Comps // Tournies

po0k

Submit suggestions for tournies.

Try to keep in mind the number of "Winner(s)" produced at the end for the purposes of dealing out prizes etc.

I want to have a good section of "Free Play" at this lan too, we're not GameCon

My suggestions:

Some sort of Battlefield (8v8 or something, may end up with token prizes )

Quake3 - either duels or CTF or something - OSP more than likely.

CS - 4v4, set maps, concurrent matches in early rounds, final round best of 3 random maps.
probaly 1.6 thanks to Caliden's trawling through Steam forum posts and other similar dross to find the command parameter to disable steam's need for net access to run a linux LAN server...
Steam still sucks sweaty balls btw

Doom3 4-way Deathmatch

Fobia

How about some ut2k4 duels?

I havent really played the game much yet, but the best way to play seems to with air control 1.5 (I think), ut comp mod (for warmup etc) and maybe quadjump.

Of course I'm always pimping qw, but how abouts a game of CA? Most people seemed to enjoy it at gl8. Some kind of fun prize is all that's necessary, I'll put together a small qw duels tourni where you put a fiver into a pot to play etc if there is enough interest.

I have the CA server and know how to use it - there's a ut2k4 dedicated server available from their website http://www.unrealtournament.com/ut2004/downloads.php

I'm not sure on whether the retail server runs on linux or not, but the demo version does........of course that map......what's it's name....osiris or something, the main duel one, if they have that then it'll be good crack

que

NeoSlicerZ

A Natural Selection tournie would be cool, doubt it would happen though.... maybe on a CO map instead of a NS map?

po0k

STEAM-ified gheyness.

Neo - it's a great game, but damn-all people know how to play it.

Asok would just end up pwning everyone.

Fobia

We can lure Asok away with number6......I have ns on a cd here somewhere


ut2k4? CA? So much left unanswered, so little time!

timeout

I'd like to see a Serious Sam deathmatch or/and ET.
Both would be firsts time tourni's for Galway Lan.

Timeout

Number6

I'm not going to be your bait youth.

I suggest an opflash tourny, A huge map with 16V16 last one standing rules or a small 4V4 game with sniper rifles and stuff.

A BF lan sounds good. Could it be 1942 and not DC tho, because the planes go too fast

Fobia

Just got pro-mode for q3, it ****ing owns.

Like osp, you can do the strafe jump and keep jumping to gain speed trick that some believe is bunny hopping (wrong), and you can also move in the air, which is cool for dodging and ****.

This is alot better than OSP. Who's up for it at the next'un?

que

Anima

What is bunny hopping so ?

Fobia

Bunny hopping: jumping rythmically without holding +forward while moving in the air in order to gain speed.

The simple bunny hop: Go to a map with a long straight line (speed), perform a strafe jump by looking to the left side, holding the forward and right keys, then at a moderate pace, move the mouse until you are facing forwards, jump. Then you must keep jumping without moving on the ground (worth a bit of practise first). Next, you must release the forward key, keep jumping in that rythm, you'll notice that you can now move the mouse in any direction without losing any speed or turning. Next, the actual bunny hop; you must, just when you hit the ground, press left and hold it, while in the air, move the mouse slowly to the left, when you hit the ground again (and jump obviously), press right and hold it, while in the air, move the mouse slowly to the right. Doing this you will gradually keep gaining speed.

Of course, there are shortcuts and alot harder methods of performing the bunny hop, but it would take hours to write out all of them, I learnt by watching better people than me bunny in demos.

Hope this helps,

dave

tman

i bunny hopped yore sister

po0k

I typedef'd your sister.

Doodee

err, just to let ya know. Bunny hopping comes about from a warped physics engine. As far as im aware, I not 100% certain, but i think id wont be allowing it in future games. Especially with the new Engine being used. But dont quote me on that since i havent read up too much on it.

Fobia

Joodee: correct. But wall hugging, strafe jumping and bunny hopping ALL came from bugs, they will probably leave out bunny hopping, but mods will bring it back, as cpma has for q3.

que

NeoSlicerZ

SyxPak wrote:

STEAM-ified gheyness.

Neo - it's a great game, but damn-all people know how to play it.

Asok would just end up pwning everyone.

John, the co style maps instead of the 'ns' ones would work a treat, NS style combat without the logistics

DRakE

cs has to be 5v5. sorry, but its **** otherwise.

q3 1v1's woul dbe cool, osp.

ut2k4, no one knows how to play this / the maps so it'd end up being ****.

battlefield, no comment. except that its bollocks.

ns? hahaha

Fobia

OSP it is so, I've volunteered to admin the server but if anyone thinks they can do a better job then go for it.

btw, you might want to try out cpma before the wan tho, you can download the small client at like 2 megs, but it doesn't come with any of the maps. You can do all the movement in OSP, but you can have a go at taking off the forward key and jumping around, too.

Before ye accuse me of trying to fix the tourni, anyone who's seen me play can verify that I don't play q3.......and I suck at it

que

Doodee

Wh00t. Time to get my Quake 3 skills on!

