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Would u jump in after ur mate

  • 24-01-2006 9:16am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,610 ✭✭✭


    Was talking to a friend last night who told me her son was pulled from a river on Saturday, after jumping in to try end it all, they where both saved thank god, but her son who encountered most difficultly with the current and fire birgade had to rescue him!

    It all start when he got a phone from his 'mate' to say he was standing on the bridge and about to jump. Her son was luckily 3-4 minutes away, saw his mate jump as he got there and jumped in after him to save him.

    Know I cant swim at all, and people are saying he just should have phone for help. But thats easy to say after the fact.

    What would u have done?

    Would u have jumped to help? 71 votes

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    No, phone for help
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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 90 ✭✭RobEire


    Depends on the circumstances - sometimes immediate action is required, regardless of the risk, and jumping in to rescue someone is all you can do. Other times a phone call would suffice.

    Criticising someone for trying to save another's life is sad indeed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 224 ✭✭crazymonkey


    don't think anyone can say for sure how they would react till they find themselves in a situation like that,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,610 ✭✭✭dbnavan


    RobEire wrote:
    Depends on the circumstances - sometimes immediate action is required, regardless of the risk, and jumping in to rescue someone is all you can do. Other times a phone call would suffice.

    Criticising someone for trying to save another's life is sad indeed.

    I didnt criticise him for trying to save another's life but there where easier ways to do it, the current was strong and he wasnt a good swimmer, 1 dead body is better then 2.

    I wouldnt jump, only cause I know my limitions!!! 2 dead bodys now thats sad.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 42,362 Mod ✭✭✭✭Beruthiel


    not a PI for you OP


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,243 ✭✭✭zoro


    I'm a very strong swimmer, and a trained lifeguard, so I think I can safely say I'd jump in to help.
    Obviously, if you see someone nearby you should order them to call for help before jumping in yourself, or as a last resort, make the call yourself while removing your jacket/shoes. But those wasted seconds could be crucial in getting to your friend in time...


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,144 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    If there are other people around then I'd jump in and be expecting someone else to do the phoning, if there is no one else about then I'd make the call and then jump in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,184 ✭✭✭✭Pighead


    The question is a no brainer. Of course Pighead would jump in to save his buddy. We're talking about 25 years of thrills and spills and highs and lows and laughs and tears together. Surely thats worth something.

    Of course i wouldnt do it if we lived in Ireland as the water would probably be a bit on the cold side. But if we were living in the South of Italy and the water wasn't too deep and i had a pair of inflatable armbands then yes of course i'd jump in. Absolutely.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,563 ✭✭✭connundrum


    I'd always jump in, don't think I could live with myself if I didn't do it.. but then again like zorro I'm lifeguard trained etc so I wouldn't hold it against someone who couldn't swim for not jumping in themselves. Bad bad situation though.. :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,424 ✭✭✭joejoem


    Yes


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    I would love to say "yes, I would have had no hesitation in jumping in to save my firends life", but truth be known, I can't swim, and I probabaly would have just done a lot of screaming for help, and made a nuisance of myself by getting in the way of the actual hero!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,984 ✭✭✭✭Lump


    Well, I'd probably phone for help, and then jump in. Maybe find a life ring, and bring that too. I nearly drowned when I was a kid. Some bloke ran through about 20 feet of nettles in his shorts to get the life ring. Fair play to the bloke :)

    John


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,921 ✭✭✭✭Pigman II


    Far be it for me to stand between a friend and their goals.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,315 ✭✭✭ballooba


    I'd spot them and keep pointing at them until I could call for help or get someone else to. Then find something to put between myself and the person in trouble (if they're still concious) such as a lifering or a stick. Then I would go after them.

    I'm water safety trained but didn't ake it as far as lifeguard level.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,595 ✭✭✭johnnyrotten


    dbnavan wrote:
    Was talking to a friend last night who told me her son was pulled from a river on Saturday, after jumping in to try end it all, they where both saved thank god, but her son who encountered most difficultly with the current and fire birgade had to rescue him!

