Callobrate No.2

Beecher

Okay heres the details:

BPM: 170

Key: E-Minor

Wants: Vocals, bass, intro solo, some solo style riff for second half of verses, beefing up of chorus, solo after first chorus, main solo and backing guitar for the solo (no guitars are recorded where main solo will go (cept for one tiny bit which can be removed) as i'd want people to have the backing to fit their solo and not constrain them. Recording quality isnt that high as I was only starting to write this tonite and people want to sleep so I was kinda time constrained, but a higher quality recording will be done and drums made more human like.

Backing: Here, a temporary link for now.

Where to send files: Ill sort out something tommorrow, I might host an ftp for songs and also have all the software from the free resources thread hosted in it aswell.

Structure: Intro riff 1 + 2/Verse/Pre chorus/Chorus/Intro riff 1/Verse/Pre chorus/Chorus/Solo/Verse/Pre chorus/Chorus/Outro

Tabs will be written on request.

EDIT: Drums updated, a bit better now. Clean guitar removed from solo section.

EDIT2: Intro 1 riff has been filled out, I wont update this for a while now so people dont have to download the song again again

sei046

i'l track a solo for ya bud. Nice track

Beecher

sei046 wrote:

i'l track a solo for ya bud. Nice track

Excellent, on the provision that im not on the lock tommorrow ill try to sort out an ftp and a higher quality recording, also I might seperate the parts (i.e have an mp3 off just the verses, another for the solo etc etc so people can loop them and play along!)

Steoob

pretty damn cool track man.. whats your setup for recording?? coz its pretty good.. im guessing thats thats a drum mechine right? coz if its not then who evers drumming should... like.. i dunno.. do something haha.. im too tired

might think about doin some vocals when when its comes near to ending.. were you thinking distored or clean vocals?

Beecher

Steoob wrote:

pretty damn cool track man.. whats your setup for recording?? coz its pretty good.. im guessing thats thats a drum mechine right? coz if its not then who evers drumming should... like.. i dunno.. do something haha.. im too tired

My setup is partially explained here. I can get quite good results outta it with enough effort and tis very affordable, cant mic up a drumkit with it though (have v-drums for that ) The drums here are a vst plugin called Groove Agent, can sound quite realistic when you adjust the velocity on the hits to mimic a real drummer etc (example here, thats all in midi ). If I get the chance to re-record the guitar properly tommorrow i'll fix up the drums!

Steoob wrote:

might think about doin some vocals when when its comes near to ending.. were you thinking distored or clean vocals?

Whatever you feel like doin, thats the whole spirit of this forum

Steoob

Beecher wrote:

My setup is partially explained here. I can get quite good results outta it with enough effort and tis very affordable, cant mic up a drumkit with it though (have v-drums for that ) The drums here are a vst plugin called Groove Agent, can sound quite realistic when you adjust the velocity on the hits to mimic a real drummer etc (example here, thats all in midi ). If I get the chance to re-record the guitar properly tommorrow i'll fix up the drums!



Whatever you feel like doin, thats the whole spirit of this forum

pretty funky setup man.. you know the cheap behringer mixing thingy you have? how do you power it? and would it work if you plugged in a micced up amp directly to that then into your comp?

the one thing that annoyed me about the drums was the snare roll sounded very odd.. too loud and because it was a drum machine it didn't sound like a roll.. just like hitting it with the same stick.. if ya get my meaning...

i'll listen to the song as it progresses and she if something comes to mind about the vocals.. if someone wants to write lyrics theyre welcome coz im too lazy

Beecher

Steoob wrote:

pretty funky setup man.. you know the cheap behringer mixing thingy you have? how do you power it?

Its powered by an AC adapter

Steoob wrote:

would it work if you plugged in a micced up amp directly to that then into your comp?

Thats what I do, I plug my SM57 mic into the mixer and then plug the main out of the mixer into the line in of my soundcard.

Steoob wrote:

the one thing that annoyed me about the drums was the snare roll sounded very odd.. too loud and because it was a drum machine it didn't sound like a roll.. just like hitting it with the same stick.. if ya get my meaning...

