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Ross O'Carroll Kelly vs the Northside

  • 30-11-2005 8:01pm
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    Rite, does Ross (or Paul Howard) actually have a point in his book? Are the majority of northsiders knacks n are southsiders fearful of crossing the liffey?

    Not trying to incite hatred here as im from the sticks, just looking for opinions. Is Howth classier than Foxrock? Shud Tallaght be relocated to an odd number postcode? Shud Lucan be moved to Offaly?

    Shud Golf drivers be automatically be given 6 penalty points for just buying the car?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,584 ✭✭✭✭Creamy Goodness


    no that guy who writes that book is a complete tool, not a strimmer roysh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,430 ✭✭✭Sizzler


    I think its TOTR ! Myself and Tiernan are going down for a few pints to Kielys!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,783 ✭✭✭Binomate


    foking northsoiders!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,349 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    I dunno about any serious point, but the books are about as funny as cancer. And not that hilarious clown cancer.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,783 ✭✭✭Binomate


    I dunno about any serious point, but the books are about as funny as cancer. And not that hilarious clown cancer.
    I've never read them and I already hate them.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,006 ✭✭✭✭Zebra3


    The books are class.

    Imo he's ripping the piss out of snobbish southsiders as it's seen through their eyes.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 6,525 Mod ✭✭✭✭dregin


    I made it through about 3 chapters of one book. Long drawn out and repetative.

    Boring.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 10,686 Mod ✭✭✭✭melekalikimaka


    if ya went to those type schools ya'd find it funny


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭Rb


    I've read them all and I found them hilarious.The only negative thing about them is what they've done to 13/14 year old girls who view the book as some kind of guide to life and are now going around thinking that in Dublin 4, they actually speak like that and if they speak like that then they'll come across in some way superior, whereas anyone I've met from Dublin4 doesn't actually speak like that so they're(the 14 year old girls) just making an arse of themselves.

    They come into the store I work in with their moms, who I've noticed either a: Don't speak like that,have a neutral accent or
    b:Have a bit of a Dublin accent(i.e their daughters are ashamed of their background so they're trying to make themselves look "better" by putting on these stupid accents)

    It's not confined to Dublin either, I've heard of girls in Dundalk,Cork, Kerry,Galway who are putting on these accents and the only thing you can do is laugh at them, and point, and keep laughing.
    Stupid boggers, like what are they playing at? :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 779 ✭✭✭Flashling


    Yeah, I go to one of those schools..when I first read it I really really thought that it was my friends brother, they're exactly the same person! I know what you mean about d4s though, I'm in d6 and there's a bit of a cross over, alot of peopla are wanna be d4s, and really snobby..but then again, I'm sure when you get to know them they're really nice. Odds are, at least some of them have to be, right?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,673 ✭✭✭✭senordingdong


    faceman wrote:
    Not trying to incite hatred here

    He's trying to incite hatred....SEIZE HIM!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,743 ✭✭✭funk-you




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,046 ✭✭✭Dustaz


    rb_ie wrote:
    It's not confined to Dublin either, I've heard of girls in Dundalk,Cork, Kerry,Galway who are putting on these accents and the only thing you can do is laugh at them, and point, and keep laughing.


    I went out with a girl from Limerick and her and ALL her mates talked like that. One of them had gone to school in Alex, fair enough, but the rest were all dyed in the wool limerick folk. Was bizzarre and led to me referring to them all as L4


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭Rb


    Dustaz wrote:
    I went out with a girl from Limerick and her and ALL her mates talked like that. One of them had gone to school in Alex, fair enough, but the rest were all dyed in the wool limerick folk. Was bizzarre and led to me referring to them all as L4

    I think it's one of the most desperate things I've ever come across, fúcking gobshi'ites tbh.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5 Quincy


    How can you not think that his books and columns are really funny! Anyone who spends 120 yoyos on a pair of "dubes" should be shot! These brain dead D4 muppets are being churned out of fee paying & "rugby schools" at an alarming rate & I'm sick of having to listen to them sh*te on about make-up/false tan and "like oh my God roish, did you see what Saoirse's ex's cousin's girlfriend is like wearing tonight - she like so tote bought that in like Dunnes or something" every time I have to queue for a drink or the toilets when I'm out in town I have endure this kind of crap!

    I know not all southsiders are like that, just like not all northsiders are knackbags but does anyone else share my fear that these D4 Ross O'Carroll-Kelly heads are multiplying and taking over the city. I swear to God a trip to the ladies in club Dandelion on a friday night would provide enough material for at least five new books!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,648 ✭✭✭✭ctrl-alt-delete


    lucan moved to offaly? whats the reasoning behind that? never heard of these books-but then again i dont read books


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    Zebra3 wrote:
    The books are class.