    It all start when he got a phone from his 'mate' to say he was standing on the bridge and about to jump. Her son was luckily 3-4 minutes away, saw his mate jump as he got there and jumped in after him to save him.

    Know I cant swim at all, and people are saying he just should have phone for help. But thats easy to say after the fact.

    What would u have done?


    These are the guys who were arrested by the Gardai after they were fished out!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 205 ✭✭chiller


    id definitly jump in after my mate regardless its just something u wouldnt think twice about if that person was a real mate


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,610 ✭✭✭dbnavan


    These are the guys who were arrested by the Gardai after they were fished out!


    Dunno where u got that info, untrue


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 990 ✭✭✭mickymg2003


    I cant swim but id give it a shot anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,915 ✭✭✭Siogfinsceal


    if it was a member of family, a best mate or my boyf id be in there in a flash. Im not a fantastic swimmer but I would try cos if I just stood there and called for help I would always feel guilty.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 951 ✭✭✭Eminem


    chiller wrote:
    id definitly jump in after my mate regardless its just something u wouldnt think twice about if that person was a real mate


    I have to a gree with you there . Also i would jump in after a mate if they jumped in .:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,163 ✭✭✭✭danniemcq


    i've jumped in before and i'd jump in again(they weren'yt tryin to "end it all" they just got caught in a real nasty currenbt) , but i am a fairly strong swimmer so i can take most currents and am one lesson off being a lifegaurd so i know what to expect.

    the problem with people when they jusmp in is they often don't know the strength of the water and bedore they know it they're even worse off. In that case ring 999. don't risk going in


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,549 ✭✭✭scuba steve


    ya i would, prob ring for help first then jump in


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,740 Mod ✭✭✭✭The Real B-man


    dbnavan wrote:
    Dunno where u got that info, untrue

    Just i think he thaught they would have arrested him as it is ilegal to commit suicide stupid law tbh


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,315 ✭✭✭ballooba


    In a situation like this instinct kicks in for the person who is in trouble and they will grab on to anything they can.

    I can just picture the scene. You jump in and doggie paddle over... "Dave, Dave I'm such a good mate"... "I'm here to save you"... Dave lunges for you and grabs your arm... you're not so good at doggie paddling with one arm... you both go under.

    Jumping in after someone unless you are trained may only make things worse.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 765 ✭✭✭6ix


    In reality, how would a non-swimmer expect to help the situation by jumping in? They'll just immediately find themselves in a lot of trouble. A non swimmer would have no idea how to take care of themselves, nevermind rescue another.

    I've done all the training, and as ballooba said, the first thing the 'victim' will do is try to grab the rescuer (obviously - they're frightened). Even for a strong swimmer, this would cause huge problems.

    I don't really know why one would jump in if they absolutely could not swim.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,240 ✭✭✭Endurance Man


    Ye, id go in for a good mate. A few years ago i was pulled out to see by a strong rip while i was bodyboarding, i was washed around some rocks and landed up on the other side of some cliffs :(, was horrible. When i got back to my beach i found out my best friend had paddled out after me and got washed onto the rocks, luckily it was just a few cuts.

    PS: A lot of you cant swim :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,246 ✭✭✭✭Riamfada


    It really depends who the mate is. Jumping in would probably result in death so it would have to be a very special friend and there are only three people in the world i would jump in for. But for those three people i would jump in without hesitation


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,880 ✭✭✭Raphael


    don't think anyone can say for sure how they would react till they find themselves in a situation like that,
    What he said. You really can't be sure.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,367 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    As a trained lifeguard (though my cert would be 7 years out of date) and strong swimmer I'd go in after a mate. Obviously, if there was a life-ring with rope attached I'd use that first but if it came down to it I'd have no problems diving in after someone (friend or not).

    Since so many people gave up their time to train me for the event it'd be pretty ignorant not to at least give it my best try.

