What is the highest pub in ireland?

Saruman

Its NOT as straight forward as all you guys rushing in to say Johnnie Fox's think!!!

I have been there twice by the way an love the food.
Anyway first time i went there i was driving American friends so on the way home we took the scenic route home and went towards Glendalough. there was still enough light. As you all know roundwood is on the way. Roundwood is Irelands highest village according to the sign. It has pubs so i wondered why they are not higher.

The second time i was in roundwood i was driving my American inlaws to Glendalough. This time i even did a u-turn there outside a pub that has a sign on it claiming to be Irelands highest pub.. the plot thickens

If we use logic. Johnnie Fox's is in a town called Glencullen and this does not claim to be the highest town in ireland. Roubdwoood does and contains at least 2 pubs that i saw. One of which claims the same as Johnie foxes.

SO any Geography nuts or better yet ordinance survey people who know the elevation etc of both places??

Oh by the way can anyone explain to me why Roundwood has NO where to buy fuel and the nearest place is Laragh which is half the size and 8km away?

Creamy Goodness

i reckon roundwood is as i've seen that sign saying highest village in ireland hence "higher" pubs. i'd say johnnie foxes is using the "highest" pub in ireland slogan as a slogan for them.

so foreigners can say they were at the highest pub in ireland

fjon

Interesting. Had never thought of it before.

However, I don't think Glencullen is a town - it's more of a region. Or if it is a town, the main town may be at a lower elevation than Johnny Fox's, and hence wouldn't be the highest in Ireland.

I can't answer your question though I'm afraid!

Draupnir

Im fairly sure a pub in Kerry tried to sue the Johnny Foxes owners not so long ago because they claimed to be the highest pub in Ireland. No links to this im afraid but I do remember it being on TV3 news.

Knowing them they may hvae invented the story though.

dudara

There is a pub on the Top of Coom, near Kilgarvan, Co Kerry that is fairly high up and has being laying claim to that title for as long as I can remember.

Johnny_the_fox

The Ponderosa on the Glenshane Road (Co .Derry) ?
It also claims to be the highest by using the "highest" pub in ireland Road Sign


997 feet It is the highest pub in the North anyway.

Saruman

lol for a second i thought you were a johnnie foxes rep

beer enigma

dudara wrote:

There is a pub on the Top of Coom, near Kilgarvan, Co Kerry that is fairly high up and has being laying claim to that title for as long as I can remember.

The Creedon Inn is pretty high alright, although the Ponderosa is the only one with its own mountain rescue team - now that's impressive.

I was told that Johnny Foxes is 'officially' the highest, only because its the only one 'officially' measured....the others may be higher.

Flukey

As far as I know it is the pub in Roundwood, Co. Wicklow.

RasTa

What about the one in the Guinness storehouse

Capt'n Midnight

I know someone who suggested doing a pub crawl of all the highest pubs in Ireland. - Isn't there one in Cork too.

What's the lowest pub in Ireland

Victor

RasTa wrote:

What about the one in the Guinness storehouse

It may be the tallest, but definitely not the highest.

^whitey^

This is the sign above Creedons pub on top of Coom. You can just about read "Irelands highest pub".

Whether it is or not is another question, I dont have Ordanace Survey Maps for Wicklow or the north but i'm sure I have one covering Coom so I can check the elevation of that.

superconor

Yeah the ponderosa claims to be the highest pub in ireland. My grannies is quite close to it, yes it is in derry.

With all these pubs claiming to be the highest, did any of them actually find out?

Tiriel

Hmmmm.. :rolleyes:

Saruman

I just put the question to Johnnie Foxs themselves.. i sent an email so im curious to find out.. I also sent it to the Ray team at todayFM but have not heard a response or a thing on the radio yet.

Saruman

I got a response from Fred at Johnnie Fox's. Pasting it below.

Dear Saruman;

Firstly, thank you for contacting us at Fox's Pub, it is nice to be given the opportunity to explain the long standing and often repeated question, "Which is the Highest Pub in Ireland"?

Ok without going into feet and inches just now, let me bring up the four areas that "claim" the title.
Ourselves of course, in Glencullen, there is another pub as you say in your message board in Glendalough area, in Roundwood, another on the Cork, Kerry border known as the Top of Croom and lastly another in Derry.

If I may work in reverse order to clarify our "claim":

4] Some time ago when I first launched Fox's TV advert in Ireland, Northern Ireland, England and mainland Europe, the advertising standards authority of Ireland contacted me with a complaint, now bear in mind this official watchdog has the power of authority to make a company remove its very expensive advert and lose any money spent on it, well anyway, they contacted stating they had complaints from Northern Ireland, specifically from a certain pub in "Londonderry", who stated that we were using false advertising, my response in brief, and I mean brief was simple.
"Johnnie Fox's claims to be the highest pub in Ireland, the term is used in accepted general terminology to pertain to the State of Ireland as opposed to the island of Ireland", I continued with by saying that "Derry was part of the 6 counties and therefore it is accepted in common day use and legally in advertising that our claim is substantiated and correct".
The response from ASAI was a written confirmation to our claim and permission to continue advertising, they had researched the claims from multiple parties and found in our favour.

