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  • 07-09-2004 8:59am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,578 ✭✭✭


    You are now attending (to give it its full title)

    The College of the Holy and Undivided Trinity of Queen Elizabeth, near Dublin, for the Conversion of Papists.

    Don't worry, even if you're an unconverted Papist (like the previous Provost!) you are attending the only University in the country. Don't forget to look down on the rest of the student population as the ill-educated rabble that they are.

    Oh and for all you Comp Sci / CSLL newbies, don't forget to enjoy DLD and remember, your course has one of the highest dropout rates of any in College.

    Is the SciFi society still in house 6 or did they get run out of it like Gamers? Ah, memories....


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,958 ✭✭✭✭RuggieBear


    Here are some statistics (the important one is highlighted)

    In total, there were 15,165 registered students in 2001/02
    11,346 undergraduates (10,163 full-time / 1,183 part-time)
    3,819 postgraduates (1,970 full-time / 1,849 part-time)
    90% of our undergraduates are full-time
    25% of students are postgraduates
    Of the 15,165 students registered in 2001/02:
    87% were Irish
    7% were European (EU)
    3% were North or Central American
    3% were from other parts of the world
    The student population is 39% male and 61% female
    Every year some 250 students leave College to study abroad.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,242 ✭✭✭aodh_rua


    You are now attending (to give it its full title)

    The College of the Holy and Undivided Trinity of Queen Elizabeth, near Dublin, for the Conversion of Papists.

    Don't worry, even if you're an unconverted Papist (like the previous Provost!) you are attending the only University in the country. Don't forget to look down on the rest of the student population as the ill-educated rabble that they are.

    Oh and for all you Comp Sci / CSLL newbies, don't forget to enjoy DLD and remember, your course has one of the highest dropout rates of any in College.

    Is the SciFi society still in house 6 or did they get run out of it like Gamers? Ah, memories....

    Where did you get the conversion of Papists from?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,958 ✭✭✭✭RuggieBear


    And here's a scary one

    51% of CAO entrants to TCD had 500 points and above in 2002


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 344 ✭✭gom


    The statistics have a slight problem.
    In place of the 87% Irish put in CAO applicants.
    Many UK students apply to Trinity via the CAO. This does not make them Irish


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,958 ✭✭✭✭RuggieBear


    gom wrote:
    The statistics have a slight problem.
    In place of the 87% Irish put in CAO applicants.
    Many UK students apply to Trinity via the CAO. This does not make them Irish

    You could well be right (I've just taken these off a web page and i can't collobabrate them in any shape or form) but i'm not sure those stats are based on CAO information. Could be based on college regestration which does ask nationality (Mainly to gouge more money from non eu citizens).

    p


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 344 ✭✭gom


    Pekelly

    Which URL did you leech them off? I've been wondering where to find ANY stats on students on our college


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,958 ✭✭✭✭RuggieBear


    gom wrote:
    Pekelly

    Which URL did you leech them off? I've been wondering where to find ANY stats on students on our college

    http://www.tcd.ie/Communications/Facts/

    Enjoy :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,095 ✭✭✭Chick


    pekelly wrote:
    And here's a scary one51% of CAO entrants to TCD had 500 points and above in 2002

    500+ points?! Oh no, I'm feeling out of place already! :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 344 ✭✭gom


    500+ points?! Oh no, I'm feeling out of place already! :eek:

    Ah
    A CS student the except to the rule ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,958 ✭✭✭✭RuggieBear


    500+ points?! Oh no, I'm feeling out of place already! :eek:

    Trust me, i didn't get anywhere near 500 points. You'll be fine if you work hard.

