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Eircom Plan to deliver 500,000 Broadband connections by December 2007

  • 24-11-2004 9:09am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,290 ✭✭✭


    NEWS RELEASE
    eircom leads Broadband revolution for Ireland

    Plan to deliver 500,000 Broadband connections by December 2007

    Ireland now has one of the highest Broadband growth rates in Europe

    Ireland to well exceed EU average and UK for DSL penetration, and to be at
    EU average for Broadband

    Goal of near 100% Broadband availability by March 2007

    Wednesday 24 November, 2004: Having achieved its target of 100,000 Broadband connections ahead of schedule eircom has today announced an aggressive new plan to deliver 500,000 DSL Broadband connections by December 2007. The new target, which we believe would position Ireland above the EU average for DSL Broadband penetration, reflects the fact that Ireland has become one of the fastest growth markets for Broadband in the EU. This is the result of an aggressive marketing and promotional campaign by eircom which has resulted in excess of 3,000 customers signing up for Broadband each week.

    eircom also announced today that it plans to achieve 90% Broadband coverage in Ireland by March 2006 and is calling on Government to deliver the
    remaining 10% so that Ireland can have 100% Broadband availability. Coverage today stands at over 74% and is set to reach 80% by March 2005, ensuring that every town in Ireland with a population over 1,500 will be connected to Broadband.

    Commenting on the announcement the chief executive of eircom, Phil Nolan,
    said: "We have now made the breakthrough in Broadband in Ireland by
    achieving our target of connecting 100,000 customers ahead of schedule. Today we are connecting customers to Broadband at one of the fastest rates
    in Europe. We are now set to transform Broadband in this country with our
    plan to have 500,000 connections by December 2007. We are also setting a
    goal to have 100% Broadband availability in Ireland by March 2007.
    eircom will provide 90% availability by this date and I believe that it may be possible for Government, through the funding it has allocated already, to
    complete the final 10%.

    The Regulator has a crucial role, both to support investors in broadband
    infrastructure, and to ensure that innovation is not choked by
    over-regulation. Broadband has truly arrived in Ireland and eircom is determined to ensure that as many people as possible become part of the Broadband revolution as quickly as possible".

    Note:
    eircom has achieved its target of 100,000 Broadband connections by November 17th 2004. eircom's retail division has signed up 77,000 customers. eircom's wholesale division accounts for 23,000 connections (sold mainly by EsatBT). Two thirds of the Broadband base today is residential with one-third
    business.
    - ENDS -


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,304 ✭✭✭✭koneko


    When Eircom says 100% BB availability, do they mean all the exchanges should be upgraded, or everyone should be able to get BB? Those two completely different figures. 100% looks impressive at first, but not when you factor in how many people actually fail the line test.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,143 ✭✭✭spongebob


    koneko wrote:
    When Eircom says 100% BB availability, do they mean all the exchanges should be upgraded, or everyone should be able to get BB? Those two completely different figures. 100% looks impressive at first, but not when you factor in how many people actually fail the line test.

    Eircom have Wireless Licences in the 3.5Ghz band. The condition s imply that they must install more next year toi meet a 5 year coverage requirement.

    I would bet that the 100% is probably.

    100% of the 1100 exchange areas Nationally will have FWA or Wired DSL service..sometimes both.....in 3 years. Try to remember that Eircom have not upgraded all their exchanges for ISDN yet ....and that is a 20 year old technology.

    It will not be 100% geographic or 100% population .

    M


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,393 ✭✭✭Eurorunner


    Try to remember that Eircom have not upgraded all their exchanges for ISDN yet

    Thats interesting. Is there a list of those that have not been upgraded somewhere muck?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,290 ✭✭✭damien


    IrelandOffline reply below. If anyone has friends in the media send the below press release on to them.
    Pressure Group calls for Ministerial action after latest eircom statement.

    Today Internet consumer and business pressure group IrelandOffline described eircom's latest broadband announcement as something suitable for the late nineties and not for the current century. The group feels Ireland is again being cheated with a target that is set for the end of 2007, at least a year later than Minister Noel Dempsey wanted. The group is now seeking Ministerial intervention in wake of eircom's statements.

