Burn in hell america

Gizzard

You fking morons, how in hell could more people vote for the monkey bush again this time


Well America deserves to burn in the hell its created now, country full 51% of right wing rednecks

MrPudding

Gizzard wrote:

You fking morons, how in hell could more people vote for the monkey bush again this time


Well America deserves to burn in the hell its created now, country full 51% of right wing rednecks

Don't told back Gizzard. Tell us what you really think.

It is kind of depressing. I went to bed quite hopeful only to wake up to find the monkey man has done better than he did the last time. Seriously what is the story? Its seems like America want to return to moral values. You know good American moral values like, lying to your people an other nations so you can go to war to steal oil, killing innocent women and children in a foreign country, putting business ahead of people, doing dodgy deals with companies that you have ties to you know stuff like that.

I despair.

MrP

mike65

Gizzard wrote:

You fking morons...country full 51% of right wing rednecks

Hmm I see a moron closer to home.

Mike.

Villain

Well they get what they vote for, in this case it's a monkey. The majority of Americans don't care about health or employment they care about been the strongest Country with the Strongest Army and they see Bush as someone one who has the same ideals.

I just hope the soldiers in Iraq will be home in 4 years time when Bush is on his way out of the White House.

Tony Blair must be a very happy man today.

ixoy

Ah glad, someone already posted the vitrol I felt like spewing. I wish I were surprised but... meh. I'd love to sit down with those who voted Bush and see if their reasons for re-electing the incompetent (oh sorry, incumbent) without using the phrases "terrorism" or "war in Iraq".

Having said that, I hardly want the country to burn in Hell... that's just being silly...

Carpo

heh heh take that project echelon!

Stick it to 'em gizzard, and be sure to bring back some cigars from Cuba

SkepticOne

Gizzard wrote:

You fking morons, how in hell could more people vote for the monkey bush again this time


Well America deserves to burn in the hell its created now, country full 51% of right wing rednecks

Ah now thats a bit extreme. Myself I would have preferred Kerry overall, but I'm not an American. They get to decide, not us.

sharkman

ixoy wrote:

Ah glad, someone already posted the vitrol I felt like spewing. I wish I were surprised but... meh. I'd love to sit down with those who voted Bush and see if their reasons for re-electing the incompetent (oh sorry, incumbent) without using the phrases "terrorism" or "war in Iraq".

Having said that, I hardly want the country to burn in Hell... that's just being silly...

No ,But perhaps some burning just on their thieving fingertips !

If I started spewin forth my feeling I may never stop . How stupid can these people be .. If you look at the split of the votes , It looks like hicksville USA voted for Bush and the more educated states voted for Kerry ..

You would have imagined thet the poorer people in the US would have realised the Bush dont give a **** about them !

No ,But perhaps some burning just on their thieving fingertips !

p.pete

SkepticOne wrote:

Ah now thats a bit extreme. Myself I would have preferred Kerry overall, but I'm not an American. They get to decide, not us.

I'd go along with that - apart from their foreign policy I'm happy to let the Americans have him. No doubt they won't see the errors of their ways and will lament the end of his term in four years - at least some of them will. The small minded and easily manipulated, of which I'm now more sure then ever there are plenty.

bonkey

irish1 wrote:

Tony Blair must be a very happy man today.

I very much doubt it. With over 75% of Britons preferring Kerry because of their objections to Bush, Blair is probably looking at any re-election hopes he had disappearing up in smoke if/when the election is called for Bush.

jc

por

ixoy wrote:

I'd love to sit down with those who voted Bush and see if their reasons for re-electing the incompetent (oh sorry, incumbent) without using the phrases "terrorism" or "war in Iraq".

They will tell you that one reason they voted for him was because of his stance on abortion, gay marriage etc. America is a very conservative country and Bush appeals to that conservative thinking (which includes a great many Irish Catholic Americans).

