Revenge of the Sith.

Roller Toaster

Not a lot on this page but well, there you go. Star Wars Episode 3 will be called Revenge of the Sith which is mainly a nod to Episode 6's original title of Revenge of the Jedi I guess.

http://www.starwars.com/episode-iii/bts/production/news20040724.html

starwars.com is pleased to announce that Star Wars: Episode III Revenge of the Sith is the full title of the next Star Wars film, scheduled for release on May 19, 2005.
The Sith are masters of the dark side of the Force and the sworn enemies of the Jedi. They were all but exterminated by the Jedi a thousand years ago, but the evil order continued in secrecy. They operated quietly, behind the scenes, acting in pairs - a Master and an Apprentice - patiently biding their time before they could take over the galaxy. In Episode III, they'll finally exact their revenge on the Jedi.

The title was publicly revealed today in a special presentation to a packed audience of Star Wars fans at Comic-Con International in San Diego, California. "For some time now, the naming of a new Star Wars movie has taken on some special meaning among core fans, who love to take part in guessing games before a title is announced, and then engage in debate once it is," said Steve Sansweet, Director of Content Management and Head of Fan Relations for Lucasfilm. "Let the debates begin."

The title wasn't the only surprise for those in attendance at the presentation. Click here for news about even more Star Wars DVDs in 2004 and 2005, surprise celebrity guests, new planets in Episode III, and more...

About Episode III
After three long years of relentless fighting, the Clone Wars are nearly at an end. The Jedi Council dispatches Obi-Wan Kenobi to bring General Grievous, the deadly leader of the Separatist droid army, to justice. Meanwhile, back on Coruscant, Chancellor Palpatine has grown in power. His sweeping political changes transform the war-weary Republic into the mighty Galactic Empire. To his closest ally, Anakin Skywalker, he reveals the true nature of power and the promised secrets of the Force in an attempt to lure him to the dark side.

rivers

thanks for the news, that title is better than attack of the clones anyway....

monkeyfudge

Yep.. I'm pretty happy with that title... it ties in nicely with the fact that 'Return of the Jedi' was originally 'Revenge of the Jedi', but then Lucas felt that Revenge wasn't a Jedi concept and changed it... but revenge is most certainly a Sith concept...

No doubt it's going to be an absolutely horrible film.. but I'm sure I'll still go... just to finally see the franchise put out of it's misery...

Caesar_Bojangle

No doubt it's going to be an absolutely horrible film.. but I'm sure I'll still go... just to finally see the franchise put out of it's misery...

Lucas is trying to make a star wars tv series

monkeyfudge

Will it be as good as those Ewok films?

oh boy.. when is Caravan of Courage coming out on DVD?

flogen

yeah, a huge improvement on the phantom menace and attack of the clones, I hold hope for this film, just because it has to be much darker (and so the studid scenes from 1 and 2 cant be repeated, such as the running through meadows and kissings, jar jar binks etc etc.. I know he is in it tho).

Saying that, I wont expect anything amazing.... just a bit better than the last 2

flogen

Buck Owens

I'm looking forward to it, Attack of the clones was a massive improvement on the phantom menance(less jar Jar but 'little annie' irrated me more than him IMO).

And by the sound of things it's going to be darker and have more action. Action wise the prequels were class 3 way lightsaber battle, Yoda's lightsaber fight,podrace etc.

Kain

Originally posted by Caesar_Bojangle
Lucas is trying to make a star wars tv series

They've already made 2 animated series. The whole thing takes place during the clone wars and tells the stories of who did what during the whole thing. It was on Toonami a while ago but it's gone now, never bothered to watch it when i was at home.

As for the new film, i'm just hoping that this one is better then episode 2 which was a total pile of cack, apart from the clone battle at the end. But if the thing has a darker theme then it should be good.

mayordenis

ill probably get almighty abuse for this but i even like the new ones sure there not a scratch on the oldies but its the universe that still keeps them brilliant regardless. definately llokin forward to watchin all 6 in a row

ixoy

I'll see it because I've the Unlimited Card and it'll only cost me my time. I'm sure it'll be better than the weak "Attack of the Clones" or the dire "Phantom Menace" anyway. If nothing else, it'll probably give me reason to spit and mutter at George Lucas for creating the most over-rated franchise of all time

Fuhrio

its a good title, as u all say, a lot better then the phantom menace and attack of the clones, i hope they go back to a more old school style of star wars film.

*crosses fingers*

Bacchus

And what, pray tell is "a more old school style of star wars film"? Okay, I havn't enjoyed the prequels as much as the originals but then I remember, I was somewhere between 6 and 10 years old when I first saw them. The "magic" that people always say that the prequels are missing might just be our own age and world wearyness. When we first saw Star Wars it was the greatest thing on Earth, but a lot of that could be due to the fact that we were younger (in a lot of cases kids) and more easily awe struck. Any of my little cousins that saw the prequels loved it. They didn't obsess over the crappy dialogue or their relative merits to the originals. That's what WE do and when we do this we no longer see what the movie is.... pure childish fantasy with heros with lightsabers, space battles, cool worlds and creatures and basically a fight between good and evil. It's fun. Okay as a adult now it's harder to accept the poor acting and script but imagine you're as old now as you were when you first saw "A New Hope". You watch "Phantom Menace" for the first time. It's cool, you've got lightsabers and alien creatures, big space battles and an easily digestible plot that a 4 year old could follow. What's so radically different about "Phantom Menace" that you can say it's a disgrace to the original trilogy (okay, it doesn't have Han Solo or Millenium Falcon but it'd be asking a bit much to have them in the prequels). These prequels are made in the same mould as the originals just the characters you loved from the originals aren't there (bar a few). The special effects have been seriously jazzed up but I cannot see how you can complain about that. I want 21st Century CG FX to present a big battle, I don't want them shot using the same technology as used for the originals. Anyway my point is this.....
STOP ****ING COMPLAINING it's a movie!!