    Spokesman Aidan Whyte said "Ireland is currently 18th out of 21 countries in the OECD. The OECD countries are our direct competitors and Ireland is currently at a distinct business and cultural disadvantage. With these targets from eircom it shows we will unfortunately remain disadvantaged for the foreseeable future. If our economic progress is to be sustained we need to be on par with the rest of the developed world."

    Commenting on the eircom rollout, committee member John Timmons stated. "eircom are talking about 2007, but let's talk about today. Today in Ireland less than half the population can get broadband, broadband rollout is 3 years behind the rest of Europe, 20-25% of lines in areas covered for broadband fail the eircom quality test (compared to less than 1% in the UK) and there is a deepening digital divide between the rural and urban populations."

    Timmons added "The eircom press release contains an array of up-beat phrases about high penetration rates, exceeding EU averages, fastest growth rates, aggressive plans and so on. This is a dangerously misleading smoke screen.We have 100,000 broadband subscribers in Ireland today. Meanwhile in the 6 counties in the North they have 70,000 connections and a guarantee of 100% coverage by February while eircom are promising us in the Republic 90% by a far off date in 2007"

    IrelandOffline said for eircom to seek to carve up the market and take the easy 90% while leaving the remaining 10% to take their chances is analogous to the ESB saying that it will provide electricity to 90% of the population and for the rest to come up with their own solution.

    Aidan Whyte stated: "IrelandOffline now calls on eircom and all the other companies in the market to release their plans for their future broadband rollouts and to include six-monthly objectives from now until the time Ireland has 100% coverage. Further to this we are calling on Minister Dempsey to urgently conduct a review of the state of Broadband in Ireland in the light of eircom's failure to realise the seriousness of the country's plight. "


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,290 ✭✭✭damien


    There may be something on 5-7 live about this later. Maybe send some comments if they cover it. Email is: 57live@rte.ie


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,630 ✭✭✭Blaster99


    Perhaps very obvious, but it's a good idea to compare the Republic with the North because that must be a very similar environment. Whatever can be done in the North can surely be done here, particularly if you consider that we supposedly have a much better performing economy. If the UK regulatory regime and BT can deliver broadband to 100% of people in the North, then the same should be achievable here in the same time frame. Anything else is a sign of significant failure on the part of the regulator. Comparing with the UK as a whole isn't as effective as they have higher population density and greater economy of scale type of excuses.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,933 ✭✭✭thejollyrodger


    The north is meant to have 100% broadband coverage by 2005. Were 2 years down the track after that. Plus they are introducing ADSL 2 which goes further. no sign of that here.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,718 ✭✭✭SkepticOne


    damien.m wrote:
    IrelandOffline said for eircom to seek to carve up the market and take the easy 90% while leaving the remaining 10% to take their chances is analogous to the ESB saying that it will provide electricity to 90% of the population and for the rest to come up with their own solution.
    No, Eircom said that they wished to work in "partnership with Government" (Phil Nolan interview) i.e. the Government pays Eircom, to achieve "practically" 100% in terms of "coverage". There would still be a 30% failure rate (higher in rural areas). This 30% may be reduced with the introduction of ADSL2+ but there will still be the issue of splitters and low line quality. From Eircoms point of view this isn't a great problem since they make money anyway.

    They don't say that they want other companies doing the remaining 10% for the obvious reason that the less competition the better.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,109 ✭✭✭De Rebel


    The north is meant to have 100% broadband coverage by 2005.

    Can anybody point me to where this is written down?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,051 ✭✭✭bealtine


    De Rebel wrote:
    Can anybody point me to where this is written down?

    Here is one place :

    http://www.investni.com/index/locate/lc-key-facts/key_facts_-_infrastructure.htm


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 805 ✭✭✭vinnyfitz


    Nice to hear IOFFL's statement quoted on the RTE business news at 7.05 this morning.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,290 ✭✭✭damien


    Woah. Impressive.

    SiliconRepublic have it too:

    http://www.siliconrepublic.com/news/news4a.nv?storyid=single4121


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 477 ✭✭DonegalMan


    damien.m wrote:
    Woah. Impressive.

    SiliconRepublic have it too:

    http://www.siliconrepublic.com/news/news4a.nv?storyid=single4121
    To steal a saying from DeRebel - that one really hits the spot!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13 SpiderKiller


    they are Very Slow to have DSL install in the Midlands. I have been livin in Dublin all my life and when i move out to the Midlands in a village which is kinda head racking when i have no Line for the internet and i am not going to pay more then the average price for DSL line. If i wanted the internet that bad i would have to go Satellite Broadband wihich i do not want to spend the money on.