    There are 2 ways of doing well in college....

    regurgitate back your lecture material with some extra reading to flesh it out a little bit (high II.2 or low II.1). This seems to be becoming more usual as schools no longer seem to teach any more but are leaving cert preparation factories.

    or

    actually try to get a full understanding of the concepts of your subject and be able to extrapolate your own viewpoint on it. The lecturer may disagree but as long as you can prove the reasoning (or references) behind your argument, they will nearly always be impressed. (II.1 or First)


    Oh and try not to ask "will this be on the exam?".....a lot of lecturers detest the fact that alot of the more recent students are trying to turn universities into extensions of the secondary school grind....where there is no learning anymore

    p


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 344 ✭✭gom


    pekelly wrote:

    Oh and try not to ask "will this be on the exam?".....a lot of lecturers detest the fact that alot of the more recent students are trying to turn universities into extensions of the secondary school grind....where there is no learning anymore

    p


    If I could clense one body of students. In know which would be first on my list :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 38 atlas


    ah I wouldn't worry about it - that's still 49% who haven't and I'm one of them!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,958 ✭✭✭✭RuggieBear


    gom wrote:
    If I could clense one body of students. In know which would be first on my list :D

    Yeah. always one question i hated. I used to just look at the past papers. it was usually fairly obvious waht was comming up....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 38 atlas


    pekelly wrote:
    Yeah. always one question i hated. I used to just look at the past papers. it was usually fairly obvious waht was comming up....

    Better off getting rid of exams altogether. 3 hours of intense writing isn't necessarily the best way to test your understanding of a subject.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,958 ✭✭✭✭RuggieBear


    atlas wrote:
    Better off getting rid of exams altogether. 3 hours of intense writing isn't necessarily the best way to test your understanding of a subject.

    I was wondering how long it would take you to jump in!! :D

    Do you reckon it should be presentation style in front of everyone...like what happened to me :eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 38 atlas


    Presentations are only one way of "testing" people. And they should be in a friendly as opposed to hostile environment. Other ways are projects (individual or group), essays, performative dance, singing contests, etc


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,958 ✭✭✭✭RuggieBear


    atlas wrote:
    Presentations are only one way of "testing" people. And they should be in a friendly as opposed to hostile environment. Other ways are projects (individual or group), essays, performative dance, singing contests, etc

    LOL....i'm still trying to get my dance routine sorted out......find that phosphate is a pain o interpret.... ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,314 ✭✭✭Nietzschean


    Well to take the CS exam i had at the end of term, er a programming exam on paper? it just makes no sence to being with, exam encouraged people to just learn off material with it being quite predicible n so on. Sit everyone down in comp labs and come up with a random project to make em do, would have made so much more sence.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,198 ✭✭✭✭Crash


    Pekelly: thanks for the male to female ratio list, always handy to have. :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,095 ✭✭✭Chick


    the female/male ratio won't work in my favour. Damn! ;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,958 ✭✭✭✭RuggieBear


    the female/male ratio won't work in my favour. Damn! ;)

    Well you know college is all about broadening your horizons......


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 38 atlas


    Triceradon wrote:
    Sit everyone down in comp labs and come up with a random project to make em do, would have made so much more sence.....

    wouldn't it just? My brother had to do the same in Limerick and we heard about it for weeks! Although I did a Java in a computer lab with access to the Internet - not a good idea for a proper exam environment.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 38 atlas


    pekelly corrupting young girls - you should be ashamed of yourself! Someone should tell your mammy


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,095 ✭✭✭Chick


    pekelly wrote:
    Well you know college is all about broadening your horizons......

    lol well i did say i was up for anything....!

    atlas dont worry about kelly corrupting me, i think i can just about handle it lol


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,163 ✭✭✭✭Boston


    Often in the engineering exams we get asked question like explain why your method works and other questions based on the understanding of concepts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,198 ✭✭✭✭Crash


    pekelly wrote:
    Well you know college is all about broadening your horizons......
    Kelly you sick sick git, thats disgraceful! she so much younger than you and all!


    Get me pics mmkay? ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,958 ✭✭✭✭RuggieBear


    atlas wrote:
    pekelly corrupting young girls - you should be ashamed of yourself! Someone should tell your mammy


    I'm a good person really!!!! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,958 ✭✭✭✭RuggieBear


    crash_000 wrote:
    Kelly you sick sick git, thats disgraceful! she so much younger than you and all!


    Get me pics mmkay? ;)


    LOL.....I'll see what i can do!!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,163 ✭✭✭✭Boston


    You are now attending (to give it its full title)
    College.

