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Best Martial Artist in the movies!
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10-09-2004 3:09pm#1
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Of all time, Bruce Lee. Alive at the moment, maybe Jet Li.
However, if any of you have seen Ong Bak, you'll probably agree that the guy that plays Ting in it is unbelievable, Mauy Thai action at its dirtiest
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Steven Seagal is a muppet.0 -
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"Saving Private Ryan" had some excellent martial arts in it as did "Braveheart". (Thats got nothing to do with them both being filmed in Ireland, by he way
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Also, i was an extra on the "King Arthur" set for three months in Kildare/Wicklow and got to see some pretty cool stuff done by choreographers that worked with the likes of Jackie Chan amongst others. It was interesting when they drilled us for fighting scenes how they emphasised the need for "BIG" movements so the camera could pick it up and it would look good.
I found my martial arts training in a whole new light when in the middle of a 20 minute battle scene, surrounded by 20 guys of various sizes slashing at each other with all sorts of weapons - some not exactly props material. All the choreography you did with your partner(s) broke down after one minute when the adreniline started flowing. Instincts that I found to my delight, were augmented somewhat by mat-time. I experienced tunnel vision and "lost time" as primal instincts took over. Obviously we were not trying to actually kill each other and our movements were exagerated but you still had to enter the world of good distance and timing in order to stay safe in that environment so you stayed switched on and embraced the chaos of battle.
You slipped, you lost your weapon, you picked up a helmet and threw it at the nearest aggresive shape coming for you.... you forgot about that hurt elbow, you ran away from guys bearing down on you and you picked off the weaker/smaller foes. You ganged up on the strong fighters and you used every sneaky trick in the book to survive.
There was all sorts of dudeds there form MA background like Mua Thai, Goju Ryu Karate, Capolrela and some Kung Fu and i had interesing chats with them about how their own training came into play. There were doxens of re-enactors ranging from Scottish highlanders who used what they called "streamlined" ninjutsu to investigate fighting with highland weapons to chaps who took part in huge demos of the battle of Waterloo. There was an Italian gentleman who studied 17th century Italian fencing and there were Mixed MA folks who were involved in stunt work. I had to fight a chap who spent 7 years in Sweden and go into some of the Viking arts over there and another guy, from Poland, who worked on epic Polish films depicting their massive middle-age cavalry charges. I didn't meet any other Bujinkan people there but made some great friends and got a hint at what sort of environment martial arts were born out of - big battles and fights to the death. Facinating stuff and the nearest i'll probably ever get to real fighting (fingers crossed)0 -
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Is that being taught anywhere in Dublin? Looked quite practical...Musashi wrote:Incidentally the stuff in the "Bourne" series is Filipino Martail Arts such as Escrima and Pentjak Silat, also seen in the "Hunted" with Tommy Lee Jones and Benicio Del Torro
Jet Li would get my vote.
That or Christian Bale's gun kata in Equilibrium 0 -
you've got Fillipino Martial Arts goin on down in the church hall in Molesworth Place. thursday from 6:00ish and sahhardays 12sh onwards. Beginners are initially frowned at from a distance but once we're used to yer scent we is nice folk
Theres also a fillipino chap called Ding out in Bray ( i think) and donnybrook. trained there a few times, very nice guy.
The stuff in that film The Hunted is Sayoc kali, the instructor we train under(Krishna Godhania) is their european rep. he speaks highly of what they do. check out sayoc.com, some interesting clips there.
Silat wise, you've got a chap called liam mcdonald teaching teaching silat in dublin. Never met him or seen what he does so thats all i know about it.
One point though: i wouldnt go judging how effective something is from a movie 0 -
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Just voted for Jackie Chan, if only for Snake in the Eagles Shadow alone. People always seem to forget the fact that he's a simply insane martial artist and only remember him for breakin his leg in Rumble in the Bronx! Jet lee would be my second nod. Chinese champ for like 6 years or somethin. and there's like 16million kids studyin martial arts in china! And what about sammo hung, or Donnie yen. there's some unreal stuff out there from 30 or more years ago! way before any of this fast edit crap came in to effect. As for the matrix; lets just say CGs only gotten worse since Jurassic Park! Segal and Van Damme are both fools and their recent stuff is just awful, but i still love them! Marc Dacascos is a king! In the end there's only one way to solve it, start a worldwide petition calling for all living martial arts actors to jon together and make an earth-dwellers only mortal combat film! Bruce was great but a bit too philosophical to survive in todays blood thirsty environment...