    I live in Westmeath and i wanted to ask does anybody know a way to get Eircom to Speed them up to get a DSL Line in the area you live in ? ? ? ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 849 ✭✭✭jwt


    Where in Westmeath do you live?

    there are quite a few towns and villages with bb, either through Adsl or wireless.

    John


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,144 ✭✭✭eircomtribunal


    Report on BBC how Scotland is getting supplied with DSL.
    Communities get broadband access

    Broadband is seen to have benefits for business
    A project which aimed to give every community in Scotland access to broadband services has been completed, ministers have announced.


    ...The only one which has still to be fully enabled serves Foula in Shetland, although an interim solution is already providing broadband access in the area.

    Out of reach

    Services have been launched in most of its areas, with the remainder due to come on stream within the next few months.

    The executive said some people who live far away from the exchanges were unable to access broadband due to the limitations of ADSL technology.

    "While the executive is not committed to providing broadband to every household, it has however been working to identify any clusters of 'out of reach' households in Scotland where there is a demand for broadband," said a spokesman.

    "The executive is developing the next steps for providing solutions to these 'clusters' over 2006, subject to criteria, including budget and value for money."

    With a € 35 million (£24) state contribution Scotland, which has about 5 million people and about the same population density as Ireland (slightly higher) they have achieved near universal dsl coverage.

    P.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,230 ✭✭✭Solair


    If there are exchanges / RSUs that don't support ISDN that would have no relevance to DSL rollout anyway. It would just highlight eircom's total distain for rural areas.

    ISDN's actually provided by the voice switch itself and requires the appropriate software/hardware to be present.

    DSL is basically piggy-backed ontop of the analogue lines coming out of the exchange. Doesn't really matter what services the local switch provides/doesn't provide. In theory, had DSL arrived in the 1980s it could even have been rolled out on electromechanical switches. All it needs is access to the copper cables.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34 DialUpMeArse


    All in all, this announcement is welcome, to a degree. Like others I have reservations about the actual practical ramifications of this particular stage of Eircoms bb Crusade. Somebody inside Eircom needs to go on the record as to what "100%" REALLY constitutes, and whether line-failure will still be an issue.

    As I said elsewhere, GBS is due to go live in my area, Mark McGuinnes has stated that the transmitter is to placed on a hill known as Downs Hill, and as far as I know I have direct line of sight with that Hill, albeit that I live in a bungalow.

    So, fingers crossed, that scheme should be a GO by Feb at the latest. Start up fee is €150 with €50 per month for a 2mb DL/ 1 mb UL connection, no Cap, save for some fuzzy talk about "ABUSE"

    Eitherways, 2 years is a long time from now, especially when you consider Eircom have made NO guarantee as to the practical effect of their expansion. Its the local GBS for me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34 DialUpMeArse


    SkepticOne wrote:
    No, Eircom said that they wished to work in "partnership with Government" .


    In other words the Govt can help foot the bill, which they will gladly do. Gobsheens.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,639 ✭✭✭Laguna


    With a € 35 million (£24) state contribution Scotland, which has about 5 million people and about the same population density as Ireland (slightly higher) they have achieved near universal dsl coverage.

    P.

    This ****ing country, mark my words - many, many people in rural Ireland like myself will never be offered DSL broadband through the phoneline as long as Eircom hold all the cards. I live six kilometres as the crow flies from Borris, Carlow, a town which recently had its exchange upgraded, I tried to get broadband in vain, sending email after email to phil.nolan@eircom.ie and all I got back was the fact that Eircom see this area as 'done and dusted', they told me that as I live 6km from Borris (I got the guy who rang me to say it - it says it in the email too), that my phoneline will NEVER be broadband enabled.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,191 ✭✭✭uncle_sam_ie


    Laguna wrote:
    This ****ing country, mark my words - many, many people in rural Ireland like myself will never be offered DSL broadband through the phoneline as long as Eircom hold all the cards. I live six kilometres as the crow flies from Borris, Carlow, a town which recently had its exchange upgraded, I tried to get broadband in vain, sending email after email to phil.nolan@eircom.ie and all I got back was the fact that Eircom see this area as 'done and dusted', they told me that as I live 6km from Borris (I got the guy who rang me to say it - it says it in the email too), that my phoneline will NEVER be broadband enabled.

