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Help/Advice: Irish Broadband - Breeze 1MB Lite

  • 23-11-2004 7:36pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,918 ✭✭✭


    Hello everyone,

    On paper, the "Breeze 1MB Lite" package from Irish Broadband is exciting. Indeed, a 1 Mb Symmetrical connection with a 20:1 contention ratio and no download limit for less than €50 EUR per month sounds heavenly (and Eircom: p*** off with your line rental!!!).

    My worry: I need a fast internet connection because I play online games on European servers (pretty serious about it too). Those of you who do this know how important it is to have a low ping.
    At present, I have an IOL/EsatBT "Broadband Plus" connection but it remains a "slow" (sorry for those of you who don't have broadband in their area yet - hang in there!) 512k/128k connection with a 24:1 contention ratio and a download limit of 16GB per month. I get decent pings on UK (50ms) and French servers (between 70-80ms) but I'm looking for MUCH less (15-30ms would be ideal!).
    So off I go ringing Irish Broadband to ask "Will I have a good ping with a Breeze 1MB Lite connection?". The answer shocked me a little as it was "Yes, you will, better than your current connection". I was expecting something more like "No, sorry, the services we offer are not ideal for online gaming".

    So what I would like to know is: Was this Irish Broadband employee lying to me? Has anybody here got a "Breeze 1MB Lite" connection? If so, do you play online games? How's your ping? Would you recommend "Breeze 1MB Lite" to a friend?

    I'd love to have 1 Mb Symmetrical connection with a 20:1 contention ratio and no download limit for less than €50 EUR per month but I have to make sure my ping will be lower than the one I currently have with EsatBT! I mean it is, after all, a wireless connection so I'm worried... Can anybody help me with this?

    Thanks a million! :D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,630 ✭✭✭Blaster99


    The pings are outstanding with IBB's Breeze 1Mbps service. I don't know where the perception that fixed wireless means high latency came from. I'm sure if you name a few sites in this thread you'll get all the ping stats you ever wanted.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,414 ✭✭✭tom-thebox


    I have IBB paying the same price for the mbit line, for a half mbit with a 8 to 1 ratio.

    I must have them upgrade that to the 1 mbit.

    Anyhow I got half life 2 this week, and have been playing CS on it all week mainly on servers in the UK and Germany as I dont think there is any Irish ones up yet.

    The ping is about 60 to 80, which isnt great however I never really notice lag.

    To be honest the service from IBB has gone terrible over the last two months, my downloads use to be about 60 to 90 kbs now I am lucky to get 40kbs, 20 to 30 in most cases.

    I have mailed support@irishbroadband.ie and no one even bothers to get back to me.

    I am going to call them to see what they can do but if my company supplied this kind of service we would be out of business.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,943 ✭✭✭Mutant_Fruit


    the 5.8ghz VL gear offers pings as low as 20ms stable ingame in UK servers. You won't find a better service ping wise. The other equipments available from IBB aren't as good. Ripwave offers pings of about 130 ingame, and the 2.4ghz "breeze" equipment offers pings the same as good ADSL ingame (about 50-60ms).

    If you are a big gamer, make sure you get the VL gear, and you wont go wrong. But as always, there is a "line test" as such, if you have a ****e signal, nothing can fix it, so if you get it installed, and its ****e, considar that as "failing" the line test, and get the equipment removed and get your refund. No point in holding onto it in that case.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,321 ✭✭✭neokenzo


    I have the VL gear 1MB Breeze connection. Pings to UK server around 23-25. Dont notice any lag at all :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,432 ✭✭✭vasch_ro


    just got this service 1mb breeze lite today
    tell me how to ping certain sites or what ever and i will post results for you


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,698 ✭✭✭garthv


    find a games server
    open up DOS(start-run-cmd)
    type ping followed by whatever server
    look for the average ms and post it up


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,918 ✭✭✭Steffano2002


    Firstly, thank you all for replying so fast! I think I've just found the best Irish website ever! :D

    Blaster99: Sorry, I just thought (don't ask me why!) anything wireless was slower. I'm delighted to be wrong!

    tom-thebox: I hope you are one of the rare people having this problem and that it does not apply to those who have the 1MB package! Thanks for letting me know it's not perfect though...

