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Do you ever tip?

  • 09-12-2005 7:50pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,479 ✭✭✭


    In a taxi this evening, gettin' on well with the driver which had been on the go since 8 this morning got to my destination and the fare came to €6.55 had a twenty with me and nothing smaller so i handed her the twenty and asked for ten back.


    does any bodyelse feel obliged to do so?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,200 ✭✭✭✭Basq


    My girlfriend complains as i always tip... unless there's some reason not to. They're rude.. or food's cold if ordering food in or whatever!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,240 ✭✭✭Endurance Man


    Of course not! In certain circumstanses i will though. If the driver is nice and the the change is not huge like 2-3 euro ill usually just tell him to keep it, its benefited me as i now have the private number of a local taxi guy that i can phone whenever :). Really helps at 3 in the morning when everyone is scrammbling for one.


  • Administrators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,774 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭hullaballoo


    Yeah, mine's usually substantially less than 50% though. But if the driver's ok, usually give him a euro or so.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 272 ✭✭Rcuomo


    i often get the feeling that taxi drivers expect a tip, you know the awkward moment between when you give them the money and you're waiting for your change...it'd usually be a small amount, like a euro or something but i'd wait for it. Its not a matter of being scabby, its just they provide a service, and the charges are clearly set out for that service so i dont think tipping is necessary, and to be honest most taxi drivers i've had moan and moan and dont exactly make the journey pleasant....

    had to change the amount above cos it was looking cheap!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,857 ✭✭✭✭Dave!


    I do if there's some change left... For example, the other night I got a pizza, it cost €13, and I had €20, so I gave him it and asked for the fiver back. If it cost €15, I wouldn't give him the 5er, and I wouldn't go in and get some change for him.

    So, if I'm presented with an excuse to tip, then I generally will, but I won't go out of my way to do it :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,322 ✭✭✭Repli


    DaveMcG wrote:
    So, if I'm presented with an excuse to tip, then I generally will, but I won't go out of my way to do it :)

    You wouldn't survive a day in America :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 688 ✭✭✭merlinsmerryman


    DaveMcG wrote:
    So, if I'm presented with an excuse to tip, then I generally will, but I won't go out of my way to do it :)

    I'd be the same, the whole taxi one is a bit odd. I would nearly always tip but can see people's reason for not.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,199 ✭✭✭Jimi-Spandex


    I'm in NY/NJ so you are kind of obliged to tip for virtually everything at this stage. It's bloody ridiculous most of the time, you can barely fart without having to tip someone. I don't mind tipping waiting/service staff at 15-20% because they get **** wages here and usually I find them to be pretty helpful. It also pays dividends to tip bar staff here well, especially if you're on the shorts as you'll make your money back in the size of the shots. They're usually not tight arses with optics on the bottles preventing a shot from being more than 35.5mls, grrrr those things make me angry!

    As for when I was at home, I'd usually tip the taxi driver if he's not been a bell end or has been fast/sound and service staff the usual.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,335 ✭✭✭rugbug86


    its like that everywhere in america


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,240 ✭✭✭Endurance Man


    I'm in NY/NJ so you are kind of obliged to tip for virtually everything at this stage. It's bloody ridiculous most of the time, you can barely fart without having to tip someone. I don't mind tipping waiting/service staff at 15-20% because they get **** wages here and usually I find them to be pretty helpful. It also pays dividends to tip bar staff here well, especially if you're on the shorts as you'll make your money back in the size of the shots. They're usually not tight arses with optics on the bottles preventing a shot from being more than 35.5mls, grrrr those things make me angry!

    As for when I was at home, I'd usually tip the taxi driver if he's not been a bell end or has been fast/sound and service staff the usual.

    Hell ye, i always give the Barman bigg tips :D, it really does pay off. I was out a few weeks ago at some club, was tipping this same barman all night, at about 3 when they where closing up he gave me 2 shots and a bottle of carlsberg free :D.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,640 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Nice Guy


    I never tip. Not even at the Barbers. My Barber hates me by the way.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,048 ✭✭✭Amazotheamazing


    If it's good service, sure. If it's bad, no.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,339 ✭✭✭✭tman


    all the time :)



    "don't eat yellow snow" is a personal favourite


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 779 ✭✭✭Flashling


    I try too, when I have convenient change, but no one really expects me to, being young...in fact I sometimes get stuff free/discount (I love you hat shop man!)(And man from lemon)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 289 ✭✭*Oul_Doll_Cork*


    I usually Tip everyone.. Taxi's, Restraunt's, Hairdresser's & delivery guys... and when I buy stuff from the shop I usually just say "Put the change in the Box"

