Anyone got the 1meg Lite connection with Irish Broadband????

gline

Ihave just ordered the 1 meg lite connection from irishbroadband €48 a month.

I was just wondering does anyone here have it? is it any gud? the contention ratio is 20:1, whch has me a bit worried it might get very slow after 6. Im near rathmines area, and i had problems with the ripwave service, crap reception, will this be the same????Anyone have it in this area???

Narcom

Hi Gline,

I was on the old Breeze@home 512 package in Inchicore coming off the Guinness tower and had terrible problems for several months with a practically unusable service.

After a lot of hassle, IBB eventually told me to go lump it or upgrade to the 1Meg Lite option on the Business (VL) equipment.

I eventually opted to migrate over and apart from some initial problems it has worked like a dream.

Pings to irish/uk sites tend to be in the 10-30ms range as compared to 100-300ms with Breeze.

Downloads are in the 110-125 range fairly consistently.

So, despite a lot of reservations and worries, their 1meg option actually seems to deliver what it says on the tin. I've just put a few pings/tracerts below which I've just done now (8pm which should be fairly typical)

C:\>ping www.boards.ie

Pinging www.boards.ie [82.195.131.128] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 82.195.131.128: bytes=32 time=10ms TTL=57
Reply from 82.195.131.128: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=57
Reply from 82.195.131.128: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=57
Reply from 82.195.131.128: bytes=32 time=10ms TTL=57

Ping statistics for 82.195.131.128:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 10ms, Average = 5ms



C:\>ping jolt.co.uk

Pinging jolt.co.uk [195.149.21.11] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 195.149.21.11: bytes=32 time=30ms TTL=56
Reply from 195.149.21.11: bytes=32 time=20ms TTL=56
Reply from 195.149.21.11: bytes=32 time=20ms TTL=56
Reply from 195.149.21.11: bytes=32 time=20ms TTL=56

Ping statistics for 195.149.21.11:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 20ms, Maximum = 30ms, Average = 22ms


C:\>tracert www.boards.ie

Tracing route to www.boards.ie [82.195.131.128]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 10 ms <10 ms <10 ms 192.168.2.1
2 <10 ms 10 ms <10 ms guinness-vl-vlan-1.irishbroadband.ie [62.231.34.209]
3 <10 ms 10 ms <10 ms esb-et-1-7.irishbroadband.ie [62.231.32.162]
4 <10 ms 10 ms 10 ms rte-et-1-8.irishbroadband.ie [62.231.32.165]
5 10 ms <10 ms 10 ms ix-et-1-1.irishbroadband.ie [195.26.12.61]
6 <10 ms 10 ms 10 ms panama-inex.hosting365.ie [193.1.208.234]
7 <10 ms 20 ms 10 ms sneezy.hosting365.ie [82.195.133.195]
8 <10 ms 10 ms 10 ms boards.ie [82.195.131.128]

Trace complete.

Mutant_Fruit

Pretty much the same story as the above, but i got switched to the VL equipment several months ago (i must have been one of the first). I've never regretted going to the 1meg option.

RicardoSmith

Thats better than my NTL 1.5mb connection....?


C:\>tracert www.boards.ie

Tracing route to www.boards.ie [82.195.131.128]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 52 ms 36 ms 21 ms 10.135.103.254
2 11 ms 40 ms 31 ms host82-9-146-25.not-set-yet.ntli.net
3 9 ms 137 ms 41 ms dub-core-a-pos1100.inet.ntl.com
4 20 ms 25 ms 23 ms man-bb-a-atm010-228.inet.ntl.com
5 42 ms 30 ms 22 ms lee-bb-b-so-700-0.inet.ntl.com
6 19 ms 24 ms 53 ms lee-bb-a-ae0-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.187.185]
7 29 ms 87 ms 44 ms pop-bb-b-so-100-0.inet.ntl.com
8 54 ms 29 ms 58 ms tele-ic-1-so-000-0.inet.ntl.com
9 82 ms 90 ms 30 ms cr02.ldn01.pccwbtn.net [195.66.224.167]
10 161 ms 129 ms 109 ms 84.203.130.13
11 53 ms 45 ms 47 ms suez.hosting365.ie [212.17.63.4]
12 125 ms 49 ms 112 ms sneezy.hosting365.ie [82.195.128.8]
13 98 ms 50 ms 53 ms boards.ie [82.195.131.128]

Trace complete.