Gizzard

the american election is very frustrating, I just dont understand, there really is no other reason except a large number of people in USA are complete morons, Bush has the worst economic record of any president for 80 years, 1000+ american soldiers dead in a country that had nothing to do with Bin Laden, documentaries that prove this, the illegal patriot act being repealed state after state, 9/11 victums sueing bush administration for hampering the 9/11 investigation, I mean the list goes on.

Most of the world hates america as a result, and they rednecks voting bush dont seem to understand or just dont know enough that it makes any difference.

Wait and see the american economy tank slowly (china loaning usa 1billion a day, a DAY). Madness. America is the rogue state now, god help us all.

koneko

This is scary, really scary. If I were to be really honest I could post a lot of very angry words right now but it's not going to make a blind bit of difference. It looks pretty much set Bush is going to get it, and I can only fear what plans he has for the next 4 years.

ixoy

por wrote:

They will tell you that one reason they voted for him was because of his stance on abortion, gay marriage etc. America is a very conservative country and Bush appeals to that conservative thinking (which includes a great many Irish Catholic Americans).

I thought Irish-Americans favored Kerry? I'm pretty sure I saw a poll on this, not least because of the popularity of Kennedy and, lately, Clinton's work on the peace process.

You're probably right. It's Bush's fanatical (if election-wise sound) policy of letting religious mores affect his decision making that makes me hate him so. The gay marriage constitutional ammendment (passed legislatively in all 11 states where it was on the ballot) makes me particularly furious. I am not a happy camper now this morning

Rock Climber

irish1 wrote:

Well they get what they vote for, in this case it's a monkey.

Well actually Bill Clinton is on record iirc stating that George Bush is actually quite inteligent.

The other thing to note is that quite a number of exit polls according to the networks this morning were stating family values as the reason for voting for Bush.
Bush got a lot of the Hispanic vote in Florida aswell due to his stance on Cuba.

I note aswell that 8 or 9 states voted in referenda against Gay marriage and one to limit the benefits of gay civil unions.
This is what you are increasingly dealing with in America, a rise of the religous right.
Something that they may see as a counterbalance to the rise of Islamic extremism in that other part of the world.

This appears to matter to a lot of Americans nore and more, it appears to be their priority.
They are effectively being assimilated Borg like into Dana's but with guns and a violent attitude.

Memnoch

bonkey wrote:

I very much doubt it. With over 75% of Britons preferring Kerry because of their objections to Bush, Blair is probably looking at any re-election hopes he had disappearing up in smoke if/when the election is called for Bush.

jc

i dunno.. why would britons base their vote in the UK based on who is elected in the US? I know tony doesn't want to seem be associated with bush and all but will this election itself translate into a direct vote?

It would make SENSE i suppose if it was in backlash to the point where UK voters think Blair helps Bush win again. Personally I hate blair, I think he is a snake and I hope he goes down.

I was a firm labour supporter before the iraq war but now I want them to loose, even if it means the conservatives get in power for 4 years. They have to be taught a lesson.

Tony loosing to me would be nicer than Bush loosing since I actually plan on living in England at some point :P

ionapaul

Those crazy American morons, eh? We could never, EVER, be as downright silly as they!

Lowry is a poll-topper - MORE THAN ONCE. Bertie and his shower elected into power on lies and broken promises - MORE THAN ONCE (and will be next time, too!). Convicted gun-runners and facists with their own private army of thugs and knee-breakers - IN GOVERNMENT SOON. Bev Cooper-Flynn - FUTURE POLL-TOPPER?

Those silly silly Americans.*

*not a fan of Bush, think he is the wrong choice, but harping on about how stupid the Americans are gets my goat, so to speak.

sharkman

One good thing comes from this ...

In four years time , Hilary Clinton will be Americas First Female President ..

Villain

Well I thik he'd rather have Bush in the White House when he's running again rather than Kerry

Beruthiel

today is a very sad day and the thoughts of 4 more years of this man in power makes me shudder, I'm disgusted

Chong

They've got to be as thick as crap to be honest, I fcking despise NBC and Fox what a bunch of biased knobs . Their kids get killed in Iraq and they still flippin vote for this complete idiot. Whats wrong with the country. I am so pissed off.