    It's not because I feel as if I have to do it! I just remember when I was younger and used to work in a hotel! We used to be so gratefull if we got a tip!!! :D

    + the fact that I hate having 'foxy money' in my purse!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,648 ✭✭✭dundalk cailin


    i dont tip taxi drivers usually cos taxis are so expensive here, last night the fare was 8euro, i gave him a tenner, he took ages counting out 2euro in 20 cents, but i still waited!! the fare shoulda only been 5euro so technically im givin a tip ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,129 ✭✭✭Nightwish


    I tip some taxi drivers, not all, just those who are nice. thats about it really. In this country you generally dont get the service that would necessitate a tip.


  • Moderators, Regional North East Moderators Posts: 12,739 Mod ✭✭✭✭cournioni


    Only in foreign countries tbh. I have no idea why I don't tip here. I suppose its because its a one off thing elsewhere.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 354 ✭✭solicitous


    PORNAPSTER wrote:
    Only in foreign countries tbh. I have no idea why I don't tip here. I suppose its because its a one off thing elsewhere.

    Its because they are more expensive here. so tip is included in the fare. fk 'em.


  • Moderators, Regional North East Moderators Posts: 12,739 Mod ✭✭✭✭cournioni


    Yup... Can't understand why people tip taxi drivers, they earn almost as much in a week as most normal hard working people would earn in a month.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,648 ✭✭✭dundalk cailin


    where i am the taxis are more expensive than dundalk, thats something ive noticed thats different, there's one taxi company for a town bigger than dundalk, but then more younger people have cars


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,237 ✭✭✭lau1247


    just out of curiousity..
    Why does everyone expect people to leave a tip?
    Just because the american expect it doesn't mean we have to follow do we?
    Are we just a flock of sheep?

    Every one has a job and they get paid..
    It's understandable if job like waitressing in the state pay like s***..
    But in ireland it pays almost just like any other normal job already anyway..
    Yes it's nice for the people getting it..
    But it's not necessary..

    To be frank.. with the state of the economy for the past 2 years..
    It's not like money grows on trees..
    Then people go and complaint that they don't have enough to spend from the wages they earn..
    They complaint everything cost too much..
    It's time to ask for another raise..

    It is probably because when you ask for another raise, the employer have to cover their extra expenditure from somewhere else..

    What kind of attitude is this?

    This is just my opinion..

    West Dublin, ☀️ 7.83kWp ⚡5.66 kWp South West, ⚡2.18 kWp North East



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,366 ✭✭✭luckat


    Cultural, isn't it? Here, if you're working as a waiter, say, and someone doesn't tip you, you feel that you haven't done a good job. And the wages are bad, so tips are needed.

    In Japan, people get *really insulted* if you tip them - in fact, they'll chase you down the street shouting "Customer, customer, you left your money" (in Japanese, obviously) if you leave money on the table. Sooo embarrassing, especially when the whole street helps to return your money to you.

    Their attitude there is that they're well paid for the work, and they do the job really well for the pride of it.

    But here, yes, I always tip. Used to feel awkward about it until I spent a bit of time in the service industries and saw it from the other side.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,541 ✭✭✭irlrobins


    I tip for taxi's unless I feel the driver is trying to screw me or takes the long way home. I don't tip barmen if I order at the bar, but I will tip lounge staff. Always tip 10% min in restaraunts. Usually tip barber.

    I can be over generous sometimes though, I think this is due to working in pubs for many years during school and college so I know what they go thru and how a tip can make a difference in service.

    In america tipping is much more serious. But thats cos people who get tipped are on a sh1te hourly rate (3 dollars an hour or something) so rely on their tips as their main income.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,248 ✭✭✭Duffman


    Tipping in bars is hard to get used to over here. You need to have dollar bills in your wallet when you buy drinks which isn't always the case :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,673 ✭✭✭✭senordingdong


    I'll tip whoever if I feel they made the effort and deserve it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,730 ✭✭✭✭simu


    I never tip in taxis as I was not aware it was the done thing in Ireland.

    I always tip in restaurants unless the service is truly dire.

    That's aboot it!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,145 ✭✭✭DonkeyStyle \o/


    Rcuomo wrote:
    you know the awkward moment between when you give them the money and you're waiting for your change...it'd usually be a small amount, like a euro or something but i'd wait for it. Its not a matter of being scabby, its just they provide a service, and the charges are clearly set out for that service so i dont think tipping is necessary, and to be honest most taxi drivers i've had moan and moan and dont exactly make the journey pleasant....
    Yeah exactly, "weeerrr de bleeedin de-reggalaashin blah blah blah".
    Taxis are a rip-off as it is... yeah, so I'm late for work at my minimum wage job, so I have to get a taxi, the cost of this 15 minute journey is more than what I'd make in an hour... and you want a tip aswell?!
    Ah... no, I think I'll be waiting for every cent of my change thx.

