sabbat elections

zap

so anyone ne ideas for who is going for what - it's almost Friday so we will soon know for sure?

Red Alert

the tribune says Orla Ní Threasaigh (current irish language officer), Enda Duffy and Dan Hayden with Duffy tipped to win for president.

pretty*monster

President:
Enda Duffy, (auditor of Labour Youth’s ucd branch
Dan Haydon, (current Welfare Officer)
Orla Ni Threasaig, (current Irish language officer)
Seamus O 'Maoinigh (unconfirmed sighting of him collecting nominations)

Dep.:
Dave Curran (current Dep.)
Darragh O Bradain (unconfirmed but collecting signatures)

Welfare
Lisa O Donavan (our very own)
Michelle Killeen ( Woman’s officer)
Barry Colfer (2nd bbls rep)

Ents

Dave Redmond
Brian Canny (auditor of Retro Soc)
Enda O Donoghue
Holly Irvine (3rd Arts Rep)

Education

Kate O Hanlon (what would be me,2ndArts rep)
Brian Doyle (2nd Comm. Rep)



But we shall all know for sure on monday.

Red Alert

should we get a vote-the-boardsies campaign going?

panda100

Ah pretty monster-heared good things bout you!Cool two boardies-oh truckle wont like this with his dislike of all things su

Cant believe they called me 'liberal' on the newswire.Im proud of my leftness!So all my years of going to protests in limerick and dublin and campaigning for developing world equlity goes up in smoke when you say one little comment on abortion.Once again,the ultrasound debate was about the freedom of speech of ALL groups on campus it had nothing to do with my beliefs in abortion!!!Ah this one will haunt me to my grave'Here lies panda who wanted to allow fascist sexist bigots onto campus':rolleyes: Also look at all the fuss people made over Jennifer Allen when she ran and in my opinion she has been the best welfare officer since I arrived in UCD and the lefts in office at the time got on with her well!

One thing that ive noticed about the elections so far is how much emphasis is placed on particular experience within the su.In my opinion too much experience in the SU is a bad thing.If we look at the list of candidates that pretty monster has up then i suppose Seamus O'Maonigh is the most 'experienced' in relation to the su,and he was full of empty promises for welfare when he ran.I think becoming too involved with the su leaves you cut off from what students really want and you sorta get caught up in the ucdsu hack little world.I'll be the first to say that I find su corridor very intimitating.Everyone seems to know everyone and for someone like me who is in an outlying faculty and knows no one except one guy in medicine whose involved with the union it can be a scary place.Thats one thing I liked about Dan and Dave this year,they always made you feel welcomed on union corrider when usually mostly I feel very uncomftorble there.

hullaballoo

I'm pretty sure liberal and left-wing are the same thing.

And don't get too caught up in the fact that Cogavin had a go at you, he's a fcuking cnut anyway.

I'm hoping for a Ní Threasaigh, Curran, Canny and Doyle. I'm still smarting over our last exchange pretty*monster.

humbert

where's all this bitching and labeling going on?

arbeitsscheuer

hullaballoo wrote:

I'm pretty sure liberal and left-wing are the same thing.

Yep, I'm liberal and left-wing, and proud of it.

Darren's ok, he probably just got the wrong end of the stick is all... Wouldn't let it bother ya so much panda, there's gonna be a heckuva lot more mudslinging in this campaign yet!:D

pretty*monster

hullaballoo wrote:

I'm still smarting over our last exchange pretty*monster.

Which exchange was this?

Pythia

Looks like my friend RON will be getting another set of my votes this year.
Freaking lefties!

rainbow kirby

You say lefty like it's a bad thing.

Red Alert

for the mathematically inclined among you i'm going to come up with a hack-equation which you can quickly check someone's hack value

tintinr35

why are dan and dave running for election again i mean its not like they have done an amazing amount already to warrent another paid year out, its an awful load of bollox the students union if ask me all they do is complain and never actually achieve anything!!

