Bestiality in the family

Paul_B_044

Hi all,

I’m going to be as brief as possible and cut straight to the point. My father left home about 10 years ago so it’s just me my mam and brother living at home. I’ve recently turned 18 and am in 6th year secondary school. My older brother is 24, unemployed and not in college, he just sits around all day watching TV. He drinks a lot and smokes drugs, where he gets the money from is beyond me. But that’s not the problem, for the past 2 years I haven’t been sleeping properly, every night my brother is doing something with the family dog.

He sleeps in the bedroom next to me. At around 3am nearly every night I would wake up to grunting noises coming from his room, it would usually last about 10 minutes, and he would then let the dog out of his room. I have seen him letting the dog out of his room several times. Another time I got home from school early and caught him masturbating on the dog. He told me if I told anybody he would kill me in my sleep, I believe he would because he’s a very violent person.

As well as this he often goes camping in the woods near our house and brings the dog with him. He would tell us he was meeting friends. I have never followed him into the woods because I am too afraid of what he might do to me if he caught me.

This is a serious problem and I haven’t spoken to anyone about it, I’ve just been trying to deal with it and get on with my life but I can’t bear it any longer. I’m afraid of going to the police about it, I live in a small community and it would eventually leak out about what my brother was doing and that would break my mother’s heart.

Has anyone ever had or have a similar problem? I’m finding 6th year stressful enough without having to deal with this as well. I would really like some advice on what to do.

Sorry if this a bit much but I have to tell some one. I know this is really weird but I don’t know anyone on here so it’s the only place I can talk about it. It’s really taken a lot off my conscience just getting it written down.

Trx

Get the dog put down

Atrocity

It must be a horrible thing to have to live with, your brother obviously needs help and the quicker the better. You really have to tell someone, maybe your mother should hear it from you first.. Your brother's threats are more than likely just empty, he is probably terrified that this is going to come out and is panicking. He has serious problems and is no doubt suffering with this secret as well. He needs to be released from this and given help. Maybe there is someone in your area who you could talk to in confidence, i.e. a priest or teacher or something.

Good luck anyway.

Gordon

Well I don't think this topic has come up before..

Paul, are you saying that you live in a small town in the country?

Chong

OMFG well this topic is new one. I have to say I am not a big animal fan but this is just god damn wrong if its true , the whole topic is digusting tbh. I am sorry because I havent helped but I have to say your brother needs some real help if this true. Frickin disgusting. :mad:

Paul_B_044

thanks atrocity for your help and yes i live in a small country town.

merlinsmerryman

He does need help though I understand your terrible position given the fact tat he has threatened you with physical violence. You really need totalk to someone and I think the two options mentioned might be a good option. Try talking to yor parents maybe they could talk to him in a controlled way.

MrSinn

Is the dog male or female?

Crazy story ok!

The reason i ask is because i watched a documentary on that subject once,your brother has an illness OK no doubt,but he may also be a closet homosexual that cant come to terms with it so he uses the dog,its just one of the theory's experts have.
I would advise you not to go to the garda,if you seen some local weirdo doing that to an animal then yes tell the garda but dont report your brother.

Sarky

Only 10 minutes? Poor dog...

Matthewthebig

Mein Gott

Piste

I think first and foremost you should phone the RSPCA and get them to call around. I'm sure if you asked they would be happy enough to say they were sent by a neighbour who had heard the dog yelping or something.

Second of all, your brother seems very unstable and somethnig definitely needs to be done about him. Whether you do something or not your Mother will find out, it's up to you whether she finds out now while he hasn't done serious harm to anyone, or later if his instability gets the better of him and he ends up trying to have sex with the dog (From your post I assume he's just masturbating over the dog?) or harms someone, seeing as he certainly seems capable of it if he made those threats to you and is a violent person.

Best of Luck.

BrianD3

Maybe someone asked your brother to give the dog a bone?

Gordon

BrianD3 wrote:

Maybe someone asked your brother to give the dog a bone?

Please, all, try to stay on topic, I know it's difficult but this is PI.

Chong

Thats bad but still funny.

ShevY

http://members.boards.ie/shevy/tbh.jpg

The Sweeper

This is a first in topic-land all right.

What do I say to you?

The only way you're going to get through this is to look after you. Do whatever it is you need to do to help yourself. Focus on your exams, take up a hobby, spend more time in the library than in the house, and when you've free time, do something else. Sometimes denial is a marvellous thing.

The next thing - it's not your responsibility to help your brother get over his desire to have sex with the family dog.

(Am I being serious? Yes I am.)

First, he can't have sex with it for ever - for starters its lifetime is about 13 years. You also can't really do much about it. Report him to the ISPCA? The stupid dog will probably be more distressed that you've taken its owner away than your brother will be at the loss of the dog. And if you live in a small town, the level of torment this will generate for your mother will be fairly horrendous. As for reporting him to the police - are you under the impression that the dog's going to testify? "Woof officer?"

As for people who think you should talk to your brother? Eh, HOW are you going to broach that one? "Eh Seamus, I don't think you should be getting Fido to lick your knob every night. It's not good. It's not the sort of thing that right-thinking normal people are into. You really shouldn't be up to it."

Dude, people do seriously weird sh1t. Unfortunately for you, your brother is one of those people. Bestiality is illegal for one thing. For another, there are a HUGE BUNCH of people out there who have sex with their pets and who allow their pets to have sex with them. They call themselves Zoophiles. They maintain that they aren't hurting their animals, and they love them.

Is it f*cked up? Of course it is. Inter-species dating has never been something I'm into.

Branching off from that, you'll have the argument from the people who will say that paedophiles maintain that children are sexual people, Is that f*cked up? Damn sure it is. There are other people who say that having sex with anything other than another consenting adult is the single most f*cked up thing you could do. In yet another camp, there are those who'd see you whipped for stealing the innocence of a child, but who maintain their pets are adult animals with sexual appetities. Then there are a whole other bunch who are into Furrys, and don't want to have sex with animals but it floats their boat to have sex with people dressed up as animals.

There are people out there who may find this post unhelpful so far, so I'll make my point.

There are very few original ideas in this world. Somebody somewhere will have thought of doing it before you. Somebody somewhere has been through it before you. However bad, mad, shameful and dangerous to know you believe your secret it, somebody else has done it in their own lives and worn it like their badge of pride.

Your brother appears to be into your dog. This is not your problem. This is your brother's problem. It's not your mother's problem. It's your brother's problem.

In fact, the only other living being in this world for whom it may be a problem is the dog. Are you going to get the dog's opinion? Go ahead and try, let me know how that works out for ya.

Concentrate on your exams, concentrate on your own life, concentrate on you. Leave your brother alone. And the dog too.

(I don't think I could look it in the eye if I were you.)

And no, I'm not taking the piss. Just sometimes people do stuff that's so bizarre and so unspoken and so randomly just random that you have to get on with your own life and leave them to their thing.

Nevyn

WDK, ShevY
Do read the charter all issues are to be treated seriously.
If you have nothing constructive or helpful to post you will be Banned.

___________________________________________________________________

Paul_B_044

Tell your Mother the dog isn't well and get her to make an appointment for the
vet and you take the dog and have word and see if the vet will keep the dog overnight.

Go talk to your family dr about the issue s/he will be able to advise you about
acessing help for your brother.

Is there an old family member that you can talk to about this ?

WhiteWashMan

is it a she-dog, or a he-dog?

the gender could make all the difference. your brother may be gay...

kaimera

gender thing pointed out already WWM by Mr. Sinn...

MrSinn

WhiteWashMan wrote:

is it a she-dog, or a he-dog?

the gender could make all the difference. your brother may be gay...

The reason i ask is because i watched a documentary on that subject once,your brother has an illness OK no doubt,but he may also be a closet homosexual that cant come to terms with it so he uses the dog,its just one of the theory's experts have.

Paul_B_044

again, many thanks for all the advise. its really not as easy as some say it is to forget about it and move on, if it was a friend of mine ok but this is my brother, i love him very much and i cant bare to see him like this.

my dog is female, so i dont think my brother is gay, he has had a few girlfriends before.

Pighead

Thaedydal wrote:

WDK, ShevY
Do read the charter all issues are to be treated seriously.
If you have nothing constructive or helpful to post you will be Banned.

Has Sarky got some sort of PI immunity? Pighead wants some too!
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=50498496&postcount=9

MrSinn

They must have been all bitches too:D

Only kidding.He must be smoking too much paul,too much dope causes psychosis

Nevyn

MrSinn, Pighead

Banned for off topic posting,
Do read the charter,
Have a nice day
Thaedydal.

Sarky's comment was not off topic and was with the concern of the dog.
Any one else want a ban ?

chump

Are you sure it was your brother who initiated it?

Sometimes it can be hard to say "No". Especially when an opportunity lands on your lap... I'm not condoning this sort of behaviour, but if the bitch initiated it, who's to say it isn't mutually rewarding?

WhiteWashMan

kaimera wrote:

gender thing pointed out already WWM by Mr. Sinn...

ah, i didnt read the rest of the posts after the initial post. i was too in shock.

Stabshauptmann

Thaedydal wrote:

Sarky's comment was not off topic and was with the concern of the dog.

lol

i, like most ppl here im guessing, have no expert opinion to offer, but perhaps this is something he'll simply grow out of? Too much drugs / porn on the brain. You have my sympathy. I wouldnt tell my mother for a long while, but try and keep the dog away from him.

monkeyfudge

Piste wrote:

I think first and foremost you should phone the RSPCA and get them to call around.

ISPCA surely.

They'd need a lot more evidence before getting involved other than what someone thinks might be going on in the next room at 3am.

The Gnome

I find this whole thing very unsettling.

I suggest you bring the dog to the vet first and foremost. As human and canine physiology is invariably different, I'm sure the dog isn't in the best shape and their may even be some internal tearing or rupturing which could lead to a nasty infection and may be life threatening to the dog.

If at the very least you can't help your brother help the dog.

I'm not sure how to solve this in the long run, it may be best to have some form of intervention.

LegacyUser

Minesajackdaniels wrote:

This is a first in topic-land all right.

What do I say to you?

The only way you're going to get through this is to look after you. Do whatever it is you need to do to help yourself. Focus on your exams, take up a hobby, spend more time in the library than in the house, and when you've free time, do something else. Sometimes denial is a marvellous thing.

The next thing - it's not your responsibility to help your brother get over his desire to have sex with the family dog.

(Am I being serious? Yes I am.)

First, he can't have sex with it for ever - for starters its lifetime is about 13 years. You also can't really do much about it. Report him to the ISPCA? The stupid dog will probably be more distressed that you've taken its owner away than your brother will be at the loss of the dog. And if you live in a small town, the level of torment this will generate for your mother will be fairly horrendous. As for reporting him to the police - are you under the impression that the dog's going to testify? "Woof officer?"

As for people who think you should talk to your brother? Eh, HOW are you going to broach that one? "Eh Seamus, I don't think you should be getting Fido to lick your knob every night. It's not good. It's not the sort of thing that right-thinking normal people are into. You really shouldn't be up to it."

Dude, people do seriously weird sh1t. Unfortunately for you, your brother is one of those people. Bestiality is illegal for one thing. For another, there are a HUGE BUNCH of people out there who have sex with their pets and who allow their pets to have sex with them. They call themselves Zoophiles. They maintain that they aren't hurting their animals, and they love them.

Is it f*cked up? Of course it is. Inter-species dating has never been something I'm into.

Branching off from that, you'll have the argument from the people who will say that paedophiles maintain that children are sexual people, Is that f*cked up? Damn sure it is. There are other people who say that having sex with anything other than another consenting adult is the single most f*cked up thing you could do. In yet another camp, there are those who'd see you whipped for stealing the innocence of a child, but who maintain their pets are adult animals with sexual appetities. Then there are a whole other bunch who are into Furrys, and don't want to have sex with animals but it floats their boat to have sex with people dressed up as animals.

There are people out there who may find this post unhelpful so far, so I'll make my point.

