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Mystery Box!

  • 14-11-2005 9:31pm
    #1
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 23,363 Mod ✭✭✭✭


    Hmmm, what's this? A box?

    amp1.jpg

    Eh, that's an interesting hole...

    amp2.jpg

    Really? I never would have known

    amp3.jpg

    OH, it's an amp. Cool!

    amp4.jpg


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Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,135 ✭✭✭✭John


    Turn that up to 11 and tell us how it sounds.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 23,363 Mod ✭✭✭✭feylya


    I was just playing it there earlier and I must admit, I am quite disappointed with the lack of gain but that's possibly cos of the tubes and breaking them in. I haven't had a chance to go over it properly yet.

    BTW, that arrived today. I ordered it on the 29th September...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,135 ✭✭✭✭John


    feylya wrote:
    I am quite disappointed with the lack of gain

    That's a pity. How much did it set you back?


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 23,363 Mod ✭✭✭✭feylya


    Less than it's being advertised for ;)

    http://www.thomann.de/thoiw6_artikel-178988.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,110 ✭✭✭sei046


    i was dying hiding your secret..... i like the way u took out supposodly :-)


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  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 23,363 Mod ✭✭✭✭feylya


    Secret? It was fairly fecking obvious in fairness :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,702 ✭✭✭bounty_hunter


    I was surprised!

    That the amp actually exists and wasn't just a giant tube-related conspiracy.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 23,363 Mod ✭✭✭✭feylya


    A giant tube eh? Interesting. I'm very very tempted to go and take the amp apart right now to see how it's made :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,110 ✭✭✭sei046


    sound clips or ya may just ban yourself and pm yourself in a month


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 23,363 Mod ✭✭✭✭feylya


    TBH, I won't get to play it again til Friday at the very very earliest. It'll probably be Sunday and I won't have broadband at that stage :(


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,702 ✭✭✭bounty_hunter


    feylya wrote:
    A giant tube eh? Interesting. I'm very very tempted to go and take the amp apart right now to see how it's made :p
    Luckily I foresaw this and had all implements of destruction removed from your house.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 23,363 Mod ✭✭✭✭feylya


    That's ok, I only need my screwdrivers...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,848 ✭✭✭✭Doctor J


    What date was it sent?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,034 ✭✭✭✭It wasn't me!


    It was kinda well known he was getting it to be honest... I likes it fey. Let us know how she sounds when you've had a chance to really kick her up. ;)


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 23,363 Mod ✭✭✭✭feylya


    It was originally sent on the 5th October and again on the 7th November. I'll have to check if the tubes are firmly seated actually. I know if I do it now, I won't go to bed.

    Edit: Hmm, now this is interesting. I took the grill off the back to have a look at the tubes and one of the 12ax7's has a metal cap around it. What's that for?

    And because Eoin Madsen will want to know, it's a variable bias amp with (I assume) external biasing points.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,130 ✭✭✭✭Karl Hungus


    Nice to see you nicked my format for uncovering new gear. :p

    Still, that looks like a nice amp.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,117 ✭✭✭Eoin Madsen


    feylya wrote:
    And because Eoin Madsen will want to know, it's a variable bias amp with (I assume) external biasing points.

    You know I only really ask to make people who haven't biased their valve amps uncomfortable. ;)


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 23,363 Mod ✭✭✭✭feylya


    Then you asked the wrong person :v:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 274 ✭✭Beastieboy


    You know I only really ask to make people who haven't biased their valve amps uncomfortable. ;)

    Sorry but for those of us who are ignorant (me) could you please explain, i'm thinking of getting a valve amp (Vox Ac30cc2x) soon, and seems relevent. I haven't a clue when it comes to the electronics of guitars....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,117 ✭✭✭Eoin Madsen


    The AC30 is cathode-biased so you should never have to worry about bias unless you get into modding.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,117 ✭✭✭Eoin Madsen


    feylya wrote:
    Then you asked the wrong person :v:

    But I didn't ask.:p


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 23,363 Mod ✭✭✭✭feylya


    Oh ho ho, but you did. On the GigSmart forum months ago when Sean (I think) was asking about cheap amps in the Open Mic section. I'll find the post later.

    *Edit*
    There's just a few different types of EQ circuit... they don't usually give that kind of detail, I was just curious. Is it fixed bias (in the style of Mesa and Engl)? Do you know if the 12AT7 is in the phase inverter position or not?

    Actually, is there a schematic available at all? I'm really curious why it's so cheap among other things.