    Mutant_Fruit - neokenzo: What is this VL gear? It's the first time I hear anything about it! I didn't see anything about it on the order form either... I better ring them to sort this out!
    Mutant_Fruit, thanks for the tip about the line test. I only want a fast connection for playing online games. If I have a poor ping, I don't want it. Plain and simple. I'll make sure they understand "MY" Terms & Conditions! ;)

    vasch_ro: Congratulations for getting the 1MB today (you lucky b*****d! lol). Could you please ping my Call of Duty server in France? IP is 194.146.225.42. Thanks a million! Here are my results with an EsatBT Broadband Plus connection:

    Pinging 194.146.225.42 with 32 bytes of data:

    Reply from 194.146.225.42: bytes=32 time=57ms TTL=56
    Reply from 194.146.225.42: bytes=32 time=55ms TTL=56
    Reply from 194.146.225.42: bytes=32 time=66ms TTL=56
    Reply from 194.146.225.42: bytes=32 time=54ms TTL=56

    Ping statistics for 194.146.225.42:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
    Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 54ms, Maximum = 66ms, Average = 58ms

    I hope you beat me easily!

    GaRtH_V thanks for helping vasch_ro!

    Can't wait to get a proper connection!!! Thanks again everyone! :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,414 ✭✭✭tom-thebox


    From IBB Breeze 8 to 1 ratio 512k

    Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
    (C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

    C:\Documents and Settings\tom>ping 194.146.225.42

    Pinging 194.146.225.42 with 32 bytes of data:

    Reply from 194.146.225.42: bytes=32 time=221ms TTL=53
    Reply from 194.146.225.42: bytes=32 time=95ms TTL=53
    Reply from 194.146.225.42: bytes=32 time=395ms TTL=53
    Reply from 194.146.225.42: bytes=32 time=33ms TTL=53

    Ping statistics for 194.146.225.42:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
    Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 33ms, Maximum = 395ms, Average = 186ms

    C:\Documents and Settings\tom>


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,321 ✭✭✭neokenzo


    Here's mine:

    Pinging 194.146.225.42 with 32 bytes of data:

    Reply from 194.146.225.42: bytes=32 time=22ms TTL=55
    Reply from 194.146.225.42: bytes=32 time=27ms TTL=55
    Reply from 194.146.225.42: bytes=32 time=22ms TTL=55
    Reply from 194.146.225.42: bytes=32 time=26ms TTL=55

    Ping statistics for 194.146.225.42:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
    Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 22ms, Maximum = 27ms, Average = 24ms


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,414 ✭✭✭tom-thebox


    Depends on where you are from their kit, to be quite honest with you matey your ping anit bad with IOL why take the risk on Irish Broad Band, I and many others on this forum find crap.

    If they answered their support mail that would be a start.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,943 ✭✭✭Mutant_Fruit


    my pings (on the VL equpiment, 1 meg):

    Ping statistics for 194.146.225.42:
    Packets: Sent = 26, Received = 25, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
    Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 23ms, Maximum = 34ms, Average = 25ms
    Control-Break

    For boards.ie:
    Ping statistics for 82.195.131.130:
    Packets: Sent = 22, Received = 22, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
    Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 7ms, Maximum = 21ms, Average = 11ms
    Control-Break

    For clarity.jolt.co.uk:
    Ping statistics for 195.149.21.11:
    Packets: Sent = 23, Received = 23, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
    Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 18ms, Maximum = 39ms, Average = 25ms
    Control-Break


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 151 ✭✭MackQ


    IBB 1MB; 20:1; Bray High Site; 23/11/04 01:15

    C:\>ping 194.146.225.42

    Pinging 194.146.225.42 with 32 bytes of data:

    Reply from 194.146.225.42: bytes=32 time=50ms TTL=51
    Reply from 194.146.225.42: bytes=32 time=30ms TTL=51
    Reply from 194.146.225.42: bytes=32 time=30ms TTL=51
    Reply from 194.146.225.42: bytes=32 time=30ms TTL=51

    Ping statistics for 194.146.225.42:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
    Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 30ms, Maximum = 50ms, Average = 35ms


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,918 ✭✭✭Steffano2002


    Thank you all for your feedback! :D

    Apart from Tom, you all have fantastic ping results and seem to be pretty happy with IBB's service! I'm just hoping I have a good "line of sight" (the closest transmitter is at the Guinness brewery which is less than 1 km away but I'm not sure I can "see" it from my house...). :(

    For those of you who have great ping results: How far are you from your transmitter? Do you have that "VL gear" (still don't know what it is :confused: )?

    Tom, I'm not risking anything here cos as Mutant Fruit advised, if I have a poor ping, I will consider it a "line test failure" and cancel the subscription straight away.

    Thanks again for all your help/feedback/ping test results! ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,630 ✭✭✭Blaster99


    You may consider it a failure, but that's not to say that IBB will agree with you, at least not easily. If you're close to the mast, you don't necessarily need line of sight as it happens.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,297 ✭✭✭joolsveer


    I've got Breeze 512K.