    I'm in the same ****ing shoes. I live about 6 kilometers from my exchange also, although mine hasn't been upgraded yet. My only hope is wireless broadband. I really believe the Government needs to step in. I DON'T want them to give Eircon money though. They need to get those exchanges opened up and some kind of tax incentive to the operators if they give rural Ireland Broadband access. The situation now really sucks.:mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,290 ✭✭✭damien


    Laguna wrote:
    they told me that as I live 6km from Borris (I got the guy who rang me to say it - it says it in the email too), that my phoneline will NEVER be broadband enabled.

    Can you forward that email to info AT irelandoffline.org?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    Laguna wrote:
    and all I got back was the fact that Eircom see this area as 'done and dusted', they told me that as I live 6km from Borris (I got the guy who rang me to say it - it says it in the email too), that my phoneline will NEVER be broadband enabled.

    You have (rare) written proof that we will never have 100% BB coverage, and thats from the CEO s own office . Congrats my friend. In the UK the carrier BT would pull out the stops to give you BB as long as you were within 10KM so 6KM is nothing really . In the wild , and looking at the decrepit ****heap that is the copper access network, many of us knew as early as the early to mid 1990s that the state of the art network was a con job and it has rotted since .

    The government has a mind (not really a plan is that spatial thingy ) to disperse the population more evenly around the country ...around smaller towns anyway... but will not be able to so do because of the current state of the last mile telecoms infrastructure. Therefore Eircom sorta have them by the goolies a bit until wireless has serious traction . That about 2-3 years away .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,176 ✭✭✭1huge1


    I live about 3/4 of a kilometre outside a town called Hospital that has yet to have its exchange upgraded
    but what i dont understand is that other towns around us seem to be getting broadband and were not and we have much more people living in hospital
    in the greater area theres a good few thousand
    i bet ya if i was in leinster we would have it
    they are deploying it much better there than they are here in munster

    another thing that makes no sense is that eircom say they cover 70% of the population when it comes to broadband i find this very hard to believe we could not possible be in the last 30%
    id say the figure is more like 60% at the most


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    Hospital is not on a main road , its near one but actually not on it. Therefore it probably has no fibre unlike the tiny (and enabled) Ardrahan in Co. Galway.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,639 ✭✭✭Laguna


    damien.m wrote:
    Can you forward that email to info AT irelandoffline.org?

    I'll try and locate it, it's on my pop mail server which I hardly use at my website, this was some time ago though and I'm not entirely sure if my webspace provider deletes read email after a certain amount of time (Brinkster) :confused:.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34 DialUpMeArse


    Laguna wrote:
    This ****ing country, mark my words - many, many people in rural Ireland like myself will never be offered DSL broadband through the phoneline as long as Eircom hold all the cards. I live six kilometres as the crow flies from Borris, Carlow, a town which recently had its exchange upgraded, I tried to get broadband in vain, sending email after email to phil.nolan@eircom.ie and all I got back was the fact that Eircom see this area as 'done and dusted', they told me that as I live 6km from Borris (I got the guy who rang me to say it - it says it in the email too), that my phoneline will NEVER be broadband enabled.

    Tell you what, when Mark McGuinness gets back from his holidays I'll try and get him to contact you. He's the man beind the Group Broadband Scheme in my area. I think you need to recruit a certain amount of support [ie pull in a certain minimum of interested parties] and then they [the ISP] go to work on it for you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,176 ✭✭✭1huge1


    Sponge Bob wrote:
    Hospital is not on a main road , its near one but actually not on it. Therefore it probably has no fibre unlike the tiny (and enabled) Ardrahan in Co. Galway.
    are you sure you were looking at the right place because hospital is on a main road


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13 SpiderKiller


    Well i live beside Kinnegad, Co. Westmeath. And i Got a Eircom line in and guest what FAILED. So no broadband for me GREAT. So does anybody know a way to get broadband faster then the ****y time wasting by Eircom.

    i not one for wireless as you know its **** which its can not be used for gaming and downloads. I had broadband for 4 years and when i moved from dublin i have been stuck without Broadband since i moved to here.

