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I was offered a job in Ireland, should I go?

  • 17-11-2005 2:14pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 2


    Hi,
    I am a young Polish guy who was offered a job in Ireland. I am to work for Xtra Vision company which I was told has like over 200 stores througout Ireland and is owned by Viacom and Blocbuster. Well could perhaps write some comments on that company (if you are faimiliar with it at all). Also I'd like to hear something general about accomodation in Ireland - is it easy to find? prices etc. I am woried that the money they offer me (about 16 000 EUR) will not allow me for much.....Also are there regions, places in Ireland I should rather try to avoid in terms of relocating myself there. Supposedly I will be able to choose where to go.

    Pawel


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,783 ✭✭✭Binomate


    Pawel wrote:
    Hi,
    I am a young Polish guy who was offered a job in Ireland. I am to work for Xtra Vision company which I was told has like over 200 stores througout Ireland and is owned by Viacom and Blocbuster. Well could perhaps write some comments on that company (if you are faimiliar with it at all). Also I'd like to hear something general about accomodation in Ireland - is it easy to find? prices etc. I am woried that the money they offer me (about 16 000 EUR) will not allow me for much.....Also are there regions, places in Ireland I should rather try to avoid in terms of relocating myself there. Supposedly I will be able to choose where to go.

    Pawel
    [D4 accent]Roish, anywhere on the north soide is a kip.[/D4 accent]


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,154 ✭✭✭Oriel


    You'll find €16000 hard to live on.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 126 ✭✭soph


    hi, where abouts in ireland will your job be? how much does 16,000 work out a week for you?
    accomodation is very expensive in cities, but besides that it is reasonably cheap!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,928 ✭✭✭✭rainbow kirby


    16000 euro a year isn't that much to live on. That's not that much more than minimum wage, if you're going to be working full-time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,117 ✭✭✭✭MrJoeSoap


    X-tra Vision is basically a movie rental shop, where you will most likely be working behind a cash register, getting video's and DVD's for people and putting video's and DVD's back on shelves. Not exactly inspirational work.

    €16,000 per annum is a fairly poor salary if it is to be full-time work.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,388 ✭✭✭Kernel


    soph wrote:
    hi, where abouts in ireland will your job be? how much does 16,000 work out a week for you?
    accomodation is very expensive in cities, but besides that it is reasonably cheap!

    I'm no poindexter, but I'd say dividing 16000 by 52 will give you your answer.
    :v:

    And you think Ireland is reasonably cheap?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,429 ✭✭✭testicle


    It's just above minimum wage. Which would be a fair amount of money for the work involved.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,216 ✭✭✭✭monkeyfudge


    Is it any particular branch of Xtra-Vision?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,117 ✭✭✭✭MrJoeSoap


    €16k/52 = €307

    €307/40 = Minimum wage (or as good as).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,829 ✭✭✭JackieChan


    My rough estimates say that after tax you'll have just over 1200/mth.

    It would be good if you could locate somewhere where there are some Polish people. I'm not saying to segregate yourself but its always nice to have someone of your own country to chat to. I'd say stay clear of the cities as rent will be far cheaper outside of them.

    Best of Luck


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,915 ✭✭✭Siogfinsceal


    Hi Pawel,

    Its a video rental store. The works easy enough (serving customers, getting dvds etc). Its not great money but how does it compare to what your getting now? Its very expensive to live in Dublin but outside of the capital its easier. if you found somewhere to live with other people your rent would not be too bad. Too find out how much rent will cost etc try www.daft.ie its a site with rooms and houses to rent it will give you an idea of costs. My friend works in a factory and manages about 100 workers mostly from Poland and Estonia so if you didnt like extra vision you could find a new job in a different company. You have good english so that is a great help.
    I know a few polish people who work here and they like the country as they say it is like poland


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,915 ✭✭✭Siogfinsceal


    Kernal dividing 16000 by 52 will only give you the before tax amount what he will earn will depend on tax es and whether he will get emergency tax or a rent allowance etc

    but I agree with you - ireland is not cheap especially not near dublin


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,388 ✭✭✭Kernel


    I'd advise work in the construction industry.

