Free speech

Chick

As myself and Rb kinda discovered lately, its like totally not allowed on some boards around here... ahem not naming names r anything
But seriously, whats up with not being able to say what you think!

Spunog UIE

*ahem* i think it has to do with the sheer volume. If you want a private conversation use a chatroom or chat program of some kind, other wise your just spamming, no one really wants to read through it all looking for something relevant to the original topic.

Rb

Its a dictatorship! :eek:
I can understand that some people don't want to have to read through someones conversation on a thread, discovered pm's since then

Chick

theyre a good idea alright

Rb

Totally...but ya can't beat some good ol' "trolling"

Chick

Hell yeah! become a new pastime of mine quite recently actually, lol funny you should mention it

Rb

Yeah and I totally found out that theres a certain point ya can push it to

jaysonia

rb_ie wrote:

Its a dictatorship! :eek:
I can understand that some people don't want to have to read through someones conversation on a thread, discovered pm's since then

lol if admins know how to use the database they could easily read your pms to.

Rb

Really? :eek:

jaysonia

yeah but thats if there bothered. i mean with the amount of members on this forum i'd say it would take a long time to go through all the pm's

Big P

Jason clearly these people dont do computers!!!

And anyway;

SELECT * from vbulletin_pms WHERE name = 'rb_ie'

Or just use an id (dont know the table structure for vbulletin). But, easy peazy lemon squeazy!

Rb

If you found out that a admin/mod was reading your pms like, does it count as invasion of privacy?

Big P

no dont be stupid. when you join a forum say bye bye to privacy. anyone who uses a forum for things that are private is just asking for details. The only thing belonging to you that is private from anyone on this server is your password (and even then, that doesn tmean it cant still be got )

Rb

Ah right I see...kinda takes the "private" outta "private messages" doesnt it!?

jaysonia

Big P wrote:

SELECT * from vbulletin_pms WHERE name = 'rb_ie'

look at you showing off your SQL knowledge i only started that.

yeah it does really thats y i never really use pm's unless nessecary.

Giblet

1. They don't check your PM's here without any reason. Like Illegal activites.
2. Says more about your forums doesn't it.

jaysonia

not really were just computer students poointing out the fact that they could be read if they wanted to read them. and what would make you think there was illegal activity's in someone's pm's anyway??

Chick

Ok reading pm's? that's so not good :eek:

Rb

Yeah totally but as someone said, its only if its about illegal activites or something which is something I so do not do, thats for knackers

Big P

Giblet wrote:

1. They don't check your PM's here without any reason. Like Illegal activites.
2. Says more about your forums doesn't it.

Some form of dig is it? I wouldn't be arsed reading someones PMs, as I feel yes they are private. But that's not to say it can't be done. And anyone who thinks that doesn't know how the system works. I'm sure there are loads of forum admins out there who do it, and thinking it doesnt happen is just stupid.

rb_ie, depends on the meaning of word illegal! Lots of things are illegal for many reasons, but not all are valid. Anyway, the reason they are called "Private Messages" is because they are only seen by the people who make them. The general public do not see them. I'm just pointing out that there are very few things that are private on the 'net

Rb

Yeah the internets just aiding Big Brother....lol...
Oh and slightly off topic, a few years ago I heard the feds had developed a system to like, read peoples emails and stuff....what happened over that?

cr

rb_ie wrote:

Yeah the internets just aiding Big Brother....lol...
Oh and slightly off topic, a few years ago I heard the feds had developed a system to like, read peoples emails and stuff....what happened over that?

you'd be supprised what you info you can get, just look a big p's signature, it shows YOUR ip address, isp and browser type!
its a good thing that my real ip is never shown, otherwise i might as well say hack here!
* if you need a reason to use a proxy this is it!
nice code big p

Rb

Ah yeah but sure websites collect that sort of info anyway dont they?

Chick

"if you need a reason to use a proxy this is it!"
Ok feeling a tad blonde at the mo, but dare I ask what's that?

Rb

my understanding is that its like, a server that caches pages that people have visited to minimise the amount of people downloading the same pages over and over, frees up bandwidth or something....am I right? I can't even remember where I got that info, think it was like, convered in a module in transition year or something...