    Any Help


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13 SpiderKiller


    I live about 5 to 10 mins drive form Kinnegad, Plus i dont want wireless i want DSL line i was on there site before but the price is crazy per month..... Thank you for the Help.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    when did you line go in ??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,573 ✭✭✭✭ednwireland


    Laguna wrote:
    This ****ing country, mark my words - many, many people in rural Ireland like myself will never be offered DSL broadband through the phoneline as long as Eircom hold all the cards. I live six kilometres as the crow flies from Borris, Carlow, a town which recently had its exchange upgraded, I tried to get broadband in vain, sending email after email to phil.nolan@eircom.ie and all I got back was the fact that Eircom see this area as 'done and dusted', they told me that as I live 6km from Borris (I got the guy who rang me to say it - it says it in the email too), that my phoneline will NEVER be broadband enabled.


    i know its not much consolation i actually live within 4.5km of the exchange and have been told that my line will never be repaired to take broadand cant fault the local engineers who have tried everything to get eircom to do something. the worst thing is i cant get wireless either because theres a hill between me and the only mountain which has none eircom wireless on it
    have to try and get my neighbour to put a repeater in !!!
    i wouldnt mind but me and my partner work from home


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,718 ✭✭✭whippet


    My exchange in D15 still isn't unbundled, I called Eircom there to see what the story is and I was told that they 'plan to have 90% of exchanges in ireland broadband ready by the end of march', I asked her if she had any idea which exchanges are in the 90% .. but of course she didn't have a clue.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,889 ✭✭✭cgarvey


    Well i live beside Kinnegad, Co. Westmeath. And i Got a Eircom line in and guest what FAILED. So no broadband for me GREAT. So does anybody know a way to get broadband faster then the ****y time wasting by Eircom.

    Wait at least a month for the line to be tested, or you could try asking eircom to do a test for you (mixed reports on whether they actually do).
    i not one for wireless as you know its **** which its can not be used for gaming and downloads.
    If eircom's ability to turn red to green is anything to go by, you may just have to resort to wireless, which is suitable for games, and downloads. I don't know what you're basing your "facts" on, but if it's on IBB (one poorly rolled out wireless service), then you're being a bit over-reactive!!!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,311 ✭✭✭IT Loser


    Group Broadband Scheme....its the only way to go, I tell thee.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4 smartsystems


    I have been waiting on my exchange to be enabled for the last year my current 56k connection stood me €4,000 this year and that is running on the eircom 150hrs package......for a month or 2 I had the BT 180HR package also....

    but I foolishly cancelled it because some fool in the eircom broadband department told me I would have an enabled exchange in a week or two back in August 2005.....

    Months passed no broadband....complained to eircom....about there sales staff....guess what they denied any date been given......rang up continuously each week.....sales person 75% of the time gave a date...???/

    No broadband......So imagine my surprise when I open up the paper (6 months later) to see an advertisement that my exchange has been enabled.....great quick do a line test.....FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL.........

    Ring eircom broadband department ...some sales person really hasn`t got a clue what broadband is or how it works....just knows how to pass a billing....oh just keep on trying........ ring again next day just to check if all the work has been finished on my exchange.....eircom broadband sales person .....Yes no more work is required on your exchange.......

    Well then why is my line failing.......

    eircom broadband - well its probably something to do with how your line is laid.....

    Me: Well when are you fixing my eircom line to enable it to carry broadband...

    eircom broadband - were`re not....

    me: why not?

    eircom broadband - well we are not legally required to provide a broadband service......

    me: well I want a piece of paper confirming 100% that my line was tested to carry broadband, an engineers technical report to be precise.

    eircom broadband - we can`t provide that information, we have no contact by telephone with eircom engineers.....

    me: aren`t you a communications company????????????????????????? Put me in contact with someone who can provide the information I require.......

    eircom broadband - Oh I will send you to the customer relations department...

    eircom customer relations dept - I don`t know why eircom broadband have sent you here....we have nothing to do with broadband.....

    me: aren`t you eircom or did somebady divert me to a different company???

    eircom customer relations dept - I will send you back to eircom broadband ask for a SUPERVISOR

    Me: OK! Like a FOOL

    Eircom Broadband - I will check for a SUPERVISOR

    10 Minutes later I arrive back at the same eircom customer relations girl.....

    eircom customer relations - this is not on .... do you want to make an official complaint....

    me: Of course I do.......Official Complaint Lodged

    ================================================

    Now eircom are enabling exchanges upto 100% but there lines are setup so 100% of the customer base cannot carry broadband...... So I think eircom should be penalised as they don`t intend on upgrading lines???