    Imo he's ripping the piss out of snobbish southsiders as it's seen through their eyes.
    yeah im thinking that myself no one could be that bad!!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 255 ✭✭ratboy


    they're clever, i think he's trying to rip it out of everybody. His articles in the sports section as Paul Howard are better though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,006 ✭✭✭✭Zebra3


    lucan moved to offaly? whats the reasoning behind that? never heard of these books-but then again i dont read books

    Just buy the Sunday Tribune then. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,010 ✭✭✭besty


    The books are painful.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 84 ✭✭samurai kebab


    I absolutely hate the man,have you ever read some of his articles in the paper,i mean slaggin the northside as being scum is ok by me but the fact that he names areas and calls them ****holes makes him a wanker,i remember him slagging tallaght and donaghmede among others.donaghmede is right beside where i live and i think it's very insulting to people who live in these areas to read this stuff and have worked hard to buy themselves houses and raise familys in these areas and it will only deter future buyers from these areas.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭Rb


    I absolutely hate the man,have you ever read some of his articles in the paper,i mean slaggin the northside as being scum is ok by me but the fact that he names areas and calls them ****holes makes him a wanker,i remember him slagging tallaght and donaghmede among others.donaghmede is right beside where i live and i think it's very insulting to people who live in these areas to read this stuff and have worked hard to buy themselves houses and raise familys in these areas and it will only deter future buyers from these areas.

    The fun is in the naming and shaming


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,246 ✭✭✭✭Riamfada


    for the idiots!

    he is taking the absolute piss out of everyone . especially the d4 crowd.

    anyone who sees ross's views as those of the authors or any normal person should go back to reading anne and barry books. Its sterotypical satire


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 856 ✭✭✭ergo


    Quincy wrote:

    I know not all southsiders are like that, just like not all northsiders are knackbags but does anyone else share my fear that these D4 Ross O'Carroll-Kelly heads are multiplying and taking over the city.


    I share this fear.

    it is happening too :(

    Edit: initially I couldn't get through a paragraph of those books, more recently when a friend made me read on one holidays it was strangely compelling, train-wreck type reading which I didn't actually enjoy that much (because it was scarily true , especially if you went to UCD) but at times hilarious, and I felt I had to get through it, as fast as I could, get it out of my system and get on with my life!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,246 ✭✭✭✭Riamfada


    Actually what is happening is that D4 filth are growing as a large class surpassed only by the extreme growth of scobie filth from multiple vectors such as Dublin East,Dublin N.West,Dublin S.West Dublin N.East


    Have no fears both societies will battle it out in a bloody coup .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,103 ✭✭✭fly_agaric


    Grimes wrote:
    for the idiots!

    he is taking the absolute piss out of everyone . especially the d4 crowd.

    anyone who sees ross's views as those of the authors or any normal person should go back to reading anne and barry books. Its sterotypical satire

    It's a sneaky reverse píss-take IMO. Most of the people who enjoy it probably really do harbour those kind of obnoxious opinions, or at least a slightly watered-down version. That's why they all lap it up so much!


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 10,686 Mod ✭✭✭✭melekalikimaka


    i think he speaks truth...he does pluck these ideas from the wind ya know


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 278 ✭✭Niall123


    i think he speaks truth...he does pluck these ideas from the wind ya know

    Yeah, I just saw him on Turbirdy Tonight and my God do I know people identical to that and it is funny the way they don't realise it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,252 ✭✭✭Funkstard


    Blackrock College RFC isn't tied to the school, the club is in Monkstown/Blackrock, and closer to CBC Monkstown than Rock.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 278 ✭✭Niall123


    Funkstard wrote:
    Blackrock College RFC isn't tied to the school, the club is in Monkstown/Blackrock, and closer to CBC Monkstown than Rock.

    So you're one of them.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    s-a-t-i-r-e


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,383 ✭✭✭peckerhead


    s-a-t-i-r-e
    p-i-s-s-p-o-o-r satire! :D


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Actually, I don't think it's that bad. Some of it can be unnervingly accurate. At the same time it's also a satire of how the northside intelligentsia percieve dumb southsiders.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,383 ✭✭✭peckerhead


    Actually, I don't think it's that bad. Some of it can be unnervingly accurate. At the same time it's also a satire of how the northside intelligentsia percieve dumb southsiders.
    I think how much it 'strikes a chord' with you depends on how much you belong to one or other of these groups. Me, I'm 'southside intelligentsia', so it just rolls straight off my back... :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 311 ✭✭xha1r


    if you think that d4 heads are multiplying, then why would you have a prob with that? focking knacks these days, they're actually breeding! the city is being ruined by northsiders, a well must be built over the liffey!

    southside for life yo.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 278 ✭✭Niall123


    xha1r wrote:
    southside for life yo.