    If you have a trade (bricklayer, plumber, carpenter, electrician etc), you can easily make some nice money in Ireland.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,915 ✭✭✭Siogfinsceal


    Yes Kernel is right thats a great idea especially in the summer when th eweather is nice. There is excellent money in construction and so much of it going on at the moment


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,117 ✭✭✭✭MrJoeSoap


    especially in the summer when the weather is nice.
    :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,850 ✭✭✭Cianos


    Ive worked in Xtravision for over a year. It was a grand job, very easy. But also can get quite boring. You could always get a job in Xtravision and immediately start looking for other work. It all depends on what your situation currently is I suppose.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 556 ✭✭✭JimmySmith


    Given the recent media coverage of abuse of Polish workers here it would be interesting to find out how much an Irish person doing the same job gets paid before you make your decision.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,323 ✭✭✭Hitchhiker's Guide to...


    That story about abuse of Polish workers was from the Polish version of Newsweek as was widely disagreed with by Polish people working here.

    Are you sure you're not thinking about the Turkish workers in Gama. Polish workers obviously don't need a visa and thus there is unlikely to be any discrimination.

    Seriously don't think that a company of Xtravision's stature would discriminate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,264 ✭✭✭✭Hobbes


    Its minimum wage, as already explained and will not go very far at all. However you have to factor in a few things.

    The move to here. How much is that going to cost? How much time/money will be involved in finding a place to stay? Dealing with the Tax people? How will the minimum wage cripple you later on? (will you be able to move back to Poland if you have to?).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,148 ✭✭✭The General


    Xtra Vision pay €7.92 per hour to part time staff, thats in Carlow anyways


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 126 ✭✭soph


    Kernel wrote:
    I'm no poindexter, but I'd say dividing 16000 by 52 will give you your answer.
    :v:

    And you think Ireland is reasonably cheap?


    i said anywhere OUTSIDE cities is reasonably cheap to rent accomodation, which it is !!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,278 ✭✭✭kenmc


    I believe that Kildare town has a lot of Polish nationals living there. Don't know much about life in Kildare though to be honest.
    As for xtravision I don't know about working in it. I'd imagine it's fairly mindnumbing work.
    Pro: not very early starts - think they usually open around 11 or so. close around 10 or 11. Con: may have to work wierd hours.
    Pro: Get to see basically ever single movie in the store for free. Con: multiple times if they're being played instore.
    If you're frugal, prepared to live in basic accomodation, you will be able to make money. You may also be able to get a second job if you have regular hours in Xtravision. Unfortunately no-one here can decide for you I'm afraid. Good luck with your decision, welcome to Ireland if you decide to go for it, and hopefully things will work out either way...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,278 ✭✭✭kenmc


    soph wrote:
    i said anywhere OUTSIDE cities is reasonably cheap to rent accomodation, which it is !!
    But you would be hard pushed to find a Xtravision in Ballygobackwards though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 398 ✭✭Hydroquinone


    There's an Xtravsion shop in every county in Ireland except Leitrim.
    That's today's useless piece of information from me!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,278 ✭✭✭kenmc


    There's an Xtravsion shop in every county in Ireland except Leitrim.
    I rest my case :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,001 ✭✭✭✭Flukey


    You could come over for a trial period, say about 3 months, and see how things go. €16,000 is not a lot to live on, but while here you may be able to find a better job.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 242 ✭✭bungeecork


    Welcome Dude - but just read this thread about buses in Dublin before you catch one.
    :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 717 ✭✭✭Mucco


    Net weekly take home pay = € 293.73386
    Net monthly take home pay = € 1272.8467
    Net annual take home pay = €15274.16


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,805 ✭✭✭Setun


    Pawel wrote:
    which I was told has like over 200 stores througout Ireland...

    You'll fit right in.

    I'd check any other options you have before committing to Xtra-Vis. Somebody said construction already, you could make a LOAD:eek: out of that. My rural lifestyle is being turned into Donald Trump's backyard as I type.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,064 ✭✭✭Gurgle


    Short answer:
    You should come out with ~€1000 per month.

    If you take a job in a country town, you'll be shelling out €300 to €600 per month to rent a flat.

    Less for a room in a house.

    In Dublin, you're talking probably more than you earn for somewhere live-able in.

    If you have €100 pw to live on after rent, you can get by but you won't be living the high life. Say about €40 for food, leaves €60 for everything else. If you smoke, quit.

    If you plan to move on from Xtravision, work is fairly easy to get but its difficult to get much more than minimum wage unless:

    a) You have qualifications or experience
    b) You're willing to do hard manual work
    -or-
    c) You don't mind taking your life in your hands on a daily basis (courier).

