Eircom Upgrade D Day!!!!

the gobbler

http://broadbandsupport.eircom.net/SRVS/CGI-BIN/WEBCGI.EXE/&/?St=15&E=0000000000007649704&K=4486&SXI=12&case=8778&branch=4

Damn link did'nt work,,,well then check 21/01!!

Peace

So we'll be shut down all saturday.... *grumbles*
.. saturday is a busy day on my connection.

kaizersoze

the gobbler wrote:

http://broadbandsupport.eircom.net/SRVS/CGI-BIN/WEBCGI.EXE/&/?St=15&E=0000000000007649704&K=4486&SXI=12&case=8778&branch=4

Damn link did'nt work,,,well then check 21/01!!

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2054871235

Brian017

Peace wrote:

So we'll be shut down all saturday.... *grumbles*
.. saturday is a busy day on my connection.

Saturday is a busy day for me too.

Gonzo

i think that report from eircom is the time it takes from the first exchange to be upgraded till the last one, i dont think downtime would be more than a few minutes in total.. infact last years upgrade I had no downtime at all, I went from 512k to 2mb while I was surfing boards:)

Gregor Samsa

Peace wrote:

So we'll be shut down all saturday

A possible disruption during the timeframe doesn't necessiarly mean a guaranteed disruption for the whole day. I don't recall suffering at all during the last upgrade.

kaizersoze

The announcement has changed from this:

Possible disruption to your broadband service
We will be upgrading our broadband service on Friday 20th January 2006 between 22:00 until Saturday21st January 2006 at 20:00. This work is to facilitate giving our DSL customers higher downstream and upstream bandwidths on their accounts. If you are an eircom broadband customer in one of the areas listed below, you may experience a disruption to your broadband service.

DSL traffic will be affected for approximately 20 hours
All DSL Enabled Sites Will Be Affected

To this:

We will be upgrading our broadband service between 22:00 on Friday 20th January 2006 and 18:00 on Saturday 21st January 2006.

As a broadband customer, you may experience a disruption to your broadband service during this timeframe

Maskhadov

what kind of speeds will Eircon customers be getting ?

Gonzo

just slight increases

1m/128k goes to 2m/256k
2m/128k goes to 3m/384k
3m/256k goes to 4m/384k
4m/256k goes to 5m/512k

bear in mind that when we get the 3meg it still wont be as fast as NTL's current 3meg due to overheads and NTL are going up to somewhere between 8mb and 10mb over the next 2 months apparently.

I think a lot of people will be far more delighted at the tripling of the upload speed on the current 2Mb/128Kb service. I'm looking forward to being able to upload more as i have to throttle torrent uploads at 6K right now in order to keep the connection 'snappy' for general browsing for myself and the family pc.

Peanut

Any more on the rumours about interleaving being turned off?
Lower pings and an increase in upload would be pretty awesome.

Creamy Goodness

baz8080 wrote:

I think a lot of people will be far more delighted at the tripling of the upload speed on the current 2Mb/128Kb service. I'm looking forward to being able to upload more as i have to throttle torrent uploads at 6K right now in order to keep the connection 'snappy' for general browsing for myself and the family pc.

yes as a gamer the tripling of upload is great news, in fact i would be happy with just that in this upgrade 2048/384

byte

baz8080 wrote:

I think a lot of people will be far more delighted at the tripling of the upload speed on the current 2Mb/128Kb service. I'm looking forward to being able to upload more as i have to throttle torrent uploads at 6K right now in order to keep the connection 'snappy' for general browsing for myself and the family pc.

Yes, definitely. I'd prefer an upgrade from the 128k to 512k upload than the 2mbit to 3mbit download!

Still, every little helps!

Anarchist

Gonzo wrote:

i think that report from eircom is the time it takes from the first exchange to be upgraded till the last one, i dont think downtime would be more than a few minutes in total.. infact last years upgrade I had no downtime at all, I went from 512k to 2mb while I was surfing boards:)

I lost 1 minute or something

Nyum Nyum

What's the quickest speed these Eircom lines could go to?

zuma

Probable 6m/768k or roughly 3/4's of what they should be capable of in a modern countrys comms infrastructure.

The above 6m/768k would be 85% or so effecient and actual download/uploadwould thus be a little lower.

Gonzo

so the current upgrades are appraoching the limit for eircoms network, perhaps for our next upgrade in 2007 eircom should really be rolling out adsl2+ or whatever its called, any word on eircom planning to upgrade the exchanges to that?

Dun na nGal

help pleeeeese ... tech jargon way over my head!!...want to get wireless bb for ordinary home use ... any tips ???