    Word


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5 molloyzer


    come on lads! Them books are the best thing since sliced bread, and i'm not from D4


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,673 ✭✭✭✭senordingdong


    Niall123 wrote:
    Word


    Lucan...yeah?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 63 ✭✭c m


    xha1r wrote:
    if you think that d4 heads are multiplying, then why would you have a prob with that? focking knacks these days, they're actually breeding! the city is being ruined by northsiders, a well must be built over the liffey!

    because you pretentious southsiders are ridiculous people. im a northsider and im not poor not a knacker and neither are my friends. i played a match in the southside and was lucky to get out alive.the knack thing is not restricted to the northside and most people on the northside arent knacks. portmarnock malahide clontarf and castleknock are all on the northside and we dont exactly live in council estates. the books are really funny but he's ripping the piss and by accident created a god who only morons look up to. p.s dubes are the ugliest shoes on the planet and who wears shoes with tracksuitbottoms!?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,479 ✭✭✭Volvoboy


    Never really read any of his books bit what i can gather its a typical NS/SS debate ,

    Ns- Knackers
    Ss- Poshies


    Simple truth of it is we never picked this haterid of the ns/ss debate from the ground we all have, rivals in this world, Dublin vs Cork, Ireland Vs UK, Rest of the world Vs America.

    My view on this very old debate is this, i have never known any rugger buggers or dubie girls, but i know they exsist from the diffrent media
    This book and the fm104 phone show, which most people belive as gospel simple fact is there are nice people in rough estates and rough people in nice estates, and snobby people in rough estates and nice ones.

    I'm from the Northside and grew up in Donaghmede and am now living and working near Darndale and was schooled with people from Darndale and i have never had a bit of trouble and i'm no Knacker.

    There are all diffrent people living all over world, so just because someone is from Iraq and has a beard dosen't mean he is a terrorist.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 286 ✭✭dr zoidberg


    Yeah of course that's true. That's actually the point of RO'CK, the creator of the character is taking the piss out of the whole NS/SS debate. The problem starts when people take it seriously.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,193 ✭✭✭[Jackass]


    I'm from D4 and it's all true! It's exactly as it is....but most of you are knacks anyway who love the book because it gives you ammo to slag the people you begrudge...but i'm above all that, I have money, a trust fund and a ****ing massive inheritance coming my way...haha! The jokes on you! Lottery of life my friends!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,616 ✭✭✭raheny red


    DubGuy

    I'm from D4 and it's all true! It's exactly as it is....but most of you are knacks anyway who love the book because it gives you ammo to slag the people you begrudge...but i'm above all that, I have money, a trust fund and a ****ing massive inheritance coming my way...haha! The jokes on you! Lottery of life my friends!




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  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 10,686 Mod ✭✭✭✭melekalikimaka


    DubGuy wrote:
    I'm from D4 and it's all true! It's exactly as it is....but most of you are knacks anyway who love the book because it gives you ammo to slag the people you begrudge...but i'm above all that, I have money, a trust fund and a ****ing massive inheritance coming my way...haha! The jokes on you! Lottery of life my friends!

    you fool, you can't let on it's real... only will they remain in poverty if they remain ignorant...tisk*


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,663 CMod ✭✭✭✭faceman


    DubGuy wrote:
    I'm from D4 and it's all true! It's exactly as it is....but most of you are knacks anyway who love the book because it gives you ammo to slag the people you begrudge...but i'm above all that, I have money, a trust fund and a ****ing massive inheritance coming my way...haha! The jokes on you! Lottery of life my friends!

    LOL Billy No Mates


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,248 ✭✭✭4Xcut


    Zebra3 wrote:
    The books are class.

    Imo he's ripping the piss out of snobbish southsiders as it's seen through their eyes.

    They are funny for a bit. Read one and its ok Read two and its just about bareable, read more and you'll hate them. Its just the same joke again and again. Oh look he spelled it ROYSH instead of right for the one thousand two hundred and thirty third FU*KING time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!On second thoughts there crap!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!oneoneoneoneone1111111111111111


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭Rb


    4Xcut wrote:
    They are funny for a bit. Read one and its ok Read two and its just about bareable, read more and you'll hate them.

    I've read all of them and don't hate them, so you're wrong there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,520 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    the books are brilliant. not supposed to be a factual work, just hillarious


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5 d42dcore


    okay first and fore most anybody that slags of dubes are just pathetic. Why would you bother slagging off shoes that look good even with tracksuit bottoms and are really comfy?

    the idea is you grow up and go to school with a certain clique who eventually devise their own culture. i happen to have grown up in Dalkey/Donnybrook(my parents are divorced) so i happen to wear dubes, fat man pants, go to mount anville, and love abercrombie and fitch and everything else you slag off. if i happened to be born in the ns maybe i would of been wearing tracksuits (namely velour) but i was not. so there you have it dont slag me just because of where i was brought up cause i dont know many south siders that bother to slag ns, we're just not bothered. and yes by the way i am proud to be a ss.just likeyour probably proud of being an ns.

    i'd much rather be a a d4 head than a skobe, a knack or a ska.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 286 ✭✭dr zoidberg


    d42dcore wrote:
    i'd much rather be a a d4 head than a skobe, a knack or a ska.
    So, you are implying that if you're not a D4 head you must be a skobe, knacker or skanger.:rolleyes:


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