Slow Download Speeds with Bitcomet?

hantakage

I'm downloading a torrent from BitComet with a Seed/Peer[All] of 31/40[33/2429] and getting Down/Upload of 6/2 Kbps

Any ideas why it is that slow. I'm using Eircom Broadband through the Eircom Provided Wireless Router (Netopia 3347-NWG).

Connection is a bit slow overall actually.

Malafus

Have you pinholed your router?

Other than that, I can't think of anything in particular.... I take it you are limiting your uploads - anything above 4KBps trashes my download speed.

If your connection feels slow, then try testing it www.irishisptest.com
Make sure nothing else is up/downloading at the same time, obviously.

J2DaC

Yeah you definately have to open some ports. go to 192.168.1.254 and go into configure NAT. And follow that road. Did the trick for me.

ricey

Like it could be a lot of diff things its not bitcomet that is the problem
are you downloading from a public torrent site/tracker?

Guru Maith Agut

Hi. Don't mean to hijack the thread but I'm having same problem and have searched for this solution on Google but to no avail. The problem becomes clear when you check your "peers" Initiation column.. They are supposed to be varied i.e. Local and Remote. How4ever all mine are coming up as local and this is apparently why I am getting such a low download rate (3/4kbs). Can anyone enlighten us or point us to a decent walkthrough wiht the "actual" modem in question (3347NWG)...?? Pwetty pwease

kaizersoze

Guru Maith Agut wrote:

Hi. Don't mean to hijack the thread but I'm having same problem and have searched for this solution on Google but to no avail. The problem becomes clear when you check your "peers" Initiation column.. They are supposed to be varied i.e. Local and Remote. How4ever all mine are coming up as local and this is apparently why I am getting such a low download rate (3/4kbs). Can anyone enlighten us or point us to a decent walkthrough wiht the "actual" modem in question (3347NWG)...?? Pwetty pwease

Here: http://www.portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/Netopia/Cayman3346/BitComet.htm
Slightly different router model (3346) but basically the same configuration.

Guru Maith Agut

kaizersoze wrote:

Here: http://www.portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/Netopia/Cayman3346/BitComet.htm
Slightly different router model (3346) but basically the same configuration.

Cheers! I'll give it a look now..

Guru Maith Agut

Guru Maith Agut wrote:

Cheers! I'll give it a look now..

Boo hoo.. Didn't work! Did all I should accoprding to that guide and I still have only 5/6 kbs of download. Have limited my uploads to 4kbs too just in case but to no avail. Also have turned off UPnP on both BitComet and my Router.. Any other suggestions??

Tony H

try turning the firewall on the router of for a while and see if that makes a difference

Guru Maith Agut

fitzdragon wrote:

try turning the firewall on the router of for a while and see if that makes a difference

I don't see a firewall option on the router interface... Would it defo have one?


DOH!! Sorry found it.. I'll give that a try cheers.

Tony H

yeah go to basic mode and you will see it there

CiaranC

Public trackers are getting slower and slower all the time, as they are filled only with leechers and the savvy users have all moved to private/ratio trackers.

Guru Maith Agut

fitzdragon wrote:

try turning the firewall on the router of for a while and see if that makes a difference

Aye she's climbing steadily now Fitz. Just peaked at 35kbs but fluctuating still but I reckon thats down to the amount of peers. Is there no way around the Firewall other than turning it off though...? Not the most secure considering I'll be leaving it for a long time while the download completes..

Guru Maith Agut

CiaranC wrote:

Public trackers are getting slower and slower all the time, as they are filled only with leechers and the savvy users have all moved to private/ratio trackers.

As in...? Subscription...?

Drapper

Public Torrents are dying! Look at the amount of people with 100% and no sharing?

SICK

Tony H

are you getting remote connections now? i dont use the firewall on the router i use zone alarm and have had no problems so far , try it on different settings and see what effect it has on your remote connections , as you said i would never use any net connection without a firewall of some sort

Guru Maith Agut

Yeah getting more Remotes now than Locals. Can I not add exceptions to the routers firewall like I can do in XP?

CiaranC

As in...? Subscription...?

As in private trackers where you need an account. People who dont maintain a a good UL/DL ratio are booted off. I can max my 3Mb connection on these, Im lucky to get 25KB/s off the likes of the bigger public ones.

