Gary Glitter

Binomate

http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30200-13465410,00.html

Probably the least intelligent child rapist in the world?

You'd think his common sense would tell him not to have sex with a child in a country where the penalty for doing so is facing a firing squad.

AARRRGH

Well, innocent until proven guilty! But I would imagine he's not very innocent

danniemcq

is this more proof our "system" doesn't work?

^CwAzY^

He deserves death, he obviously hasn't learned that it's wrong yet and unless he's locked up until the day he dies or executed, more children are going to suffer

AARRRGH

^CwAzY^ wrote:

He deserves death, he obviously hasn't learned that it's wrong yet and unless he's locked up until the day he dies or executed, more children are going to suffer

Death? I dunno. I think that's a bit harsh.

I think he is mentally ill rather than a criminal. He needs help...

monkeyfudge

I had to listen to some of his music when I was younger.

Does that count as child abuse as well?

Binomate

^CwAzY^ wrote:

He deserves death, he obviously hasn't learned that it's wrong yet and unless he's locked up until the day he dies or executed, more children are going to suffer

Pedophiles don't learn, it's a mental illness.

^CwAzY^

lol reminds me of that episode of Law & Order about the racist white guy who murdered a negro and his lawyer tries to get him off on insanity charges because he believed racism was a "mental illness".. Needless to say he was laughed out of the courtroom.. In my opinion there are too many crimes falling under "mental illness" nowadays.. Next we'll be saying all rapists are mentally ill and shouldn't be tried as criminals..

ShiverinEskimo

Being sexually aroused by young girls may be a mental illness - doing something about it while knowing right well its illegal aint.

aidan_dunne

dublindude wrote:

I think he is mentally ill rather than a criminal. He needs help...

Oh he's "sick" alright, but not in what I would call a "mentally ill" sense of the word! :mad: And I agree with you that he needs help......... being strapped into an electric chair, imo! :mad:

He's been caught with child porn on his computer already...... a hanging offence straight away in my book. Then he moves to countries which have obvious histories of child prostitution, child sex trafficking, etc. I mean, it's obvious he's not going there to soak in the local culture now, is he? :rolleyes: It's almost like he's broadcasting his intentions to the world by travelling to these places and he doesn't care what people think. I mean, how blatant and in your face is that! If the child porn wasn't enough to deserve him being hung, drawn and quartered in the first place, then all this carry-on most definitely is!

I'm sorry, but the whole "he's mentally ill and needs help" argument doesn't wash with me here whatsoever. He's nothing but a f**king sick pervert ba$tard, full stop, and deserves to be sent straight to hell. :mad:

Sorry if that sounds harsh but I can't stand that kind of sick shít, it turns my bloody stomach!

Binomate

aidan_dunne wrote:

Oh he's "sick" alright, but not in what I would call a "mentally ill" sense of the word! :mad: And I agree with you that he needs help......... being strapped into an electric chair, imo! :mad:

He's been caught with child porn on his computer already...... a hanging offence straight away in my book. Then he moves to countries which have obvious histories of child prostitution, child sex trafficking, etc. I mean, it's obvious he's not going there to soak in the local culture now, is he? :rolleyes: It's almost like he's broadcasting his intentions to the world by travelling to these places and he doesn't care what people think. I mean, how blatant and in your face is that! If the child porn wasn't enough to deserve him being hung, drawn and quartered in the first place, then all this carry-on most definitely is!

I'm sorry, but the whole "he's mentally ill and needs help" argument doesn't wash with me here whatsoever. He's nothing but a f**king sick pervert ba$tard, full stop, and deserves to be sent straight to hell. :mad:

Sorry if that sounds harsh but I can't stand that kind of sick shít, it turns my bloody stomach!

You forgot to mention that he was detained while trying to leave the country. I think it's quite safe to predict the outcome of the triall, however he is innocent untill proven guilty.

Kernel

Binomate wrote:

Pedophiles don't learn, it's a mental illness.

Says the guy with the Michael Jackon sig! :v:

Anyway, shoot him, he's no use to anyone.

mad m

Ready, take aim.......

