How long to rip a DVD to Divx?

Col_Loki

Just wondering how long it takes people to rip a DVD to a Divx file?

I find that Xvid is much faster than Divx. To rip to a 700mb file divx can take 4-6hours, while Xvid takes 2-3hours....... any tips on getting it faster ?

Would like to see how the P4's perform.

talking_walnut

Hmm. Never really payed much attention. I use Xvid for all my encoding. Haven't used Divx in ages so I can't comment on the speed comparison. I'd say my times are about on par with yours though. Usually just set it going at night and its well done by morning. My biggest annoyance is the time it takes to convert the .ac3 to .ogg but its not too much of a problem. I think P4's are supposed to be faster at encoding and stuff but I've also heard Xvid is optimised for AMD chips.

Creamy Goodness

what's the simplest gob****e proof way of converting dvd's to xvid?

Col_Loki

I think P4's are supposed to be faster at encoding and stuff but I've also heard Xvid is optimised for AMD chips.

Yea thats what ive heard aswell. It gets annoying not being able to use your PC for anything else like playing a game etc when encoding (main reason im building a dual).

Whats your system specs?

what's the simplest gob****e proof way of converting dvd's to xvid?

Download Gordians Knot , and PM me your e-mail address. I'll send you a simple guide on how to set it up and get it going in 5mins (has pictures n all ) . The program is a b*tch to use at first, but its nice and simple when you know the settings etc........

RE*AC*TOR

simplest way - autogordian knot or dr divx (not xvid obviously)
its kind of generally insert dvd - press button - wait idea.

talking_walnut

Yeah AutoGK is supposed to be almost totaly automated. Gets updated alot too from what I can see. Never got around to trying it though. Gordian Knot is pretty straight forward when you get the hang of it.

I've got an XP3000+ with a gig of ram. I always set the priority in VirtualDub to idle though so I can still do things. The time doesn't really bother me as I never turn my PC off

Side Note: Anyone know where I can get a copy of Robot4Rip? Lost it when I installed the latest version of Gordian Knot (the stoped packaging it) and can't find it as a standalone. Could reinstall the older version to get it I suppose but I'm lazy Its really handy for automating the rippin and demuxing process, specially if your ripping a TV series or something

Creamy Goodness

thanks col,

will try it out in the morning, but now it's bed time

Dempsey

I can encode (DivX) an entire film within the time it takes to play it. Encoded a film with XviD once using a XP2800+ and it did fine, never got to try it encoding DivX. AMD encode better with XviD because it doesnt use any SSE2 instructions or something. DivX doesnt go well with AMD Xp's at all i hear.

Col_Loki

Yea god ive noticed how bad Divx can be sometimes. Xvid is fine and im pretty happy with it. I think i had Divx5.05 pro or something before i formatted my hard drive and that was faster (that the Divx5 im using now).

Dempsey what program do you use? I know there are programs that encode it in real time but there can be probs with audio sync when you skip ahead. I use gordian Knot and it timestamps n stuff.......
(hoping that a P4 isint that far ahead of the poor XP's as your encoding in half my time almost)

unklerosco

I use Gknot to rip my dvds, never checked to see how long it takes... Im gonna rip
Kill Bill soon, i'll post how long it takes on a P4sys...


1hr 35mins(films 1.45 long) using Xvid codec in Gknot(Divx was full o spyware so i killed it)

What time is it taking U???(col loki)

Col_Loki

Wow the P4's are alot better at encoding, thats damm fast.

I ripped 2Fast2Furious (roughly the same) in 2hrs 12mins. Usual time it takes is 2hrs 30mins for most of the DVD's, 3hrs when i up the quality and size.

1hr 35mins......... you bugger thats feckin brilliant, especially when its a quality rip (2pass yea?).

vishal

do a 2 pass, use qpel, 2 bframes (i think that is default), vhq4, and enable trelis quant and use h263 for a 1cd rip or mpeg quant for 2 cds. then tell us what speed you get?

talking_walnut

Probably gonna do some encoding tonight so I'll post some relative bit of my GK log tomorrow.
Gonna use your settings vishal. They're basicly the same as the ones I always use but I usually use vhq3 and no qpel. Are your settings gonna be much different?

