Banned from Lost????????

C_Breeze

Hi, i was asking in the lost forum when the new wpisode is being released and where i could get it.
somebody replied 'bye' and i got a PERMANENT BAN ????????
-quoting something about illegal downloads from the charter.

I didnt even mention anything about downloads or even imply abnything illegal, there could have been many legitimate responses to my question!
this seems illogical, permanent ban is a bit harsh isnt it ?

monkeyfudge

How were you planning on getting the episode then?

WizZard

The new series 2 is not launched in Ireland yet therefore talk about locating such an episode is banned according to the charter.

You didn't read the charter first, did you?

fade2black

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say in a shop?...

meditraitor

fade2black wrote:

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say in a shop?...

Or the Sunday Market in balbriggan(were I got mine Ep 1-3 series 2)

grimloch

What was your post before you edited it about?

C_Breeze wrote:

excuse me , but i didnt say anything about downloads or even imply anything illegal .

I asked where could i get it > to which there are a number of responses. ie "you could get your cousins in the USA to send you a tape"

Another forum might be a bit lighter on this but did you even glance at the charter?

C_Breeze

monkeyfudge wrote:

How were you planning on getting the episode then?

maybe from my cousins in america? - that doesnt suggest downloads.
maybe a response could have been , you can not get in in ireland yet or youll have to wait for season 2 to air on RTE.

ive a question for you then , since everyone seems to be jumping on the making assumptions band wagon - How does eveyone else on that forum get their episodes since they always discuus the USA episodes right after their airing?

-it could be assumed that everybody that discusses US episodes is illegaly downloading and should be permantntly banned!! -see my point??
IT was just assumed i was talking about illegal downloads - i didnt even say anything remotley to do with illegal activities.

C_Breeze

WizZard wrote:

The new series 2 is not launched in Ireland yet therefore talk about locating such an episode is banned according to the charter.

You didn't read the charter first, did you?

But its alright to talk about the episodes after everonne seems to magically get the latest episode by the lost pixie fairies , yeah?

Orion

WizZard wrote:

The new series 2 is not launched in Ireland yet therefore talk about locating such an episode is banned according to the charter.

You didn't read the charter first, did you?

No offense Wizzard but talking about US broadcasts is not just allowed but encouraged (as long as [US] is put in front of the thread title to avoid spoilers). Talking about downloading/where to download is not allowed.

[edit]For some reason I didn't see the word 'locating' in your post So I'm just repeating what you just said [/edit]

tbh I think that C_Breeze was banned for this choice of language. Asking when it's released implies released for download. If he'd edited his post as suggested to say "when is it being broadcast in the US" then it might have slipped by.

Zombrex

C_Breeze wrote:

Hi, i was asking in the lost forum when the new wpisode is being released and where i could get it.

Do you really expect people to believe that you were asking a question expecting answers such as "your friend in the states could send you the tape", or "fly over to the States and watch a re-run" ..

Sorry, but it seems pretty clear that you were asking where it was possible illegally obtain a specific episode of the program. That is a banning. Trying to get out on a technicallity is a bit lame. This isn't a court room

C_Breeze

Macros42 wrote:

No offense Wizzard but talking about US broadcasts is not just allowed but encouraged (as long as [US] is put in front of the thread title to avoid spoilers). Talking about downloading/where to download is not allowed.

[edit]For some reason I didn't see the word 'locating' in your post So I'm just repeating what you just said [/edit]

tbh I think that C_Breeze was banned for this choice of language. Asking when it's released implies released for download. If he'd edited his post as suggested to say "when is it being broadcast in the US" then it might have slipped by.

Bingo , that was the main question of my post - when its being aired in the USA , because i heard that they had a break over xmas or something.


i would have taken a 1 week ban on the Chin - but PERMANENT??? - seems a bit harsh to me , considering eveyone one that board is nothing but a hypocrite

MrJoeSoap

C_Breeze wrote:

maybe from my cousins in america? - that doesnt suggest downloads.