A Dub in Glasgo

This really is depressing news for the world

seamus

Old America is still quite conservative, just like old Ireland is. Despite good indications early on, it would seem that the younger voters didn't come out in any greater numbers this time. Idiots. Younger voters can always swing an election, buty they're impossible to convince to vote, so politicians don't bother.

The US is a society driven by fear. Fear is what motivates them to do their jobs, to pay their taxes, to buy American products and to take American holidays. They are going to vote in a President that they think can defend them against their fears. GWB with his unerring stubbornness and monotonous speeches about terrorism and the evil lurking outside the US waiting to attack and kill everyone inside.

I said he would get voted in, and he probably will. Unfortunately.

/me goes to read up on John Titor and tick a few more boxes.

sharkman

irish1 wrote:

Well I thik he'd rather have Bush in the White House when he's running again rather than Kerry

He can't run again ....Thank God ..


Thats why Mrs Clinton will be guaranteed to win ..

Memnoch

Rock Climber wrote:

Well actually Bill Clinton is on record iirc stating that George Bush is actually quite inteligent.

The other thing to note is that quite a number of exit polls according to the networks this morning were stating family values as the reason for voting for Bush.
Bush got a lot of the Hispanic vote in Florida aswell due to his stance on Cuba.

I note aswell that 8 or 9 states voted in referenda against Gay marriage and one to limit the benefits of gay civil unions.
This is what you are increasingly dealing with in America, a rise of the religous right.
Something that they may see as a counterbalance to the rise of Islamic extremism in that other part of the world.

This appears to matter to a lot of Americans nore and more, it appears to be their priority.
They are effectively being assimilated Borg like into Dana's but with guns and a violent attitude.

so true, this election has been largly and almost entirely influenced by relgious beliefs! So much for seperation of church and state (gay marriage bans).

if you look at the exit poll for Ohio....

and look at vote by religion...
%ofvoters Bush Kerry

Protestant (57%) 56% 44%

Catholic (26%) 55% 44%

Jewish (1%) * n/a *

Other (6%) 26% 72%

None (10%) 29% 69%

=================================

now look at the "christian vote" in greater detail..

ARE YOU A WHITE CONSERVATIVE PROTESTANT?
Bush Kerry

Yes (17%) 91% - 9%

No (83%) 43% - 57%

=================================

WHITE EVANGELICAL/BORN-AGAIN? BUSH
KERRY
TOTAL 2004 2000 2004
Bush Kerry
Yes (25%) 76% n/a 24%

No (75%) 43% n/a 56%

===================================

and the most convincing factor???

VOTE BY CHURCH ATTENDANCE BUSH
KERRY
TOTAL 2004 2000 2004
Bush Kerry
Weekly (38%) 65% n/a 35%

Occasionally (41%) 43% n/a 57%

Never (13%) 35% n/a 63%
===================================

i mean come on for crying out loud, the fate of the iraqi people and many others is being decieded because Bush opposes gay marraige and abortion? give me a f**king break!!!!!


edit - the details of the polls are here http://us.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/pages/results/states/OH/P/00/epolls.0.html

Memnoch

seamus wrote:

/me goes to read up on John Titor and tick a few more boxes.

he did say that 2004 would be the "beginning" in retrospect didn't he?

Kinda makes sense.. Kerry contests Ohio, US supreme court appoints Bush. Bush does some crazy stuff and takes away more american liberties.

Democrats get even more polarised go crazy.

Bush uses heavy handed tactics

could have the stirrings of real trouble.

Villain

sharkman wrote:

He can't run again ....Thank God ..


Thats why Mrs Clinton will be guaranteed to win ..

Sorry I should have quoted Bonkey in my post, I was referring to Mr Blair.

pork99

i mean come on for crying out loud, the fate of the iraqi people and many others is being decieded because Bush opposes gay marraige and abortion? give me a f**king break!!!!!

