b*ttorrent speed cr*ppy

JB123

Hi guys been trying 4 a while to get good speeds.Im on a netopia caymen (eircom)and iv opened the ports needed .Some times i get 55k mostly its 7k.Can somebody give me the exact settings 4 this router these are the settings im using to create the pinhole in nat.

Protocol Select tcp

External Port Start 6881

External Port End 6999

Internal IP Address 192.168.1.0

Internal Port 6881
Tanx guys

JB123

If it makes any difference im using Azureus.

Hellrazer

JB123 wrote:

If it makes any difference im using Azureus.

I had the same problem--Im on Eircom with the Netopia.I downloaded Burst bittorrent client and the speeds got much better.You dont actually have to configure the cayman.By default all ports are open.
Richie

JB123

Hellrazer wrote:

I had the same problem--Im on Eircom with the Netopia.I downloaded Burst bittorrent client and the speeds got much better.You dont actually have to configure the cayman.By default all ports are open.
Richie

Have burst running now still only getting 8k have tried loads of clients.Damn it help needed plz!!!

KdjaCL

How many seeds on the files you getting?
Have you caped your upload ? More you upload the faster it gets.

kdjac

Stark

Limit your upload speed so it doesn't saturate things. Limit it to 12KB/s if you've 512/128 DSL.

fragile

How many seeds/peers are available for the torrent you are downloading? have you tried torrents from different sources? it is always possible that you are downloading from a source that has limited bandwidth available!
Try a torrent that you know will be extremely popular (> 1000 seeds) and see if you can get higher download speeds..

tuxy

Hellrazer wrote:

I had the same problem--Im on Eircom with the Netopia.I downloaded Burst bittorrent client and the speeds got much better.You dont actually have to configure the cayman.By default all ports are open.
Richie

on mine they were closed and i had to open pinholes

JB123

k im on a download i see 9 seeds and 6 peers im getting 5k:(

fragile

JB123 wrote:

k im on a download i see 9 seeds and 6 peers im getting 5k:(

9 seeds isn't very much, bittorrent speed is usually proportional to the number of live seeds available. I presume whatever you are downloading isn't in very high demand, so you won't really get any of the benefits of distributed downloading that bittorrent offers

JB123

fragile wrote:

9 seeds isn't very much, bittorrent speed is usually proportional to the number of live seeds available. I presume whatever you are downloading isn't in very high demand, so you won't really get any of the benefits of distributed downloading that bittorrent offers

Im downloading now seeing 25 seeds 84 peers im still only getting 10k.I need to know if these settings are right to create a pinhole in nat for bittorrent.

Protocol Select tcp

External Port Start 6881

External Port End 6999

Internal IP Address 192.168.1.0

Internal Port 6881
Tanx guys

tomk

JB123 wrote:

Internal IP Address 192.168.1.0

Is this a typo? 192.168.1.0 is a network address, not a client address. You need to specify the IP address of the PC running bittorrent.

gsand

yep-the 192 address wont work

but you dont need that

bear in mind it can take up to an hour-sometimes longer if you are on a router to get up to max speed available

zAbbo

login to netopia > advanced > software hosting > enable random application

use that applications port number for BT, eh

TFTP = :69

Force BT to listen on port 69

Chalk

like tomk said the 192.168.1.0 address is wrong
your forwarding ports to nowhere lol
on the netopia set it to 192.168.1.1 if your using ethernet or 192.168.1.2 if your on the usb port
i think thats the way it does it anyway o_0
run ipconfig to find out iwhich one your on anyway
thats where you going wrong i would think

//// edit
also noticed your forwarding a range of ports
azureus by default uses one port - 6881
so no need to forward the entire range

JB123

Firstly tanx v much 2 all who replied . Am trying these settings 4 now as im changing clients every few days trying 2 find one so ill leave the range of ports open.Im on the usb by the way.Ill give these settings a go.