Why would you ask where to get the episodes if you got them off your cousins in America?

ive a question for you then , since everyone seems to be jumping on the making assumptions band wagon - How does eveyone else on that forum get their episodes since they always discuus the USA episodes right after their airing?

Maybe they live in America?

cat in a hat

Iv seen up to episode 9 of lost on the second season and ep 10 is being aired in the US on the 11th of january but if you really wana watch the episodes out at the moment and have broadband go to www.watchlost.com and if you think lost is good wait till you see prison break it will be the program everyone will talk bout in 2006

fade2black

Haha...Kaboom!

Zombrex

C_Breeze wrote:

But its alright to talk about the episodes after everonne seems to magically get the latest episode by the lost pixie fairies , yeah?

What people do in the privacy of their own home is fine.

But Boards.ie is a public web forum, and as such is open to all the legal might of any company or organisation who believes that Boards.ie is promoting or encouraging the illegal downloading of copy-righted material. As such discussion where to obtain said copyrighted material is specifically prohibited.

For a very good reason, someone like ABC crush Boards.ie in a heart beat.

C_Breeze

cat in a hat wrote:

Iv seen up to episode 9 of lost on the second season and ep 10 is being aired in the US on the 11th of january but if you really wana watch the episodes out at the moment and have broadband go to www.watchlost.com and if you think lost is good wait till you see prison break it will be the program everyone will talk bout in 2006

now there is a good response! see nothing illegal about it!
that could have been a perfect reply to my question instead of theorwing around accusations annd permanent bans like there was no 2moro.

seamus

Lost Season 2 isn't available to buy on DVD/Video yet. Thus, asking where to get it or any of the episodes, is asking where to illegally obtain them.

How steveland handles it is his perogative, but essentially asking the question and receiving replies could leave boards in trouble.

C_Breeze

Wicknight wrote:

What people do in the privacy of their own home is fine.

But Boards.ie is a public web forum, and as such is open to all the legal might of any company or organisation who believes that Boards.ie is promoting or encouraging the illegal downloading of copy-righted material. As such discussion where to obtain said copyrighted material is specifically prohibited.

For a very good reason, someone like ABC crush Boards.ie in a heart beat.

so hoe could that Big organisation prove i was implying illegalk downloads??
would it not have been easier for this ficticious company to question the people discussing the latest episodes as to where they got them?

Cactus Col

I do think it's a bit on the unfair side to get a permanent ban. There has been plenty of threads containing more obvious talk about downloading episodes, or problems in doing so.

comments such as :"Problems with my cousin yesterday means I am now using a private number to call. Still pretty slow though. Does anyone ever get speeds from their cousin that would match speeds getting anything non-cousin like?"

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=312039&page=4&highlight=cousin

and as far as I could see this didn't result in a ban for the user.

C_Breeze

Cactus Col wrote:

I do think it's a bit on the unfair side to get a permanent ban. There has been plenty of threads containing more obvious talk about downloading episodes, or problems in doing so.

comments such as :"Problems with my cousin yesterday means I am now using a private number to call. Still pretty slow though. Does anyone ever get speeds from their cousin that would match speeds getting anything non-cousin like?"

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=312039&page=4&highlight=cousin

and as far as I could see this didn't result in a ban for the user.

Thank you!!
you see now that is clearly suggesting illegal dowloads , and quite brazingly too.
just because i asked where to get them and they are not availabile to buy here yet - the just ASSUMED i was talking about downloads!
if youre going to ban somebody have some real ground on that basis , not just a vague assumption!

Gordon

C_Breeze wrote:

maybe from my cousins in america? - that doesnt suggest downloads.

That does actually, you are completely wrong.

grimloch

steveland? wrote:

ZERO TOLERANCE on asking for DOWNLOADS or FILE TITLES - You Have been warned...
Title says it all basically...

From now on ANYONE asking for a link to episode downloads is receiving a permenant ban

Seems like C_Breeze is pi$sing down peoples backs and telling them it's raining.

seamus

C_Breeze wrote:

so hoe could that Big organisation prove i was implying illegalk downloads??