AARRRGH

OK but people who rob banks do it because they are desperate or greedy.

People who **** kids are just ****ed up. No "normal" person can do that. Lots of "normal" people could rob a bank.

I even think I could kill someone in certain circumstances, but I'd never be able to **** a kid.

I think it's different.

MrJoeSoap

Two strikes you're out.

Binomate

Kernel wrote:

Says the guy with the Michael Jackon sig!

Anyway, shoot him, he's no use to anyone.

There is absolutly no correlation between Michael Jackson and pedophelia, other than that he was accused of being one and found not guilty.

^CwAzY^

dublindude wrote:

People who **** kids are just ****ed up.

I'm glad someone put it bluntly.. "child abuse" doesn't even sound offensive any more.. what the man did was **** kids.. there's no 2 ways about it..

Mossy Monk

he is a dirty ****er who will never learn. throw him in a jail cell and leave him there

aidan_dunne

MrJoeSoap wrote:

Two strikes you're out.

Sorry, it should be "one strike and you're out" in my opinion when it comes to this kind of sick shít! He was caught with child porn on his computer, that should have been enough to have him hung (if only they still had the death penalty in England). Or, at the very least because there's no death penalty, jailed for life and never, EVER released (let the other prisoners sort him out then! ). I can only hope that this time he'll get what he truely deserves.......... a bullet in the head! :mad:

As I said before, I know it sounds harsh but I have zero tolerance for perverts like this.

Binomate

aidan_dunne wrote:

Sorry, it should be "one strike and you're out" in my opinion when it comes to this kind of sick shít! He was caught with child porn on his computer, that should have been enough to have him hung (if only they still had the death penalty in England). Or, at the very least because there's no death penalty, jailed for life and never, EVER released (let the other prisoners sort him out then! ). I can only hope that this time he'll get what he truely deserves.......... a bullet in the head! :mad:

As I said before, I know it sounds harsh but I have zero tolerance for perverts like this.

Doesn't anyone find anything moraly wrong about killing someone these days? The death penalty is never the answer. Jail him for life if he's guilty.

AARRRGH

Nah, you gotta give people a chance.

No one chooses to be a paedophile. He's just ****ed in the head.

He needs help. Killing him will just make other paedophiles much more secretive.

I think if paedophiles were told it's not their fault and there is help available, we'd be able to sort out some of their problems, and possibly save a few kids. Stricter jail terms/fear of death has never really cured anything.

mad m

Dont know about the rest of you all but even reading posts with the 4stars kids is a a little disturbing to me now.....

MrJoeSoap

Ah yeah, I'm no fan of the death penalty but life in prison should be mandatory.

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Eoin

Interestingly enough, this story is linked to from the Gary Glitter story:

Teacher Spared Prison

A female teacher dubbed "too pretty for jail" has avoided prison after pleading guilty to having sex with a 14-year-old student.

Debra Lafave will instead serve three years of house arrest after a plea bargain was agreed.

John Fitzgibbons had argued at previous hearings that the blonde teacher would not survive jail and that imprisoning her would have been like "putting a piece of raw meat in with the lions".

The Florida teacher pleaded guilty to two counts of lewd and lascivious battery.

The 25-year-old told the court: "I accept full responsibility for my actions, and I'm very sorry for what occurred."

She could have faced up to 30 years in jail if the case had gone to trial next month.

Mr Fitzgibbons had said Lafave had planned to plead insanity at her trial, claiming that emotional stress kept her from knowing right from wrong.

Is there any difference between the crimes (alleged or not)?

danniemcq wrote:

is this more proof our "system" doesn't work?

How do you mean? As far as I know, he was never subject to any investigations or anything over here?

AARRRGH

eoin s I hate to say it but there is a difference between an old woman screwing a young lad and an older man screwing a young girl.

I know when I was 13 I'd have shagged that American female teacher no problem!!!

LOL...

Edit: this is her http://wizbangblog.com/images/lafave_debra_bike3.jpg

Binomate

dublindude wrote:

eoin s I hate to say it but there is a difference between an old woman screwing a young lad and an older man screwing a young girl.