Pinhole Entry

Protocol Select-tcp
External Port Start -6881
External Port End -6999
Internal IP Address -192.168.1.2
Internal Port-6881
Ill give this a try and post again in a few hours.
Cheers

JB123

K i think its fixed now gettin greenlight and 20k-50k id say ill do better on more popular downloads. Tanx again guys

rabbitinlights

Im having problems opening ports on my modem,
Its an E-Tech 4 Port model and it looks like this:


Ive tried opening ports using the "virtual server" page on the modem setup, but im still getting a yellow light, ive used bit tornado, Azureus and still nothing, the manual i got was in german so im really winging it.

Anyone have this modem or know how to open them, it really is a crap modem and ive tried loads of things........

Sean

vibe666

hate to be dragging up old posts, but it's here, so i didn't want to start a new one.

i have a zyxel prestige 600 on iolbb, and i'm getting similar problems. not getting a green light at all on my torrents, only yellow, and speed is very slow. i know i must have spomething set wrong, but i don't know what.

everything is set at the defaults. do i need to open ports on the zyxel or change settings in bit torrent?

using bit tornado btw.

thanks.

Raskolnikov

vibe666 wrote:

hate to be dragging up old posts, but it's here, so i didn't want to start a new one.

i have a zyxel prestige 600 on iolbb, and i'm getting similar problems. not getting a green light at all on my torrents, only yellow, and speed is very slow. i know i must have spomething set wrong, but i don't know what.

everything is set at the defaults. do i need to open ports on the zyxel or change settings in bit torrent?

using bit tornado btw.

thanks.

I've had the same problem, here's how I fixed it.

1. Go to http://192.168.1.1/
2. Click on NAT.
3. Ensure SUA Only is selected, click on edit.
4. Enter in your IP and the port number of the program.
5. Click Save, then Apply and log out.
6. With any luck, you should be in business.

vibe666

you're a geezer you are.

thanks, works a treat now, I have a green light as i type this.

thanks again.

Dr. Loon

Raskolnikov wrote:

I've had the same problem, here's how I fixed it.

1. Go to http://192.168.1.1/
2. Click on NAT.
3. Ensure SUA Only is selected, click on edit.
4. Enter in your IP and the port number of the program.
5. Click Save, then Apply and log out.
6. With any luck, you should be in business.

Anyone anymore ideas here. I'm having the same problems. I'm gettin really píssed off with this now!

gre_soul

Try this site HERE it should help me thinks!

zAbbo

bazH wrote:

login to netopia > advanced > software hosting > enable random application

use that applications port number for BT, eh

TFTP = :69

Force BT to listen on port 69

do it

Moriarty

Moved to nets/comms.

Dr. Loon

gre_soul wrote:

Try this site HERE it should help me thinks!

That site doesn't appear to be working anymore. I'm still getting really slow speeds. Same setup as vibe666. I've gone through the port forwarding, and I'm now getting a green light on one of my torrents anyway, but still dog slow d/l speeds.

If anyone has anymore suggestions I'd appreciate it.

gre_soul

well it works for me anyway! here is som of the info on it:

Option 1. The tracker for the file you sre trying to download is down. If this is the case, try again later, Odds are it will be resolved shortly.

Option 2 is less palatable, It may indicate that your net connection doesn't allow arbitrary outgoing connections which is needed for BitTorrent to work properly. This could be caused by 2 things.

BitTorrent NAT/Router problems

You need to forward your ports if you have NAT in order to get optimal speeds. This is one of the most common issues people fail to configure when they use BitTorrent. To Find out if you have a NAT issue go here (http://www.u.arizona.edu/~trw/games/nat_or_not.php).

If the above site implies you are using NAT (It would appear that your machine does use NAT msg) , you will need to resolve this by forwarding ports. BitTorrent default use are ports in the range of 6881-6899. (TCP ports) The client starts at the first port in the range(6881) and sequentially tries higher ports until it can find one to which it can bind. So you only need to open as many ports as simultaneous BitTorrent clients you would ever have open.
If you have one of these broadband router/NAT devices (such as the Linksys BEFSR41, D-Link DI-701/704, Netgear RT311, SMC Barricade, 3Com Home Ethernet Gateway, etc.) you will usually need to enter the web configuration of the device. If you're not sure, try http://192.168.1.1 or sometimes http://192.168.0.1.