    C:\>ping 194.146.225.42

    Pinging 194.146.225.42 with 32 bytes of data:

    Reply from 194.146.225.42: bytes=32 time=26ms TTL=52
    Reply from 194.146.225.42: bytes=32 time=74ms TTL=52
    Reply from 194.146.225.42: bytes=32 time=26ms TTL=52
    Reply from 194.146.225.42: bytes=32 time=26ms TTL=52

    Ping statistics for 194.146.225.42:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
    Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 26ms, Maximum = 74ms, Average = 38ms

    C:\>ping 194.146.225.42

    Pinging 194.146.225.42 with 32 bytes of data:

    Reply from 194.146.225.42: bytes=32 time=26ms TTL=52
    Reply from 194.146.225.42: bytes=32 time=41ms TTL=52
    Reply from 194.146.225.42: bytes=32 time=30ms TTL=52
    Reply from 194.146.225.42: bytes=32 time=29ms TTL=52

    Ping statistics for 194.146.225.42:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
    Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 26ms, Maximum = 41ms, Average = 31ms

    Boards.ie
    C:\>ping 82.195.131.130

    Pinging 82.195.131.130 with 32 bytes of data:

    Reply from 82.195.131.130: bytes=32 time=19ms TTL=58
    Reply from 82.195.131.130: bytes=32 time=26ms TTL=58
    Reply from 82.195.131.130: bytes=32 time=10ms TTL=58
    Reply from 82.195.131.130: bytes=32 time=12ms TTL=58

    Ping statistics for 82.195.131.130:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
    Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 10ms, Maximum = 26ms, Average = 16ms


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,857 ✭✭✭Bogger77


    tom-thebox wrote:
    Depends on where you are from their kit, to be quite honest with you matey your ping anit bad with IOL why take the risk on Irish Broad Band, I and many others on this forum find crap.

    If they answered their support mail that would be a start.


    Tom, call them, it's the best way (and only way sometimes) to get an answer from them


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,918 ✭✭✭Steffano2002


    Blaster99 wrote:
    You may consider it a failure, but that's not to say that IBB will agree with you, at least not easily.
    Hi Blaster, I know IBB will not be happy if I tell them I no longer want to subscribe to their services because I have a poor ping but that's just the way it's going to be. I rang them and they told me I'd have a better ping than with my EsatBT Broadband Plus connection. To me, this is a verbal agreement. And I wrote that on my application form too! :D
    Blaster99 wrote:
    If you're close to the mast, you don't necessarily need line of sight as it happens.
    Are you sure? this is what I read on IBB's information document:

    "What is a line of sight?
    For our Breeze service to work the customer antenna must have an unobstructed view – ‘line of sight’ of our nearby base station. This is because our base stations operate at extremely low power output – unlike mobile phone signals they cannot penetrate walls. Before installation, our technician will visit your premises and carry out this test." :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,630 ✭✭✭Blaster99


    Yes I am sure. But it depends on what's in your way and how close you are. There's no point in speculating about it here, they will test it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,523 ✭✭✭machalla


    A verbal agreement as the old saying goes isn't worth the paper its written on. If you check the terms and conditions of the breeze home do you see anything in there that guarantees you will have very low pings to gaming servers? I've never seen it anyway.

    It is not really an adequate reason to cancel the service (not to mention you will have the installation cost of €150 regardless). It is a product with a 12 month contract and I believe there will be a disconnection fee (coming out and taking down the aerial) if you cancel before the end of your contract (I'm not 100% on how true this part is though so don't take it as gospel). Not to mention paying off the remainder of the contract as well for the 12 month period.

    Either Breeze home or NTL are generally acknowledged as the two best BB packages available (apart from some of the cable BB available in limited parts of the country) in this digital backwater. I would leap at the chance of being able to get either of them but then I'm not a big gamer these days (dial-up not being exactly fun for online gaming).

    Don't expect any ISP to guarantee something that isn't in the contract. I'm just warning you before you leap into something you might consider inadequate. You will end up costing yourself money if you want to break out of the contract.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,414 ✭✭✭tom-thebox


    Thank you all for your feedback! :D

    Apart from Tom, you all have fantastic ping results and seem to be pretty happy with IBB's service! I'm just hoping I have a good "line of sight" (the closest transmitter is at the Guinness brewery which is less than 1 km away but I'm not sure I can "see" it from my house...).