    Eircom should be made provide 56k & ISDN lines at a fixed price the same fixed price as broadband with no limits to connection time. Maybe this will give them a kick in the arse.......

    Its time to start a customer revolution - everybody who`s line has failed the eircom broadband test should demand a full engineers report from eircom on exactly why there line has failed.....

    Start reporting continuous line faults to eircom and make them send engineers out to investigate. Hit them in the pocket....after all they are legally obliged to provide a telephone service.....eat that one eircom......

    Oh as for the government FF....... I will be bartering my vote to the party who enforce a policy of 100% broadband connection on 100% of Irish lines not 25% or 35% of lines as is now.......

    OUST THE GOVERNMENT THEY ARE USELESS...........DON`T BE FOOLED BY FOOLS BEARING GIFTS.......???? ISSA`S


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,144 ✭✭✭eircomtribunal


    I have been waiting on my exchange to be enabled for the last year my current 56k connection stood me €4,000 this year and that is running on the eircom 150hrs package......for a month or 2 I had the BT 180HR package also....
    This imaginary problem of yours has been successfully solved by gov and regulator long ago.
    Dermot Ahern had directed, I think it was back in March 2003, the regulator to introduce "affordable" "retail flat rate dial-up Internet" connectivity, so that the Irish consumer could finally have "price certainty" and take up the Internet to the same degree as in the rest of Europe. ComReg "successfully" did just that, reported back about the successful deed to the DCMNR, to the Oireachtas Committee on communications etc. Only recently now Comms minister Noel Dempsey answered a Dail question telling the House that this flat rate access had been successfully introduced and that already around 100,000 customers were using it.

    May I propose to you to ask the guys in the DCMNR to tell you where you could access this affordable retail flat rate dial-up Internet access product, that the regulator had so successfully introduced.

    As to possible progress with this regulator: I doubt we'll see progress unless we physically put the ComReg office onto a pair-gained dial-up line...

    P.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,630 ✭✭✭Blaster99


    No broadband......So imagine my surprise when I open up the paper (6 months later) to see an advertisement that my exchange has been enabled.....great quick do a line test.....FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL.........

    Sounds like you're having fun. How far from the exchange are you? What are your dial-up speeds like?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4 smartsystems


    This imaginary problem of yours has been successfully solved by gov and regulator long ago.
    Dermot Ahern had directed, I think it was back in March 2003, the regulator to introduce "affordable" "retail flat rate dial-up Internet" connectivity, so that the Irish consumer could finally have "price certainty"

    P.

    Imaginary problem, its not imaginary to me its very real how much eircom are extorting from me......and its a normal house connection, "work from home"....independant.............

    Price certainty......eircom will only give me the 150hr package for the price of €49 euro......per month I run over the 150 hrs every month for this they hammer me for an additional €200 euro or more a month my last internet bill was €550 for there 150 hr package........I asked for an addtional 150hr package they said we can`t do that....of course they can`t why would they when they are taking me to the cleaners.....

    anyways I need broadband speed.......and a 24hr connection to the internet......its not my problem that eircoms lines are from the prehistoric age...its there`s...........is it not reasonable for them to upgrade them.....

    I am in perfect range of the exchange base station.hell the eircom sales person didn`t even know the radius when I asked today....lucky I understand the technology a bit better than the person selling it to me....................

    Eircom is milking the market before they are gobbled up..........lets revolt take back some of the funds they have extorted.........Ireland is going to become a joke in europe...........so technologically advanced that our schools haven`t even got 100% coverage with PC`s........

    Eircom is a private company making little or no investment in its copper network.....they are extracting as much profit from the market before they sell the company....bloody swiss government put an end to swisscom moving in.......

    PS My 56k connection today hit its highest in a year 44k for 3 months during the summer it ran between 28k & 37k...................they are probably laughing at me in the Ukraine.................even when the russian were in charge they probably had faster connections lol


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,718 ✭✭✭SkepticOne


    Price certainty......eircom will only give me the 150hr package for the price of €49 euro......per month I run over the 150 hrs every month for this they hammer me for an additional €200 euro or more a month my last internet bill was €550 for there 150 hr package........I asked for an addtional 150hr package they said we can`t do that....of course they can`t why would they when they are taking me to the cleaners.....
    Have you considered getting a second line and a 180 hour package with a different company?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4 smartsystems


    I was running on eircom 150hr package for 6 months

    then I setup a BT 180hr package as well so I could switch dialup every two weeks.................

