Slipknot/Slayer?

claire9

hey, does anyone know if they might be playin ireland too, when they tour the uk in a few mths?

dimerocks

nope i think slayer will come back on their own but i don't think slipknot are coming and it wont be tillk the new album gets put out

It wasn't me!

When might Slayer be gracing our humble shores?
*excitement*

dimerocks

maybe they will tour with the dvd live version of reing in blood??

projectmayhem

they may be coming. i don't think the european dates have been fully confirmed for the tour (there's a slipknot/slayer "co-headliner" tour), so you never know

claire9

well this time last yr, Machine Head announced their uk dates, and didn't announce dublin until around september, so it could happen

dimerocks

i guess its still possible and i hope it happens but not sure if it will

freakydeadgirl

i missed them by a day when they came through.
but my friends saw them and have rubbed it in to all hell

cournioni

Hope Slayer come. They always put on a great show. Hopefully they'll play alot of their old stuff too.

Spalk0

Yeah i missed it when Slipknot were supporting Metallica!.....Was due to my mates holding me up and public transport so was a tad disappointed at that but Metallica more than made up for it!

Wouldnt mind Slipknot coming here again though!

Pantera

Would definitely like to see slayer again... they ruled at ozzfest. If they do come back thought I would like to here all the old stuff.

Spalk0

Was never a Slayer fan to be honest!.....All me mates were into them and they couldnt for the life of them understand why i didnt like them!HEHE what can ya do ay!

cournioni

You'll be blown away if you go to one of their concerts. They've got some classic heavy material too.

Spalk0

Well i did actually see Slayer at ozzfest 2002!......or was Slayer playing then, not too sure!Was quite intoxicated at that time!HAHA.....Just never got into them really!.....not my cup of tea so to speak!

Matthewthebig

Slayers current live set consists of them playing Reign In Blood the album all the way from Angel Of Death to Agressive Perfector. That'd be so sweet. Slipknot are brilliant they need there own show and not supporting metallica *cough*. They are brilliant on Disasterpieces. wouldn't the Ambassador be the greatest venue for Slayer/Slipknot

cournioni

Yeah, its a great place for a gig. It would be too small of a venue for Slipknot and Slayer, Slayer alone would be too big for it.

claire9

i reckon the point would be great for this!

John

The Point is one of the biggest sound destroyers ever, rivalled only by the RDS. I'm not big on the Ambassador either, saw Queens of the Stone Age there and I couldn't hear the bass during a bass solo. Vicar Street all the way.

And I saw Slayer at Ozzfest too, they were so disappointing. The gig put me off even listening to the cd's up until recently.

DemoniZed

I don't think that the Slayer/Slipknot tour is coming to Ireland cos i know the guy who makes their website and he says he doesnt think so.

Shiminay

I saw in Metal Hammer (I think) some details about their double header show in London. Comments from Kerry King were something like "We'll probably play Reign In Blood from start to finish like we've been doing in other shows recently."

Cool.

Then Corey Taylor said something along the lines of "If they think they're gonna steal the show, our fans will show them what we're all about" or some other such bull.

When I finally got off the floor and stopped laughing at the mere suggestion that Slipknot could possibly be on par with Slayer (never mind better), I then realised that if Slayer go on first, there won't be any Slipknot fans left to "show what they're all about" so I felt that this would work out quite well as Slipknot would once again have a whole host of nastiness thrown at them like what happened to them in France a few months ago.

Maybe it's all just a neat way of getting rid of all the Slipknot fans...

Matthewthebig

I'm not big on the Ambassador either, saw Queens of the Stone Age there and I couldn't hear the bass during a bass solo.

You need ear plugs there the sound is mixed for that when i put my fingers in my ears at Distillers could hear everything better.

Slipknot are a brilliant band they just got connected with mini-rockers which is horrible

Dathai

I dont see the big fascination with Slipknot.They're not that good at all.

demanufactured

i like em
they put on a good show with metallica

pity about the sound tho the RDS is ****e

It wasn't me!

eah, you need a smaller venue for good sound, or a well-designed one like Slane. I vote Slayer in the Music Centre! That's be so much fun, and slaughter!