DRakE

you coming to this lan jp?

Sniipe

CS 5v5,
QW 2 on 2 and 1 on 1
Q3 whatever... 5 on 5
Battlefield 1942 something V something, 4 teams???
NS, I'd be willing to give it a go if it twas easy to set up and ready to go on my PC
I'll give anything competitive a go.
Halo, I don't think it will be played
C&C Zerohour, 1V1
W3, TFT or one of those new add ons. 1V1, or 2V2
for 2v2 in any game --> n00b and l33t on a team. that way the n00b (me) would learn quicker and have a bit of fun.
UT2K4, I've played it a few times, its ok... when ur winning I guess, maps are too big for the likes of onslaught, I've not played much else, I've not completed it
Doom3, I don't think that will happen.
Farcry, I don't think that will happen.
opflash, tbh, I've never played it... looks like there is interest in it.
America's army, blah
Some other fps where the gun moves, blah to that too.

NeoSlicerZ

Sniipe wrote:

NS, I'd be willing to give it a go if it twas easy to set up and ready to go on my PC
I'll give anything competitive a go.
W3, TFT or one of those new add ons. 1V1

Yes, please! With patch 1.17. Who was that guy i murdered in WC3 : TFT last time?

DRakE

i'd play zero hour

Fobia

Sniipe wrote:

QW 2 on 2 and 1 on 1

If there's interest I'll run whatever needs to be run in qw, if not then we should just stick to q3 cpma.

I've given up,
que

DRakE

we are playing q3 OSP

end of story.

Fobia

It's been discussed, and decided upon.

It's gonna be cpma.

que

Sniipe

Excuse my ignorants to Quake 3 but what is OSP as opposed to cpma? Q3 is too colourful and random for me. But as I said I'll give anything a go. Then if I like it I'll stick with it.
I bought CS CZ recently and am playing that quite a bit, it very fun...

Anima

Osp is vanilla q3 with some minor interface adjustments etc.
Cpma (or promode) is q3 with q1 physics and fastswitching plus the rockets are faster.

Osp would probably be better for the lan because most people would probably never have played promode before.

Fobia

Anima wrote:

Osp is vanilla q3 with some minor interface adjustments etc.
Cpma (or promode) is q3 with q1 physics and fastswitching plus the rockets are faster.

Close, but no dice.

OSP is indeed vanilla q3 with adjustments, but these include;

Fullbright skins and models.

Faster strafe jumping (I think)

A generally smoother game (company name?)

CPMA, or Challenge Pro Mode Association is vanilla q3 with more adjustments, it features;

every graphical change from OSP

Alot more configurable **** (you can basically get every display setting from quake2 in there if you want)

Air control (NOT qw physics, cpma retains the easy strafe jumping from OSP/vanilla, while it allows basic bunny hopping, it is certainly not as good movement wise as qw. Also there is a limit on speed so I wont be flying around ye or anything)

Faster rockets

That's about it, nothing major, I don't really mind, but cpma is alot more fun to play than OSP, and most people who've played it for a while agree, also everyone will play it, qw'ers, cs'ers and q3'ers alike, which is always a bonus.

Of course, this is all a bit stupid, I don't know what the deal with the tourni is, but Doodee will be running a cpma server on Molly, I wont have anything to do with it.

que

Caliden

the only reason you want to play CPMA is that its similar to qw, and YOU decied upon it, there was no vote. only in irc one day at afternoon you said something similar to "so Q3 CPMA???" no replies within 5 minutes so you took it upon yourself to choose.
even Syxpak said OSP if i remeber correctly, il dig out the irc log when i get net connection.
stick to your QW and let Syx organise the Q3 or Anima or something

Anima

Strafe jumping is the same in osp and there is no limit to the speed in cpma.

I don't care who runs the tornament, it probably won't ever happen but it would be nice to get a few games in.

Fobia

Caliden: You are not online ALL the time, Doodee decided upon it in the end, not me. I'd post logs only I can't keep them when I'm using mouselike.org. As I've already said, I'm not trying to make ye play cpma, but it's a much better mod and if ye gave it a try ye'd probably end up preferring it to OSP.

Anima: There has been a limit of 650 or thereabouts in cpma since 1.1, it IS possible to get past this, but certainly no-one in galway could do it.

There has been more interest in q3 than qw over the last 3 GL's, so I don't see why a tourniment wouldn't go ahead considering there have been qw ones....just needs someone to organise it is all.

Also, this is not JUST talking about the tourniment, it's what will be run on the server for fun games. I propose: Run cpma and let everyone play a few games on it, if ye're unhappy then it can be switched to OSP.

It's only a game,
que

Sniipe

I've only played Q3 origional and would prefer to play something similar to it if I was going to play other ppl in it. Otherwise an unfair advantage.

Sniipe

Oh I can get 651 in cpma on post 1.1

Fobia

Heh,
you've played both qw and q3, as have most of the q3'ers at the LAN, so you'll be ok.