    I need an always on connection to take full advantage of what I do.........I have a need for speed...........

    In August eircom broadband assured me my exchange would be active and broadband would be available in 2 weeks.......so I cancelled the BT dialup which can run on the same number as the eircom package..............eircom never once mentioned that there was a possibility that my line would fail the test.... I had checked the distance from base station and it was fine......

    my problem is a 56k connection is no good for internet usage in this day and age.............I want VOIP and all the other advantages broadband brings..............downloads of 60mb take 7 hrs or more...its a joke........

    I have to wait for pages to load that are 90kb...........please........

    I have checked a good few numbers in the area........and 50% or over are failing and these are places within 5 minutes walk of each other..............its the switching they have setup..........

    anyways I am getting an engineers report on the problem full stop.........if it switching....they can come out and disconnect my line..........


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,718 ✭✭✭SkepticOne


    I need an always on connection to take full advantage of what I do.........I have a need for speed...........
    My I enqire as to what that is? There has to be some way around the problem. The priority has to be to avoid paying 550 to the monopolist. This is only encouraging Eircom to not provide broadband.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,630 ✭✭✭Blaster99


    smartsystems, where are you based? Might be other alternatives.

    Do other people in your vicinity have ADSL?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    PS My 56k connection today hit its highest in a year 44k for 3 months during the summer it ran between 28k & 37k...................they are probably laughing at me in the Ukraine.................even when the russian were in charge they probably had faster connections lol

    44k at over a mile out should get you a pass , 28k-37k means your line is not good enough.

    You should look at the followiing ways to improve your internal wiring (and pass)

    1. Disconnect all internal wiring save the socket inside the door (run an extension from your modem straight to it) does this up speed or give you constant 44k ?

    2. Keep sky boxes disconnected as much as possible, hook up one or twice a week, also phones with displays, off with them. CLI boxes too.

    3. Get someone who knows what they are doing to wire your internal sockets IN SERIES not in parallel , reconnect to main socket, does this give you better speeds.

    You are marginal for BB not a 12k dialup disaster so do what you can to help yourself


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54,941 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    I'm in the same ****ing shoes. I live about 6 kilometers from my exchange also, although mine hasn't been upgraded yet. My only hope is wireless broadband. I really believe the Government needs to step in. I DON'T want them to give Eircon money though. They need to get those exchanges opened up and some kind of tax incentive to the operators if they give rural Ireland Broadband access. The situation now really sucks.:mad:
    im the same but closer to the exchange

    but i live in a village

    will the villages exchanges ever be enabled does any one know ?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    will the villages exchanges ever be enabled does any one know ?

    Most of these villages will be live in the next 3 months if not live already . The staff on 1800503303 have a list of exchanges in the pipeline as well as live .