Shiminay

I see your point Mat (if I may address you as such?) - the "kids" got onto the Slipknot wagon cause they're the most obviously metal "looking" act around in time to catch a hold of the new opportunities for metal (brought on by Rage Against The Machine, Korn and to a certain extend Cypress Hill) and obvious poster-boys for the whole thing.

My particular problem with them is that they had the potential to be one of the greatest bands ever - I honestly believe that - if they only had a proper metal singer and got rid of those 2 useless fuckwits that hit the barrels or whatever. Their first album is still something I listen to quite often, but my tastes have moved onto much heavier things these days.

crimsonfire

i have been scouring the net looking for info on the unholy alliance tour. coming here didnt exactly lift my spirits any. slipknot are apparently a bunch of **** in person but i dont care! as long as i see them again! never seen slayer live although the very thought of it makes me shiver with excitement. slipknot are one of my favorite bands ever but they should know their place and go on before slayer out of sheer respect if nothing else. these two bands simply must come to dublin. they must!!! if not then i'll probably start saving to go to download next year. its a foregone conclusion theyll be in the lineup for that. (or is it..... )

rootofallevil

saw slayer in the Point for Tattoo the Planet bout 3yrs ago, huge disappointment, may as well have put on a CD and had paper cut-outs on stage. it would have sounded better and had as much life in it. Used to be a huge fan before that but have barely listened to them since. i actually think i would go see slipknot before i'd go see slayer again, thats how bad they were.

I am MAN

Will never understand why people like slipknot they are untalented fools with a crap image.

slayer9603

I am MAN wrote:

Will never understand why people like slipknot they are untalented fools with a crap image.

I don't know, I used to think like you did but I now I have some new found respect for them for entertaining me on numerous occasions. However I totally respect opinion.

As for the Slayer/Slipknot show, I'm dying to see it. I met Kerry King at Ozzfest in Ohio last august and asked him if they had any plans to come to Ireland, he said they had no plans to return, and judging by his lack of interest in the topic, I assumed he did not care and proceeded to praise him.

cournioni

rootofallevil wrote:

saw slayer in the Point for Tattoo the Planet bout 3yrs ago, huge disappointment, may as well have put on a CD and had paper cut-outs on stage. it would have sounded better and had as much life in it. Used to be a huge fan before that but have barely listened to them since. i actually think i would go see slipknot before i'd go see slayer again, thats how bad they were.

Slayer were excellent at Ozzfest. They were far better than they were at TTP. They were the best band at Ozzfest by far too.

Slipknot going on their performance this year are absolutely abysmal live. I've never seen such a crap performance even from a pub band.

Matthewthebig

Kharn wrote:

I see your point Mat (if I may address you as such?) - the "kids" got onto the Slipknot wagon cause they're the most obviously metal "looking" act around in time to catch a hold of the new opportunities for metal (brought on by Rage Against The Machine, Korn and to a certain extend Cypress Hill) and obvious poster-boys for the whole thing.

Yes you can call me that and i agree with the part i quoted.

I thought they were very good live mind you I'm a pretty big fan of Slipknot. they got a hell of a lot of energy. it was just because it was open air most bands lose effect in "Stadium" situations if they'd been in an inclosed venue they'd have killed.

John

PORNAPSTER wrote:

Slayer were excellent at Ozzfest. They were far better than they were at TTP. They were the best band at Ozzfest by far too.

Slayer's performance at Ozzfest put me off them for ages, it was over a year before I could bear putting on one of their cd's, they were terrible. I'd never pay to see them again after seeing them there. Tool were far better.

cournioni

You sure you're not confusing Slayer with Lostprophets there John2?! :P

claire9

Kharn wrote:

I see your point Mat (if I may address you as such?) - the "kids" got onto the Slipknot wagon cause they're the most obviously metal "looking" act around in time to catch a hold of the new opportunities for metal (brought on by Rage Against The Machine, Korn and to a certain extend Cypress Hill) and obvious poster-boys for the whole thing.

