Nonu home free!

Stretch*

It's a relief isn't it...you guys had better harden up and stop bleating when ever one of your team gets dumped...two alleged spear tackles and no official action to back up your allegations...and it's funny how no one in Ireland talks about D'arcys spear tackle on Rua Tipoki!!!!!!

NZ Herald 17/11/05

"Nonu let off dangerous tackle charge "

17.11.05 7.30am


All Blacks rugby centre Ma'a Nonu has escaped a dangerous tackle charge without further punishment.

International Rugby Board (IRB) judicial officer, Judge Wyn Williams QC, of Wales, today ruled that referee Jonathan Kaplan's decision to penalise Nonu at the time for his tackle on Ireland's Gordon D'Arcy during last Sunday's test in Dublin was sufficient punishment.

Nonu sat through a 90-minute hearing yesterday at London's Heathrow Airport, and Williams deferred his decision until 24 hours later.

Nonu was left out of the All Blacks squad for the test against England at Twickenham on Sunday but will be available for selection for the final tour match against Scotland a week later.

Liam90

good, it wasn't even dangerous, 100% the right choice, anything else would of been stupid

Snickers Man

Fair result.

I don't think it was a malicious tackle. It was reckless. He deserved to be penalised for it. And he was. But that's all.

TBH, I think he just had to go through the due process because of the failure of the authorities to deal properly with the much more serious incident earlier in the year.

daveirl

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Crash

Personally i think he should have been carded on the day for doing something stupid (note not malicious, just stupid) and none of this mess would've come about.

Stretch*

I agree, it should have happened in both instances, OK Nono is a young player and had a rush of blood, however Umaga has never had any reputation for dirty play and is normally a gentleman despite the appearance. It would have made this tour memortable for its rugby rather than its incident(s)

vorbis

definetly should have got a yellow card on the day, as usual a ref bottled it when dealing with the all blacks.

ARGINITE

Personally i think he should have been carded on the day for doing something stupid

Ya that all that he should have gotten, it did just seem like a rush of blood to the head.

ninetynine

Seems Kiwi memories are as short as their arms. Nonu was cited independently and Henry was just as critical as EOS was over the tackle.

However it was a dump rather than a spear and Nonu clearly pulled back from trying to harm D’Arcy. Kaplan’s handling was spot-on, the IRB looked at it – no case to answer.

Crash

i still believe whatever about citing, dangerous tackles (and that was, not malicious, but stupidly dangerous from the way he landed) should be carded on.

Trojan

Stretch* wrote:

you guys had better harden up and stop bleating when ever one of your team gets dumped...

I don't see any reason for people to avoid making an issue about potentially fatal tackles. Rugby is a hard, tough game, but not one where we try to kill each other. Dumping in that way is illegal, end of story.

Stretch* wrote:

two alleged spear tackles and no official action to back up your allegations...

Ah, so it's only "alleged" that Mealamu and Umaga spear tackled BOD. Right...

Stretch* wrote:

and it's funny how no one in Ireland talks about D'arcys spear tackle

It's funny how New Zealanders ignore the fact that we talked about it plenty.
It's funny how New Zealanders ignore a lot of facts.

Neither the current NZ team nor the NZ fans on this board have promoted their country in a positive way.

Stretch*

maybe if you came over for the lions tour, or better still make plans to visit us for the worldcup, you will see that the rugby and adventure capital of the world is a bit different to your current narrow perceptions

RuggieBear

Stretch* wrote:

maybe if you came over for the lions tour, or better still make plans to visit us for the worldcup, you will see that the rugby and adventure capital of the world is a bit different to your current narrow perceptions

HA!!
that's funny coming from an kiwi.

i've been to new zealand....narrow, one eye'ed and ignorantly xenophobic is how i'd describe most of my rugby conversations there....

Stretch*

more fool you for coming over here and seeking out the boozy boring rugby crowd. Get a life, get outdoors, jetboating, paraventing,skiing,rafting, kayaking...or can't you drag yourself away from your quiness...lol.

RuggieBear

Stretch* wrote:

more fool you for coming over here and seeking out the boozy boring rugby crowd. Get a life, get outdoors, jetboating, paraventing,skiing,rafting, kayaking...or can't you drag yourself away from your quiness...lol.

seriously wtf?

i did all the "activities" but rugby talk was constantly shoved down our throats.

more fool you for being so fucking presumptuous

daveirl

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gjim

Jeezus, even the English are models of modesty and sporting behaviour when victorious compared to New Zealanders. What a bunch of twats.

Stretch*

Get some balance dear chap. NZ..like Ireland..has a lot more to offer than just rugby.If you had taken the time to get outside of the rugby fanatics, you may have enjoyed yourself a lot more.

Amz

Ugh! Imigh as mo radhairc le do thoil?

... Amadán.

RuggieBear

ta mo cheann ag frithbhuaileadh....tbh.

Amz

Aye, tuigim.