Tony H

i dont know to be honest i think you can have the firewall at low or medium and you will still get remote connections but as soon as you set it on high they seem to disapear

Drapper

CiaranC wrote:

As in private trackers where you need an account. People who dont maintain a a good UL/DL ratio are booted off. I can max my 3Mb connection on these, Im lucky to get 25KB/s off the likes of the bigger public ones.

me too

Airblazer

your upload determines your download speed for bittorrent files...hence if you're using eircom who only have 128kb upload it will severely limit your download speed..a good choice is metro who has a basic 3mb/512kb upload which is what I'm on...a mate of mine is on IBB with a 2mb/2mb upload and his downloads are faster than mine due to the difference in upload speed...a lot of file shares now actively check their leechers to see if they're uploading..if not they'll throttle their speeds even lower or cut them off which is rightly so..you shouldn't expect to download files off other users and not return the favour to others..

Guru Maith Agut

Thanks for the help guys (fitzdragon & Drapper) and sorry for jumping the thread!

Guru Maith Agut

Airblazer wrote:

you shouldn't expect to download files off other users and not return the favour to others..

Understood, but if you're just starting the process for the first time then you have nothing to upload so why are there uploads in that case? What's being uploaded? Excuse my ignorance

Drapper

also, have you changed the Bittorent listening ports? Some ISPs throttle port 6881 (standard for torrents)

try another in the settings like 7001 or 7002 ect...........

zuma

Torrents in general are getting slower I think!!

I part of a pretty good private tracker...and have a very healthy 5.8 ratio...but Im currently downloading at 10kBytes from that site...annoying!!!!
Multiple downloads would certainly increase the speed...but I never think that far into the future!

Guru Maith Agut

Drapper wrote:

also, have you changed the Bittorent listening ports? Some ISPs throttle port 6881 (standard for torrents)

try another in the settings like 7001 or 7002 ect...........

Ah yeah I'm well up into the 12Ks somewhere. It lets you change the Listen Ports but gives up random numbers up to about 28K or thereabouts.

Drapper

zuma wrote:

Torrents in general are getting slower I think!!

too many greedy leechers !

Tony H

12242 is a good port for bitcomet

slave1

on a 128k upload speed and I restrict my uploads to 5k, using bitcomet, have done the NAT thing and on a recent download was hitting 99k average for 15 minutes taking the file down

CiaranC

on a 128k upload speed and I restrict my uploads to 5k, using bitcomet, have done the NAT thing and on a recent download was hitting 99k average for 15 minutes taking the file down

This, friends, is why the public trackers are dying.

slave1

CiaranC,
Through years of p2p, anything more than 5k choked my downloads and left my surfing impossible.
With unlimited upload package with Eircom I left all my downloads available until I hit 1:1, that gave around 150gig up last year, pc basically left on all year.
Now with BTBB+ and the best I can manage is 1:0.6 ratio, would love to contibute more but with current upload speed and traffic allowance, can't afford any better
Do take your point but Irish limits aint helping the global cause, when they go up - fingers crossed later in the month along with speed upgrade - then hopefully we can all give as much as we take.
An honest 1:0.6 is better than folk who manipulate their ratios on their client.
ps elitetorrent + sw revenge of the sith + FBI did scare the sh1t out of me, and that was an amazing private

Giblet

CiaranC wrote:

This, friends, is why the public trackers are dying.

Nope, the reason is people jump off straight away. 5k is what I upload at although I do have a 24meg pipe somewhere

Also everyone gunning for 1:1 can actually make it HARD to upload on the larger private sites.

zuma

At home I limit the connection to 7KByte/s or 8KByte/s.

At college I limit to 500KByte/s...as those comps are not the best.
I have seen the upload climb to 800KByte/s on occasion but Bitcomet would end up crashing...hahaha!!!
Hence my close to 6:1 ratio

Giblet

Ah, you run on a local machine?

I have ssh access to a box

Most I have seen is 2mb/s

ricey

Look even if your ports are closed you should still be getting
better speeds the that. Im 100% sure it just because its a public
bittorrent website like torrentspy and you have your upload capped.
My advice try find a good private torrent site (most need a invite) and
i would bet you the speeds would max out your connection ports open
or not.

Robbo

As a complete aside, it appears that BitComet is becoming a client non grata these days.

PiE

These types of threads could easily be avoided with a sticky. They seem to pop up every week.