http://192.168.1.1 (Asus, Draytek, Linksys, Zyxel, Cisco,WooWeb-Pro)

http://192.168.2.1 (Belkin,SMC (some browsers need :88 added))

http://192.168.0.1 (DLink, NetGear,Nexland)

If you can't figure it out, try the manual for the device -- they are often on the manufacturer's web site in PDF form

goto this for more help: http://forums.furthurnet.org/viewtopic.php?t=1541

it should work

Dr. Loon

gre_soul wrote:

well it works for me anyway! here is som of the info on it:




goto this for more help: http://forums.furthurnet.org/viewtopic.php?t=1541

it should work

Sorry. I actually meant the "nat or not" page which is linked on that page isn't working. I really don't know. I've been trawling the web looking for answers on this. As far as I can see my ports are forwarded correctly, but still bad d/l speeds. Maybe it's number of seeds or something.

samtheman

Ok my problem is when i forward ports they get stealth but when they are not their closed but no matter what i get a yellow light what could be the problem
I'm using zyxel p623-t1

SlayerIRL

I'm on IOLBB+ and for the last few weeks I just can't get decent dl speeds. I've tried everything, different clients, changed from default ports, used different settings EVERYTHING I could do I have done. Clients are showing green lights and connection checkers (http://www.btfaq.com/natcheck + http://bittornado.com/connection-checker.torrent) tell me everything is fine but DL speeds are usually between 8-20, they might spike to 30-40 then they will go back to 8-20 then spike again. Normal downloads seem to be ok but they still aren't maxing out, and browsing is terrible, its worse than it was before the upgrade. I read in other threads eircom have been fukking around with throttling and anti p2p stuff would this affect IOL too since it's just eircom's service resold? Has anybody got any suggestions on how to improve my speed. I'm using a netgear DG834 with the latest beta firmware and sygate.

darraghrogan

SlayerIRL wrote:

I'm on IOLBB+ and for the last few weeks I just can't get decent dl speeds. I've tried everything, different clients, changed from default ports, used different settings EVERYTHING I could do I have done. Clients are showing green lights and connection checkers (http://www.btfaq.com/natcheck + http://bittornado.com/connection-checker.torrent) tell me everything is fine but DL speeds are usually between 8-20, they might spike to 30-40 then they will go back to 8-20 then spike again. Normal downloads seem to be ok but they still aren't maxing out, and browsing is terrible, its worse than it was before the upgrade. I read in other threads eircom have been fukking around with throttling and anti p2p stuff would this affect IOL too since it's just eircom's service resold? Has anybody got any suggestions on how to improve my speed. I'm using a netgear DG834 with the latest beta firmware and sygate.

I'll add my voice to this as well IOL BB not going above 40kb - I'm even trying to dl what I would imagine would be common files: ie 20 seeds in 47 peers.

Maybe changing to bt 4.0.1 is to blame?

Darragh

SlayerIRL

The files I want are very common too. I've tried azureus,bittornado,bitlord and others and still the same crap speeds. The problem has to be on IOL or €ircons end.

BigO

Ok i'm pretty good with pc's (doing comp sci ) and have tried all the usual stuff to get BT working:

Port Forwading, (I get a green smiley) Changed port as well, A different Client, A diffrent tracker, various upload configs, etc.

Now i'm trying to download an extremely popular (*legal) torrent from filerush.com as a test, and i can't get speed over 25-30 the speed usually creeps at under ten then randomly jumps to over 20 then straight back down this happens me with all torrents and trackers , I'm yet to see anywhere near the 100kb/s+ mark i'd expect with, well i'd probly be happy with 50kb/s.
I'm on eircom home plus.
I first tought it was the upload thing but after trying nearly every possible setting It's safe to say its not that.
All the ports are grand and there is no firewall active.
I have a linksys wrt54g hooked up to the netopia and its seems to work fine for all other p2p, I've even followed other guides for the linksys box and bitttorent of the web but all have been fruitless.