Redisle

Hi,
I am living in a broadband enabled exchange but I am too far from the exhange to get it.( Apparently the line is underground and comes up a steep hill) I have heard that eircom are also bringing out new modems soon which "pull" the broadband from the line enabling me to get it. This to me does not sound very healthy (ie) will it just be "pulling" the very minimum of speeds? Im just wondering does anyone else know anything about this and if its happening, when?

Dcully

I achieve anything from 40 to 60 to UK game servers on 2048/128
What sort of ping should i hope to get on 3m/384k ?

Peanut

Dcully wrote:

I achieve anything from 40 to 60 to UK game servers on 2048/128
What sort of ping should i hope to get on 3m/384k ?

Exactly the same, unless they are changing other aspects of the setup as well as up/down speed.

Creamy Goodness

you should see a drop, but not a massive one, your updates to the server will be quicker.

Gonzo

if what is said on the tread below happens then we are in for a noticeable ping drop, pings of 20-25 to jolt etc

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2054853117&page=5

CyberGhost

Like many of the other users, I more happy about upload increase than download, and I hope pings drop too

The last upgrade that happened - I did not even notice a downtime.

wonder will Esat follow with an upgrade

god's toy

All bitstream broadband will follow as they are from Eircom.

CyberGhost

hellboy99 wrote:

wonder will Esat follow with an upgrade

Did you read this topic? No, really, did you?

Sponge Bob

Eircom have not give the 21 day notice to their retail customers yet , I feel noting will happend till Feb now .....maybe even March.

They may increase some ports for existing customer but will not introduce the 'new' 1mbit package this month . The others will not inroduce anything until Eircom does.

Were they varying the packages this moth it should be announced Here today , but has not been.

Praetorian

Sponge Bob wrote:

Eircom have not give the 21 day notice to their retail customers yet , I feel noting will happend till Feb now .....maybe even March.

They may increase some ports for existing customer but will not introduce the 'new' 1mbit package this month . The others will not inroduce anything until Eircom does.

Were they varying the packages this moth it should be announced Here today , but has not been.

Netsource and EsatBT and the others knew before christmas that the upgrades were coming. Plenty of notice I think. The upgrades will definitely take place within 2 weeks. There may be some problems though just like there was last time.

Pacifico

Is this a nationwide upgrade?

Madong

Gonzo wrote:

just slight increases

1m/128k goes to 2m/256k
2m/128k goes to 3m/384k
3m/256k goes to 4m/384k
4m/256k goes to 5m/512k

bear in mind that when we get the 3meg it still wont be as fast as NTL's current 3meg due to overheads and NTL are going up to somewhere between 8mb and 10mb over the next 2 months apparently.

Guess its better than nothing ......... and plans by them for faster than 4m or DSL2 ?

Kristok

Madong wrote:

Guess its better than nothing ......... and plans by them for faster than 4m or DSL2 ?

give them a chance to finish their current upgrade before asking for another one.

cgarvey

Sponge Bob wrote:

Eircom have not give the 21 day notice to their retail customers yet

Do they have to? Price/terms remain the same, so do they have to provide notice that there will be a free upgrade?

.cg

CyberGhost

CyberGhost wrote:

Did you read this topic? No, really, did you?

yes i did, why you ask

mang87

My service went down for 30 minutes yesterday night at like 12. There was a notice that the service in my area would go down, I was hoping when it came back up I'd be upgraded : ( but no luck.

Obo

According to the Netsource service status page, there will be some exchanges that won't be able to get the upgrade.

http://www.netsource.ie/html/servicestatus.html

Business Broadband Speed Change Weekend of 20th January 2006

Over the weekend an increase in speed will be implemented for customers using the services detailed in Table 1. The increase will be implemented on all Exchanges except those listed in Table 2. The increase will be completed between 22:00 Hrs on Friday 20th January and 18:00 Hrs on Sunday 22nd January. It will occur on an exchange-by-exchange basis. If you do experience a break in session during this period you should be able to reconnect after 2 minutes.

Table 2



Exchange --- Numbers which will not experience speed increase

Ballymoneen --- 091-510, 091-515

Blessington --- 045-851, 045-857, 045-858, 045-865, 045-900

Clonakilty --- 023-21, 023-30, 023-32 to 023-37, 023-60 to 023-63

Donegal --- 074-9721 to 074-9725, 074-9740, 074-9751

Edenderry --- 046-9731 to 046-9733, 046-9738, 046-9772, 046-9776

kaizersoze

Obo wrote:

According to the Netsource service status page, there will be some exchanges that won't be able to get the upgrade.

http://www.netsource.ie/html/servicestatus.html

Thats wierd. Surely it should be all or none.
I wonder whats preventing the unlucky few from getting the upgrade?

Giblet

I'm in table 2! WHAT THE HELL! That's just netsource right? RIGHT?! And my lines are fantastic, I live right beside the exchange! They'd better pray they sort it out.