Big P

cr wrote:

you'd be supprised what you info you can get, just look a big p's signature, it shows YOUR ip address, isp and browser type!
its a good thing that my real ip is never shown, otherwise i might as well say hack here!

Nah not really, IPs arent that important unless you're doing something dodgy and you need to be tracked. My sig is basically there just to show you that info about you is easily obtainable

nice code big p

Yeah been learning "the language I wrote it in" for several years now. Easy enough at this stage BTW, a nice lil feature of it is the source is a PNG file I love Apache!

Um, rb_ie, no that's nothing like a proxy at all. People use proxies for many many different reasons. The reason to use a proxy for this thread is about security. By using a proxy you can pretty much set your host as being a different machine. So, if using a proxy from australia, my sig would actually say that you're IP is that of that machine. Therefore I/other people wouldnt know your true location. Neat for numerous reasons

Rb

And i go about this how?

jaysonia

do a google search for more info. google is always your best friend when you wanna/need to find out info.

Rb

I'm not THAT bothered now

Chick

lol me neither, i wouldnt be that assed!

Big P

Yeah exactly. I'm sure there is nothing you do on the 'net that you would have any need for a proxy, its just for people who want to remain anonymous in what they do use them. So, you might aswell give in to the fact that privacy on the 'net is something that very few people fully know about.

Chick

Lol well i dont exactly run a porn site or anything!

Rb

Anonymous in what they do?like, computer hackers or something?

Big P

rb_ie wrote:

Anonymous in what they do?like, computer hackers or something?

Well a web proxy only makes you anonymous while viewing websites. The term hacker is stupid, because almost no one knows the real meaning of it. The people who "hack" only do it to try test security. They never do it for anything malicious. In fact they inform the web admin's about the flaws in a hope to increase security from anyone with malicious intent. A proxy wont hide your emails anymore or your PMs anymore, it just makes your location *seem* invisible.

And chick since when is porn illegal? lol, I dunno the ratio of porn websites to regular websites but I'm damn sure it still out weighs anything else out there.

Rb

what about online gambling?That accounts for alot of websites doesn't it?Ah right, so a proxy is more or less useless for the average end user basically?

Big P

what about online gambling?

Yes, a proxy does mean **** to any regular internet user and in all honestly if you are a regular internet user you shouldnt even concern yourself with anything to do with proxies because in all honest. Nobody cares about you! No one really wants your passwords and wnats to "hack you". The majority of the time its just automated attacks.

Rb

I heard online gambling sites and porn sites accounted for the majority of web sites on the net?I could of been mis-informed, i dunno.

Chick

oh my god what were you doing like talking about **** like that at 3.53am!?

Rb

my little bro went out, didn't tell anyone and switched off his phone,my old pair asked me to wait up til he got in, so I did.Go figure.

Chick

aw being the good big bro that you are

Rb

Half, was also trying to catch him out for drink driving

Chick

how old is he!?

youve to wait up for him , but yet hes old enough to drive? 17+ ?

Rb

He's 16, has a motorbike. I don't usually wait up for him like, its just he went out to watch the match yesterday and didn't phone or anything so i was asked to wait up, eventually got a phone call at 4am from him saying he was staying in a friends...the knob. :rolleyes:

Chick

hate that... i've never done that before(!);)

Rb

neither have I
noone would of cared except he went off on his bike with the last words of "ah,just getting a few cans and watching the game with the lads" like :rolleyes:

Chick

Oh I thought you meant he was AT the match! I was thinking... God hes going all the way out to Donnybrook on his bike, on his own lol

Rb

He wont go to the gym on his own, "no motivation" or something, let alone a rugby match :rolleyes:

Chick

I wouldn't have minded being there
Wore my jersey anyways

cr

rb_ie wrote:

He wont go to the gym on his own, "no motivation" or something, let alone a rugby match :rolleyes:

man i know that feeling! you miss a couple of nights training and it all goes downhill from there!

Chick

you play rugby?

Rb

:rolleyes: