ok if the player is very skilled. But apparently it's near impossible to kill Warlocks with Felhunter and soulink.
.

All i have to do is sneak up behind a lock - Ambush - Sin Strike - Kick - Gouge - Rapture = dead lock

Vanish and waste your pet.

But locks are great fun to play with i have a lvl40 lock and a 53Mage - and a 36Rogue ( all Horde of Course )

Jim

120 energy ftw.

anonymous_joe

How much energy you using there Mac?

Bartonprince

Mac daddy wrote:

All i have to do is sneak up behind a lock - Ambush - Sin Strike - Kick - Gouge - Rapture = dead lock

Vanish and waste your pet.

But locks are great fun to play with i have a lvl40 lock and a 53Mage - and a 36Rogue ( all Horde of Course )

In an ideal world it sounds nice to be able to do that....
I've heard different. If you are a human lock and like to use your show invisible skill, wouldn't that negate the ambush tactic?

Dustaz

Bartonprince wrote:

In an ideal world it sounds nice to be able to do that....
I've heard different. If you are a human lock and like to use your show invisible skill, wouldn't that negate the ambush tactic?

It only negates it if theres a stealthed rogue there to see. If theres not, then its pointless. The point of stealth is that you dont know theres someone about to ambush you for 2/3 of your health. Hence perception is pretty typical of an alliance racial - highly situational and mostly useless.

Jim

Bartonprince wrote:

In an ideal world it sounds nice to be able to do that....
I've heard different. If you are a human lock and like to use your show invisible skill, wouldn't that negate the ambush tactic?

Yes, also Warlocks have Paranoia as it is.
If dueling best bet is to get right up beside the lock at the start of the duel and spam CS or Ambush. I usually go with CS as the locks demon armor is a bitch.

Kiith

perception is only good if you actually see the rogue for a split second. otherwise its pretty pointless, and it actually makes me more paranoid having it.

"oh my god...was that a lvl60 undead rogue!!"

then you'll see me randomly jumping around and looking in all directions :rolleyes:

Bartonprince

Demon skin for teh win.... Seduce? ;-D

Mac daddy

Jimeatsmenu wrote:

120 energy ftw.

quick drink of tistle tea

abccormac

Bartonprince wrote:

In an ideal world it sounds nice to be able to do that....
I've heard different. If you are a human lock and like to use your show invisible skill, wouldn't that negate the ambush tactic?

The warlock detect invisibility spell won't detect stealthed people at all, paranoia only works if you have a felhunter out, which is pretty useless against a rogue unless you have soul link, and as others have said perception is only useful if you know a rogue is around in the first place. As a warlock, I found that the new version of deathcoil made rogues fairly easy to deal with however. I just hammered my deathcoil key as soon as the rogue made his opening move to get some distance, then seduce with the succubus and start nuking. If you get it right, you won't take many hits after the initial few. For alliance WOTF makes things harder, but my warlock was horde, so I never really had that problem.

Jim

Mac daddy wrote:

quick drink of tistle tea

Aye, I use Thistle Tea in WSG. Tis ftw when attacking a flag carrier, nice burst damage.