C:\>

kin9pin

Narcom wrote:

I've just put a few pings/tracerts below which I've just done now (8pm which should be fairly typical)

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Are the pings steady like that? I was under the impression that IBB pings weren't too steady, but if they're like that I'd consider going with them. (UTV contracts expires in a few months)

Ripwave

kin9pin wrote:

Are the pings steady like that? I was under the impression that IBB pings weren't too steady, but if they're like that I'd consider going with them. (UTV contracts expires in a few months)

There is no such thing as an "IBB ping". IBB offer a number of different services, using different technologies that have radically different performance characteristics.

gsand

I keep asking them to change me over from 512k 8:1 but they consistently say yeah no problem, will be done by 2moro and its been 3 weeks now lol

But im a little worried by other reports based on possibly contention issues...

Ah well I'll find out myself eventually i guess

gline

Everyone i know that has IBB has had problems with them, and i mean EVERYONE. From unusale connections to stopping peer to peer from downloading at full speed, also not charging people for a whole year. The only reason im goin with them is , i dont have any choice, i dont have a phoneline and very little money, so they are the cheapest wireles solution, i'll try them out, if i start having trouble i will just have to get no internet access

Narcom

kin9pin wrote:

Are the pings steady like that? I was under the impression that IBB pings weren't too steady, but if they're like that I'd consider going with them. (UTV contracts expires in a few months)

On the VL equipment the pings tend to be fairly reliable, the ones quoted above were very good, even for VL but 20-30ms is typical, but on the old Breeze equipment it was a joke. That being said, their customer support used to be brutal, but has improved, maybe 'cos I'm paying more


I havent any experience of Ripwave, but a lot of the problems discussed here in the threads relate to Ripwave or the old Breeze equipment. I don't think you will find any negative VL users. (at least not yet)

MicraBoy

Had it installed yesterday. Very happy so far. Guys arrived on time and did the business. Pings very similar to Narcom's as listed above. Actually a couple of milliseconds faster most of the time!!

When the guy showed me a download it was at 123 KB/sec, at about 11am. After six I downloaded a patch at about 63KB/sec.

bwb

what are the pings like the a US server?

Drapper

Its a great serive and pings are far better than DSL or ADSL with Eircom or Digiweb ect.

Well worth the money :- download speeds up to 154kps

What more could you want !!!

:rolleyes:

gline

And this is the 1meg LITE connection??

Drapper

ping www.boards.ie

Pinging www.boards.ie [82.195.131.130] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 82.195.131.130: bytes=32 time=17ms TTL=58
Reply from 82.195.131.130: bytes=32 time=8ms TTL=58
Reply from 82.195.131.130: bytes=32 time=8ms TTL=58
Reply from 82.195.131.130: bytes=32 time=11ms TTL=58

Ping statistics for 82.195.131.130:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 8ms, Maximum = 17ms, Average = 11ms

:rolleyes:

gline

cool, I cant wait to get it. I wana ue it for a Unreal games server now and again hopefully, wats the upload like??? Does the connnection ever drop for any reason???

Drapper

Well I'm off work sick and I've been playing COD online all morning !!!

The upload and download are the same !!! 1meg up and 1 meg down SYMETRICAL !! DSL is A symetrical different speeds.

How long ago did you apply?? as I had a long wait !!!!

Are you a gamer ??

gline

Ive been waiting 1 week, its an upgrade from d ripwave, i am a bit of a gamer. I want to set up a UT2k04 server for the laugh, just wit a few mates. And prob an ftp site

Drapper

Well I'll join you's but it took a few weeeks for Irsahbroadbad to install.

I assume you own your Gaf or you have permision to put the ariel up??

Servers ?? I think the connection should be ok !!!