Most of ye have a 50 50 style, I have 80% qw and 20% q3, dunno how it'll work out in a q3 comp having never played in one, but I'd say my chances are the same in both OSP and cpma if that's what all the bitching is about.

Just give it a chance, I can burn cpma to a cd if anyone wants it (80meg, not for modem download ).

Maybe a poll would be the solution, tho I'm pretty sure this thread is doing a good job in pissing Doodee off to extreme levels .

que

po0k

Point gun, click, run away.

It's not quantum mechanics.

Number6

SyxPak wrote:

It's not quantum mechanics.

A quantum mechanics game you say... sounds interesting. I would like to subscribe to your newsletter, good sir.

DRakE

fuck off que.

why dont we play a real world counter terrorism quake 3 mod... i mean, it might make me better at it, since thats the game i like the best ))))))

Caliden

haha alan, you're shit





Bomberman this time around?

DRakE

oh, and discussed doesnt mean you pm'd doodee and he said "yea **** off" or whatnot

po0k

Lads, quit the bitching.

It demeans you all.

DRakE

it demeans YOU all!

Fobia

"it demeans you all"

I'd just like to state that the following post has NOTHING to do with that one, I don't generally listen to Syxpak, nor can the public opinion of me get any lower really .

However, my sources (as in, anima and caliden talking on #galwaylan) tell me that half the people arguing on behalf of OSP (or even all..) mightn't be attending the next GL as there is some 13370 cs tourni on in wexford. So how abouts have both servers ready (I'll help if you need me), and on the day, quick vote on which to play. No more meanless arguing.

Sound fair?

que

DRakE

shut up.

its in waterford. and we probably wont be going unless a space opens up.

cockface.

Fobia

Good mature post there alan.

My apologies for not knowing/caring where all the cs LANs are staged in Ireland.

Back on topic, surely you can't say no to my proposition.....if you're there you can vote, if you're not then why do you care which mod is played?

que

Sniipe

Poor quetzal, lol, the carma thing is red (first one I've seen red so far...) "Fobia can only hope to improve"
Whats with the Drake V Fobia thing anyway. All I can gather is Fobia is pro QW and is hell bent on getting everyone to follow (I don't mind that). Then Drake is (just bent ; kidding) pro CS but isn't putting in the effort for it as much recently.

Anyway, Syxpak and I have been looking at one of the venues. Its a nice place in the middle of nowhere(menlo) with a big hall. If we get the place on fri I intend on putting a lot of effort into getting the tournies timetabled and ppl on teams and such. I'll prob be doing this on the way down from dublin or whatever... any ideas, more imput. Timetable shouldn't be ridgit.

DRakE

i will be at galway lan. how about we play box wars.. its a cool mod for cool people.. makes you bunnyhop faster ^_^

po0k

Sniipe wrote:

Whats with the Drake V Fobia thing anyway. All I can gather is Fobia is pro QW and is hell bent on getting everyone to follow (I don't mind that). Then Drake is (just bent ; kidding) pro CS but isn't putting in the effort for it as much recently.

They each secretly harbour a passion for the other.

I don't know, and I don't care. More to the point, I don't want to see it on here. Take that **** to the CS/Quake boards

Bickering little maggots.
I've a good mind to run a 2V2 Q3 Chicken-mod tourny instead.

Fobia

Sniipe wrote:

Poor quetzal, lol, the carma thing is red (first one I've seen red so far...) "Fobia can only hope to improve"
Whats with the Drake V Fobia thing anyway. All I can gather is Fobia is pro QW and is hell bent on getting everyone to follow (I don't mind that). Then Drake is (just bent ; kidding) pro CS but isn't putting in the effort for it as much recently.

I got alot of bad rep with comments like "quake suxxors Cs rocks0rs" etc.....don't really care.

Me vs Drake? Don't think there's any feud there, he just goes spa when he doesn't get his way and I'd prefer to play cpma rather than OSP......

I've kind of stopped playing qw lately so I wouldn't call myself "pro".....I still love it, but jesus I wasted 6 months of my life to that game - time to learn how to talk again.

Maybe we should play OSP....I've been playing alot of q3 lately and if I may say so myself I'm pretty damn good at it.

Don't really care, cpma is better, if ye're gonna get bitchy, OSP will do.

'sides, it's not as if anyone other than john and jp can really decide....and john wants to play OSP simply because he knows what it stands for

Challenge Pro Mode Association. There, now you should be unbiased .

que

po0k

Orange Smoothie Pro.
Has a nicer ring to it, and as far as I'm concerned there's no difference between the two for the majority of gamers who will be playing.

Christ, when did pointing guns at your mates for fun become so complicated?

tman

UT2004 - Instagib DM

have each contestant pick a map of choice - each map is then added to the maplist. play each one with a frag limit of 30-40. the person with the most wins at the end is the daddy.

forbairt

god I bought UT 2004 and then I hardly played it but it sounds good ... nothing like a bit of onslaught