Last weeks had to see again films:
Snake in the Eagles Shadow
Tai Chi Boxer
The Princess Blade
and for the toasted ham and cheese fans:
Double Impact 0 -
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Unpossible wrote:I thought Donnie's fight scenes with jet li in "once upon a time in china 2", were good. I was dissappointed with him in Blade 2. I was expecting a big fight scene with him and those swords he had, unfortunatly we didnt see much of him and his character was killed pretty quickly.
yeah that was disappointing i was relly looking forward to that..bit like samuel l jackson in deep blue sea, that was funny 0 -
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Yes Yes yes!!pma-ire wrote:It has to be Bruce
Cause if it was not for him the rest would not be doing it !! :cool:
Good point, I gotta agree with ya there bud.
Bruce is the legend!0 -
i was just looking through the thread...
Donnie Yen is around for donkeys years, and I think I remember him in a few Jackie flicks. I would guess that the ego of Snipes put an end to any cool Sh*t Donnie could have done in that movie :rolleyes: Pity cause it would have made Blade look better to beat a guy like him :cool: Donnie seems to be happy just doing the behind the scenes bit at the moment.
Samo is :cool: He was the bloke Bruce kicked the crap out of at the start of Enter the dragon (Jackie is in that movie as well). But not only that, he gives us fat boy MA'ers someone to look up to.
Yeun Biao, is the younger of the 3 amigos (Samo, Jackie and Yeun). I hav'int heard about him much lately. But I think I've seen his name as stunt credit in a few movies just don't ask me the names :rolleyes: The last movie I saw him in was a Cynthia Rothrock one about ten years ago. His washing scene in Young Master was robbed by Chris "Whats his Name" in Batman Forever.
Don't forget Gordan Leu, last seen in the Kill Bill flicks. He played the Master and the head bad guy of Lucy Liu's gang. He has a big list of Shaolin moives the chamber series mainly.
I remember a guy called Kwang Jang Lee. He was the only Korean MA Movie Star I can think of. What a pair of legs :shock: The last time I saw this man in action was in a Jackie Flick called City Hunter (a pisstake but a classic). The first time I saw him was as the bad guy at the end of Young Master
Don't quote me on that . He was also in some Gordan Leu movies and one or two of Jet Ji's. *(I thought Sho Kosugi was in a flick called Ninja in the Dragons Den. But it was me old friend Kwang, try to get this it's the biz )
The guy in the Transporter is the guy from Lock Stock' and Snatch ???
Sho Kosugi, I used to think he was a pisstaker. But after watching a ninja moive he done called...(Can't remember) I thought he was'int that bad in it compared to his other sh*te
Don't forget the Bruce Willis of Hong Kong, Chow Yun Fat.
But as I said before Bruce is the King 0 -
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Forget freaks and amateur brats like tony jaa and ,please see NEW POLICE STORY...
With this film Jackie demonstrates two main things; the first one,he is able to make even better stuff than before, and the second and most important,here he demonstrates that at the age of 50 he can move and perform his gung fu even better and faster than in some of his 80s films like Police Story II or Miracles,LET ALONE IF WE TALK ABOUT THE STUNTS,they´re simply awesome, in many senses this film is very similar to Police Story,part one action,rythm,stunts, and even better acting,simply GREAT!!
Action you see in this movie is not only unbelievable for any aged 50 years old but men of all ages.Again Jackie demonstrates that he can always surprise us,and even when he is 60 he will be doing thigs he did before,because he is different to any man of the world, he has had a very different formation.
Finally this film is also the answer to USA previous Jackie´s movies, that have treated him like a clown without any respect to him.Now he returns to his roots and again demonstrates that he is still the number one action star of the planet! 0 -
DrunkenMaster wrote:Forget freaks and amateur brats like tony jaa and ,please see NEW POLICE STORY...
With this film Jackie demonstrates two main things; the first one,he is able to make even better stuff than before, and the second and most important,here he demonstrates that at the age of 50 he can move and perform his gung fu even better and faster than in some of his 80s films like Police Story II or Miracles,LET ALONE IF WE TALK ABOUT THE STUNTS,they´re simply awesome, in many senses this film is very similar to Police Story,part one action,rythm,stunts, and even better acting,simply GREAT!!
Action you see in this movie is not only unbelievable for any aged 50 years old but men of all ages.Again Jackie demonstrates that he can always surprise us,and even when he is 60 he will be doing thigs he did before,because he is different to any man of the world, he has had a very different formation.
Finally this film is also the answer to USA previous Jackie´s movies, that have treated him like a clown without any respect to him.Now he returns to his roots and again demonstrates that he is still the number one action star of the planet!
Is that just out ??
When was this made ??0 -
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Ph3n0m wrote:Was made in 2004 http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0386005/
and is available to buy here http://www2.cdwow.ie/detail_results_2.php?product_code=15100
Cheers !! 0 -
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