I know when I was 13 I'd have shagged that American female teacher no problem!!!

LOL...

Edit: this is her http://wizbangblog.com/images/lafave_debra_bike3.jpg

I wouldn't have said no either!

MrJoeSoap

dublindude wrote:

eoin s I hate to say it but there is a difference between an old woman screwing a young lad and an older man screwing a young girl.

In the law there shouldn't be a difference.

Eoin

dublindude wrote:

eoin s I hate to say it but there is a difference between an old woman screwing a young lad and an older man screwing a young girl.

I know when I was 13 I'd have shagged that American female teacher no problem!!!

LOL...

Edit: this is her http://wizbangblog.com/images/lafave_debra_bike3.jpg

I know what you're saying, and I would have definitely gone there given half a chance at that age (or this age actually), I just thought it was interesting to see the double standards in these cases.
Eoin.

aidan_dunne

Binomate wrote:

Doesn't anyone find anything moraly wrong about killing someone these days? The death penalty is never the answer.

Well, we'll have to agree to disagree there then, I'm afraid. For things like rape or child abuse/child molestation, I wouldn't have any qualms whatsoever about the death penalty. It's something I feel very, very strongly about.

I'm not a father myself but if anyone ever did anything like molest or rape my little niece, for example, I would take the law into my own hands and kill the f**ker myself. A life sentence just wouldn't be justice enough for me, the sick ba$tard deserves to die, by my own hand if necessary. And, yes, I would be prepared to accept the consequences of my actions afterwards. That's how strongly I feel on this issue. Does it make me sound like a bad person? Maybe so, but I don't care. The simple fact is YOU DON'T ABUSE KIDS, full stop! If you do, you deserve to die.

AARRRGH

MrJoeSoap wrote:

In the law there shouldn't be a difference.

Yes, I agree.

I do think there is a difference though. Young lads (13+) are generally less sensitive about sex than young girls.

Of course, I know this is a generalisation, but in general...

AARRRGH

eoin_s wrote:

I know what you're saying, and I would have definitely gone there given half a chance at that age (or this age actually), I just thought it was interesting to see the double standards in these cases.
Eoin.

Yup. You had a totally fair point and I agree it is wrong to have double standards like that.

Binomate

MrJoeSoap wrote:

In the law there shouldn't be a difference.

Well if the young lad was willing then surely it would go down as statutory rape. If she raped or moleste him then she deserves a long jail sentance. Either way she is mentaly ill.

MrJoeSoap

dublindude wrote:

I do think there is a difference though. Young lads (13+) are generally less sensitive about sex than young girls.

Of course, I know this is a generalisation, but in general...

Wow! Three different versions of "general" in two sentences! I do agree with your point completely though.

AARRRGH

MrJoeSoap wrote:

Wow! Three different versions of "general" in two sentences! I do agree with your point completely though.

LOL

Sorry... Well spotted

the_syco

He should be shot. He goes to a country where he hopes the police are too dumb to spot him, but they do, and they're going to shoot him for it.

As for the woman shagging the boy, she should be locked away too, as this sends a clear message out: if you're a woman, and you shag an underage male, you won't goto jail. And this will terrify alot of the abused.

ShiverinEskimo

the law usually is sexist - the old one about how if a gal sunbathes naked in her back garden and is seen by her male neighbour from an upstairs window he is a peeping tom - if a guy sunbathes in his back yard and his female neighbour sees him from an upstairs window he is done for indecent exposure...

Perhaps the death sentence is not the problem - removing his gentialia/prostate would suffice.

Kernel

Binomate wrote:

There is absolutly no correlation between Michael Jackson and pedophelia, other than that he was accused of being one and found not guilty.

Yeah, of course... nudge nudge

besty

^CwAzY^ wrote:

lol reminds me of that episode of Law & Order about the racist white guy who murdered a negro and his lawyer tries to get him off on insanity charges because he believed racism was a "mental illness".. Needless to say he was laughed out of the courtroom.. In my opinion there are too many crimes falling under "mental illness" nowadays.. Next we'll be saying all rapists are mentally ill and shouldn't be tried as criminals..

insanity is a legal concept when being examined in a criminal context, not a medical one.