It think wireless will go to 2 meg soon as NTL are on thier heals !!!

Where in Dublin are you? As you need a line of sigh to the mast !! so dont be dissapointed if you do not pass the test !!

gline

Im near rathmines and ranelagh, i have passed a LOS test already. Im gonna ring them today trying to get a date off them. I didnt get premission off my landlord, hope he doesnt mind if he does i'll just have to take it down, or pay him off , hahaah

neokenzo

Can I get IBB without a phone line? Does weather interferes with the line at all?

Drapper

Yes and despite rumers !! no weather does not intefer !!! just like mobile phones the radios work harder in the rain !!! So FASTER !!!!

Ad you dont need phone line !!!!!

But find out where the mast is !!!!!

gline

U dont need a phoneline, i have heard weather can affect the service, but it would have to be extreme conditions and i dont think it would adversly affect it. Anyone any experience with this????

Drapper

I was told NTL was the best but only Rishbroadband are offering unlimited upload and download !!!! The usual limit is 1gb a day !! and they start to charge on DSL if you exceed the quota !!!

A good movie will be about 850mga so that is so little !!!!

Stick to IBB

neokenzo

IBB site seems to be down. No cap on IBB?

gline

nah theres no cap on IBB, so u know what that means (24 hour downloading), heheheh. Paying per meg after 1 gig limit is ridiculuous , u could clock up a hugh bill, especially getting music and films and games.

Drapper

They are updating thier site at the moment as the information is out of date !!!

Thier Tech Support is run by a load of thicks !!! but make sure before the guy leaves it tis WORKING !!! as it take a few days for them to call back out !!!

Although it is 1meg connection most people are clocking 1.5 meg at quiet times "the we small hours !!!! Less traffic !!!

gline

Drapper wrote:

They are updating thier site at the moment as the information is out of date !!!

Thier Tech Support is run by a load of thicks !!! but make sure before the guy leaves it tis WORKING !!! as it take a few days for them to call back out !!!

Although it is 1meg connection most people are clocking 1.5 meg at quiet times "the we small hours !!!! Less traffic !!!

Cool mine will be on 24 hours a day hehehe. The sales team is run by a bunck of thicks aswell, badly run company, no interaction between departments. I rang to find out an installation date, still no sign of of a date, money hasnt been taken. I just hope it works ok when i get it

neokenzo

Just called them up and they'll be sending me an application form soon. I presume there's a 12 month contract with them?

Drapper

neokenzo wrote:

Just called them up and they'll be sending me an application form soon. I presume there's a 12 month contract with them?

You should have downloaded this fro thier website and sent it to them !!!

it is a 12 month contract 7 day cooling off and you can cut it off with 30 days notice :-:

GOOD deal

Doodee

gline wrote:

Cool mine will be on 24 hours a day hehehe. The sales team is run by a bunck of thicks aswell, badly run company, no interaction between departments. I rang to find out an installation date, still no sign of of a date, money hasnt been taken. I just hope it works ok when i get it

We have had it here for about 4 months now. Only once had a problem. Downloads with Bittorrent or any other Peer 2 peer generally run at full speeds. and as for gaming, whilst downloading and uploading @ 60K/s my friend was still getting a ping of 30-50ms on UK servers on my PC.

As reguards their no capp. There is none, we have been downloading constantly here, with my flatmate getting about 7gigs in the space of 40hours. I have hosted peers to in BT and uploaded over 10gigs.