Hmm is that just Business packages?!

CyberGhost

hellboy99 wrote:

yes i did, why you ask

Just wanted to know

kaizersoze

Giblet wrote:

I'm in table 2! WHAT THE HELL! That's just netsource right? RIGHT?! And my lines are fantastic, I live right beside the exchange! They'd better pray they sort it out.

Hmm is that just Business packages?!

Netsource just resell Eircom so it'll be all BB customers connected to those exchanges with all bitstream providers.
It's all packages I'd say.:(

Esat customers getting the upgrade too but will have to wait a month, i thought it would happen the same time as Eircom customers seeing as Esat BB runs on an Eircom line

Ernie Ball

hellboy99 wrote:

Esat customers getting the upgrade too but will have to wait a month, i thought it would happen the same time as Eircom customers seeing as Esat BB runs on an Eircom line

Where'd you get that information?

Ernie Ball

Ernie Ball wrote:

Where'd you get that information?

i managed to get through to Esat customer support this morning and asked them, also Kaizersoze posted up a reply he got from them too here :

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2054876392

The Ritz

Just spoke to a guy on utvinternet cs, they're usually up to speed (no pun intended...) but while he was aware that Eircom were upgrading the speeds, he couldn't say whether this would affect utvinternet customers as well - i.e. whether the speed upgrade would be automatic. He referred a couple of times to them (ie utvinternet) making an announcement next week, but I think he was referring to new packages..... can't be sure tbh, the guy seemed to be in the dark.

Can anyone say with authority whether the caps are going to be increased ? - apologies of this has been covered already elsewhere....


I was under the impression that the speed upgrade would affect all lines in an exchange, and as utvinternet re-sell Eircom access, we'd just get the upgrade automatically..... correct me if i'm wrong guys.........


The Ritzzzz.

Calibos

The Ritz wrote:

Just spoke to a guy on utvinternet cs, they're usually up to speed (no pun intended...) but while he was aware that Eircom were upgrading the speeds, he couldn't say whether this would affect utvinternet customers as well - i.e. whether the speed upgrade would be automatic. He referred a couple of times to them (ie utvinternet) making an announcement next week, but I think he was referring to new packages..... can't be sure tbh, the guy seemed to be in the dark.

Can anyone say with authority whether the caps are going to be increased ? - apologies of this has been covered already elsewhere....


I was under the impression that the speed upgrade would affect all lines in an exchange, and as utvinternet re-sell Eircom access, we'd just get the upgrade automatically..... correct me if i'm wrong guys.........


The Ritzzzz.

Thats correct afaik Sean. While I expect we will all get the new speeds come friday or saturday we won't see any cap increases till Eircom officially announce their cap increases along with the new packages in Feb/March, assuming of course that the rumours of Eircom cap increases are true. So if Eircom up their caps then I am sure UTV will too but if those were just rumours and eircoms caps remain unchanged then UTV will sit on their arse and leave theirs alone too. Basically while we know UTV chose not to be a market leader anymore and gave BT the lead in best bitstream products with the higher caps, I simply can't imagine them letting Eircom have a better product too with higher caps. IOW,Only way I see utv caps increasing to more appropriate levels for our new bandwidth is if Eircom do it first.

rymus

...and if you agree to a new 12 month contract

The Ritz

Keith,


Kewl..... that adds up with what the utv cs guy was saying about packages...

Rymus,

Yes indeedy............. a pal is trying out Smart.......... I am watching with great interest. Also NTL is an optioin - but I am uneasy at the potential disruption of changing provider........./ likes his internet access, he does... strokes modem fondly.....



S.

CyberGhost

2 days to go gents

BigCon

Just onto BT's live help there now.
I'd say we'll get the increase straight away once Eircom upgrade, reading between the lines anyhow:

How may I help you BigCon?
BigCon: Eircom are increasing their speeds on the 21st. Are BT doing likewise?
Graham A: There will be a speed increase soon but I cannot give any details on this at present.
BigCon: Why not?
Graham A: The exact details on this have not been confirmed BigCon.
BigCon: Oh, fair enough. As BT are using Eircom's lines I thought that the upgrade would automatically follow through to BT's customers once Eircom increased the speeds?
Graham A: This will most likely be the case but the full details on this have not been clarified so I cannot confirm this.
BigCon: Ok, thanks for your help!!!
Graham A: Thanks for contacting BT Ireland live sales support. If you have any further questions, please come back and chat with us, we'll be happy to help. Have a nice day.

Kur4mA

Wahey! I'm looking forward to the new speeds. Feel bad for the guys in table 2 tho...:(

http://www.netsource.ie/html/servicestatus.html

rymus

yeah sucks to be them... (says he hoping his line will take the new speed)