    Yup, you asked me if it was fixed bias :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,117 ✭✭✭Eoin Madsen


    That was all the way back in September so it eh... doesn't count. Anyway, have you actually biased it yet?

    Since the GS seems to be down, answer my more recent questions - is there an external plate voltage measurement or just bias? Does the external take banana plugs or is it something else? What does the thing over the 12AX7 look like? Sounds like a simple valve retainer.

    Now crack it open and show us the insides. :v:


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 23,363 Mod ✭✭✭✭feylya


    I got it last night. It was there for an hour. In that hour, I played it and took the back grill off so no, no biasing.

    Actually, They're not banana plugs I think, despite what I said on GS. Depends if I'm thinking of the right thing :/

    It ain't a valve retainer. Why would it be on one tube only if it was?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,117 ✭✭✭Eoin Madsen


    I got back to you on GS. All this forum hopping is confusing!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,217 ✭✭✭Rustar


    feylya wrote:
    It ain't a valve retainer. Why would it be on one tube only if it was?

    That's the new Dimebag Darryl Metal Madness tube, included with all new Randalls. :rolleyes:


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 23,363 Mod ✭✭✭✭feylya


    Ya wha?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 274 ✭✭Beastieboy


    The AC30 is cathode-biased so you should never have to worry about bias unless you get into modding.
    Thanks for the info....


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 23,363 Mod ✭✭✭✭feylya


    Just cranked the amp a bit. Me likes :D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,848 ✭✭✭✭Doctor J


    It's about time somebody got a tube amp they liked :v:


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 23,363 Mod ✭✭✭✭feylya


    Oooh, harsh words there Doc. You want a go on it?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,848 ✭✭✭✭Doctor J


    Nah :p


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 23,363 Mod ✭✭✭✭feylya


    Your loss :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,848 ✭✭✭✭Doctor J


    It's nothing personal man, I'm just setting up a gang of Solid State Amp Afficionados... We're out to destroy the myth that tube amps are the only way to go. We might even hijack a luas. I won't send out your membership form so...:v:


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 23,363 Mod ✭✭✭✭feylya


    I don't recall denouncing solid state :/

    Remind me. Your favourite guitar amp, the one you're always talking about. That has a tube in it, doesn't it?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,848 ✭✭✭✭Doctor J


    The Ampeg? No, the closest thing that has to a tube is the one in the Roc Pro in the other room :p

    I only plug the Roc Pro so much cos you can get them. There's no point recommending the VH140C cos Big Al sold his one to me... lest it fall into the hands of False Metal. He's a great man, Big Al.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 23,363 Mod ✭✭✭✭feylya


    Ah, but you never talk about the Ampeg.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,848 ✭✭✭✭Doctor J


    I don't need to. Didn't I point at it proudly when you were here?


    Edit -> Actually, I may have pointed at it smugly...


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 23,363 Mod ✭✭✭✭feylya


    Dunno. I was too busy trying to figure out what strings were which on the Ibanez :v:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,848 ✭✭✭✭Doctor J


    It still takes me a while :D


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  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 23,363 Mod ✭✭✭✭feylya


    Just play the fatest one :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,848 ✭✭✭✭Doctor J


    Oh, and if I ever mention custom wooden inlays again be a dear and snap me out of it :v:


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 23,363 Mod ✭✭✭✭feylya


    I think we all want pictures of that particular project ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,848 ✭✭✭✭Doctor J


    They'll come. It's taken me three full weeks to find the right kind of wood that isn't too hard to carve but isn't so soft it beaks apart when you get down to the itty bittys. I've pretty much got the side-markers done and it's looking good but the fretboard ones required a rethink. I've got a plan though.

    The Floyd is in. It stays in tune now :D


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 23,363 Mod ✭✭✭✭feylya


    Interesting... Must hear it through a nice tube amp... :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,848 ✭✭✭✭Doctor J


    Nah :p


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 23,363 Mod ✭✭✭✭feylya


    Deja vu... :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭LundiMardi


    heh, you guys...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,130 ✭✭✭✭Karl Hungus


    feylya wrote:
    Just cranked the amp a bit. Me likes :D

    Oooh, good stuff! :D


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 23,363 Mod ✭✭✭✭feylya


    I haven't been able to completely crank it yet but it's a verstile little ****er. Roll your guitar volume back and it cleans up lovely. Neck pickup and it's starting to verge on Yngwie territory. Might look into getting a Keeley Tubescreamer or maybe a DS-1. Haven't tried my ME-50 through it yet either.

    Oh, and the clean channel is absolutely gorgeous!


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