Creamy Goodness

right i'm ripping my father ted dvd's and i have made an avi out of one of the vob's, but it contains two episodes.

is there any program (unless gknot does it and i don't know about it) that i can split the avi file at a certain point (i.e. end of one episode) ?

Col_Loki

http://www.tucows.com/preview/295346.html

Easy Video Splitter , i find it great....... really fast aswell.

the_syco

Cr3m0 wrote:

right i'm ripping my father ted dvd's and i have made an avi out of one of the vob's, but it contains two episodes.

is there any program (unless gknot does it and i don't know about it) that i can split the avi file at a certain point (i.e. end of one episode) ?

Although there are a few programs that do this; be warned. I once got a program that did a nice seperation, but the sound for the second half wasn't synched, so it was a bit muddled. So make sure you use the "trial" version, before you "buy" it.

talking_walnut

Ripped my DVD of The Eye. The films 1hr 32mins long. Was a bit slower with the higher vhq setting and qpel enabled. Heres the relevent bits from Gordian Knots log:

07:39:05: Started Xvid - First Pass: H:\DVD\ALI_SCN\THE_EYE.avs
08:26:27: Finished Xvid - First Pass: Duration: 47 minutes, 21 seconds.
08:26:27: Trying to open Log-file.
08:26:27: Success: Log-file open.
08:26:27: Encoded: 141007 Frames.
08:26:27: Speed: 49.626 Frames per Second.

08:26:27: Started Xvid - Second Pass: H:\DVD\ALI_SCN\THE_EYE.avs
10:52:26: Finished Xvid - Second Pass: Duration: 2 hours, 25 minutes, 58 seconds.
10:52:26: Speed: 16.100 Frames per Second.

10:54:45: Done.
10:54:45: Movie = H:\DVD\ALI_SCN\THE_EYE.ogm
Total Encoding Time: 3 hours, 15 minutes, 40 seconds.

talking_walnut

Cr3m0, the program VirtualDubMod that Gordian Knot uses to encode the films can be used to split the movie file too. It can also re-synch your audio. Plus its free There's some good guides here: http://www.doom9.org/virtualdub_procedures.htm
http://www.doom9.org/vdubmod-procedures.htm

vishal

seker16 wrote:

Probably gonna do some encoding tonight so I'll post some relative bit of my GK log tomorrow.
Gonna use your settings vishal. They're basicly the same as the ones I always use but I usually use vhq3 and no qpel. Are your settings gonna be much different?

vhq4 uses more motion estimation which results in higher quality but takes longer to encode.
qpel makes things look sharper and adds a slight grain effect which i think looks good. also this results in longer encoding times.

vishal

does anybody have a p4 bechmark with the same settings?

talking_walnut

I'd like to see some P4 figures too

Dempsey

Col Loki, im using GKnot 0.28.8.

I have disabled the profiles on the divx codec, using GMC and Bidirectional Encoding. Quarter Pixeling isnt up to scratch according to doom9 guides.

vishal

yeah qpel with divx is not good with 1 disc rips but with xvid its good imho.

talking_walnut

Here's some more info on qpel for anyone thats interested:
http://www.vslcatena.nl/~ronald/docs/xvidfaq.html#C3e

Creamy Goodness

took 2hours 15 minutes for fr ted series 1 to do and compress to 700 megs.

on a p4 3ghz 800fsb stock speed


not to shabby i think

elvis2002

I can rip a movie at 55 fps on my machine, usually if a movie is 90 minutes long I can rip in about 55 to 65 minutes. I have a 2600+ Amd Athlon Xp. Xvid rips full movies in about 30 minutes but I dont really like the quality of xvid and find it lacking sometimes.

talking_walnut

Are you using 1pass encoding elvis? Sounds like you are from your post. You should use 2, the quality is way better. Also, the settings your using could be your problem. Most comparisons i've seen say Xvid encodes with better results and a lot of the advanced features Xvid have aren't yet in Divx or are only recently added. Don't think I've seen a review with Divx comming out on top.