HappyCrackHead

i dunno about Dan, but Dave did everything he promised he'd do and then some. he's done a great job and in fairness, i would have thought Dave would go for President this time. if you ask me, hayden hasnt done enough to warrent election. now not knowing much about his opponents i cant say much about that particular heat.

the election to watch this year will be ents. i have heard reports that a whopping EIGHT candidates are gonna be running. This is the largest ever. mainly due to the success of Anthony Kelly. Basically people wanting to build on his success, UCD Balls, Rag Week and what not.

Personally this disappearence in the past of such events is disturbing and an example of what can happen if the wrong person gets elected.

Personally the Presidential race, being most important, i find most interesting to watch. Mainly because most of the candidates are... well dodgy. well they were last year anyway. Joanne, had good things to say and probably was the best of a bad bunch but there was much talk of the fact that she might have been a puppet president. What made the other two canidates Messers Carroll and Carroll so bad in my view was their wishy-washy-ness (not a real phrase i know). James is and was WAY to close to college establishment for anyone's liking. And we've seen that during his term in office that he has been less active in his opposition to questionable college policy - such as the modularisation of outstanding colleges, Arts and Law, parts of science n vet.
And paddy, though a nice guy... (i know him personally and even assisted on his campaign last year) had some questionable views on certain topics mainly coming from his religious persuasion. Now im no big fan of religion but it should stay out of any kind of political sphere. Considering the majority of UCD students do not actively practice the religion(s) they were born into.

Its the ulterior motives and personal views that must be examined by the electorate, and its the job of the student media to highlight these.

Well should be fun anyway.

Kev out

pretty*monster

Pythia wrote:

Looks like my friend RON will be getting another set of my votes this year.
Freaking lefties!

It's a complete myth that the union is over run with 'lefties'. There are people of all political persuasions involved and people of none. It's just that the left tend to be louder and more visible.

In the list I gave I count only two hard lefties, five soft/centre lefties, one right wing, two centrists and one unknown entity.

I may be a little off in my calculations here, but it's based mainly on party affiliations, lack thereof, presence at protests, voting records in council where applicable, and from knowing most of the candidates personally.
I omit ents candidates from this count cos their politics rarely come into the equation with voters.

But really, political affiliations aren’t the be all and end all. Look at the manifestos, listen to the lecture addresses, read the interviews, heck attend the hustings (there’ll be a green hustings too this year, as well as a pink one) see who's promising what and whether they're only spoofing you.

panda100

Thought id write here instead of infesting mr nice guys romantic thread any longer!Even though all my reasons for not planning to run are still valid,I went back to the library today and managed to salvage some of my signatures that Id ripped up and handed it in about an hour ago.Even though I'm from an outlying faculty and have pretty much all odds in regards to a campaign running against me,its something I want to do ,so I'm going to do it.I hope people will read our manifestos and listen to our lecture addreses and vote for us for that reason instead of just for the amount of people that we have canvassing for us.The more I thought about it yesterday, i realised i wasnt running because i'm intimitated by so many of those in the union and just union politics in general.So hopefully me running might make it more accesible to students to get intrested in union life!

What's a green and pink hustings pretty monster??

Vainglory

Pink Hustings are LGB hustings. Green Hustings I'd assume are being organised by the environmental awareness officer.

Then there are the normal L&H hustings too.

pretty*monster

panda100 wrote:

What's a green and pink hustings pretty monster??

The Green hustings will focus on environmental issues, Molly Walsh, ucdsu environmental officer is organising it. The pink hustings will focus on lgbt(q) issues, I don't know if lgbt soc, or the lgb officer are organising it... or if they're doing it jointly.
And there'll still be the normal hustings, focusing on broader student issues.

*edit*
I see I've been beaten to the punch

panda100

cool-thats a good idea to do seperate hustings,specially a green one,the lack of recycling facilities on campus are pretty dismal alright.

Scraggs

yay panda i'm delighted your running again...

irlrobins

panda100 wrote:

I went back to the library today and managed to salvage some of my signatures

Jeez woman make up your mind!

Best of luck! Looking forward to seeing the posters up!

Jonny Arson

It's always a choice between a giant douche and a turd sandwich.

arbeitsscheuer

Mmmm...