If anyone has any suggestions at all let me know, (and don't say reinstall XP! cause i did that for other reasons and it didn't help )

Bodan

There seems to be a few of you with this problem , so i will chip in with my piece of advice . Im using Bittornado on iol with a sygate firewall

First thing to do is setup your broadband router for port forwarding on ports 6881 - 6999 . Then in Bittornado , click prefs and change your port range from 6881 - 6999 .

Now all that needs to be done is to setup your firewall . Theres so many of them i cant go through . So go here Bittornado's forums and go into the fixing firewalls section . You should find yours in there and how to set it up properly .

Lastly if you got WinXP with service pack 2 apparently it limits the amount of concurrent connections you can have at any time . It has affected alot of p2p software badly , it might be worth a look for the patch if the above does not work for you.

SlayerIRL

My firewalls (hardware + software) are setup properly. My bittorrent clients are setup properly, Trackers are working properly, status lights are green and connection checkers tell me everything is fine. The problem must be on the isp's end. I know it's not affecting everyone but maybe they only have this anti-p2p crap active on certain exchanges? I might e-mail IOL tomorrow and ask them wtf are they doing. I pay for a 2meg connection so I should be able to use it how I please. Bittorrent can be used legally so they really have no right to stop us from using it, and if you think their not all using it themselves think again. I suggest everyone having problems e-mail them and post their reply's up here.

oscarBravo

Bodan wrote:

First thing to do is setup your broadband router for port forwarding on ports 6881 - 6999.

119 forwarded ports?? What civilised application uses 119 ports?

radiospan

I don't know if this has been mentioned before, but DON'T upload at your maximum connection speed.

If you have a 128kbps upload like most of us, then uploading at the maximum 12kB/sec will adversely affect your download speed. I usually set my upload speed to somewhere between 7 and 9kB/sec.

oscarBravo

SlayerIRL wrote:

I pay for a 2meg connection so I should be able to use it how I please. Bittorrent can be used legally so they really have no right to stop us from using it

They own the network. You pay them to let you use their network. Seems to me they have every right to decide how you use it.

SlayerIRL

They own the network. You pay them to let you use their network. Seems to me they have every right to decide how you use it.

I pay for a 2meg connection and I can't dl at 2 mb, so I won't be paying them for too much longer.

Bodan

oscarBravo wrote:

119 forwarded ports?? What civilised application uses 119 ports?

There the recommended default bit torrent ports .

aidan_walsh

SlayerIRL wrote:

I pay for a 2meg connection and I can't dl at 2 mb, so I won't be paying them for too much longer.

The stated maximum possible is NEVER the actual throughput, for a number of reasons.

SlayerIRL

The stated maximum possible is NEVER the actual throughput, for a number of reasons.

I know that. Normal http/ftp downloads are fine, but bittorrent dl speeds are worse than I had on 512k because eircom or IOL are throttling them.

oscarBravo

SlayerIRL wrote:

I pay for a 2meg connection

Got a leased line, have you?

SlayerIRL wrote:

and I can't dl at 2 mb, so I won't be paying them for too much longer.

That's your prerogative.

Bodan wrote:

There the recommended default bit torrent ports .

Yeah, I gathered that, but what the hell does it want with 119 incoming ports? The entire world's email shuttles cheerfully to and fro on port 25 alone, not to mention all the http traffic on port 80.

119 ports??

And people wonder why I'm down on P2P?

nadir

doodle_sketch wrote:

The stated maximum possible is NEVER the actual throughput, for a number of reasons.

I max my connection constantly, I was wondering how you came to the above conclusion? cause my ntop logs eem to think otherwise.

OscarBravo wrote:

Yeah, I gathered that, but what the hell does it want with 119 incoming ports? The entire world's email shuttles cheerfully to and fro on port 25 alone, not to mention all the http traffic on port 80.

Email is nice and co-ordinated, leeching shiloads of stuff from hundreds of people at the same time isn't.
Emails arnt fragmented into thousands of pieces and sent separately from different peers, torrents are.
I could easily have 10 torrents running at the same time, each making on average 20 connections, not to mention the torrents ran by my flatemate whose routing through my machine.
torrents work really really well, thats all that matters.

oscarBravo

nadir wrote:

Email is nice and co-ordinated, leeching shiloads of stuff from hundreds of people at the same time isn't.
Emails arnt fragmented into thousands of pieces and sent separately from different peers, torrents are.
I could easily have 10 torrents running at the same time, each making on average 20 connections, not to mention the torrents ran by my flatemate whose routing through my machine.