For people looking for more info on encoding with Xvid, check out the (un)official guide at http://www.vslcatena.nl/~ronald/docs/xvidfaq.html . It's the most up to date guide and covers pretty much anything you could want to know (and a lot you probably don't). For GKnot guide, check http://www.doom9.org

talking_walnut

So does anyone have any GKnot log files for encoding using a P4 for a good comparison?

Creamy Goodness

i'm doing some encoding tomorrow of fr ted second series part 1 i can post my log up if you really want it

unklerosco

vishal wrote:

do a 2 pass, use qpel, 2 bframes (i think that is default), vhq4, and enable trelis quant and use h263 for a 1cd rip or mpeg quant for 2 cds. then tell us what speed you get?

Im using Gknot n i cant see these options... I plan to encode Pitch Black ltr, Let me know how to change the settings n i'll post the results

Mutant_Fruit

elvis2002 wrote:

I can rip a movie at 55 fps on my machine, usually if a movie is 90 minutes long I can rip in about 55 to 65 minutes. I have a 2600+ Amd Athlon Xp. Xvid rips full movies in about 30 minutes but I dont really like the quality of xvid and find it lacking sometimes.

Sounds like you have all the quality options at their lowest... A p4 3.4ghz might be able to encode a second pass that fast, but i doubt it. Which leads me to the conclusion you're doing 1 pass, with VHQ off, and no bframes or trellis quantisation.

You need too do 2pass (as was suggested) enabling 2 consequtative (sic) bframes, trellis quantisation and VHQ4. Then let us know what you think of the quality. In "professional" comparisons, XviD came out well on top. Check out the www.doom9.org comparison.

Cr3m0 wrote:

Cr3m0 wrote:

right i'm ripping my father ted dvd's and i have made an avi out of one of the vob's, but it contains two episodes.

is there any program (unless gknot does it and i don't know about it) that i can split the avi file at a certain point (i.e. end of one episode) ?

Best way to split is to do it straight from the DVD. Fire up DVD Decryptor, and then flick it into IFO mode, then extract each section one by one, putting them in seperate folders. You'll know what i mean when you see the screen. Any probs, pm me or post here.

Then when you haev each section/episode, just riun those through GK as per usual.

Dempsey

14:26:51: Started DivX5-First Pass: C:\THE_MATRIX_REVOLUTIONS_D1\VIDEO_TS\Matrix Revolutions.avs
15:35:00: Finished DivX5-First Pass: Duration: 1 hour, 8 minutes, 8 seconds.
15:35:00: Encoded: 185945 Frames.
15:35:00: Speed: 45.478 Frames per Second.

15:35:00: Started DivX5 - Pass: 2: C:\THE_MATRIX_REVOLUTIONS_D1\VIDEO_TS\Matrix Revolutions.avs
16:36:45: Finished DivX5 - Pass: 2: Duration: 1 hour, 1 minute, 45 seconds.
16:36:45: Speed: 50.184 Frames per Second.

16:36:45: Started Muxing Audio.: C:\THE_MATRIX_REVOLUTIONS_D1\VIDEO_TS\Matrix Revolutions_1_Movie.avi
16:39:49: Finished Muxing Audio.: Duration: 3 minutes, 3 seconds.

16:39:49: Movie = C:\THE_MATRIX_REVOLUTIONS_D1\VIDEO_TS\Matrix Revolutions_1.avi
Total Encoding Time: 2 hours, 12 minutes, 57 seconds.

That was done using DivX 5.1.1 with GMC and Bidirectional Encoding. The total filesize created was 1.3Gb. Virtualdub was using default performance settings.

Creamy Goodness

thanks mutant that works brilliantly cos with the avi splitter col showed me i could never get it just right (credits from previous episode ending up at start of another episode)

vishal

unklerosco wrote:

Im using Gknot n i cant see these options... I plan to encode Pitch Black ltr, Let me know how to change the settings n i'll post the results

Start up gknot, go to options tab, where is says first pass under xvid, it's all there. make sure the settings you change are the exact same for the second pass, otherwise it will screw up your encode.

unklerosco

Wich version of Gknot r using??? Theres only the Advanced options tab n its got none of the settings u mention. Im using 1.52