Totally! There are some timely measures to make programmed beats convincing and unless a physical drummer wants to step in I will continue to work on the beats and hopefully in the end will be able to fool all non-drummer folk

EDIT: Song re-uploaded with slightly improved drums, esp double bass drum sections.

jcoote

savage tune me likes...lookin foreward to hearin the solo sei...maybe on the chorus riff have a double guitar sound (lizzy esque) what u think????

Beecher

jcoote wrote:

savage tune me likes...lookin foreward to hearin the solo sei...maybe on the chorus riff have a double guitar sound (lizzy esque) what u think????

Cheers! Thats a fantastic idea! DO IT! :v:

jcoote

i will do it indeed...give me a bit of time working is a whore

sei046

so u take a chorus solo? where ya want mind bud? over the blank bit or what? track a rhythm track for my solo aswell i presume

Beecher

sei046 wrote:

so u take a chorus solo? where ya want mind bud? over the blank bit or what? track a rhythm track for my solo aswell i presume

Places where I originally planned to put put solos were intro riff 2 (shred solo) , second half of the versus (more rythmical than shred solo), something for the choruses would rock (suprise me) and over the blank bit (anything can be out there, drums can be changed, was almost thinking of just having a backing bass track to the solo and have 2 guitarists working on it, almost like a guitar battle!!!..we'll see what works as this progresses) so take whatever/as many as you want!

Edit: Ive just re-uploaded the song as ive filled out intro riff 1, I'm gonna stop writing the song now and let you's work on the rest of it

sei046

will give it a shot. Gonna do it on my comp instead of studio just to see how well it works. Nevery realy tried it
wanna try those plugins

440Hz

Class track Beecher!! Sounds like you guys have some great ideas, this could be an interesting one!

jcoote

i think we should get a few tabs goin just so we get it as close as we can as quick as we can!! beecher can u arrange that one???

Beecher

jcoote wrote:

i think we should get a few tabs goin just so we get it as close as we can as quick as we can!! beecher can u arrange that one???

No probs, will get them up tonite

jcoote

nice one i think that should be a requirment cos there will always be little notes here and there that catch most of us out like

sei046

coote what i mite do is leave my solo open for a call and answer for ya if ya want, or that could work well with ur lizzy idea.

red_ice

That rocks sooooooo hard!

Id love to help you out on that, but im not that forward/fast rockin - not my style!

Although, i think ill put a bass riff over that for the fun, as i could manage something on a bass more so than guitar! any ideas where i can upload to?

Beecher

Until I sort out an FTP www.rapidshare.de and www.yousendit.com are pretty good!

red_ice

already got a little bass riff over the verse, i think its cool, but its prolly not your bag heh

What did you use for the drums? i want it!!

sei046

he used Groove agent. i use it too, sit with it and u can get great sounds

Beecher

red_ice wrote:

already got a little bass riff over the verse, i think its cool, but its prolly not your bag heh

What did you use for the drums? i want it!!

:v: Upload it!

edited: I must think before i post (sei u dirt!)!

sei046

oh god......he said it....

red_ice

OK ive uploaded a little track, about a minute of the song that i did on the bass - i dont play bass, im a guitar player, just so happens i have a loan of a bass

Its very rough, its not sharp, and the bass itsself is pants! I tend to play slower stuff on the guitar, this is by far 2x faster than anything i have ever recorded so cut me some slack ok? haha

http://rapidshare.de/files/7628962/bass.mp3.html

it says its here, but i cant see it

red_ice

oops, i forgot to post the main point of my post...

:v:

There we go!

sei046

good stuff bud

red_ice

im pritty sure i hit a few bum notes too :v: :v: :v: :v: :v: :v: :v: :v: :v: :v: :v: :v: :v: :v: :v:

jcoote

so could we mix whats there together provisionally just to see how it sounds???

red_ice

jcoote wrote:

so could we mix whats there together provisionally just to see how it sounds???