The American people have been asked whether they prefer killing foetuses or Arabs. They chose Arabs.

p.pete

Memnoch wrote:

i mean come on for crying out loud, the fate of the iraqi people and many others is being decieded because Bush opposes gay marraige and abortion? give me a f**king break!!!!![/url]

The main thing is that there is a move away from Islamic states in the rest of the world - it's a good idea but the wrong religion.

none of these views are held by me.

por

ionapaul wrote:

Those crazy American morons, eh? We could never, EVER, be as downright silly as they!

Lowry is a poll-topper - MORE THAN ONCE. Bertie and his shower elected into power on lies and broken promises - MORE THAN ONCE (and will be next time, too!). Convicted gun-runners and facists with their own private army of thugs and knee-breakers - IN GOVERNMENT SOON. Bev Cooper-Flynn - FUTURE POLL-TOPPER?

Those silly silly Americans.*

*not a fan of Bush, think he is the wrong choice, but harping on about how stupid the Americans are gets my goat, so to speak.

Well said ionapaul, I agree 100%. Now before anyone throws another stone, please step out of the glass house.

I hate those stupid yanks and this stupid intenet thing they developed........

Mighty_Mouse

They've not only won but done better!!!

http://www.breakingnews.ie/2004/11/03/story174128.html

I can see em sharpening their bits for Alaska already!!!

Praetorian

Gizzard wrote:

You fking morons, how in hell could more people vote for the monkey bush again this time


Well America deserves to burn in the hell its created now, country full 51% of right wing rednecks

I cannot believe how stupid the americans are. At least Bush probably can't do as much damage in his next 4 years as the most powerful man in the world.

Memnoch

pork99 wrote:

The American people have been asked whether they prefer killing foetuses or Arabs. They chose Arabs.

come on thats a joke, do you honestly believe that?

On the one hand they want to remove abortion because ALL LIFE IS SACRED

on the other hand its

OKAY to kill MUSLIMS

Memnoch

por wrote:

Well said ionapaul, I agree 100%. Now before anyone throws another stone, please step out of the glass house.

I hate those stupid yanks and this stupid intenet thing they developed........

i don't have a right to vote for the irish govt. So i have every right to throw stones.

thejollyrodger

fúck no one here is holding back in what they think about the U.S.A elections Its early days yet but I think it looks like 4 more years of the same. I hope bush sorts the economy out this time and doesnt invade another EYE RAQ.

Cabaal

So I quote planet of the apes
George Taylor : YOU MANIACS. YOU BLEW IT UP. DAMN YOU. GOD DAMN YOU ALL TO HELL.

Maybe Bush is the reason why the world ends up being run by apes, actually hang on, if he wins we'll have a monkey in power in the US again :mad:

thejollyrodger wrote:

fúck no one here is holding back in what they think about the U.S.A elections Its early days yet but I think it looks like 4 more years of the same. I hope bush sorts the economy out this time and doesnt invade another EYE RAQ.

Nah he'll properly just start a war with..... ah China?
In fairness before the last election I said Bush would have a war while he was in power and he did'ent fail me
He started right away with trying to piss of China over that spyplane thing
I guess he thinks wars are good for the economy

god help us all of this ****en muppet wins again,
god help the entire world!

Keyzer

Beruthiel wrote:

today is a very sad day and the thoughts of 4 more years of this man in power makes me shudder, I'm disgusted

Why?
Why don't you despair at the man in power in this country?
Why don't you despair about the fools ruining this country, making ridiculous mistakes and cockups year in year out? Our own government are a bunch of corrupt, lying halfwit gangsters.

This election has no impact to Ireland, econmically or politcally,

Kerry was a moron anyway, and just because he was the only opponent doesn't he had a right win - better the devil you know etc.

Are you American? If not, then why do you give a s**t?

billy the squid

Keysar

All these wars that bush is getting going is causing the price of oil to go up dramatically.