    Is the SciFi society still in house 6 or did they get run out of it like Gamers? Ah, memories....

    I'd like to hear more about this gamers getting run out of house six.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,095 ✭✭✭Chick


    pekelly- exactly how old are you....? i mean i wasnt under the impression you were a fresher or anything, but judging by these reactions, i'm still wrong about how old you are! I'm 19 in december btw :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,523 ✭✭✭ApeXaviour


    I got dragged down to a gamers meeting once by a friend (in return I was to drag him to a nightclub). To get there we had to enter the goldsmith and then go through a maze of back corridors and doors (I got completely lost) til we got to this,
    well... hovel.
    It vibrated intensly any-time a train went by and its walls and roof were one, a cylindrical arch type thing (probably to support the trains goin overhead). That's not to say it wasn't a pretty kewl place :D , crack-den like but still pretty nifty. There was space, hippy-couches, a carpet and multitudes of game-like paraphenalia. One thing it lacked... no women and no beer.

    Tekken was the only reason I stayed for a few hours.. I used to think I was the king of it, but in that place I was only just above average :o
    Couldn't handle the shame so I never went back. My mate never came to that nite-club either..


  • Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 32,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭DeVore


    Trivia: I was one of the people who brought the SciFi from small nerd infested soc to a giant nerd infested soc :)... We controled a lot of the society money back then (through the CSC) and I often wondered what has happened to them since then...
    (Was con director for Leprecon 11 (I think) too!)...

    Anyone from '89-92 era here?

    DeV.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,198 ✭✭✭✭Crash


    Oh god toms started reminiscing....we'll never get him to stop now :/


  • Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 32,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭DeVore


    Quiet you!

    DeV.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,958 ✭✭✭✭RuggieBear


    pekelly- exactly how old are you....? i mean i wasnt under the impression you were a fresher or anything, but judging by these reactions, i'm still wrong about how old you are! I'm 19 in december btw :D

    Oh don't worry about those reactions....lol :D

    I'm all of 26! :eek:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,163 ✭✭✭✭Boston


    apexaviour wrote:
    I got dragged down to a gamers meeting once by a friend (in return I was to drag him to a nightclub). To get there we had to enter the goldsmith and then go through a maze of back corridors and doors (I got completely lost) til we got to this,
    well... hovel.
    It vibrated intensly any-time a train went by and its walls and roof were one, a cylindrical arch type thing (probably to support the trains goin overhead). That's not to say it wasn't a pretty kewl place :D , crack-den like but still pretty nifty. There was space, hippy-couches, a carpet and multitudes of game-like paraphenalia. One thing it lacked... no women and no beer.

    Tekken was the only reason I stayed for a few hours.. I used to think I was the king of it, but in that place I was only just above average :o
    Couldn't handle the shame so I never went back. My mate never came to that nite-club either..

    Its got great atmosphere, real good buzz of the gamers dungeon. And theres now a couple of females. Don't go to often myself, but friends do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,578 ✭✭✭Slutmonkey57b


    Women?? In Gamers??? Lies, all lies.

    SciFi society had some of the best society rooms at the top of House 6 - I almost got heavily involved in 1st year but then I remembered the stairs. Some very cool people in SciFi and they do all the movie screenings so they're not a bunch of spotty nerds like the comp Sci societies. But last I heard college was planning on running them out of house 6.

    Gamers, equally had cool rooms at the top of house 4 but got "moved" after being accused of pis.sing down the stairwell and pouring concrete down it in and end of year celebration - which, believe it or not was the work of the chess society. The new rooms are impossible to find which narrows their membership but they DO suit the gamers soc well. Dark, fetid dungeon.

    The over-pampered Law, Hist and Phil of course have the best rooms despite the fact that their debating teams get progressively more embarrassing as the years go by.