    Best of luck!

    - edit - oh yeah:
    DO NOT work in Xtravision in Dublin.
    You'll probably be robbed, possibly stabbed or shot.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,531 ✭✭✭jonny68


    sinecurea wrote:
    You'll find €16000 hard to live on.


    There are people who earn considerably less and live alright,€1,000 for that job isnt bad.

    Polish Guy yeah come over here why not,you'lll be made welcome there are plenty of Polish people here already but not nearly enough of Polish birds who wipe the floor with Irish birds:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,061 ✭✭✭✭Terry


    Gurgle wrote:
    If you have €100 pw to live on after rent, you can get by but you won't be living the high life. Say about €40 for food, leaves €60 for everything else. If you smoke, quit.
    where are you shopping?
    i spend about €80 per week on food and i live alone.
    gurgle wrote:
    - edit - oh yeah:
    DO NOT work in Xtravision in Dublin.
    You'll probably be robbed, possibly stabbed or shot.
    it's funny 'cos it's true.
    Kernel wrote:
    I'd advise work in the construction industry.

    If you have a trade (bricklayer, plumber, carpenter, electrician etc), you can easily make some nice money in Ireland.
    poles are paid considerably less than Irish people on some sites. don't work for less than €13/hour on a site.
    the last time i checked that was the minimum wage for general labourers.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,807 ✭✭✭chump


    You'll be taking home guts of 300euro a week.
    100euro a week on rent, even in dublin you'd get this in a house-share...
    50euro on bills
    So 150 a euro a week on food and living... easily done!
    You'd have a great time, any Poles I've spoken to really like it over here...

    And I've known a few lads who've worked in Xtravision, and a few in chartbusters, and tis an easy job and conditions were pretty good. Ignore the nonsense-talk about being mugged/stabbed/shot etc...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,048 ✭✭✭Amazotheamazing


    Think you'll live easily enough on 16,000. It won't be luxury but you wouldn't be homeless either. There is big Polish communities in Dublin, Cork and Limerick so you wouldn't be in a completely new environment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,061 ✭✭✭✭Terry


    yeah, you'll find a lot of polish people here, but don't limit yourself to socialising with just polish peoiple. we don't want to start a ghetto type thing here. mix with Irish people too. we don't bite.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 255 ✭✭ratboy


    no, it's a ****hole.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,558 ✭✭✭netwhizkid


    16grand a year :D that's expoitation if i ever saw it. Ireland is a great country but to be honest, 16g's is toilet paper. We are a very upclass country and we don't really like doing crappy jobs, we instead get super high paid jobs and spend our time posting on internet forums. Btw if you don't have good english forget it. There is nothing worse than getting a big mac with the wrong dressing because they simply couldn't understnd what your saying. Imagine if their was an Extra Vision mix-up and some one got prawns instead of Walt Disney :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,061 ✭✭✭✭Terry


    don't bother applying to either oof the xtra-vision's in Leixlip. it's far too expensive in this hole of a town. unless you're willing to work a second job that is.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2 Pawel


    Hey,
    Thank You all very, very much. You have been of great help, really!
    I am supposed to see Extra Vision rep this comming Monday so I'll let you know how it all ends for me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,872 ✭✭✭segadreamcast


    Best of luck Pawel, hope it all goes well for you. Cead mile failte and all that.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,316 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    [q
    Xtra Vision pay €7.92 per hour to part time staff, thats in Carlow anyways
    16,000 / 52 (weeks) = 307.69 / 39 (hours) = €7.88 The standerd working week in Ireland is 39 hours.

    After tax, that €307 will proberly be about €290. €290 * 4 weeks = €1160 You can rent a room for about €250 in most towns in the coutryside (Naas, Carlow, etc). If your looking for a place to stay, I'd advise you to look at www.daft.ie to find a place to stay.