There are very few original ideas in this world. Somebody somewhere will have thought of doing it before you. Somebody somewhere has been through it before you. However bad, mad, shameful and dangerous to know you believe your secret it, somebody else has done it in their own lives and worn it like their badge of pride.

Your brother appears to be into your dog. This is not your problem. This is your brother's problem. It's not your mother's problem. It's your brother's problem.

In fact, the only other living being in this world for whom it may be a problem is the dog. Are you going to get the dog's opinion? Go ahead and try, let me know how that works out for ya.

Concentrate on your exams, concentrate on your own life, concentrate on you. Leave your brother alone. And the dog too.

(I don't think I could look it in the eye if I were you.)

And no, I'm not taking the piss. Just sometimes people do stuff that's so bizarre and so unspoken and so randomly just random that you have to get on with your own life and leave them to their thing.

Glad to seee one honest post on this subject. As the lady said....

One its disgusting. Two it illegal.

Now on hind sight you could be talking about Homo sexuality in a time gone by not so long a go. 15 Years?

So it basically a sexual preference. He will find justification you will find disgust.

Still its ok if he wanted to dress up in wamans panties and rubbed his knob off a locker. It is quite ok to pay for that type of stuff.

Now you can kill a cow but not stick your cock in it. Have it on a burger but not shoot your load in it.

See... life is strange. Pay no attention to people here. Absorbe as you need to.

In reality if less than a third but more than twenty percent of your population voted what he was doing was ok... it would be! You got to love democracy

And you just gotta love the gay folk!

monkeyfudge

The Gnome wrote:

I find this whole thing very unsettling.

I suggest you bring the dog to the vet first and foremost.

This is a good suggestion. The vet may be able to confirm whether or not anything is going on. Just make sure that the vet doesn't suspect you if he finds evidence of sexual abuse.

Is there a such thing as vet / patient owner confidentiality?

Dr Bolouswki

In fairness, from the sounds of things his problems to go deeper than bopping his baloney over the dog... rather than concentrate on this issue, how about talking to him as a friend and brother that loves him, nto necessarilya bout this but about his feelings in general... he sounds pretty isolated to me if he's holding congress with beasts? Forget about the cops and the ISPCA - this should be about helping your brother, not comforting the family pet or giving the local plod something to leak to their mates...

Paul_B_044

Dr Bolouswki wrote:

In fairness, from the sounds of things his problems to go deeper than bopping his baloney over the dog... rather than concentrate on this issue, how about talking to him as a friend and brother that loves him, nto necessarilya bout this but about his feelings in general... he sounds pretty isolated to me if he's holding congress with beasts? Forget about the cops and the ISPCA - this should be about helping your brother, not comforting the family pet or giving the local plod something to leak to their mates...

i would talk to him but im too afraid of him. when i caught him that time after school, he hit me pretty bad. Besides i wouldnt know where to start if i were to talk to him.

he has just been in my room and told me to go to sleep.

Riamfada

OP

Im really sorry to hear your story. Seriously lads all joking aside its sick and weird. If your not attached to the dog Id get rid of it. And id call a psychiatric help center for real advice. This isnt a medical board and it sounds like your brother may have serious mental issues

Exon

I don't mean to be harsh mate and i'm proberly going to get banned but if he's like this now he's always going to be like this.

BigCon

That's fúcked up alright, but not as unusual as you think, I' bet.
I could spend a few minutes trying to think/type a reply, but Minesajackdanies post nailed it tbh.

Reporting this to anyone - your Mother, ISPCA, Vet, Guards etc is opening up a huge can of worms that none of you will ever get over.

Lifes too short, try to get on with your own life and get out of there - go to college or whatever and move on.
The only loser in this is the dog.

BTW, do you drive? You could take the dog to the pound or take him for a long drive and let him off somewhere (wouldn't noramlly recommend this, but in this case I think it would be for his own good).

Whatever the outcome, I think it's best to keep mum about this...
Good luck

WhiteWashMan

i think the brother needs to seriously consider the situation if word ever gets aout.

after all, you can build 1000 bridges, and youre just an engineer.
fúck one goat, and you will always be a goatfúcker.

theres a lesson in there somewhere.