    Just to point out I am on the Guinness Brewery too, I live in Arbour Hill. I can see Guinness from one of the front bedrooms in my home.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,918 ✭✭✭Steffano2002


    Thanks for your replies! ;)

    To be honest, I'm only getting this IBB connection because I want a good ping. I ring IBB, they said I'll have a good ping. That's good enough for me. If I don't have a good ping I will consider that I have been lied to. And hopefully it won't cost too much too cancel the subscription... Ah sure we'll see. "Qui ne tente rien n'a rien" as we say in french!

    Tom, are you telling me the problem could be due to a poor transmitter at the Guinness Brewery? :( I'd be gutted if that was the case! Did you ring IBB? What did they say? Any luck? I can't see the brewery from my street but I'm quite sure it's visible from my roof. Anybody else using this particular transmitter? How's your ping?

    By the way, I rang IBB this morning and they told me the "VL gear" was the name of the technology of the Breeze 1MB Lite connection so they said I'll have it automatically.

    And then I asked about the antenna but the girl on the phone wasn't sure about what it looked like... Is it a dish (like the one used for Sky Digital)? Is it more like a conventional antenna (long and narrow)? Just want to know if it was a massive heavy thing that required 25 bolts or just a small dish that require 4 bolts...

    Thanks in advance! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,523 ✭✭✭machalla


    You should check with them before they install what the story would be if the pings are inadequate. Or at least what the disconnection costs would be.

    Then antennae goes on the roof and seems be about a metre or so tall with a small little diamond shaped dish at the top of it. It looks pretty light overall and I don't think it needs loads of bolts or the like. Of course I've only seen this from a distance on my friends house.

    Best of luck with it anyway.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,630 ✭✭✭Blaster99


    They use a pole that's about a meter tall and on a normal house they use a chimney bracket with a strap, the same way a TV aerial is normally installed. On industrial buildings I've seen them bolted to the side of the building. The aerial/dish is probably about 40x40cm, possibly smaller.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,918 ✭✭✭Steffano2002


    machalla: I will make sure to contact IBB before they send out the engineer. I'm really hoping I won't have to cancel the subsription in the first place!

    machalla - Blaster99: Thanks for letting me know. I now know what to expect. I thought it was either a dish or an antenna... Now I know it's both! :D
    The IBB guy I had on the phone yesterday said the dish was 1 ft x 1 ft (30cm x 30cm) but he never said anything about an antenna...

    I really hope I have that "line of sight"!!! :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,414 ✭✭✭tom-thebox


    I am going to call them now and see what they say I will update you all, by the way I can see guiness and the arial from the front bedroom in my house.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,918 ✭✭✭Steffano2002


    tom-thebox wrote:
    I am going to call them now and see what they say I will update you all, by the way I can see guiness and the arial from the front bedroom in my house.
    That's why I'm worried Tom... I mean, you can see the transmitter but yet you're having connection problems! And I can't even see the bloody thing...

    I'm really hoping that this particular transmitter is fine! Perhaps if you upgrade to the "Breeze 1MB Lite" package all your problems will disappear? (Wishful thinking)

    Are you sure you are not having an issue with your modem/router/firewall/PC?

    Thanks for getting in touch with IBB Tom! I really hope they sort all this out! :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,630 ✭✭✭Blaster99


    Looks like there are some problems on IBB's network. Massive ping spike on the RTE mast. Anyone else seeing these? Performance is pretty crap across the board as well, but what's new.

    1 192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1) 0.708 ms 0.689 ms 0.638 ms
    2 bray-vl-vlan-1.irishbroadband.ie (62.231.50.193) 2.916 ms 3.272 ms 2.866 ms
    3 62.231.32.238 (62.231.32.238) 5.316 ms 8.100 ms 12.270 ms
    4 62.231.52.34 (62.231.52.34) 11.359 ms 11.796 ms 12.623 ms
    5 3rock-et-2-4.irishbroadband.ie (62.231.32.149) 11.891 ms 54.197 ms 23.482 ms
    6 rte-et-2-7.irishbroadband.ie (62.231.32.182) 181.838 ms 171.102 ms 163.683 ms
    7 ix-et-1-1.irishbroadband.ie (195.26.12.61) 136.062 ms 129.985 ms 141.798 ms
    8 suez-inex.hosting365.ie (193.1.208.202) 158.479 ms 150.612 ms 140.787 ms
    9 boards.ie (82.195.131.130) 169.004 ms 154.942 ms 176.332 ms


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,315 ✭✭✭ballooba


    I notice from Blaster's tracert there the names of masts from bray to 3rock to rte.