Tasty!

panda100

irlrobins wrote:

Jeez woman make up your mind!

Best of luck! Looking forward to seeing the posters up!

Please dont draw any moustaches on me!!:)

boneless

panda100 wrote:

Please dont draw any moustaches on me!!:)

Damn... that's my fun spoiled again!!

And I think you will make a great *checks notes* ''insert position'' person on the union.....

PhantomBeaker

panda100 wrote:

Please dont draw any moustaches on me!!:)

Heh, that was the entertaining bit! I remember back when Abey was running for Education, one of the papers was running a "best defacing of campaign material" competition. It was great fun!

Actually, being on his campaign team we saw even more fun ones. Basically, because Sabbat candidates have a budget, the campaign teams go out into lecture theatres at the end of the day and go out and pick up old fliers. We took the ones that were lightly defaced and they went out again the next day. The REALLY defaced ones, that showed too much artistic talent to just be thrown in the bin, went onto the campaign desk.

Generally, these days, I vote not on their policies and campaign strategies, but on how defacable someone's campaign literature is.

P.B.

VenusInFurs

hullaballoo wrote:

And don't get too caught up in the fact that Cogavin had a go at you, he's a fcuking cnut anyway.

Sorry moderators, is this type of personal abuse acceptable?

For shame, Hullaballoo *tut tut tut*

tintinr35

it is when its directed at the likes of him

panda100

VenusInFurs wrote:

Sorry moderators, is this type of personal abuse acceptable?

For shame, Hullaballoo *tut tut tut*

Have to hold back-have promised my campaign manager I am not going to be contraversial from here on in!Anywho,will promise I'll put up the funniest defaced posters of mine up here so u can see them!

VenusInFurs

tintinr35 wrote:

it is when its directed at the likes of him

Seriously tintinr35, I don't mind people criticising my political and moral convictions, so long as its substantiated, but I think hullabaloo calling me a 'fcuking cnut' is well out of order. Its foolish to think of it as anything short of an epithet, an insult, a vulgarity and a slur.

Regards,
Darren Cogavin

Vainglory

Lol.

Pythia

VenusInFurs wrote:

Seriously tintinr35, I don't mind people criticising my political and moral convictions, so long as its substantiated, but I think hullabaloo calling me a 'fcuking cnut' is well out of order. Its foolish to think of it as anything short of an epithet, an insult, a vulgarity and a slur.

Regards,
Darren Cogavin

Report post so.

panda100

Darren realx.I'm sure Hullabaloo did not mean this as a personal insult to you.He probably was just saying it to reasuure me cos I was a bit upset after the last time we spoke.So dont take it personally and welcome to Boards.....woah what an entrance!I think we have someone to rival sangre at last

daRobot

Darren Cogavin for president

scop

LOL cogavin upset over people abusing him, the irony of it all.

Pythia

daRobot wrote:

Darren Cogavin for president

Sarcasm?

tintinr35

VenusInFurs wrote:

Seriously tintinr35, I don't mind people criticising my political and moral convictions, so long as its substantiated, but I think hullabaloo calling me a 'fcuking cnut' is well out of order. Its foolish to think of it as anything short of an epithet, an insult, a vulgarity and a slur.

Regards,
Darren Cogavin

ok well here we go, i disagree with everything you stand for
you said in another thread

VenusInFurs wrote:

As a Marxist-Leninist and anti-imperialist

do u people not get it READ THE HISTORY BOOKS. this kind of sh1t DOES NOT WORK, it never has, its theoretical and it never will work.

your presence is an insult, a vulgarity and a slur. tbh

Pythia

tintinr35 wrote:

ok well here we go, i disagree with everything you stand for
you said in another thread



do u people not get it READ THE HISTORY BOOKS. this kind of sh1t DOES NOT WORK, it never has, its theoretical and it never will work.

your presence is an insult, a vulgarity and a slur. tbh

Ah, it has entertainment value!

daRobot

Pythia wrote:

Sarcasm?

Mary harney for ents

VenusInFurs

scop wrote:

LOL cogavin upset over people abusing him, the irony of it all.