Willymuncher

Binomate wrote:

Pedophiles don't learn, it's a mental illness.

I don't agree that its a mental illness, for me its purely a sexual preference, he obviously likes this kind of thing....so what defines it as an illness? because its wrong? there are people out there who like all kinds of different things when it comes to sex, some as weird as fcuk....I don't think this is any different, its something these people are into, and are obviously turned on by it. Defining it as an illness just seems to play down what these kind of people do to innocent kids....I think he should be fully punished for his actions (if he did do it).

The Song Thrush

I'd have to agree that people see a difference between an older woman screwing a young lad and an older man screwing a young girl.

When the story of that blonde American teacher was posted here, all the men of boards were like "Phwoaar! I'd have let her abuse me when I was 13!" but in this case it's an etirely different reaction.

Dave!

hehe... I wish I had something to post that in response to Ah well, just revel in it...

holly_johnson

The amazing thing I find about all of this, is the creep was only caught in the first place because he left his pc into PC World for repair, and the technician found the "stuff" on his hard drive!

God knows how many kids he would have affected in England if he'd not been caught! The government in Cambodia was just as bad, Cambodia only deported him because of media pressure exposing the child sex trade there, I'm surprised he was let in at all with a criminal record. At least Vietnam are trying to do something about it, which should be encouraged.

Total scumbag, bullets are too quick in my opinion.
He should be ****ed up the arse with a barbed whale harpoon. But then again, he might enjoy that.

Pigman II

MrJoeSoap wrote:

Ah yeah, I'm no fan of the death penalty but life in prison should be mandatory.

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Life in prison for a nonce would probably be worse than a death sentence.

dublindude wrote:

eoin s I hate to say it but there is a difference between an old woman screwing a young lad and an older man screwing a young girl.

I know when I was 13 I'd have shagged that American female teacher no problem!!!

Yeah but it's not 'about' you (the young person). It's about what the other person (adult) did.

pickarooney

Did anyone actually read the article? He was 'involved' in 'some lewd act' with a 'girl under 18'.
Hands up who hasn't engaged in such a hanging offence?

Pigman II

pickarooney wrote:

Did anyone actually read the article? He was 'involved' in 'some lewd act' with a 'girl under 18'.
Hands up who hasn't engaged in such a hanging offence?

and before you ask that question be sure to tack on 'when you were 61 years old'

holly_johnson

The legal age of consent is 18 in Vietnam, therefore it is statutory rape. Also, one of the girls is reported to be 12. 12!!!

That in my opinion, is most definitely a "lewd act".

pickarooney

I'm fairly sure they were very young, it's just that on the basis of the article there's little grounds for requesting a hangin'

and before you ask that question be sure to tack on 'when you were 61 years old'

We should be so lucky? :O

ferdi

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HelterSkelter

dublindude wrote:

Nah, you gotta give people a chance.

No one chooses to be a paedophile. He's just ****ed in the head.

He needs help. Killing him will just make other paedophiles much more secretive.

I think if paedophiles were told it's not their fault and there is help available, we'd be able to sort out some of their problems, and possibly save a few kids. Stricter jail terms/fear of death has never really cured anything.

What a crock of shít. It sounds like you feel sorry for him. They should cut off his balls, that's the only thing that will stop him.

OLDYELLAR

death would be too easy a punishment for him.
But yea why not paedophiles are the lowest of the low , there a danger to kids .Life imprisonment doesnt mean life imprisonment so most likely if he did get out we`d be reading about him abusing some other kid a few years down the line.

whiskeyman

I dont know where the fire-squad verdict keeps coming into play.
I was listening to the first reports a week or so ago about this on BBC radio, and the interviewee mentioned that a Thai Government mininister was convicted of a similar crime around a year ago and got 8 years... and the heaviest crime is 20 years for sex with a minor.
Varies reports say he paid them for sex, but the police wont confirm this... if it's true they were child protitutes, he'll only get a custodial sentance.
It's child-rape thats punishable by firing-squad.