    Do IBB link their backbone wirelessly via their high sites?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,918 ✭✭✭Steffano2002


    Not following all this now... Is IBB a bit of a "luck of the draw" service? Or does it depend on the day (sometimes good connection, sometimes no connection at all...)?

    I'm getting a little worried here... :o


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,315 ✭✭✭ballooba


    Oops... forgot this was a thread about Breeze.

    I'm on ripwave steffano, different kettle of fish. Cheaper but pretty poxy.

    Question about high sites is valid but I'll edit out the rest.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,414 ✭✭✭tom-thebox


    Are you sure you are not having an issue with your modem/router/firewall/PC?

    I am a web host, I run large scale networks for a living. :) In my home its a simple network connection going directly into a windows xp box which has a firewall locally thats it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,414 ✭✭✭tom-thebox


    I was waiting for their support for over 15 mins I hung up as I had work to do.

    I mailed their support again last night and pasted a link to this post in it.

    They still have not gotten back to me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,630 ✭✭✭Blaster99


    The main reason to not move from ADSL is that Eircom in particular runs a very good show. IBB is all over the place, but the pings are usually very good. This is the first time I've noticed really bad pings and it's still bad by the way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,918 ✭✭✭Steffano2002


    ballooba: Thanks for scaring the sh*t out of me! lol :D

    tom-thebox: So you're a web host? Good, then I can exclude the possibility that the problem lies with your set-up! Thanks for trying to contact IBB also. Hopefully they'll get back to you! And sort this mess out!

    Blaster99: I'm with EsatBT at the moment. I'm happy enough although my ping is poor for the past 2 days for some reason (doesn't usually happen)... :o

    Now a question for all of you with an IBB "Breeze 1MB Lite" connection: Are you happy with your ping? Any of you having problems? I am aware of Tom's issue (which really annoys me cos it's the same transmitter I'll be using) and I'm aware of the issues with Ripware but does anybody with a Breeze 1MB Lite connection have problems?

    Thanks again! And sorry for all the questions, I know I'm a pain! ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,321 ✭✭✭neokenzo


    I've only got mine a week now. Pings are good all the time. My download speed at the begining was slow. Never more than 60kBps and usually around 20-30kBps but I rang customer service and they fixed it. Now my download speeds are about 120kBps. I have rang their customer service a couple of times and I must say they are helpful. Only problem is you have to wait 15-20 minutes on their 1890 number before someone its your turn. I am on the VL 1MB Breeze 8:1 contention.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,630 ✭✭✭gline


    im on breeze 1meg lite, Im getting pings on Ut2k4 servers as low as 20, i dont know where these servers are based though, must be europe for pings that low. I havnt had a problem playing online games, smooth as can be. ut i agree with some of the posts here, if it aint broke dont fix it, if your connection is good, keep it. No point in getting iol disconneted and trying another if you may have to be reconnected again or trey and break another 1 year contract. If your having no problems with IOL , stick with them , less hassle


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,918 ✭✭✭Steffano2002


    neokenzo: Glad to hear you're happy with IBB! Question though: How did you get a 8:1 contention ratio? I thought it was 20:1? Did you have to make a special request? Are you paying more?

    gline: Quote: "If your having no problems with IOL , stick with them , less hassle" - But I am having problems! A ping of 70-80ms on my server in France IS a problem for me! I take my online gaming very seriously (sorry if I sound sad) and when I play European Clan Base wars against teams that have a ping of 20-30ms I can't keep up! Ping is a massive issue for me!

    Furthermore, let me compare EsatBT's Broadband Plus package to IBB's Breeze 1MB Lite:

    Price: IBB is €2 EUR more expensive. But no phone line required! Bye bye Eircom Line rental of €40 EUR every two months!

    Connection: 512k/128k with EsatBT - 1MB/1MB with IBB: enough said

    Download Limit: 16GB with EsatBT - No limit with IBB: enough said

    Ping: Look at yours, look at mine... Enough said

    Contention Ration: 24:1 with EsatBT - potentially 8:1 with IBB: enough said

    Download Speed: With EsatBT I get around 50kBps - neokenzo gets around 120kBps

    Where's the risk??? Yeah sure I might not be as lucky as neokenzo here, but hell, I'm going to find out for sure! :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,414 ✭✭✭tom-thebox


    Since this post the connection has gotten a lot faster. Maybe mailing them the link was a good idea.

    Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
    (C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

    C:\Documents and Settings\tom>ping 194.146.225.42

    Pinging 194.146.225.42 with 32 bytes of data:

    Reply from 194.146.225.42: bytes=32 time=33ms TTL=53
    Reply from 194.146.225.42: bytes=32 time=36ms TTL=53
    Reply from 194.146.225.42: bytes=32 time=35ms TTL=53
    Reply from 194.146.225.42: bytes=32 time=35ms TTL=53

    Ping statistics for 194.146.225.42:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
    Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 33ms, Maximum = 36ms, Average = 34ms

    C:\Documents and Settings\tom>ping 194.146.225.42

    Pinging 194.146.225.42 with 32 bytes of data:

    Reply from 194.146.225.42: bytes=32 time=33ms TTL=53
    Reply from 194.146.225.42: bytes=32 time=42ms TTL=53
    Reply from 194.146.225.42: bytes=32 time=37ms TTL=53
    Reply from 194.146.225.42: bytes=32 time=73ms TTL=53

    Ping statistics for 194.146.225.42:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
    Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 33ms, Maximum = 73ms, Average = 46ms

    C:\Documents and Settings\tom>ping 194.146.225.42#
    ^C
    C:\Documents and Settings\tom>ping 194.146.225.42#
    Ping request could not find host 194.146.225.42#. Please check the name and try
    again.

    C:\Documents and Settings\tom>

    C:\Documents and Settings\tom>ping 194.146.225.42

    Pinging 194.146.225.42 with 32 bytes of data:

    Reply from 194.146.225.42: bytes=32 time=36ms TTL=53
    Reply from 194.146.225.42: bytes=32 time=33ms TTL=53
    Reply from 194.146.225.42: bytes=32 time=34ms TTL=53
    Reply from 194.146.225.42: bytes=32 time=32ms TTL=53

    Ping statistics for 194.146.225.42:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
    Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 32ms, Maximum = 36ms, Average = 33ms

    C:\Documents and Settings\tom>


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,321 ✭✭✭neokenzo


    neokenzo: Glad to hear you're happy with IBB! Question though: How did you get a 8:1 contention ratio? I thought it was 20:1? Did you have to make a special request? Are you paying more?

    You can see it here in their business section. However it is slightly dearer than the 20:1. It works out €84.70 per month.

    Edit: I used to be with Eircom's 1MB and I was getting pings of 90-105 playing on a UK server and now I'm getting about 23-25. Thing is Eircom's 1MB line has interleaving high I think and thats why the ping is high. The 512kb line pings are about 40-60 on UK server.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,918 ✭✭✭Steffano2002


    Hi neokenzo!

    Well then it's going to have to be €70 EUR/month! ;)

    I was also told IBB was offering a 2MB service for slightly more: around €90/month. But on their website the price is €135/month... Anybody knows anything about that?

    Man I'm so excited! I hope everything turns out perfectly for me! :cool:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,321 ✭✭✭neokenzo


    €70 per month not including VAT. The 2MB is €99 for 20:1 contention and €135 for 8:1 contention. Both doesnt include VAT.

    Hope it works out for you :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,630 ✭✭✭Blaster99


    If you've convinced yourself that IBB is worth going with, start with the 20:1 1Mbps service and then upgrade if required. A lot of people are seemingly happy with the 20:1 service. It's just a config setting to bump up the speed.

    Pings are back to normal now, by the way.

    1 192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1) 0.702 ms 0.716 ms 0.888 ms
    2 bray-vl-vlan-1.irishbroadband.ie (62.231.50.193) 2.867 ms 3.261 ms 3.041 ms
    3 62.231.32.238 (62.231.32.238) 7.883 ms 4.329 ms 12.406 ms
    4 62.231.52.34 (62.231.52.34) 6.783 ms 7.319 ms 12.274 ms
    5 3rock-et-2-4.irishbroadband.ie (62.231.32.149) 11.249 ms 13.414 ms 7.536 ms
    6 rte-et-2-7.irishbroadband.ie (62.231.32.182) 13.940 ms 8.815 ms 10.877 ms
    7 ix-et-1-1.irishbroadband.ie (195.26.12.61) 17.153 ms 12.406 ms 15.942 ms
    8 suez-inex.hosting365.ie (193.1.208.202) 15.375 ms 14.245 ms 20.496 ms
    9 boards.ie (82.195.131.130) 29.121 ms 19.235 ms 16.978 ms


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,630 ✭✭✭Blaster99


    Re the pings, it's seemingly coming and going. Pretty bad now. Obviously some capacity problem and the problem is dependent on demand.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 370 ✭✭Adey2002


    My pings are always bad during the day, it does get better between 17:30 - 19:30 (ish) then goes bad again until late in the evening. I believe this is due to throttling during the day for the Business Customers and then during busy periods in the evening. Basically the times you would want a decent connection.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,630 ✭✭✭Blaster99


    I presume by "throttling" you mean contention. I'm a business customer as it happens. I can't imagine that they bother distinguishing between types of customers, now that everyone pays the same. I'm sure they just setup EIR/CIR settings and let the thing run itself.