3] The pub in Kerry is known to us and we to them on a more personal level, they are not open all year round nor in fact all day every day as one would expect from a public establishment, they do not have the interest in pursuing the "claim" with any energy and only a few occasions in the past have interacted on live radio debates with the other 3 establishments in a friendly banter to the height claim.

2] The longest running and loudest argument continues to this day with the pub in Roundwood, their claim is as the highest pub in the highest "VILLAGE" in Ireland, you see this is where it gets tricky with land titles, Johnnie Fox's lays in "Glencullen" whish is a township and not a village as we have no post office, to be classified as a village we must have a library and post office, therefore we are a township and do in fact come under the postal district of Dublin 18 according to a telephone conversation I had with An Post.
The claim Roundwood has is absolutely official in being the "Highest Village in Ireland", but the height of the pub is less than ours by some feet.

1] Johnnie Fox's - the loudest claim of all, we claim it, we argue it, we prove it time and time again, we even had to point out an old guide stone hidden behind foliage on the way up to the pub showing the height at that juncture to one Irish newspaper reporter doing an "expose" on the four venues.

Saruman, my opinion is that so long as no venue is slandering or hurting another venue then all is fair, especially when the people making the claims can communicate with each other and have a banter and we do all agree that it is mutually beneficial for all our businesses to continue making the claim, and as the marketing person for the "Highest Pub in Ireland" I would like to say that I welcome other venues that raise the claim as all advertising is good advertising we are told, and in this case it is. So long as we at Fox's continue to advertise abroad (as only we have the strength to do it from the four venues) and we continue to draw 300,000 visitors plus per year to our establishment alone as well as bringing tourism in for other local businesses then I think and believe that we will continue to "claim" the height factor with the support of Dublin Tourism, Bord Failte, Aer Lingus (who claimed in one newspaper to wave to us when they fly overhead!) and many happy customers.

Thank you again Saruman for the opportunity to respond, I hope it furthers discussions on board.ie


Kindest regards



Fred Rainert
Business & Marketing Manager
Johnnie Fox's Pub
Glencullen
Dublin Mountains
Ireland
T: +3531 2955647
F: +3531 2958911
E: fred@jfp.ie
W: www.jfp.ie

smoke.me.a.kipper

good detective work there Saruman!

Sleepy

So basically, the answer is that the highest Bar in Ireland is the one in Kerry? But Johnny Foxes claim it because they have better opening hours?

djlinehan

Meelin Village in North Cork stands at 251 metres (about 820 feet) above sea level, which is quite a bit higher than Roundwood.

Roundwood, in the Wicklow mountains. It is about 238 metres above sea level, or about 780 feet.....


Meelin has 2 pubs, tho not as popular as jf but have a licience which is the definition of a pub.....

but nice people at jf say what you will it really dosent really matter....

sorry all........

petes

Sweet Zombie Jesus.

smellslikeshoes

djlinehan wrote: »

Meelin Village in North Cork stands at 251 metres (about 820 feet) above sea level, which is quite a bit higher than Roundwood.

Roundwood, in the Wicklow mountains. It is about 238 metres above sea level, or about 780 feet.....


Meelin has 2 pubs, tho not as popular as jf but have a licience which is the definition of a pub.....

but nice people at jf say what you will it really dosent really matter....

sorry all........

I don't think a 6 year old thread really needed to be dragged up for that:rolleyes:

minidazzler

Lads, there is only one way to sort this once and for all.

Get an altimeter, and have a beers at each of the pubs. That will sort it for certain.

Dravokivich

djlinehan wrote: »

sorry all........

for the necro bump?

General Zod

Actually, Jack Nealon's on Capel St. held the title for a wee while over the weekend.

gianparz

djlinehan wrote: »

Meelin Village in North Cork stands at 251 metres (about 820 feet) above sea level, which is quite a bit higher than Roundwood.

Roundwood, in the Wicklow mountains. It is about 238 metres above sea level, or about 780 feet.....


Meelin has 2 pubs, tho not as popular as jf but have a licience which is the definition of a pub.....

but nice people at jf say what you will it really dosent really matter....

sorry all........

Well, according to Bing 3d map Roundwood is 750 feet above sea level, Meelin is at 830 feet, while Johnny Fox Pub is at 920 feet above sea level.

Looks like Johnny Fox is really the highest pub in Ireland after all.

Smartypantsdig

there's even some boozer in Cavan, Bailieborough I think, claiming the title

jimmycrackcorm

Sleepy wrote: »

So basically, the answer is that the highest Bar in Ireland is the one in Kerry? But Johnny Foxes claim it because they have better opening hours?

Add to that Foxes insult to all Northern Irish nationalists that Derry doesn't count.

lucylu

Top of Coom Pub in Kerry is 1045ft above sea level

gianparz

Sleepy wrote: »

So basically, the answer is that the highest Bar in Ireland is the one in Kerry? But Johnny Foxes claim it because they have better opening hours?

Exactly

Gerry Asstrix

Johnny Foxes is nowhere near the highest pub in Ireland, thats just tourist talk, there are pubs Ive been too far higher

gianparz

Gerry Asstrix wrote: »

Johnny Foxes is nowhere near the highest pub in Ireland, thats just tourist talk, there are pubs Ive been too far higher

which one for example?

Dubh Geannain

So Coom pub is the best place to go to get high

biko

Necro lock.