    I'd tip in places where I know the people working there are being paid crap money, but I think that only encourages employers to continue to pay shít money because "ah you've always got your tips, so your wages really work out at...".
    Personally I wouldn't like to be depending on tips to cover the rent, especially in this country.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,237 ✭✭✭lau1247


    luckat wrote:
    Cultural, isn't it? Here, if you're working as a waiter, say, and someone doesn't tip you, you feel that you haven't done a good job. And the wages are bad, so tips are needed.
    .

    Yes I undestand that if the wages are bad situation..
    I agree, no doubt..

    But whether or not "someone doesn't tip you, you feel that you haven't done a good job" is true or not..
    This is optional expectation..
    This is additional thinking from the person who give you the service but it doesn't mean they are right..
    Do you see what I mean?

    It's like, just because I ride the bicycle really well..
    I can do all sorts of trick like riding with no hand..
    Does that mean I'm to expect my parents to give me a car?
    If my parent don't give me a car..
    Should I think that I'm crap at riding a bicycle?
    And feel discourage?

    I know it's a stupid analogy..
    But it kinda gets the point across.. IMO

    West Dublin, ☀️ 7.83kWp ⚡5.66 kWp South West, ⚡2.18 kWp North East



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 354 ✭✭RefulgentGnomon


    "I'm very sorry the government taxes their tips, that's fcuked up. That ain't my fault. It would seem to me that waitresses are one of the many groups the government fcuks in the ass on a regular basis. Look, if you ask me to sign something that says the government shouldn't do that, I'll sign it, put it to a vote, I'll vote for it, but what I won't do is play ball. And as for this non-college bullsh!t I got two words for that: learn to fcukin' type, 'cause if you're expecting me to help out with the rent you're in for a big fcukin' surprise."

    "I don't tip because society says I have to. All right, if someone deserves a tip, if they really put forth an effort, I'll give them something a little something extra. But this tipping automatically, it's for the birds. As far as I'm concerned, they're just doing their job."


    "Do you know what this is? It's the world's smallest violin, playing just for the waitresses."

    Mr.Pink, Legend.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,494 ✭✭✭ronbyrne2005


    goods and services seem to be cheaper in america so you dont mind tipping. i think if it gets to a point where more tip than dont then the pendulum swings to everyone being expected to tip. tips can incentivise employees to provide good service but if they need incentives to provide good service to a fellow person then i dont think they are taking pride in their job.tips can also encourage employers to pay less as stated above ,overall i dont think tips are good for real service but really just encourage false pleasant service or arse licking as i call it,"yes sir" "have a nice day" etc

    as for taximen, i know a few,they pay f*&k all tax and many make 50k+ which is a lot when you dont pay much tax,plus you can write off the cost of your car against profits so you get a mercedes for next to nothing which you can use in your leisure time


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,595 ✭✭✭johnnyrotten


    I never tip. Not even at the Barbers. My Barber hates me by the way.

    Hence your name, Mr Nice Guy!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 440 ✭✭Angels


    My fella does this all the time in restaurants & taxis, he constantly feels like he has to tip cause he/she was so nice arghh!! waste of money i say. In Ireland we get robbed enough on price fares & restaurants prices i feel like 'why bother'???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,016 ✭✭✭mad m


    Myself and family were in USA this year and tipping is part of it all.You are even supposed to leave a tip in hotel room for cleaners....Which I didnt as I didnt know till afterwards.Dont think I would anyway as I thought I tipped enough while over there.Some win some lose.

    As for over here,was out lastnight and had a meal with wife which came to €80 and left a €5 tip....I know its below the 10% malarky but something is better than nothing...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,810 ✭✭✭lodgepole


    mad m wrote:
    As for over here,was out lastnight and had a meal with wife which came to €80 and left a €5 tip....I know its below the 10% malarky but something is better than nothing...
    Standard tip in the US is to match the tax which is usually around the 15% mark. I lived in Canada for a year and had an awful time with tipping. Had a bar girl tell me it was costing her money to serve me. The cheek of her... Needless to say I stopped tipping her completely after that.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,466 ✭✭✭Blisterman