    I've never seen pings on the internal network go over 50ms before. I can't say I have monitored it much, but I've noticed sudden spikes the last day or so. I tend to get pretty decent performance during the day and it gets gradually worse later in the evening.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 167 ✭✭SpooN_9k


    just ordered the breeze 1mb line a few days ago because i found the ripwave 512kp line to be a disaster....i found their costumer sevice very helpfull btw....

    this thread has put my heart to rest as i was only hoping this new connection was going to be better :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,441 ✭✭✭✭jesus_thats_gre


    Ping results on IBB Breeze Lite





    Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
    (C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

    C:\Documents and Settings\Luke>ping www.boards.ie -n 10

    Pinging www.boards.ie [82.195.131.130] with 32 bytes of data:

    Reply from 82.195.131.130: bytes=32 time=15ms TTL=59
    Reply from 82.195.131.130: bytes=32 time=17ms TTL=59
    Reply from 82.195.131.130: bytes=32 time=19ms TTL=59
    Reply from 82.195.131.130: bytes=32 time=27ms TTL=59
    Reply from 82.195.131.130: bytes=32 time=17ms TTL=59
    Reply from 82.195.131.130: bytes=32 time=48ms TTL=59
    Reply from 82.195.131.130: bytes=32 time=27ms TTL=59
    Reply from 82.195.131.130: bytes=32 time=19ms TTL=59
    Reply from 82.195.131.130: bytes=32 time=24ms TTL=59
    Reply from 82.195.131.130: bytes=32 time=21ms TTL=59

    Ping statistics for 82.195.131.130:
    Packets: Sent = 10, Received = 10, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
    Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 15ms, Maximum = 48ms, Average = 23ms

    C:\Documents and Settings\Luke>ping www.jolt.co.uk -n 10

    Pinging clarity.jolt.co.uk [195.149.21.11] with 32 bytes of data:

    Reply from 195.149.21.11: bytes=32 time=43ms TTL=57
    Reply from 195.149.21.11: bytes=32 time=30ms TTL=57
    Reply from 195.149.21.11: bytes=32 time=42ms TTL=57
    Reply from 195.149.21.11: bytes=32 time=33ms TTL=57
    Reply from 195.149.21.11: bytes=32 time=25ms TTL=57
    Reply from 195.149.21.11: bytes=32 time=24ms TTL=57
    Reply from 195.149.21.11: bytes=32 time=33ms TTL=57
    Reply from 195.149.21.11: bytes=32 time=36ms TTL=57
    Reply from 195.149.21.11: bytes=32 time=34ms TTL=57
    Reply from 195.149.21.11: bytes=32 time=33ms TTL=57

    Ping statistics for 195.149.21.11:
    Packets: Sent = 10, Received = 10, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
    Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 24ms, Maximum = 43ms, Average = 33ms

    C:\Documents and Settings\Luke>


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 370 ✭✭Adey2002


    heres my results on Breeze Home+ (512,8 to 1 contention) late evening (23:06) Probably the best results I get without staying up until after midnight... I will do it again tomorrow at 8pm and show the results, (which will be worse)....

    Pinging www.boards.ie [82.195.131.130] with 32 bytes of d

    Reply from 82.195.131.130: bytes=32 time=127ms TTL=58
    Reply from 82.195.131.130: bytes=32 time=47ms TTL=58
    Reply from 82.195.131.130: bytes=32 time=148ms TTL=58
    Reply from 82.195.131.130: bytes=32 time=41ms TTL=58
    Reply from 82.195.131.130: bytes=32 time=131ms TTL=58
    Reply from 82.195.131.130: bytes=32 time=217ms TTL=58
    Reply from 82.195.131.130: bytes=32 time=39ms TTL=58
    Reply from 82.195.131.130: bytes=32 time=25ms TTL=58
    Reply from 82.195.131.130: bytes=32 time=73ms TTL=58
    Reply from 82.195.131.130: bytes=32 time=213ms TTL=58
    Reply from 82.195.131.130: bytes=32 time=28ms TTL=58
    Reply from 82.195.131.130: bytes=32 time=123ms TTL=58
    Reply from 82.195.131.130: bytes=32 time=88ms TTL=58
    Reply from 82.195.131.130: bytes=32 time=28ms TTL=58
    Reply from 82.195.131.130: bytes=32 time=176ms TTL=58
    Reply from 82.195.131.130: bytes=32 time=44ms TTL=58
    Reply from 82.195.131.130: bytes=32 time=115ms TTL=58
    Reply from 82.195.131.130: bytes=32 time=129ms TTL=58
    Reply from 82.195.131.130: bytes=32 time=82ms TTL=58
    Reply from 82.195.131.130: bytes=32 time=49ms TTL=58
    Reply from 82.195.131.130: bytes=32 time=44ms TTL=58
    Reply from 82.195.131.130: bytes=32 time=21ms TTL=58
    Reply from 82.195.131.130: bytes=32 time=32ms TTL=58