As I said above, since they're not publically available (except on the air), then asking where to get them is close enough to asking how to obtain them illegally.

would it not have been easier for this ficticious company to question the people discussing the latest episodes as to where they got them?

Except that it's not illegal to discuss the content of the episodes, and the company would only have some degree of legal standpoint if the episodes hadn't already been aired.
The company can however sue boards.ie for making information available about where to obtain copyrighted content illegally.

Zombrex

C_Breeze wrote:

so hoe could that Big organisation prove i was implying illegalk downloads??

No offense C_Breeze, but I think it is pretty obvious to the blind cat down the road that got hit with a truck over christmas that you were asking for illegal copy from Bit Torrrent or such. Any other alternative doesn't make any sense, despite the rather ridiculous "replies" you believe were possible

Besides, they don't have to "prove" it.

An legal challage against Boards.ie stating that the website is facilitating the illegal distribution of copyrighted material by allowing discussion of where to obtain said material, would bankrupt the website in under a month.

This website wasn't set up to fight your legal battles.

C_Breeze

Gordon wrote:

That does actually, you are completely wrong.

then how come evrybody else talks about their cousins in america sending them tapes??????

and also cousins with a speed of __megabytes???

see post nr19 please

C_Breeze

Wicknight wrote:

No offense C_Breeze, but I think it is pretty obvious to the blind cat down the road that got hit with a truck over christmas that you were asking for illegal copy from Bit Torrrent or such. Any other alternative doesn't make any sense, despite the rather ridiculous "replies" you believe were possible

Besides, they don't have to "prove" it.

An legal challage against Boards.ie stating that the website is facilitating the illegal distribution of copyrighted material by allowing discussion of where to obtain said material, would bankrupt the website in under a month.

This website wasn't set up to fight your legal battles.

oh please , i dont even know how to use them torent things - im deadly serious

Skitbra

A bit of power going to people's heads here is the problem c_breeze. Definitely unfair banning. Maybe a week's ban, but at the absolute max.

C_Breeze

Cactus Col wrote:

I do think it's a bit on the unfair side to get a permanent ban. There has been plenty of threads containing more obvious talk about downloading episodes, or problems in doing so.

comments such as :"Problems with my cousin yesterday means I am now using a private number to call. Still pretty slow though. Does anyone ever get speeds from their cousin that would match speeds getting anything non-cousin like?"

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=312039&page=4&highlight=cousin

and as far as I could see this didn't result in a ban for the user.

Well in that case i demand all these people from Cactus Col's link be permanently banned also , or else im suing for unfair banning and inequality

C_Breeze

Skitbra wrote:

A bit of power going to people's heads here is the problem c_breeze. Definitely unfair banning. Maybe a week's ban, but at the absolute max.

nice to see some one on my side.
thats what i said . 1 week i would have taken it on the chin but permanent? -for something that cant even be proven??

come on now , seriously.

Cactus Col

"ever heard of the internet? get yer cousin to sned them to you"

thought I'd drop in another quote from a different thread in the lost section ......
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=306604&highlight=cousin

cat in a hat

the site i suggested is well known about you stream the video from the site and it is legal once the site is no profitable and is private then streaming shows already shown on tv is legal under us law

*Oul_Doll_Cork*

Yep, I think it was harsh to be honest!!! You could have meant anything by it and who ever banned you in my opinion really jumped the gun! Maybe he/she could have said "I hope your not asking about downloads because you know that is against the rules and will result in a permanent ban"...

... I don't know maybe the mod just had a bad day!!!!! :rolleyes:

C_Breeze

Well , is there anyway to unban me or just for 1 wekk because i seriously enjoy the Lost forum and am now aware of how sensitive mods are ?? or is Boards.ie under Communist Regimé??

even just not haveing to Log out , just so i can have a read at least

Hobbes

You weren't banned. You just didn't post every 108 minutes.

qz

*Oul_Doll_Cork* wrote:

Yep, I think it was harsh to be honest!!! You could have meant anything by it and who ever banned you in my opinion really jumped the gun! Maybe he/she could have said "I hope your not asking about downloads because you know that is against the rules and will result in a permanent ban"...

