How NOT to ask questions in Programming

ontargetrepairs

i put this site together...took me around 4 months to get it running right, eh its used as a homepage so you dont have to use the same search engine anyway let me know what you think... www.davesworldweb.com

Hobbes

Doesn't work properly, and has nothing to do with this forum unless you want someone to answer what the programming problem is.

Btw, just get firefox and all the search engines are built in.

ontargetrepairs

why dosent it work properly, it it has a use here or i supose your going to tell me java isnt a programing launguage ? or maybe you were hopping id say html is a programing lanuage ?

Creamy Goodness

well considering the fact that when i go to it it loads up but then goes to a msn search page.

hence making the convience of having google, yahoo, msn search all in one place useless.

btw it already is if a user uses firefox

L5

bit of advice, get rid of the clock that follows you around, noone appreciates stuff like that, its just annoying

pickarooney

Redirects to msn search after a couple of seconds. Bit of a waste of four months, to be honest, but I suppose any experience is good.

ontargetrepairs

I dont know why your being re-directed to Msn, i think thats somthing to do with your machine?.... and as for firefox, the whole idea of changing your entire browser just dosent appeal to me..... might be for some but if you do that your leaving yourself wide open to hackers and that sort of thing

UNIFLU

msn search didnt work, have google bar in my firefox page anyways, soz.

pickarooney

No, it's definitely bad coding, sorry.

ontargetrepairs

See the thing is with the website, is that yea can tell peoples location their I.P address, & loads of stuff....nearly everyone is using MSIE6 so i dont understand why it dosent work on some ppl's computers, anyone have any pointers ????

Creamy Goodness

ontargetrepairs wrote:

might be for some but if you do that your leaving yourself wide open to hackers and that sort of thing

ehh sorry no, sticking with IE leaves you in that situation, changing browser avoids that carry on

ontargetrepairs

pickarooney wrote:

No, it's definitely bad coding, sorry.

Ok, tell me how it has bad coding, dreamweaver say your wrong.... im dying to hear this

Healio

Nice design, pity about that damn stupid clock thingy.

dangerman

hah!!!

197 errors doesnt validate:

http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://homepage.eircom.net/~topicpsycology/SEARCHWEB1.html

Dreamweaver said your right! HOLY CRAP! :rolleyes:

Hobbes

Yea I agree. IE is a bigger security risk then any other browser. FireFox is also gaining market share since June/July. I wouldn't touch IE with a barge pole.

Search engine is built into firefox and you can create your own search plugins using XML. I created one for boards.ie.

As for your overall post, the reason it has nothing to do with this forum is you are not asking a programming question, you are pimping your site by spamming.

I submit for example...
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=198320
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=199781 (duplicate on same forum)
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=199783

seamus

Right.

When it loads up, you're being redirected to a horrible page:

http://homepage.eircom.net/~topicpsycology/SEARCHWEB1.html

The blatant stealing of code from other sites is obviously overridden by MSN search who then take control of the page, and redirect you to http://search.msn.com.

So either someone ****ed up in setting up the domain, or someone stuck their own ****e page in your site and pointed your domain at it.

The home page is a different size to all the other pages. The boxes move around when you leave/enter the homepage. Also that cute little doggie doesn't appear on the other pages.

The top nav bar links don't work in any browser. That clock is very annoying.

TBH, move to proper web hosting, work on the coding a bit more, and make the text a bit more readable, it's quite hard to read. Increase the text size by one or maybe two steps.

Half of your "useful links" aren't links at all. Why bother?

You're halfway there, but ways off a decent website, particularly when you're trying to advertise IT services.

blobert

Works fine for me.

I have to agree that the clock, while a novely for a few seconds, becomes quickly annoying.

Keyzer

1. The clock sucks and would make me close the page as soon as I see it...

2. I use slimbrowser from www.flashpeak.com, it has a built in search engine bar with 21 different search engines and from what people are saying here firefox has something similar so whats the point?

3. Simply is spelt wrong in the text stuff at the bottom.

4. Your mobile phone number is on the page - ARE YOU BONKERS?

ontargetrepairs

dangerman wrote:

hah!!!

197 errors doesnt validate:

http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://homepage.eircom.net/~topicpsycology/SEARCHWEB1.html

Dreamweaver said your right! HOLY CRAP! :rolleyes:

if yea have a copy of dream weaver why dont yea check for yourself... i did and as i said not a sing error!
That website didnt stated errors with the code but it poined to typos within the code i apperantly "stole" from the 3 search engines....

pickarooney

You're asking people to try your site, and when they tell you it doesn't work you tell them they're wrong and dreamweaver backs you up. Hmm. You can have every one of those search engines with one right-click in Opera.
Keep going at it, you may come up with something useful, but if you ask for feedback you should listen to what people are telling you.

aidan_walsh

ontargetrepairs wrote:

if yea have a copy of dream weaver why dont yea check for yourself... i did and as i said not a sing error!
That website didnt stated errors with the code but it poined to typos within the code i apperantly "stole" from the 3 search engines....