Also, where bouts in rathmines/ranelagh are you, and do you know which station you shall be connecting to? If its baggot St and you start causing us lag i shall KEIL YOU!

gline

Heheehe, i dont know which i will be on, if there is one in baggot street or donnybrook, i will be on one of those. u mite expect a bit of slowdown if i am on the baggot street one, heheheheheh

Drapper

So Irishbroadband it is for you............

neokenzo

Me in Rathmines. Prepare to get lag j/k mate

[Edit]I take it the only way to register with them is by paying with DD?[/Edit]

neokenzo

Ordered BB from them and it will take 3-4 weeks to get it install. Was hoping to get it sooner LOL

gline

neokenzo wrote:

Ordered BB from them and it will take 3-4 weeks to get it install. Was hoping to get it sooner LOL

Wow when did u order? thats very quick

cranoo

Has anyone in Bray got IBB and is it anygood

Cranoo

pclive

Does anyone know how big the aerial for the Breeze 1MB Lite system is and is it easy to take down if you were moving flat etc

is this option cheaper than getting a phone line in?

gline

pclive wrote:

Does anyone know how big the aerial for the Breeze 1MB Lite system is and is it easy to take down if you were moving flat etc

is this option cheaper than getting a phone line in?

Yeh i would work out cheaper then getting a phoneline and broadband on it, Im nt sure how big the aerial, im hoping its easy to take down aswell, as i will need to take it down when i move flats aswell

neokenzo

gline wrote:

Wow when did u order? thats very quick

I ordered it 2 days ago I dont have BB at the moment and I missed it lol

Does it really take 3-4 weeks to get it installed?

neokenzo

pclive wrote:

Does anyone know how big the aerial for the Breeze 1MB Lite system is and is it easy to take down if you were moving flat etc

is this option cheaper than getting a phone line in?

I've worked at a place that had IBB installed before. The aerial isnt that big. A lot smaller than a tv dish. Nevertheless, I think only IBB can take it down and re-install it for you but dont quote me on that. Thats the logical thing imo.

MicraBoy

Does anyone know how big the aerial for the Breeze 1MB Lite system is and is it easy to take down if you were moving flat etc

is this option cheaper than getting a phone line in?

I'd say its no more than a meter high (in my case any way, i think it can be up to 2m). Has a white diamond shaped flat panel at the top about A4 size, with a little green light. Its resonably discrete sticking up off the chimney! For example from some angles you cant see it at all.

The installation is €150 and then €48.40 a month. Not sure of the cost of phone installation, but I doubt its dearer than this.

gline

neokenzo wrote:

I ordered it 2 days ago I dont have BB at the moment and I missed it lol

Does it really take 3-4 weeks to get it installed?

I honestly think it will take way longer than 3-4 weeks. They said that to me and its been 2 weeks and i rang them and they said probably about 4-6 weeks. i cant wait

neokenzo

I rang them up about 2 hours ago and the sales person says its going to take 3-4 weeks. Damn I hate the waiting game LOL

MicraBoy

I honestly think it will take way longer than 3-4 weeks. They said that to me and its been 2 weeks and i rang them and they said probably about 4-6 weeks. i cant wait

It took me three weeks to the day to get it. When I rang after two weeks the guy said I should expect to here from the installation manager the next week. Sure enough I got a phone call one week later at about 4pm to ask did I want it installed at 9am the next day! Lucky I was free!

gline

Excellent, that means there is hope for me, hehehe

neokenzo

How about security wise? Would anyone with wireless access be able to hog off from the line?

gline

neokenzo wrote:

How about security wise? Would anyone with wireless access be able to hog off from the line?

I know of someone who did it before, it is possible to see connecttions that are near you, so he said

neokenzo

Thats not good news is it. Surely there must be some kind of security measures.

Blaster99

The internet is open, so whether your link to the mast is open or not doesn't really matter in the greater scheme of things. The real problem, for them, is to ensure that only paying customers connect to their mast.

neokenzo

So if someone connects to it the connection, its connecting to their mast and not connecting to my connection?

Mutant_Fruit

gline wrote:

I know of someone who did it before, it is possible to see connecttions that are near you, so he said

Fine, you can probably see the signal, but you won't be able to use it. I believe the "magic box" they supply you with locks onto the mac address of the ethernet card you connect it to, and then only traffic to/from that card can actually be sent to and from IBB.

Also, i believe IBB told me before that the connections get encrypted, but i don't know of any way to verify that...

Its possible your friend was thinking of peoples wireless routers. Sometimes people forget to enable security options on their router, and end up broadcasting a signal to everyone within range, allowing them to connect to the router, and thus access the internet.