... I don't know maybe the mod just had a bad day!!!!! :rolleyes:

Why should he have to say this? The OP was blatantly asking about illegal downloads. Steveland? did what he thought was best by banning C_Breeze.
And I think the mod knows what is and isn't acceptable on these forums, and knows how to deal with such posts.

Gordon

C_Breeze wrote:

then how come evrybody else talks about their cousins in america sending them tapes??????

and also cousins with a speed of __megabytes???

see post nr19 please

If this is the case then it needs to be looked into as it is most likely against the charter.

So you admit you were looking for torrents?

Stark

There was the possiblity of being provided with a link to Season 2.1 DVDs. They haven't been released for Lost yet but they have been released for Battlestar Galactica.

C_Breeze

qz wrote:

Why should he have to say this? The OP was blatantly asking about illegal downloads. Steveland? did what he thought was best by banning C_Breeze.
And I think the mod knows what is and isn't acceptable on these forums, and knows how to deal with such posts.

define "blatantly" ????
didnt you see the link of the other blatanly asking waht speed the get from their "cousins" in america - now thats blatant imho.

I wasnt blatantly asking for downloads , how can you prove this ?? was suggests i was???


........oh wait youre that usless chick that responded with "ban" and nothing else , am i right?

C_Breeze

Gordon wrote:

If this is the case then it needs to be looked into as it is most likely against the charter.

So you admit you were looking for torrents?

as i said , i dont even how wat or how to use troents , seriously.

C_Breeze

Gordon wrote:

If this is the case then it needs to be looked into as it is most likely against the charter.

So you admit you were looking for torrents?

And ok then , can somebody look in to this and ban all those people permanently also , or unban me !!
Seriously , to be fair i request some Mod to look into it and give me an update, or that is the most unfair of ban of them all

seamus

So you admit that the ban was just (within the charter), but you don't accept the punishment?

C_Breeze

seamus wrote:

So you admit that the ban was just (within the charter), but you don't accept the punishment?

what are you on about?

edit: [sarcasm] yes , i admit it was just , thats why i created this topic and said is was unfair about a million times [/sarcasm]

Skitbra

Don't mind him. The mods like to stick together.

Stark

I think it would be fair to reduce the ban to a week, provided C_Breeze has learnt his lesson and all that.

The basic rule is, the mods don't care if you find out yourself where to get episodes once you don't talk about the actual act of obtaining them on the boards. The point of it is they want to attract people to the TV forums to discuss TV shows, not to attract warez monkeys.

grimloch

Once again, the first port of call should have been to PM the mod.

If C-Breeze is let off what happens to the next or to those who have already been banned?

Orion

Hobbes wrote:

You weren't banned. You just didn't post every 108 minutes.

ROFL

(but ROFL only if I've seen Series 2 which I couldn't possibly have :eek: )

Skitbra

Permenant Ban

SoundWave

to many ban happy mods imo.... no way that should have given him perm ban....

seamus

C_Breeze wrote:

what are you on about?

edit: [sarcasm] yes , i admit it was just , thats why i created this topic and said is was unfair about a million times [/sarcasm]

I said that because of this:

1 week i would have taken it on the chin but permanent?

PM steveland to discuss it tbh. That's what you should have done originally. Nobody here can/will help you until you've discussed the ban with steveland.

C_Breeze

cool cool ,
so i have learned my lesson, i guess. and ill completley avoid the word "down" altogether just to be safe!;)

ill see what steveland has to say about this , as i contacted him already . ( ill give him the link to this too)

Gordon

C_Breeze wrote:

or is Boards.ie under Communist Regimé??

even just not haveing to Log out , just so i can have a read at least

Sublime dictatorship actually.

OK, if all you want is to be able to read the lost forum - here you go:
http://iwillnotuseboardsforillegalpurposes.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=559