Yeah, because surely the people who defined HTML couldn't possibly know better that the people behind Dreamweaver...

ontargetrepairs

ah i am listening, like for instance, the clock is gone, type errors corrected, cant understand how its being re-directed to msn?

pickarooney

Can you put up a simple Hello World page on the server and give us the address (www.davesworld.com/hello.htm) for example. That way we would check if it's something in the page or something with the server that's messed up.

ontargetrepairs

yea ill do it but ill need to wait till my domain services sets it up might be 2 or 3 days ?, why is it being re-directed ?

oneweb

why do I have to type the search address into each one? And when I do, why does only one work? It's a nice idea for a page. Actually it's just an idea. I'll stick with Mozilla's integrated multiple-engine search.

monument

Cremo wrote:

hence making the convience of having google, yahoo, msn search all in one place useless.

Yeah the google search in FireFox changes with a simple pop down menu to dictionary.com, yahoo, ebay, wikipedia, amazon, and at the bottom of "add engines" directs to a site with plugins for imdb, other search engines and loads of sites.

It can’t kill you to try FireFox.

ontargetrepairs

I fixed the problem, eh i supose its all about preferance? who makes firefox, any spy-ware ???, whats it like for letting hackers in ? what about opera is it like that?

aidan_walsh

Man, when you rip code, you don't even look at what you're taking do you? The source is a real mess... Lots of unnecessary stuff commented out...

Listen, you want to use these services? If you dig a little deeper you'll find that a lot of them allow webmasters to link through their sites if you agree to use what they give you. What you aren't allowed to do however, is root through their source and copy what you like. Which is exactly what you've done. Go and take a look at these webmaster packages instead, they'll be a lot less upset with you that way.

aidan_walsh

ontargetrepairs wrote:

I fixed the problem, eh i supose its all about preferance? who makes firefox, any spy-ware ???, whats it like for letting hackers in ? what about opera is it like that?

Ok, you link to search engines and you can't even be bothered to use them!?

Oh, and one last thing, can this possibly be moved to the relevant forum at convenience? Thank you...

ontargetrepairs

What webmaster packages?,

why do yea think i dont use the links?

and what does a kerry man sound like when say's "Man, when you rip code".. ?
id love to know what that sounds like.....

aidan_walsh

http://www.google.com/searchcode.html is the Google one, you can go find the rest yourself...

Why do I think you don't look things up? Lets review, shall we?

who makes firefox, any spy-ware ???, whats it like for letting hackers in ? what about opera is it like that?

ontargetrepairs

why would i want to use that search bar when i have perfectly working one that fits the page ???? and now your critising me for asking a question.... The webpage works perfectly... i am just looking for pointers like what people think of the clock and that sort of thing.... i dont care in the slightest if some mad webpage thinks there a few typo's that dont make any difference.... dreamweaver is an industry standard and that will do fine for me.

Trojan

Spamming is when you post the same thread on different boards. Don't do it again.

Please read the charter and rules of the board, especially the part about how to ask questions.

Hobbes

Trojan was nice enough to unlock the thread. Some comments.

1. Firefox is a pretty famous browser, as is Opera. NEVER assume that everyone uses IE, because it is simply not true. What if you wanted a person who was blind to read your site? They don't use IE.

2. Firefox went gold today (v1.0). I tried your site with the latest version and the redirect seems to have vanished.

3. Never have your site only working with javascript. I am not sure if you have removed the annoying stuff people mentioned or it is the fact that I have annoying javascript blocked (nice feature in Firefox).

4. Likewise with adverts. I am not sure if your site has any because I have those blocked too.

5. Dreamweaver is not the industry standard. W3C is. Use the link that was posted earlier to test your work.

6. Your site looks to me like ripped code from search engine sites, and poorly ripped at that (google logo is wrong color to page). The site might be ok for you but it looks messy to the casual viewer. It also offers nothing that can't be done by bookmarks. Generally websites that only contains links away from the sites are dead sites.

7. All browsers now come with some form of search engine. IE has Yahoo/Google toolbars. Firefox has an excellent Search Engine that allows you to put your own in.

For example I made a post search for boards.ie (unzip to C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\searchplugins and restart firefox).

I would also recommend having a look at XUL (pronouced 'zool'). It is basically application development within a web page. So you could for example make one search window do a bot search across all engines, rather then having to type into each form.

Other then that for a complete beginner it is ok'ish.

ontargetrepairs

I see, well every sujestion that was made i i took heed (spelling??) and made the changes... as well as the colour of the google search, but i have to disagree with the what you said about bookmarks.... i find it alot faster my way and i have about 100 bookmarks and they list themselves alfabetically (spelling???) so that get confusing, also the point about zool, i find i get differnt results for each websearch i do with each engine.... so i like that. there are no adds only 3 links pop-ups or anything like that.

ontargetrepairs

Hobbes wrote:

5. Dreamweaver is not the industry standard. W3C is. Use the link that was posted earlier to test your work.

I never said it was THE industry standard but I did say "It is AN idustry standard"

seamus

ontargetrepairs wrote:

I never said it was THE industry standard but I did say "It is AN idustry standard"

What's the difference?