    A
    ABBEYLEIX
    ABBEYDORNEY
    ACHILL SOUND
    ACLARE
    ADARE
    ANNAGARY
    ARDARA
    ARDFERT
    ARDRAHAN
    ARVAGH
    ASKEATON
    AUGHRIM
    AVOCA
    B
    BALLINAGH
    BALLINALEE
    BALLINHASSIG
    BALLINSPITTLE
    BALLINTRA
    BALLIVOR
    BALLYBOGHIL
    BALLYCARNEY
    BALLYCONNELL
    BALLYCULLANE
    BALLYDEHOB
    BALLYFARNAN
    BALLYGARRET
    BALLYGLUNIN
    BALLYHAUNIS
    BALLYHEIGE
    BALLYMACELLIGOTT
    BALLYMOTE
    BALLYRAGGET
    BALLYSPILLANE
    BALLYVARY
    BALTINGLASS
    BANSHA
    BELTURBET
    BENNETTSBRIDGE
    BERRINGS
    BLIARY
    BORRIS
    BRIDGE END
    BRITTAS
    BRITTAS BAY BRIDGE
    BROADFORD
    BRUFF
    BUNCLODY
    BUTTEVANT
    C
    CAHIRCIVEEN
    CALLAN
    CAMPILE
    CARLINGFORD
    CARNEW
    CARRICK
    CARRIGNAVAR
    CASTLEBELLINGHAM
    CASTLECONNELL
    CASTLEDERMOT
    CASTLEFINN
    CASTLELYONS
    CASTLESHANE
    CLAREGALWAY
    CLARINA
    CLERISTOWN
    CLOGHEEN
    CLONTIBRET
    COACHFORD
    COLLON
    COLLOONEY
    CORROFIN
    COSTELLO
    CROOKSTOWN
    CROSSMOLINA
    CURRAGH CAMP
    D
    DAINGEAN
    DELVIN
    DONADEA
    DOON
    DRIMOLEAGUE
    DROMAHAIR
    DRUMLISH
    DRUMSHANBO
    DUNCANNON
    DUNFANAGHY
    DUNKINEELY
    DUNLEER
    DURRUS
    E
    EASKY
    EDGEWORTHSTOWN
    ELPHIN
    F
    FALCARRAGH
    FERBANE
    FOXFORD
    FOYNES
    G
    GEASHILL
    GLASSAN
    GLENNAMADDY
    GLENTIES
    GRENAGH
    H
    HOLYCROSS
    I
    INCH ST. LAWRENCE
    INVER
    INVERAN
    J
    JENKINSTOWN
    JOHNSTOWN
    K
    KILBEGGAN
    KILBRITTAIN
    KILCARN
    KILLALA
    KILLALOE
    KILLANN
    KILLAVULLEN
    KILLEAGH
    KILLENAULE
    KILLERISK
    KILMACTHOMAS
    KILMALLOCK
    KILMEADEN
    KILMINCHY
    KINGSCOURT
    KINNEGAD
    KNOCK
    KNOCKCROGHERY
    L
    LISDOONVARNA
    LISMORE
    LITTLETON
    M
    MANORHAMILTON
    MILFORD
    MILLSTREET
    MOONCOIN
    MOUNTBELLEW
    MOUNTRATH
    MOVILLE
    MOYCULLEN
    MULLAGH
    N
    NEWMARKET-ON-FERGUS
    NEWPORT
    NEWTOWN CUNNINGHAM O
    OLDCASTLE
    OMEATH
    OULART
    OYLGATE
    P
    PALLAS GREEN
    PASSAGE EAST
    PEDLAR'S CROSS
    PORTLAW
    PORTUMNA
    R
    RAMELTON
    RAVENSDALE
    RIVERSTICK
    RIVERSTOWN (Tipp)
    RIVERSTOWN (Sligo)
    ROCHFORTBRIDGE
    ROOSKEY
    ROSS CARBERRY
    ROSSLARE STRAND
    S
    SCARRIFF
    SCOTSTOWN
    SHANAGOLDEN
    SHINRONE
    SIXMILEBRIDGE
    SMITHBOROUGH
    SPIDDAL
    STRADBALLY
    STRADONE
    STRAFFAN
    STRANDHILL
    STROKESTOWN
    T
    TALLOW
    TAMNEY
    TARA
    TARBERT
    TEERANEA
    TINAHELY
    TOBERCURRY
    TOMHAGGARD
    V
    VIRGINIA
    W
    WATERGRASSHILL
    WATERVILLE
    WELLINGTON BRIDGE

    HTH


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54,941 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    Sponge Bob wrote:
    Most of these villages will be live in the next 3 months if not live already . The staff on 1800503303 have a list of exchanges in the pipeline as well as live .




    HTH
    i rang them they told me they will have an update of the list in february

    to bad my village isnt there

    the closes to me is bansha im only 15 - 20 mins away :(

    will every village be done in the future

    and does it matter that theres a primary school in my town?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    will every village be done in the future
    bY 2034, YES.
    and does it matter that theres a primary school in my town?
    So does everywhere, therefore no.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,042 ✭✭✭kaizersoze


    A
    ABBEYLEIX
    ABBEYDORNEY
    ACHILL SOUND
    ACLARE
    ADARE
    ANNAGARY
    ARDARA
    ARDFERT
    ARDRAHAN
    ARVAGH
    ASKEATON
    AUGHRIM
    AVOCA
    I presume thats Aughrim in Co. Wicklow or might it be Aughrim just outside Ballinasloe in Co. Galway?


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