    For those that don't know, yes "conversion of Papists" is part of the official title of the college, but you won't find it on any literature anymore. Just like provisions for scholars to have a yard of ale in an exam, or to carry a sheathed sword, it is a pleasant anachronism that underlines just how much better Trinity is than the various culchie technical institutes of farming masquerading as universities.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,958 ✭✭✭✭RuggieBear


    .... that underlines just how much better Trinity is than the various culchie technical institutes of farming masquerading as universities.
    Are you including the belfield polytechnic in that sweeping generalisation...coz if you are, i'm going to have to get up on my high horse and.....oh ****e!!! ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 610 ✭✭✭article6


    Gamers, equally had cool rooms at the top of house 4 but got "moved" after being accused of pis.sing down the stairwell and pouring concrete down it in and end of year celebration - which, believe it or not was the work of the chess society.

    They ought to have let the concrete set in a black-and-white checked pattern, and watch everyone try to figure out who did it. Or are you just teasing us freshers with a myth along the lines of "stealing the bust of Myles na gCopaleen off its plinth"?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,095 ✭✭✭Chick


    pekelly wrote:
    Oh don't worry about those reactions....lol :D I'm all of 26! :eek:

    26, thats not that bad, lol. all the same though, you're nearly 7 years older than me, so no student nurse lovin' for you!


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  • Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 32,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭DeVore


    The SciFi got accused of ripping open the top of the car of the Junior Dean and filling it full of empty kegs in protest at the keg ban. It wasnt us, it was the Eng Soc actually but everyone thought it was us because we were, um, a little unorthodox.
    Later that year the Auditor and I ended up in front of the dean again for our end of year party on which we blew all the cash we'd made from films (about 3K) on beer and got a little out of hand. We also got served a copyright infringement letter by two very scary suits one night and had to go legal!
    Fun times :)

    Anyone know whats going on with the SciFi now? Might stick my head in and say hello sometime!

    DeV.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 38 atlas


    A few of my friends used to be in it about 4 years ago - was a deadly room to hang out in then but they all left college and left little old me behind.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 38 atlas


    Jesus, I really need to get a job.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,958 ✭✭✭✭RuggieBear


    26, thats not that bad, lol. all the same though, you're nearly 7 years older than me, so no student nurse lovin' for you!

    Damn! looks like another year without me grabbing meself a fresher!!!! :D My girlfriend will be delighted! ;)
    atlas wrote:
    Jesus, I really need to get a job.

    Know the feeling honey!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,958 ✭✭✭✭RuggieBear


    Pretty sure it's another college myth but wasn't there something about hiding a car on a building or in a building or something......?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,010 ✭✭✭Dr_Teeth


    *sniff* good old Trinners! :D I founded the Internet Society (Netsoc) with a few friends of mine there, what.. 8 years ago? Good god.

    Anyway, have fun all you little CSers! Don't mind about DLD that's piss easy.. in my day it were 2BA5 - Digital Electronics that scuppered everyone.

    Teeth.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,578 ✭✭✭Slutmonkey57b


    article6 wrote:
    They ought to have let the concrete set in a black-and-white checked pattern, and watch everyone try to figure out who did it. Or are you just teasing us freshers with a myth along the lines of "stealing the bust of Myles na gCopaleen off its plinth"?

    No, entirely true. Fortunatly the concrete didn't get wet.

    Belfield Polytechnic = University of Culchie Degenerates.
    The reason it's on so much land is so the boggers can bring their favourite animal from home to keep them company.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,314 ✭✭✭Nietzschean


    ah good ole ucd bashing, hrmm quality stuff.....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 137 ✭✭celingfan


    Theres only one was to describe the people in the "Gamers Society" is it LOSERS in freshers week they play with plastic swords and arrows like my seven year old brother imagin your first day in Trinity and you see people playing with palstic swords you'd go what the Fcuk,these people didnt get beat up enough at school most of them have never spoken to a girl before let alone touch them in an indecent fasion.nough said


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,523 ✭✭✭ApeXaviour


    My single experience of gamers (I hate to admit) backs up ceilingfan all the way. I won't go into detail cos I believe in a thing called tact.
    most of them have never spoken to a girl

    But Ceiling, you know apparently they have women in gamers now. So I assume they talk to these girls. At least I can say that for them ;)


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