No offence, but that sounds like a handwaving layman's explanation than anything grounded in technical reality.

Take web browsing, for example. A web page can be fragmented into hundreds of pieces and sent separately from several different peers. I could easily have 10 web pages loading, each making several different connections, not to mention the web pages being browsed by the other machines on my home network.

Granted, there's a slight difference of scale, but it all runs on port 80. Not only that, but all the web browsers of all the PCs on our community network run on port 80, all through one firewall.

What is it about P2P that requires a swathe of ports to be opened?

nadir wrote:

torrents work really really well, thats all that matters.

It may be all that matters to you, but keeping a network running is what matters to a network administrator. As a result, torrents don't work at all on my network.

Hecate

What is it about P2P that requires a swathe of ports to be opened?

This is obvious - It would be bugger all use if it didn't.

If a P2P protocol used the same port, always, no matter how it was implemented. Then ISPs would just throttle traffic on that port or block it outright.

oscarBravo

Hecate wrote:

This is obvious - It would be bugger all use if it didn't.

If a P2P protocol used the same port, always, no matter how it was implemented. Then ISPs would just throttle traffic on that port or block it outright.

Right, so it uses a wide range of ports to make it difficult for the owner of the network to control how that network is used?

There's a point that's being missed here. If a protocol is designed to rape and pillage a network, it will be controlled. If that can't be done by identifying ports - the way all well-behaved protocols have worked since the birth of TCP/IP - it will be done using packet inspection tools like IPP2P.

Vadrefjorde

********* does not allow clients to use ports commonly associated with p2p protocols. The reason for this is that it is a common practice for ISPs to throttle those ports (that is, limit the bandwidth, hence the speed).

The blocked ports list include, but is not neccessarily limited to, the following:

Direct Connect 411 - 413
Kazaa 1214
eDonkey 4662
Gnutella 6346 - 6347
WinMX 6699
BitTorrent 6881 - 6889

In order to use use our tracker you must configure your client to use any port range that does not contain those ports (a range within the region 49152 through 65535 is preferable, cf. IANA). Notice that some clients, like Azureus 2.0.7.0 or higher, use a single port for all torrents, while most others use one port per open torrent. The size of the range you choose should take this into account (typically less than 10 ports wide. There is no benefit whatsoever in choosing a wide range, and there are possible security implications).

These ports are used for connections between peers, not client to tracker. Therefore this change will not interfere with your ability to use other trackers (in fact it should increase your speed with torrents from any tracker, not just ours). Your client will also still be able to connect to peers that are using the standard ports. If your client does not allow custom ports to be used, you will have to switch to one that does

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OscarBravo is correct in what he's saying, having 119 ports open is pointless as can be seen from above.
SlayerIRL, before you go complaining to IOL maybe you'd like to try the following;
1. Install ABC
2. Check if you've got service pack 2 installed. If you do then you'll need to apply the event ID 4226 patch. (google it)
3. Use port settings as recommended above.
4. Double check your firewall settings are correct.
5. Try a few torrents from various sources/trackers.
Some trackers are configured to recognise your upload speed and throttle you accordingly.

SlayerIRL

Vadrefjorde thanks for the suggestions. I've double/triple/quad... Basically I've checked everything a gazillion times. I haven't tried yabc for a while though so I might try that again. Actually I'm downloading something at the moment and although it kept spiking at the start its not going below 80 and it's doing 127 at the moment so I'm happy again. Looks like it's finally back to normal. I didn't change any settings either. Anyone else getting better speeds all of a sudden?

Anarchist

I just lowered up upload and my downloads were much faster, does fck up the ratios though

SwampThing

Could someone point me to a 'popular' torrent - anything really - no porn. I'm just not convinced I'm ruing at 100% here and I'd like to see what spped it downloads at.

I've made the NAT changes described earlier, but you know that niggling feeling all is not well? Well I have it. Thanks.