There's only one HTML*, ergo only one standard.

*Let's not get pedantic here

Trojan

Ontarget: you'll receive a little more respect on this board if you attempt to use correct spelling and grammar in your posts. Even if it's not your first language, using paragraphs and capitals would make it easier to read. Not asking for perfection, but it won't hurt to try a little. It also demonstrates to me that you did not read the charter and rules of the board.

Do so.

Syth

i have about 100 bookmarks and they list themselves alfabetically (spelling???) so that get confusing

Firefox can give a keyword to a bookmark, so that you can choose a memorable word for each bookmark and when you type that word into the address bar, it'll take you there. It's very handy.

And it's kinda pointless having more than one standard.

ontargetrepairs

trojan, Are you for real?

Hobbes

Dreamweaver does have a cross browser checking system if I recall though. You should use it.

Syth is correct. If you right click the bookmark properties you can add them.

Also here is a picture of the firefox search engine. I created four of the search engines myself very easily. You can also see how bad the google logo looks on the page.

MrVestek

Never in my life have i come across a more useless website. Just checked out the source, there is a hell of alot of html code there commented out making the page load alot longer. It's not much of an issue with somebody using broadband but for a dial up user it's a bit of an annoyance. Second of all, i'm sorry but most of the code on your site was completely stolen from the other site's source code, and how you could try claim otherwise is beyond me. Don't believe me? Ok, look at this

I'm sorry but that's just one of many examples of code stealage on your website.

ontargetrepairs

Someone give that man a hug..... i allready said i used code from the search engines.... :rolleyes:

Hobbes

If you click a link on the page (say google news) and click back button then the MSN search takes control again. I suspect MS have something to stop people stealing their code.

Not sure I would pay 250 for that page.

aidan_walsh

ontargetrepairs wrote:

trojan, Are you for real?

What with him being the forum moderator and all, I would have to say yes. Yes he is.

Here's another hint. See my signature, the bottom row of links? Read the first one, it might be of some use to us all.

ontargetrepairs

Hobbes wrote:

If you click a link on the page (say google news) and click back button then the MSN search takes control again. I suspect MS have something to stop people stealing their code.

Not sure I would pay 250 for that page.

How did you come to the conclutions that it cost 250?? or did you mean somthing else,

Ive tried all the links they work on my comp... ?i think there might be a problem with firefox and opera ????

Hobbes

the links work, it is when you click the back button.

It is less to do with a problem with firefox/opera and more to do with the hack job you have done on other peoples code.

I tried it in IE, it is insanely slow to load. At least FF clearly runs faster then IE.

jessy

ontargetrepairs wrote:

Ive tried all the links they work on my comp... ?i think there might be a problem with firefox and opera ????

Flush the temporary internet files on your machine, you say there must be something wrong with opera or firefox, possibly but the problem is with your coding. When your starting out coding it’s generally not a good idea to blame every thing apart from you code (because it almost always our code not windows or web browsers or any other platform we are running on). My advice to you is to take onboard what the people are saying, you are far to defensive about your site which is another problem if your hoping to become a programmer or even a web designer, testers would have a field day. If a problem occur in a newbie program then they always try to defend there code and say something like it worked a minute ago.

This is a programming forum so most of us are programmers (apart from the first year college kids who can be spotted a mile away) so if a programmer gives you advice on you program then it a good idea to take it on board.

ontargetrepairs

ontargetrepairs wrote:

i think there might be a problem with firefox and opera ????

jessy wrote:

you say there must be something wrong with opera or firefox, possibly but the problem is with your coding.

I think there might be a problem with fire fox and opera : as in it dosent work right with them, how did i blame opera & firefox, and your telling me its definitly a problem with my code??? like where do yea get this from ??? do yea not know how websites work or something because it could be any number of hitches..... i tested that plenty before uploading it, msn couldn touch my code while its uploaded so its a redirect outside the code or it might even be one of the administrators signing in on my webspace as me because my p/w for boards.ie is same 4 the webspace!!!!, its changed now tho think before yea type

Johnny_the_fox

ontargetrepairs wrote:

administrators signing in on my webspace as me because my p/w for boards.ie is same 4 the webspace!!!!, its changed now tho think before yea type

:rolleyes: :eek:

ROFFLE

seamus

ontargetrepairs wrote:

I think there might be a problem with fire fox and opera : as in it dosent work right with them, how did i blame opera & firefox, and your telling me its definitly a problem with my code??? like where do yea get this from ??? do yea not know how websites work or something because it could be any number of hitches..... i tested that plenty before uploading it, msn couldn touch my code while its uploaded so its a redirect outside the code or it might even be one of the administrators signing in on my webspace as me because my p/w for boards.ie is same 4 the webspace!!!!, its changed now tho think before yea type

nghgnghgng


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAa

Oh man, that's just the kind of laugh you need before you go to bed.

ontarget, I don't even know where to start telling you what's wrong with every sentence in that post.