    Angels wrote:
    My fella does this all the time in restaurants & taxis, he constantly feels like he has to tip cause he/she was so nice arghh!! waste of money i say. In Ireland we get robbed enough on price fares & restaurants prices i feel like 'why bother'???
    The waiters in the restaurant are probably getting minimum wage regardless of how much the food costs.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1 ED66t6


    Please Tip!! Speaking as someone who survives on tips...
    The other thing, there are other people to tip, such as bar staff, waiters, yada yada... Plus dont think that by leaving nothing your making a point about the bad service... To REALLY make the point, leave a cent... leaving no tip just makes staff think they did a regular job... leaving a small one is an insult, leaving a big one is good, and so on!! Anyway, a tip should be a resonable estimate of a) what you think the servise was worth and b) what you can afford...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 354 ✭✭solicitous


    ED66t6 wrote:
    Please Tip!! Speaking as someone who survives on tips...
    The other thing, there are other people to tip, such as bar staff, waiters, yada yada... Plus dont think that by leaving nothing your making a point about the bad service... To REALLY make the point, leave a cent... leaving no tip just makes staff think they did a regular job... leaving a small one is an insult, leaving a big one is good, and so on!! Anyway, a tip should be a resonable estimate of a) what you think the servise was worth and b) what you can afford...

    Wouldn't it be a better thing for the customer to allow the waiter (we will say) think that they done a regular job, than me hand over a cent and then risk getting my food jizzed or spat in on my next visit? :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 655 ✭✭✭smiley_knees


    I'm a waitress. I get **** all pay as it is. Tips are a very nice thing to get and very much appreciated.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,230 ✭✭✭scojones


    Repli wrote:
    You wouldn't survive a day in America :D

    But you see, in American they're on crap wages. Take waiters and waitresses, they're on about 2 dollars an hour and make their money through tips.

    I don't generally tip taxi drivers because I think their prices are too high anyway, but if I really do like the guy I will.

    As for eating out, I have always left a tip - I've never had a reason not to, and hope I never do.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,326 ✭✭✭pretty*monster


    I never tip. Why? Because I earn minimum wage in a job outside the service industry. No body gives me tips (obviously, since I don't encounter the public at work).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,048 ✭✭✭Amazotheamazing


    On the whole Americans are paid badly as waitresses thing, why are we expected to subsidise their tight employers, who presumably are making plenty of money from selling food and drink at regular prices? Tbh (although I do tip) it seems like a way for employers to treat staff like crap.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,741 ✭✭✭jd


    On the whole Americans are paid badly as waitresses thing, why are we expected to subsidise their tight employers, who presumably are making plenty of money from selling food and drink at regular prices? Tbh (although I do tip) it seems like a way for employers to treat staff like crap.
    The culture in america is that you pay for the service through tipping. And the service is generally excellent. (Though in some places the spiel you get at the start is annoying.)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,175 ✭✭✭angeldelight


    I'm a student, and tip in most situations. Definitely for meals and take aways. Taxis, it really depends. If the driver is extra nice like helps with bags or actually shuts up when I'm obviously not in the mood to chat. Wouldn't be big tips, but I'd always do it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,048 ✭✭✭Amazotheamazing


    But in Ireland the service is generally average so why have we imported tipping but not imported American standards?

    Also, why don't people tip air hostesses? (separate question I know, but I've rarely seen it done).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,038 ✭✭✭Litcagral


    If two staff carry out a function that could easily have completed by one, is one expected to tip both? I'm just back from the US and when leaving our hotel the bell hop carried bags from room to foyer and another flagged taxi and put them in the boot. I felt I had to tip both and the taxi driver. (Didn't tip doorman).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 806 ✭✭✭Atrocity


    I don't think people should have to tip. In theory, I'd never tip, but when it comes down to it I always do to avoid embarassment. It's just annoying sometimes because that's why 90% of people do tip; because they're embarassed about being seen as mean. It's not because of good service or friendliness, it's more because people think that they have to.


  • Moderators, Regional North West Moderators Posts: 19,159 Mod ✭✭✭✭byte
    byte


    If I find the service good, yes I will tip. But being served by cranky waiters/waitresses equals no tips.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,575 ✭✭✭junkyard


    I alway's tip as long as the staff are polite and helpful. Having been on the recieving end, tips do make a difference at the end of a week.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 181 ✭✭sideFX


    I never tip taxi men. The fares are a rip off to begin with thats why i don't.
    Cmon Min fare €38 Max fare €50 for a 12 mile trip home from town. Rip off!
    I tip the delivery guys that deliver my pizza or whatever and waiters etc thats it.
    Things are too expensive these days to be tipping


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