My particular problem with them is that they had the potential to be one of the greatest bands ever - I honestly believe that - if they only had a proper metal singer and got rid of those 2 useless fuckwits that hit the barrels or whatever. Their first album is still something I listen to quite often, but my tastes have moved onto much heavier things these days.

well, i think iowa is a much heavier album, and they don't just 'hit the barrels', they're proper percussionists, and it adds to their heaviness even more, (joey's drums are ****in heavy enough tho)

crimsonfire - sounds like slayer are the **** in person, goin by what slayer9603 said, at least when i asked corey a yr ago if they were comin here, he was genuinly interested in what i was askin and said they'd try to come over soon

Smellyirishman

TBH (and I have my flame retardant suit on so feel free!) I think slipknot Could and most times would out do SLayer /ducks and dives

Now my reasoning behind this.

Slipknot were immensly experimental with mate.feed.kill repeat and some songs are very good. Then with Slipknot(ST) They proved they could make GREAT records and that they were an immense metal force. With IOWA They proved they were not one hit wonders and that not only that but they could also change there sound, with normal errie and melodic songs on IOWA.

Finally , Vol3 The subliminal verses, Well, need I say anything! This album is not the heaviest by FAR, but musically it could be one of the best. This album has some GREAT songs, and slipknot have completly redefined themselves and done it well. Can you remember the last band to do this? (metallica? HA!, Korn? HA)

Now onto Slayer, they have been singlehandedly responsable for the metal revolution, but are they REALLY that good? Personally I can listen to maybe 7-10 songs and think WOW they are great, for example Raining blood,Bloodline,Seasons in the abyss. After that however they become much of the same and the riffs are not to crisp and solos (despite being fast) are just a slur and make no musical sense.

I do not doubt that Slayer have been all important for the standing ground for slipknot but I do believe that slipknot are better artists.

It was after all , both of Slipknot`s albums that made Slayer go back to studio to try and make another good album.

Also, why must slipknot fans be the "kids", why must we be the ones following an image? Do slayer fans not realise that they have stood by one single band for 20 years and any other band that comes out they say "they suck compared to Slayer, anyone who likes them dont know metal music". Do slayer fans not realise that THEY are the ones following an image?

I realise the Flames are going to fly and I accept that, but I feel I have argueed my point well so flame-on!!

P.S I dont HATE SLayer or anything, like I said I enjoy some of there music and the rest I can easily listen to, I think they have made HUGE breakthroughs but that is it, they paved the way for the better bands.


PPS. Hopefully there will be a slipknot/Slayer concert here in Ireland, maybe in the village . I read in a newspaper article with jim root (slipknot guitarist, that they would be coming back to europe and ireland in september-end of year, obviously talking about this tour, so I would not get your hopes down yet, but at the same time it is looking more more and unlikely)

John

PORNAPSTER wrote:

You sure you're not confusing Slayer with Lostprophets there John2?! :P

Of course I'm not, Slayer are the blokes with the Transformers on all their album covers aren't they?

0utshined

Smellyirishman wrote:

Now onto Slayer, they have been singlehandedly responsable for the metal revolution, but are they REALLY that good?

Yes

claire9

i think it will happen over here, in the point, cos there was that rumour of them comin in december sometime..the only thing in the way is that ****in mamma mia **** goin on

the_syco

Well, due to the JÄGERMEISTER MUSIC TOUR who they're tourig with Killswitch Engage & Mastodon, they won't be over before December 17th, but after then, who knows?

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As for Slipknot; they experiment. And some like that. The 1st album was alright, but they only used 2 or 3 strings for every song, so they sounded a bit cr4p. Duality sounds nice, and hopefully it isn't the only one of that album. As for the little kids liking Slipknot, its mainly to do with them not having a "family friendly" image (truth or taser, anyone?), thus the little kids love them. If Slipknot had a nicer image, the kids wouldn't like them, but hey, its all image, ain't it?

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As for Slayer; saw them once or twice. They are f00kin excellent!!! You can hear the lyrics, and they make sense :cool: so thats why so many like them!

crimsonfire

Smellyirishman wrote:

Finally , Vol3 The subliminal verses, Well, need I say anything! This album is not the heaviest by FAR, but musically it could be one of the best.

I couldnt agree with you more.