BigCon

BigCon wrote:

That's fúcked up alright, but not as unusual as you think, I' bet.
I could spend a few minutes trying to think/type a reply, but Minesajackdanies post nailed it tbh.

Reporting this to anyone - your Mother, ISPCA, Vet, Guards etc is opening up a huge can of worms that none of you will ever get over.

Lifes too short, try to get on with your own life and get out of there - go to college or whatever and move on.
The only loser in this is the dog.

BTW, do you drive? You could take the dog to the pound or take him for a long drive and let him off somewhere (wouldn't noramlly recommend this, but in this case I think it would be for his own good).

Whatever the outcome, I think it's best to keep mum about this...
Good luck

I agree the poor little dog ,take the dog to the pound or take him for a long drive.

Miss Fluff

Poor, poor you - what a bloody awful situation. If the poor dog isn't there, your brother won't be able to indulge in this sick behaviour. Why don't you make sure the dog sleeps in your room and be firm about it? It's a way of letting your brother know you know without being confrontational and possibly getting a smack from him. And try and concentrate on school, your brother has a mental illness but the next few months are crucial for you so try to put it out of your head for now.

Beruthiel

Paul_B_044 wrote:

its really not as easy as some say it is to forget about it and move on, if it was a friend of mine ok but this is my brother, i love him very much and i cant bare to see him like this..

you are not your brothers keeper though, and he is an adult now.
He should be out getting himself a job or training for something in order to find a job. Encourage him in this area if you wish as it may have an effect on him in other ways if he starts to get his life back on track.

majd's post was excellent and you should think on it.

Peace

Consider that if he continues with this... condition.. and it gets worse he could move onto sexually molesting other things.

I have no idea how you are going to approch the subject with him or other family members. Having beastialtiy occurring to the family pet in the next room must be dreadful.

OP, for you own peace of mind and to help your brother and the dog... do something..

I'm sorry i couldn't help out more.

Beruthiel

Peace wrote:

He could start in on children..

that's an unfair comment to make, can you back it up with some stats?
are you qualified to make such a comment?

Peace

Beruthiel wrote:

that's an unfair comment to make, can you back it up with some stats?
are you qualified to make such a comment?

Nope and thats why i used the word could.

Post edited so nobody throws any toys out of the pram.

Peace

But just before i get my arse kicked from here to sunday for that comment... would you leave him alone with your/anyone elses kids?

delly

While it may not be fair to say that he might move on to children, he obviously has a sexual problem. Its not simply a fetish, it is morally and legally wrong. When somebody is willing to break the law to satisfy a sexual desire, how can you rule anything in or out when it comes to future satisfaction, which has more chance of increasing rather than diminishing?

turbot

Something that might help your brother:

Buy these two books:

"Men in Love"
"Women on Top"

by Nancy Friday.

They are collections of sexual fantasies written by men and women.

Read them yourself. Make sure you scuff up the books badly as you do so.
Tell your brother you need his opinion and ask him what he thinks about some detail within them. He'll probably read them cover to cover and it might open him up.

For your exams, this might be useful:

http://www.examsuccesstips.com/

For yourself, actively engage in sports / plan to travel / do stuff that fills your life and mind with high quality experiences...

Good luck!

secret_squirrel

A short term fix for the situation might be to let the dog sleep in your room during the night. Its slightly more humane than the long drive/pound/Big Sleep.

Your brother wont dare kick up too much of a fuss for fear of your parents finding out. You will have to stand up to your brother on this though which could be tricky.

Blisterman

Can you hear the dog squealing or barking during the night?

lazydaisy

Hygeinically this cant be good. Im not taking this p*** but I hope hes using protection at least.

liamskater

Trx wrote:

Get the dog put down

lmfao!

ivorbiggen

this subject is totally mind blowing...l cant unterstand how the dog puts up with it.Fancy a dog letting a human ride it... If your gona get rid of the dog ill take it off your hands.Does it mind if you dress it up to?