    and

    Pinging clarity.jolt.co.uk [195.149.21.11] with 32 bytes of data:

    Reply from 195.149.21.11: bytes=32 time=123ms TTL=56
    Reply from 195.149.21.11: bytes=32 time=141ms TTL=56
    Reply from 195.149.21.11: bytes=32 time=121ms TTL=56
    Reply from 195.149.21.11: bytes=32 time=143ms TTL=56
    Reply from 195.149.21.11: bytes=32 time=166ms TTL=56
    Reply from 195.149.21.11: bytes=32 time=71ms TTL=56
    Reply from 195.149.21.11: bytes=32 time=154ms TTL=56
    Reply from 195.149.21.11: bytes=32 time=133ms TTL=56
    Reply from 195.149.21.11: bytes=32 time=55ms TTL=56
    Reply from 195.149.21.11: bytes=32 time=63ms TTL=56
    Reply from 195.149.21.11: bytes=32 time=129ms TTL=56
    Reply from 195.149.21.11: bytes=32 time=133ms TTL=56
    Reply from 195.149.21.11: bytes=32 time=167ms TTL=56
    Reply from 195.149.21.11: bytes=32 time=164ms TTL=56
    Reply from 195.149.21.11: bytes=32 time=36ms TTL=56
    Reply from 195.149.21.11: bytes=32 time=38ms TTL=56
    Reply from 195.149.21.11: bytes=32 time=43ms TTL=56
    Reply from 195.149.21.11: bytes=32 time=145ms TTL=56
    Reply from 195.149.21.11: bytes=32 time=141ms TTL=56
    Reply from 195.149.21.11: bytes=32 time=76ms TTL=56


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,321 ✭✭✭neokenzo


    Mine at 11.16pm :)

    Pinging www.boards.ie [82.195.131.130] with 32 bytes of data:

    Reply from 82.195.131.130: bytes=32 time=4ms TTL=61
    Reply from 82.195.131.130: bytes=32 time=8ms TTL=61
    Reply from 82.195.131.130: bytes=32 time=4ms TTL=61
    Reply from 82.195.131.130: bytes=32 time=4ms TTL=61
    Reply from 82.195.131.130: bytes=32 time=4ms TTL=61
    Reply from 82.195.131.130: bytes=32 time=5ms TTL=61
    Reply from 82.195.131.130: bytes=32 time=7ms TTL=61
    Reply from 82.195.131.130: bytes=32 time=6ms TTL=61
    Reply from 82.195.131.130: bytes=32 time=4ms TTL=61
    Reply from 82.195.131.130: bytes=32 time=6ms TTL=61

    Ping statistics for 82.195.131.130:
    Packets: Sent = 10, Received = 10, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
    Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 4ms, Maximum = 8ms, Average = 5ms

    Pinging clarity.jolt.co.uk [195.149.21.11] with 32 bytes of data:

    Reply from 195.149.21.11: bytes=32 time=15ms TTL=59
    Reply from 195.149.21.11: bytes=32 time=15ms TTL=59
    Reply from 195.149.21.11: bytes=32 time=13ms TTL=59
    Reply from 195.149.21.11: bytes=32 time=17ms TTL=59
    Reply from 195.149.21.11: bytes=32 time=14ms TTL=59
    Reply from 195.149.21.11: bytes=32 time=15ms TTL=59
    Reply from 195.149.21.11: bytes=32 time=15ms TTL=59
    Reply from 195.149.21.11: bytes=32 time=16ms TTL=59
    Reply from 195.149.21.11: bytes=32 time=15ms TTL=59
    Reply from 195.149.21.11: bytes=32 time=14ms TTL=59

    Ping statistics for 195.149.21.11:
    Packets: Sent = 10, Received = 10, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
    Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 13ms, Maximum = 17ms, Average = 14ms


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,441 ✭✭✭✭jesus_thats_gre


    Where you based NeoKenzo? I am in Leopardstown..


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