When the price of oil goes up , everything else goes up in price. so Ireland does feel the affects of a US election.

Look at how much progress was made with the Irish peace process when Bill Clinton became president.

The result of an american election has more of an affect on this country that you might think.

Cabaal

Keyzer wrote:

Why?
Why don't you despair at the man in power in this country?
Why don't you despair about the fools ruining this country, making ridiculous mistakes and cockups year in year out? Our own government are a bunch of corrupt, lying halfwit gangsters.

[EDIT]

Are you American? If not, then why do you give a s**t?

Right lets get started here..
Your a thick sh*t!

Here are the reasons why most of the world (except you obviously!) care if the other muppet (Bush) gets into power
- Bush has basically NO foreign policy
- Bush starts unfounded wars "Kill the Terrorists" "I want them dead or alive"
- Most of the world hates Bush (see my first point)

We may not be American but this muppet affects us all, after all whats another war?!
thankfully you don't
:mad:

Villain

Cabaal wrote:

Right lets get started here..
Your a thick sh*t!

No need for personal insults, he's entitled to his opinion, no matter how much you don't like it.

sharkman

Cabaal wrote:

Right lets get started here..
Your a thick sh*t!

Here are the reasons why most of the world (except you obviously!) care if the other muppet (Bush) gets into power
- Bush has basically NO foreign policy
- Bush starts unfounded wars "Kill the Terrorists" "I want them dead or alive"
- Most of the world hates Bush (see my first point)

We may not be American but this muppet affects us all, after all whats another war?!
thankfully you don't
:mad:

Here Here !

Agent Smith

ixoy wrote:

Having said that, I hardly want the country to burn in Hell... that's just being silly...

wait a sec.... I thought america WAS hell.....

Hobbes

Keyzer wrote:

Why?
This election has no impact to Ireland, econmically or politcally,

You are soooo wrong. Do you not think other countries invest in the US? For I see some Canadian companies are either pulling out of the US or changing how they do business because of Bushes policies make it too much trouble to do business there.

Likewise with investments. The US$ is worth a lot less now, so any investments in the US loose money over time. It will be worth it more when the $ stabilizes or comes back (more profit for non-US people) but at the moment its going down the toilet.

But what this win does is basically green light Bushs actions for the last four years as a good thing. So all bets will be off which scares the crap out of me.

Nuadha

You can have a look at the plain ignorance of the people that re-elected Bush (presuming he's in) here. The comments would put the frightners on you. Though have a look at the review by Ann Lesters on this page for the epitome of the phrase "Fools rush in". Kinda sums up Bush's regime.

Keyzer

Cabaal wrote:

Right lets get started here..
Your a thick sh*t!

Here are the reasons why most of the world (except you obviously!) care if the other muppet (Bush) gets into power
- Bush has basically NO foreign policy
- Bush starts unfounded wars "Kill the Terrorists" "I want them dead or alive"
- Most of the world hates Bush (see my first point)

We may not be American but this muppet affects us all, after all whats another war?!
thankfully you don't
:mad:

Thats a really mature response.
I am entitled to my opinion and so are you so whats the point in insulting me?

Anyway, yes Bush is stupid etc. and blah blah blah. I never said I agreed with him getting back in. What gets on my nerves is people here being devastated by this result, when it was obvious he was going to get back in, and more importantly, our own leader (if you want to call him that) is as bad as Bush in regards running a country on the scale of things, scale being the important word in this sentence.

"Most of the world hates Bush" is a really ridiculous statement, thats a reason why he shouldn't have been re-elected?
Most of the world isn't American and don't vote in the AMERICAN elections.

Billy the Squid commented saying that Bush has done nothing to help the peace process - whats to say Kerry would have done anything either? and in my opinion the peace process in the North is doomed anyway. And our own "Commmander in Chief" is doing nothing either on this matter, when are we going to start sorting our own problems out and stop relying on outsiders to sort out the Northern Conflict.