Liam90

you should of gone to queenstown, that place is incredible!

daveirl

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RuggieBear

Liam90 wrote:

you should of gone to queenstown, that place is incredible!

been there, done that...got the tshirts (Nevis high wire, rocketboat thingies, etc)

Liam90

RuggieBear wrote:

been there, done that...got the tshirts (Nevis high wire, rocketboat thingies, etc)

....... and it was incredible

Stretch*

daveirl wrote:

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Behaviour breed behaviour, are you sure you weren't attracting abuse by your own actions, Kiwis are pretty laid back but give as good as they get if niggled.Also the booing at Twickenham...some of the most constant and poor sportmanship I can remember.

muletide

Stretch* wrote:

maybe if you came over for the lions tour, or better still make plans to visit us for the worldcup, you will see that the rugby and adventure capital of the world is a bit different to your current narrow perceptions

Now if only we could find a couple of pacific rim countries from whom we could rob all promising rugby players then we could bring a half decent team with us

Stretch*

muletide wrote:

Now if only we could find a couple of pacific rim countries from whom we could rob all promising rugby players then we could bring a half decent team with us

It's not quite that easy...remember you have to house them,educate them, and their families, support many of the extended family on your welfare system..give them citizenship ,they also take a fair bit of the police and judiciaries time. unforetunately it isn't as simple as it seems...The polynesians can also be very "lazy trainers" and it takes a different coaching and motivation style to get the best from them.

muletide

Stretch* wrote:

It's not quite that easy...remember you have to house them,educate them, and their families, support many of the extended family on your welfare system..give them citizenship ,they also take a fair bit of the police and judiciaries time. unforetunately it isn't as simple as it seems...The polynesians can also be very "lazy trainers" and it takes a different coaching and motivation style to get the best from them.

I cant believe you wrote that you make them sound like a household pet or circus animal. Racism definitely alive and well in this one.

Stretch*

muletide wrote:

I cant believe you wrote that you make them sound like a household pet or circus animal. Racism definitely alive and well in this one.

It's exactly the same as many of the immigrants to the UK...there are both positives and negatives..it's not just a South Pacific garden of Eden,with huge Polynesian rugby geniuses queing to play for NZ.
There are severe socio economic and racial problems in some parts of South Auckland,
If ,by highlighting the acknowledged problems caused by Polynesian drift to NZ and removing your rose coloured specs, makes me a racist..I suggest you need to find other taunts which are more accurate.

daveirl

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Stretch*

I can understand your comments, in Nz the Lions had such a massive build up by the Pommy press, then were such a pathetic let down on the field, that joe average kiwi rugby fan felt it was about time some of the crap and nonsense we had to stomach about the "Mighty Lions" got returned with interest! I'm sorry if you got mistaken for a Lions fan, I wouldn't like to be either.

Crash

You're an absolute tit. can you actually condone the actions towards Dave?

if you came over here and got the same treatment i wouldnt condone it either - but you're so full of ****.

daveirl

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Stretch*

daveirl wrote:

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The internet is great resource for Pommy newspapers..plus articles are reprinted thru AAP/Reuters etc...aren't modern communications fun.
As Lions supporters, I tended to class you all as one variety....I mean the POMs made up the bulk of the team and Sir Clive is a POM.
You guys are the same about the AB's...we are continually accused of poaching Pacific Island players, when they are in fact mostly born bred and educated Kiwis.

Crash

Actually when away i find i get really pissed off about being confused with being English. Patriotism while away from the shores i guess.

Funkstard

There was nothing wrong with the tackle at all, he shouldn't have even been cited

Stretch*

Funkstard wrote:

There was nothing wrong with the tackle at all, he shouldn't have even been cited

However, because of Irelands non inspired performance, an incident such as this acts as a diversion, and lets indignation and self rightousness replace informed comment.

Amz

Stretch I'm getting pretty fed up with you.

daveirl

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muletide

Ignore him dave he is getting a kick out of us rising to him

daveirl

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muletide

Do you reckon Trevor Hogan will get a run out on saturday

Amz

Stretch banned from Rugby for trolling.

muletide

Woo Hoo

Crash

Amz, if you were a woman i'd screw you for that.

Amz

I'll just have to use my imagination so.

*sigh*

Liam90

Amz wrote:

Stretch banned from Rugby for trolling.

so your banning someone for voiceing there opinion

thats bull****!

Amz

Oh get off the cross, someone else needs the wood.

Davei141

Well, Liam, im sure your the only one who will miss his "opinions". Good riddance.

Mungaman

Trojan wrote:

It's funny how New Zealanders ignore the fact that we talked about it plenty.
It's funny how New Zealanders ignore a lot of facts.

Neither the current NZ team nor the NZ fans on this board have promoted their country in a positive way.

Trojan what are you talking about??????????????????????????????????????

You're the one who is ignoring facts mate. I constantly apologised for the infamous tackle. As did the majority of New Zealanders. I offered the welcome to one and all to NZ for the World Cup. I also offered anyone who wants info on going down to NZ travel advise as well.
I remember the majority of people on this board getting into kiwis being arrogant and cheats. Your meant to be the moderator.

There were posts on this board which would do nothing to promote this country at all.
You want a fact trojan here's one
The anti New Zealand feeling is against everything that rugby stands for.
Here's another one stop bleating about New Zealand try and get your head round Ireland being in none too good shape.

Kiwi's aren't as bad as you keep craping on. If you have never heard of the tall poppy syndrome you wanna look it up. Jealousy is something that comes to mind at the moment. I'd love to see Ireland win another Triple Crown and even win a Six nations. Wheras you Trojan in you weak appreciation of sport want to plough into a country that has and will support Ireland v anyone

Get over it