Scop, do you not think I am a sensitive man capable of shedding the occasional tear at the conclusion of Titanic?

I am a product of the post-industrial and post-modern age. We didn't have mines in Co. Roscommon, where hours of gruelling intensive labour would toughen me up and make me a 'big man'. I have feelings too, you know. Behind this tough facade of the anti-hero is a little boy, yearning to be loved.......

scop

VenusInFurs wrote:

Scop, do you not think I am a sensitive man capable of shedding the occasional tear at the conclusion of Titanic?

I am a product of the post-industrial and post-modern age. We didn't have mines in Co. Roscommon, where hours of gruelling intensive labour would toughen me up and make me a 'big man'. I have feelings too, you know. Behind this tough facade of the anti-hero is a little boy, yearning to be loved.......

Good reply.

Chinafoot

VenusInFurs wrote:

Sorry moderators, is this type of personal abuse acceptable?

I do apologise, I wasn't here. (I do have a life outside of Boards.ie believe it or not ) Hullabaloo....personal abuse is bad mmkaaay.

Also, I am only going to say this once folks before the election fever well and truly takes hold.....there will be no personal abuse against any candidates tolerated. If you have a problem with the policies/views of a candidate then feel free to voice that disagreement in a mature manner.

Personal abuse will result in a banning.

panda100

Isnt it funnny how at this time of year poachers and predators can turn up in the least place you expect to hunt down endagenered species.Theres only a couple of hundred pandas left in the wild you know.......

singingstranger

VenusInFurs wrote:

I have feelings too, you know. Behind this tough facade of the anti-hero is a little boy, yearning to be loved.......

Fair play to Darren, at least he came to the SnaG Speed Dating... lol

VenusInFurs

Seriously like, I have a reputation to protect! The indignity of it all. Imagine telling your mates you met your girlfriend through speed-dating? Oh, the abuse I'd receive.....

Did you notice the Rose of Tralee giving me the eye all night? I heard she has a boyfriend, which explains why she didn't come over to say 'dia duit'. She knows that if you play with fire, you'll only get burnt. Beautiful AND intelligent.

singingstranger

It'd break your heart, wouldn't it?

Chinafoot

Back on topic thanks.

tintinr35

Students union elections bla bla bla.... all we want is a year out (paid)...protest after endless protest that never achieves anything blah blah student union politics what a load of tripe!

Had to laugh though today when I read the observer and poor "shell shocked" Dan Hayden was publicly humiliated for those stupid comments that he made during the interview with the independent, and the way he was trying to back out of it in the article in the ever so "independent" observer

Wouldn’t want any bad press when your seeking re election now would you Dan!!

beanyb

Am I the only person that doesnt have a clue who this Darren Cogavin chap is? Should I know or are you just another of those Union hacks that only people involved in the Union know anything about?

irlrobins

beanyb wrote:

Am I the only person that doesnt have a clue who this Darren Cogavin chap is?

I don't either and tbh I couldn't give a flying fuck about who's who in SU.

singingstranger

Nicked from ucdsu.net:

PRESIDENT
Duffy, Enda (2 Arts)
Hayden, Dan (Welfare Vice-President)
Ni Threasaigh, Orla (2 Commerce International)

DEPUTY PRESIDENT VICE-PRESIDENT
Curran, David (Deputy President Vice-President)

EDUCATION VICE-PRESIDENT
Doyle, Brian (2 Commerce)
O'Hanlon, Kate (2 Arts)

WELFARE VICE-PRESIDENT
Colfer, Barry (2 BBLS)
Killeen, Michelle (2 Arts)
O'Donovan Elisa (3 Medicine)

ENTERTAINMENTS VICE-PRESIDENT
Canny, Brian (3 Science)
Donohoe, Enda (Arts)
Hartshorn, James (3 Arts)
Irvine, Holly (4 Arts International)
O Duinn, Eoghan (3 Commerce)
Redmond, Dave (2 Arts)

If anyone has a clue who Hartshorn or O Duinn are, we'd all love to hear.