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What's the difference between a college and a university?

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  • #32
    MojoMaker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,689 ✭✭✭MojoMaker


    Draupnir wrote:
    yes they do, might point was simply that you piece of paper (congrats by the way) was accredited by one of the Dublin universities, either DCU, TCD or UCD, and I believe its UCD who do the DIT ones, since DIT dont have the power to accredit there own.

    ps. accredit might be the wrong word but I cant think of the right one at the minute

    FFS, DIT never had any association with UCD...jebus, all degree programmes were ratified by Trinity.

    Without denigrating anyone who graduated from UCD (myself included) but their degrees ain't worth a **** out in the professional environment, which is why you see so many students going on to masters level and then following professional training of some sort. The most irrelevent degree in the whole of Ireland's university sector has to be UCD's B.Comm - before we started this we were told in school it was the one to have - ain't worth a flying **** out there. DIT or DCU leagues ahead of UCD skills-wise, unless you want to be a doctor of course. But back in the real world, UCD is for academics, the other universities are for people that want to actually work and earn money.

    This is from an icredible amount of experience before anyone feels like neg-repping me, lol.


  • #33
    Draupnir
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,548 ✭✭✭Draupnir


    I wasnt sure it was UCD that did the DIT degrees, thats why i said I believe as opposed to being concrete about it. I just knew that someone else was pulling the strings if ya get my drift.


  • #34
    Dave
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,922 ✭✭✭Dave


    A collage is a work art consisting of a composition of materials in unified colours or lines.

    A university on the other hand isn't

    Easy.


  • #35
    aodh_rua
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,243 ✭✭✭aodh_rua


    I presume the question is really what is the difference between IT's and universities (in the Oxbridge model Colleges come together to form a university a la University of Dublin has a Trinity College). The posts about research pretty much hit the nail on the head. The primary role of the IT sector is to produce highly trained vocational graduates who are equipped to work in industry in hands-on positions (programmers, lab technicians, etc.). The universities exist to provide professional training which equips graduates with a wider variety of skills and the opportunity to engage in research, and further study. This model has changed of late with the increasing research focus in some of the larger IT's (probably as an effort to recruit high calibre staff). However, central government are wary of extending the university banner to encompass the likes of DIT as the title has a meaning which does not cover the stated aim of the IT sector. Perhaps they could instead introduce the continental notion of a technical university which provides training a la the IT's and also carries out research.

    As for the Seanad constituencies - as of now the only graduates entitled to vote are those of the NUI (3 seats) and those of the University of Dublin (3 seats). The committee mentionned in the DCU press release was merely issuing recommendations, any change will require a referendum which is unlikey to happen in advance of the next general election.


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