    If you get a job in Dublins city centre, move to a town on the outskirts of Dublin, and commute. Commuting will cost €17 for a 5 day "Rambler" bus ticket, with Dublin Bus (for more info, look @ www.dublinbus.ie). You should be able to rent a room there for about €90 a week, leaving €200 to spend on drink, ciggerattes, and if you eat, food:p
    Also, we have Lidl and Aldi over here, where you can buy food and drink cheaply.
    julep wrote:
    don't bother applying to either oof the xtra-vision's in Leixlip. it's far too expensive in this hole of a town. unless you're willing to work a second job that is.
    You live up the Captains Hill, don't you? I agree; up the hill is a hole. Everywhere else in Lexilip, the rent is about €280 a month to rent a room, and is a nice place to live in.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,064 ✭✭✭Gurgle


    julep wrote:
    where are you shopping?
    i spend about €80 per week on food and i live alone.
    But you could live for less
    I used to spend £10 per week on food when I was in college :D
    Even with 10 years worth of inflation, you could still get by on €40 if you're reasonably pennywise.

    4 in my house (including 2 kids) & we spend about €120 per week, and thats including chocolate, beer, wine, nappies and dog food.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,382 ✭✭✭✭AARRRGH


    Gurgle wrote:
    DO NOT work in Xtravision in Dublin.
    You'll probably be robbed, possibly stabbed or shot.

    FFS, and just where did you dig up this piece of bull****?

    Ireland is a very safe country compared to the vast majority of the world.

    Back OT -

    You'll be able to survive on that salary. Look for another job while here.

    As someone else said, try labouring on building sites. It can pay €15 an hour.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 67 ✭✭Kobayashi


    Naas and Newbridge in Co Kildare have large Polish communities as well, know quite a few myself. Might be an option as they have xtravisions there and is cheaper than Dublin.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,618 ✭✭✭Civilian_Target


    Believe it or not, as a single guy €16,000 is more than sufficient to live anywhere in Ireland.
    There's pretty much no tax on that wage, you take home over €1300 a month

    Check out www.daft.ie for accommodation, there's loads of poles living in North Central Dublin and North West Dublin, so you should be grand!

    As far as money goes:
    Income after tax: €1300
    Rent (house share): €400
    Bills & Phone: €100
    Transport: €80
    Food: €420

    which leaves you about €300 a month for clothes and entertainment, easily possible....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 242 ✭✭bungeecork


    OP - do you mean that Xtravision are in Poland recruiting? :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,558 ✭✭✭netwhizkid


    bungeecork wrote:
    OP - do you mean that Xtravision are in Poland recruiting?
    Check this out Not only are extra vision recruiting in Poland, but so are hundreds of other irish private enterprises. Irish ferries will lead the way, where hundreds of Irish are sacked and replaced with lower paid polish and other nationalaties. The Government and the PDs drive rhetoric can be thanked for this thundering disgrace, The people voted no to nice, what does traitor ahern do, he holds another referendum. Democracy, :confused: Democracy more like benevelont dictatorship.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,872 ✭✭✭segadreamcast


    netwhizkid wrote:
    Check this out Not only are extra vision recruiting in Poland, but so are hundreds of other irish private enterprises. Irish ferries will lead the way, where hundreds of Irish are sacked and replaced with lower paid polish and other nationalaties. The Government and the PDs drive rhetoric can be thanked for this thundering disgrace, The people voted no to nice, what does traitor ahern do, he holds another referendum. Democracy, :confused: Democracy more like benevelont dictatorship.

    Jesus. Please netwhizkid, please, stop talking about politics from your perspective, you're embarrassing us (Ireland; boards.ie; Western Europe) in front of the Polish guy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,558 ✭✭✭netwhizkid


    I was just stating that if it wasn't for Mr. Ahern, this Polish guy probably couldn't come here, or if it wasn't for him thousands of Irish jobs wouldn't have been filled by over three hundred thousands foreigners. Like i am not against immigration but i am strongly in favour of limiting it and i believe that our labour market should be a closed shop and that immigrants should have to apply for permits to work here. anyway this is not the politics thread so if anyone else wants to make an issue of me or my politics please PM me or post on the political forum.

    PS. Pawel if do come to Ireland i wish you luck and success.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,061 ✭✭✭✭Terry


    Gurgle wrote:
    But you could live for less
    I used to spend £10 per week on food when I was in college :D
    Even with 10 years worth of inflation, you could still get by on €40 if you're reasonably pennywise.

    4 in my house (including 2 kids) & we spend about €120 per week, and thats including chocolate, beer, wine, nappies and dog food.
    it cheaper to buy in bulk, but i can't do that as the food tends to spoil. i've got to buy small amounts of food 2 or 3 times a week in order to keep it fresh.
    that's where the extra cost comes in. also, i don't like noodles. :D


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