Is a Pie the same as a Tart?

whatsgoin'on

This question has puzzeled me manys a time.
I gotta know the answer,just gotta!
Can anyone put my mind to rest before I go insane?

Mr. Presentable

A pie is covered, a tart is open. Think apple pie, jam tart.

PH01

Well, where I grew up all the tarts are covered up!
And 'Pies' is American for Tarts.

jonnybadd

As far as i know a pie is savoury i.e. steak and kidney while a tart is well tart, i.e. with a fruit filling

Blisterman

No, pies are closed, tarts are open. With the exception of shepards pie, which isn't really a pie.

MidnightQueen

Has anyone ever tried chocolate tart covered with cream? Now theres an idea

memphis

Tarts are what the American call Pies, they are not cakes!

woosaysdan

the only tarts i like are the ones after the disco

MidnightQueen

Are they chocolate and covered with cream??

445279.ie

An apple tart is closed, yet a jam tart is open!!!

PurpleFistMixer

Never fear! I looked them up in my trusty dictionary.

pie n. a baked dish of savoury or sweet ingredients encased in or topped with pastry.

tart, n. an open pastry case containing a sweet or savoury filling.

I think that's pretty conclusive.

SantaHoe

PurpleFistMixer wrote:

pie n. a baked dish of savoury or sweet ingredients encased in or topped with pastry.

tart, n. an open pastry case containing a sweet or savoury filling.

Yeah that's what I suspected alright.
Glad someone confirmed it though.

Caoimhe

Although if the tart has strips of pastry across it would it be considered a pie or a tart? Its half open half closed...

billy the squid

But then you have the anomoly of the apple tart which is closed, as is the rubharb tart.

and you have cream pies which are not covered.

dudara

to me, pie and tart have to do with depth and whether sweet or savoury.

Pie is savoury, or a deep filled sweet pastry.

A tart is shallow and always sweet.

but this isn't anyway close to being definitive

woosaysdan

dudara wrote:

A tart is shallow and always sweet.

thats like all the tarts i know!!!

Blisterman

Pop Tarts are closed too, so to answer your question I don't know.

PurpleFistMixer

I always called them apple and rhubarb pies, but usually it's crumble anyway and that's a different kettle of fish altogether.

To be safe I just call them all pies and leave it at that. Tart sounds far too complicated/sophisticated.

ferdi

Blisterman wrote:

With the exception of shepards pie, which isn't really a pie.

oh, its a pie alright.

wiw4

well look at it this way, your ma aint no pie, but she definitely a tart!

Tiriel

it's apple pie and ice-cream.. but it's rhubarb tart and custard...

that's how it is in Cork anyway

Healio

well having tested this thoroughly (american pie style), ive concluded they are different, the pie gives more pleasure than the tart for some reason.

Tiriel

cos it's nicer tart sounds dry and cardboardy.. pie sounds sweet and juicy..;) mmm

Healio

Cork_girl wrote:

cos it's nicer tart sounds dry and cardboardy.. pie sounds sweet and juicy..;) mmm

would you like to come over to mine for some pie so?

Tiriel

that kind of talk leads to gettin buns in the oven

Healio

Rofl

woosaysdan

that kind of talk leads to gettin buns in the oven

LOL

cos it's nicer tart sounds dry and cardboardy.. pie sounds sweet and juicy.. mmm

where i come from tarts are usually cheap!!!

Blisterman

Of course, mcdonalds apple pies aren't really pies either. I assume, we agree, pies need some sort of pastry or biscuit base.

PurpleFistMixer

The stuff mcd's sells probably couldn't be strictly classified as food let alone such a glorious foodgroup such as pie.

strat

dudara wrote:

to me, pie and tart have to do with depth and whether sweet or savoury.

Pie is savoury, or a deep filled sweet pastry.

A tart is shallow and always sweet.

this is indeed the correct answer

Caoimhe

Cork_girl wrote:

it's apple pie and ice-cream.. but it's rhubarb tart and custard...

that's how it is in Cork anyway

gack!
I despise ice cream with pie. Does nobody else think it ruins it?

Blisterman

I said in another thread, Pecan pie and icecream. Perfect combination.

Victor

Aren't tart meant to be tart, as in bitter?

Shrimp

Tart - A pastry shell with shallow sides, no top crust, and any of various fillings.

Pie - A baked food composed of a pastry shell filled with fruit, meat, cheese, or other ingredients, and usually covered with a pastry crust.

Shrimp

34 posts.. Almost a month later.. I think we can safely say... Case Closed...

"And thats the end of that chapter"

(insert name)

i always thought that a pie just had a deeper dish than a tart. however the terms are often used interchangebly

Shrimp

Hey man.. you better shorten your sig.. hahaha