Did it already, but the bass is way to high! Its bleeding or something, doesnt sound right, its like theres a chorus pedal over it or something and the levels change, so it sounds pap

i thought he would want the bass on its own so he could mix it himself hehe

here it is anyways... i wasnt going so much for the perfect rythem, just trying to find what notes to dance around when i did it :v:

http://rapidshare.de/files/7630161/bass_and_guiatr.mp3.html

Im sure if i got a loan of a mates bass i could do a better quality one, with better rythem and what not

jcoote

that actually sounds alright nice one lads!!

red_ice

ohh i have a much better riff for around the 1 minute mark onwards... FACE MELT BASS :v:

Beecher

Okay tab here!. Thats some rocking bass red, im adding it to the cubase track now

jcoote

legend!!! thanx beecher

red_ice

Beecher wrote:

Okay tab here!. Thats some rocking bass red, im adding it to the cubase track now

I ashamed i uploaded that, i have a MUCH Better riff - rocks harder imo! I dont have time to work on it tonight, i think the earliest i can do it is friday - but i will look at them tabs - that will definitly help me structure something alot more harder rockin!

Expect something on saturday from start to finish with (please god) good quality sound.. Ill do my best to get a good bass on loan to record it!

Or do you need it asap? Coz i have sh1t loads of college work to do

jcoote

who says we only need one bass line

red_ice

lol

yea, screw the colab, im running the show now haha

Do you all like my song? :v:

Beecher

red_ice wrote:

Expect something on saturday from start to finish with (please god) good quality sound.. Ill do my best to get a good bass on loan to record it!

Or do you need it asap? Coz i have sh1t loads of college work to do

Dude im loving your riffs so far, its really chunked up the chorus etc. Take your time with it, sure I have to start my massive college project tommorrow so my time will also be compromised during weekdays :mad:

:v:

red_ice

Beecher wrote:

Dude im loving your riffs so far, its really chunked up the chorus etc. Take your time with it, sure I have to start my massive college project tommorrow so my time will also be compromised during weekdays :mad:

:v:

Haha thanks! I've always liked that style of guitar just never had a chance to play it coz i tend to play alot of qotsa, mark langegan, death from above 1979 and so on.. Im just glad i got my foot in the door soon enough, i really think that riff of yours has bucket loads of potential, i just hope i can do it some justice :v:

I really have a more driving riff for the 1 min area of your song, if i had a full day to work on it, the whole song would be made up of loads of different riffs, but im sure you want something a little more simple to show someone else how to play or something heh...

I know it doesnt sound right, but on the intro theres a hint of funk - i wanna bring some funk into the bass, but still keep it rockin!

How long did it take you to write that guitar riff? i think its the balls

sei046

i am uploading my solo now but i have it with the track so u can tell me what u want before i post the wavs. I put bass on it just to match my riff but obviously can be taken off. There is a fair bit of bass eq on the track which is my bad, Just didnt allow for the error in my monitors. Its posting now so i will link it in a min

sei046

http://media.putfile.com/beech2

sei046

solo is about half way through

Beecher

Man thats absolutly savage! Send it all!!!!!!!!!!:v:

sei046

doesnt leave any room for other people really though in that solo. Will remove the bass and change some riffs if u want. Just brainstorm on it and see what u want

Steoob

sei046 wrote:

solo is about half way through

DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDEEEEEEEEEEEE now thats a ****ing solo

sei046

really missed my wah for that opening phrase and wasnt sure bout that tap (quiet bit). You can barely make out the left hand solo. Eq is miles off to beeches too so if you wanna take a different solo bud coz it wont be til wednesday before i get to fix all that stuff. That guitar sound is completely different to his, its really obvious

red_ice

wow! Nice shred! :DD

Im gonna record my riff from start to finish, i have to hear it all together! That sounds amazing! you lads get mint sound quality, mine sounds pap :v:

You must fill me in on your secrets! ok, im recording........ now *shhhh*

red_ice

urgh, took me 7 minz to upload that :v:

recorded it in 2 takes! woohoo! Still a rough bassline - i see sei in all his grace decided to leave his bassline in!!

I cant normalise this at all for some reason - heres the pooey bass on the track with the sei's face melt

http://rapidshare.de/files/7646091/riffshredbassdrum.mp3.html

sei046

sorry bud, i only stuck it in coz i added the riff. if u want to use that solo i will do it up right for ya and take out bass

Beecher

sei046 wrote:

That guitar sound is completely different to his, its really obvious

Sure I plan to re-record all my parts anyways, I should be able to match your tone in the re-record

sei046

i wouldnt go out of your way, its your project! i just wanted to get something down so hookd up an old zoom, dont have my h&k or anythin home with me. I would fire ahead and if u decide u want something somewhere just gimme a shout