Airblazer

Guru Maith Agut wrote:

Understood, but if you're just starting the process for the first time then you have nothing to upload so why are there uploads in that case? What's being uploaded? Excuse my ignorance

here's how it works (basic overview)
torrent files are uploaded by someone as probably one file (not always) this is known as the seeder..the downloaders are the leechers
so when leechers are downloading they are each downloading at different rates and speeds...what torrent clients do is connect to the other leechers as well as the seeders in order to pull down different parts of the file from all these users...so someone who is at 10% download will also be downloading from someone who is 70% download as they will have more of the file parts..all of these parts when completed are joined to give you the end file...
so basically as soon as you start downloading more likely than not there will be another person downloading after you who is behind you and thus their bittorent client will connect to your machine to pull down what you have downloaded..do u understand?all very confusing at first

ricey

Ya thats how bittorrent works but the lads problem is the speeds he
is getting form the torrent. If anyone is having problems finding a good torrent site just let me know pm or email me il sort ya out.

ricey

Also try this website http://www.bittorrentguide.co.uk/
And this http://thepeergroup.net

But my advice is get a good FTP Topsite he he but thats another story.

bishopLEN

I use Azureus for my torrent downloads, I have tried uTorrent, Bitcommet, BitlLord, The original BT Client and ABC.

From all of them I think Azureus is the best for me.

The 3347 NWG has uPnP port mapping, when I use Azureus it maps the ports automatically.

I also have the Auto Speed plug-in installed, it dynamically adjusts the max upload and if you like the max download speeds.

I have 2 Meg/128 K up i use between 4 and 7k max upload speed.

Another thing really great with Azureus is, it uses a great DHT (Distributed Tracker). If you are downloading a torrent and even if it uses a private tracker chances are that Azureus will pick the torrent up on the distributed tracker and after a few minutes you'll have a nice healthy torrent.

I can do a few walkthroughs if a few people want them. I can put things into plain english.

One thing I really like the DHT for is to send files to my friends, you can host a torrent yourself on the DHT with Azureus

BopNiblets

Azureus isn't the only one with DHT and UPNp port mapping! :rolleyes:

The new build (1.4, 402) of µTorrent got the RSS reader working, it's awesome for lazy people like me.

I never lower my upload rate lower than 7Kb/s I'll up it once BT upgrade their service, SOON!

wheresmybeaver

I tried Azureus for a while and whilst I was impressed, I could never get port forwarding to work. Even with Windows Firewall completely turned off (just for a while, to test it), I could never get UPnP to open the ports automatically (my router shows up as a UPnP device in My Network Places, so the router doesn't seem to be the problem...) Bitcomet seemed to work with port forwarding for a while but even thats broken now (according to the logs anyway). Its kinda pissing me off. According to various external security websites, no connections can be made to my computer because all the ports appear closed....

Ah sure anyway the DHT network usually gets me enough seeds! & Bitcomet is even better for "infiltrating" private trackers.. As long as it gets me my scrubs I don't mind ;-)

Dave

bishopLEN

wheresmybeaver wrote:

I tried Azureus for a while and whilst I was impressed, I could never get port forwarding to work. Even with Windows Firewall completely turned off (just for a while, to test it), I could never get UPnP to open the ports automatically (my router shows up as a UPnP device in My Network Places, so the router doesn't seem to be the problem...) Bitcomet seemed to work with port forwarding for a while but even thats broken now (according to the logs anyway). Dave

There can be other problems, one is with third party firewalls. Now I presume you don't have one as you mention the windows one.
I had Zone Alarm, it is a know incompatible program so I switched to Syagte Personal Firewall and it's grand.
Most problems can be firewall related anyhow, I've come across PCs where the user uninstalled a firewall for another but the old firewall never unregistered it's service so some programs just couldn't get access to the net.

ricey

Ah sure anyway the DHT network usually gets me enough seeds! & Bitcomet is even better for "infiltrating" private trackers.. As long as it gets me my scrubs I don't mind ;-)

Not anymore! And it sounds so sad, like why wait for a seed on the DHT
network???? Are you such n00bs that you cant get axx to files other
ways.

wheresmybeaver

ricey wrote:

Are you such n00bs that you cant get axx to files other
ways.

Yes on weekends I rob Xtravisions

Some of us are happy out with what we've got! The setup I have at the moment allows me to watch family guy, american dad, southpark, scrubs, the office and all the rest within 24 hours of it bein on american tv... thats bloody marvellous as far as I'm concerned!

please please please please please don't use "n00b".... it leads me to believe you are 16 and very angtsy ;-)

And bishopLEN, yup you're right, I don't use any other firewall software. I think the lack of portforwarding is down to the convoluted setup between my modem and router just to get a working net connection in the first place. Feckin CNET hardware, never again...

Dave

ricey

Yes on weekends I rob Xtravisions

Xtravision aint even got axx to stuff i have.


Na im only messin sorry for the n00b bit, how am i 2 know if ye are
or not. All im saying is there is no need to use public trackers for a
few reasons.

1: The files are on there late.
2: The speeds are bad.
3: Its very easy to get caught.