    I'd echo danniemcq's sentiments though about an unqualified person trying it, without the proper training you could be throwing your life away too. Actually swimming up to someone and carrying them out is the *last* resort in life-saving and pretty much everything you saw on Baywatch was rubbish. If you can get a rope / branch / jumper or anything else to stretch to the victim without getting too close to them yourself that's what you do. Remember that one of the largest parts of the life-guarding training is learning "breaks", i.e. how to take control of the situation in the water when a drowning victim manages to get a hold of you in the water.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,440 Mod ✭✭✭✭Mr Magnolia


    I would have gone in for a friend and probably for a stranger, this would depend on water conditions unfortunately because I'm a weak swimmer, I would have also needed a life-ring or something along those lines to support the jumper.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,480 ✭✭✭projectmayhem


    considering my lack of ability in the water, i'd have probably rang


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 450 ✭✭Willymuncher


    I don't think so, I can't swim and it'd just end up the two of us dying which would cause a whole lot more grief to people around us, I'd phone for help, it'd be the only thing I could do.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,735 ✭✭✭ST*


    Stand by and watch. would be sorry I didnt bring popcorn too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,240 ✭✭✭Endurance Man


    Stand by and watch. would be sorry I didnt bring popcorn too.

    Someone hijacked your account:confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,735 ✭✭✭ST*


    Someone hijacked your account:confused:

    left out my emoticons soz

    <insert my post here> :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

    Of course I would jump in, theres no way you would stand there.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 28,128 ✭✭✭✭Mossy Monk


    cant swim so i would ring


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 738 ✭✭✭TheVan


    I'm pretty sure I'd jump in to save someone.

    It helps that I'm a pretty strong swimmer so I would be confident in my abilities. I would always make a quick phone call too though (assuming it was possible!)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,432 ✭✭✭Steve_o


    don't think anyone can say for sure how they would react till they find themselves in a situation like that,
    Agreed its hard to know!!


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,110 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    Trained as a lifeguard, but even if I wasn't I would without a shadow of an inkling of a doubt. Doesn't matter if they are a mate or a stranger either tbh.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,145 ✭✭✭DonkeyStyle \o/


    I can hardly keep myself afloat tbh... they'd be the ones trying to rescue me if I jumped in after them :rolleyes:

    I can picture it now...
    /me jumps in after shouting "I'll save you!!"
    /me flails around in the water
    /me sinks right to the bottom
    /me drowns while trying to untangle himself from an underwater shopping cart


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,689 ✭✭✭orangerooster


    In like a flash for a few people, not sure about a stranger would depend an awful lot if there was life rings,strength of water etc. But if it was a friend I wouldnt hesitate, I cant say I'm experienced in the water but I can swim, pure lunacy to even try if you cant swim though.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,240 ✭✭✭Endurance Man


    Cant believe so many of you cant swim :confused: , your missing out on a whole lota good times :v: .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,578 ✭✭✭Scraggs


    i'd jump in a heartbeat to save someone.

    Also cant believe so many people cant swim!! Ya really should consider learning, it could save your/someone elses life


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,743 ✭✭✭Rockee


    It would depend how far down the jump was!:D Within reason of course I'd jump in for a friend


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,743 ✭✭✭Rockee


    And of course Id jump in after a stranger! They've got the same bones and blood as a friend or you and I!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    I'm a strong, confident swimmer, so I'd definitely be straight into the water. Whether or not I'd make the phone call or grab a life ring is something that would only be decided in the heat of the moment. Whether I'd end up in difficulties myself is also an uncertainty.

    I'd still try though :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,473 ✭✭✭R0ot


    Me and a mate did jump in after another mate, but we've lived beside the river for years and had fallen in many times, :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,163 ✭✭✭✭danniemcq


    Rockee wrote:
    It would depend how far down the jump was!:D


    FTW!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,640 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Nice Guy


    You all should check out the first aid section on the BBC's website as it explains how to handle many situations including a drowning friend:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/health/first_aid_action/drown_html_video/q1_question.shtml

    They even have interactive tests which are fun to do:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/health/first_aid_action/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,743 ✭✭✭Rockee


    danniemcq wrote:

    Oooh, dunno...would be like hitting concrete from that height!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,163 ✭✭✭✭danniemcq


    nah it was grand, except for the concrete steps you had to clear, along with the odd boat!


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