And yes, petrol prices have gone up, big deal, everything else in this country has gone up i.e food, houses, insurance, drink etc. so I think petrol should be the lower down on the worries there mate.

So, back to my original point, why don't you put your energy into doing something about our own leaders and government instead of blabbing on about Bush getting back in.

seamus

Keyzer wrote:

Why?
Why don't you despair at the man in power in this country?
Why don't you despair about the fools ruining this country, making ridiculous mistakes and cockups year in year out? Our own government are a bunch of corrupt, lying halfwit gangsters.

We do despair. Are we only allowed to watch the politics of one country?

This election has no impact to Ireland, econmically or politcally,

Then why would RTE be showing an uninterrupted CNN feed all morning? The fact is that what the US does, now moreso than ever, affects the entire world. Like or not, America are still a huge player, and their foreign policy, which is what everyone is worried about, has ramifications on our economic and political climate.

Scruff

The America that is projected to us in the popular media is all based on the north east and west coast states. These are the most liberal and all of which voted for Kerrry. How many of us know anything about the states that seperate the costal states? North and South Dakota, Wyoming, Kentucky, Idaho, anyone? And the south is the bible belt which were always going to be concervative, christian Bush supporters.
So in essesance the vast swath of Red Neck America have voted in a Red Neck President again. Look at any of the election result maps and just see all that red in the center and south east.
horray. or should i say yeeeeeeeehaaaaaah.

I think it would be appropiate if the changed the american national anthem to just the Dueling Banjo's music from Deliverence.

pork99

Memnoch wrote:

come on thats a joke, do you honestly believe that?

Yep, you got it in one - I was joking, nothing like a bit of black humour when the news is bad.

maybe I should have used [ironic][/ironic] tags



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ixoy

Keyzer wrote:

And yes, petrol prices have gone up, big deal, everything else in this country has gone up i.e food, houses, insurance, drink etc. so I think petrol should be the lower down on the worries there mate.

Actually, it IS a big deal. Oil is one of the fundamental underpinnings of our economy. Oil goes up. Petrol goes up. Hauliers - who deliver all our goods for example - charge more which, in turn, effects ALL prices. Ditto for matters of energy production. That's why it's very high on the list of woes!

Cabaal

Keyzer wrote:

[EDIT] rant about comparing Ireland to the US, wtf?.

You obviously don't get it do you?
The elections in the US have much wider implications then just a one man getting into power and running the country into the ground, they affect the world as a whole due to the size of the US actually size and economic .
Changes in the US affect US companies here and there decisions on what they do in Europe and the rest of the world and visa versa.

In the scale of things Ireland affects hardly anything,


Its not simply down to petrol prices, Bush environmental policies are a joke also hell he did'ent give a **** about the Kyoto agreement.

On the world policy of things you say let us stop relaying on outside help with regards to the north, why do you see that as a bad thing Clinton certainly helped the situation.
Can you say the same for Israel?

Should we just leave Israel and the Palestinians fight it out to the end, after all they shouldn't need to rely on "outside help" they should be able to sort things out themselfs.
Did you ever think that maybe some situations NEED a third party moderator to sort out a situation?

Anyway since you don't seem to get the whole situation at all I'll end it at this..

Keyzer

seamus wrote:

We do despair. Are we only allowed to watch the politics of one country?

When did I say you couldn't watch the elections?
Your missing the point, which was aimed at people saying america should burn in hell etc.

seamus wrote:

Then why would RTE be showing an uninterrupted CNN feed all morning? The fact is that what the US does, now moreso than ever, affects the entire world. Like or not, America are still a huge player, and their foreign policy, which is what everyone is worried about, has ramifications on our economic and political climate.

I think every country in the world is showing the election on the news not just Ireland. Yes the foreign policy is something to worry about, but HOW DO YOU KNOW KERRY WOULD HAVE CHANGED ANYTHING? HE COULD HAVE BEEN WORSE.

sorry about the caps but people are missing the point.