btw just isn't really directed at anyone here, I just generally hate how people complain about how the new episodes are crap and George Lucas raped my childhood etc. etc.

Oh yeah.. Good name for Ep. III

Roller Toaster

Originally posted by Bacchus
RANT

Exactly what he said, I don't think theres anything Lucas could have done that people would actually like, there was just no way he could live up to peoples' expectations. You might say well then fine he shouldn't have made them but they're enjoyable in their own right and if you don't like them they're insular enough not to affect 4-6 and the expanded universe stuff that follows on from 4-6. Even if you really really hate them at the very least they've revived interest in the old films (just look at the games that have/are coming out based on 4-6 off the back of 1-3) and without them I doubt we would have had Knights Of The Old Republic so how can anyone really begrudge them that much?

RE*AC*TOR

Originally posted by mayordenis
ill probably get almighty abuse for this but i even like the new ones sure there not a scratch on the oldies but its the universe that still keeps them brilliant regardless. definately llokin forward to watchin all 6 in a row

You sir are a twat!


Episode 2 was absolutely appaulling!

fitz

Lucas relying on CG has marred the prequels.

Sets should have been built, not CG.
The originals were industrial, and while some of the compositing has become quite dated, it looks more real in a lot of ways than the 'cartoony' look of the prequels.

It's that cartooniness and Lucas' inability to direct a film that have made them not live up to their potential.

The prequels could have been superb.

They're not.

ObeyGiant

Anyone else SICK TO THEIR FUCKING TEETH of this argument?

Batbat

Originally posted by fitz
Lucas relying on CG has marred the prequels.

Sets should have been built, not CG.
The originals were industrial, and while some of the compositing has become quite dated, it looks more real in a lot of ways than the 'cartoony' look of the prequels.

It's that cartooniness and Lucas' inability to direct a film that have made them not live up to their potential.

The prequels could have been superb.

They're not.

Agreed, Lucas in a clown

Theboinkmaster

Agreed with fitz - spot on

although the effects do look a little dated see the ROTJ pics up at milleniumfalcon.com from the DVD and theyve been cleaned up very well - the film now looks like it was filmed only last year (except for the haircuts )

Hecate

Altogether now....

Worst...Episode....EVER!

smoke.me.a.kipper

Originally posted by Theboinkmaster
(except for the haircuts )

been wondering about this. will they be going to start heading towards more 70's haircuts in episode3??

DMT

If you think about it, the first three (ANH, TESB, ROTJ) were fairly brutal too....

User45701

I remember YEARS ago i read the plots for episode 1 2 3 7 8 9
1+2 where a let down but i always thought that 3 sounded the best but there was so much detail inn the plot i read that it sounded like they would need another 3 movies (6+hours) to tell the story they are trying to cram into this movie.

I am willing to bet they will leave out allot of good bits that where in the plot i read i dont see them being able to fit it all into 2 hours.

I still have high hopes for this movie. But they need good actors like joe kucan to play bad guys cause he is a example of a great person to play the "baddie".

evad_lhorg

If people had've seen the darth maul fight sequence in a new hopw back i the 70's it would be considered the greatest thing ever. times are changing and what people found exciting or scary back then is boring and stupid these days. I dont think the new star wars films are as bad as theyre made out to be but the people just wouldnt have accepted them no matter what. the only thing I can complain about is jar jar. that and the fact that the technology in episode one is way ahead of the technology in episode 4 - 6.

User45701

Ye true actually. There was no way they could live up to it tho.


What tech in ep1 is better than 4-6?
also remember its only about ?20? years ahead of 4-6 and allot of stuff would have been destroyed in the clone wars and the battles following the rise of theempire
also the rebels didnt have that much advanced tech.

spooiirt!!

Actually the rebels had much better tech than the empire.Come on, X-wings and B-wings were far superior to Ties and Tie ints. Mon Calamari Cruisers were as good as Star Destroyers. The Rebels just didnt have the numbers the Empire had.
Id say if you showed a new Star Wars films to someone with no interest in the series , and then showed them A New Hope, they wouldnt notice the difference. My point is that there isnt much difference between them, other than the fact that we all love the old ones.


*that and jar jar
*and "lil annie" (hate that little bstard)


Go rebels!


www.dublinrebels.com

User45701

spooiirt!! wrote:

Go rebels!

Am i the only 1 that wants the empire to win?

NeoSlicerZ

The Mon Cal cruisers probably matched the ISDs and definately matched the VSDs in firepower but their shielding wasn't as good.

User45701

I Thought that rebel ships matched imperial ships perfectley
except in fighters where imperial ships had better spped and manovebality but rebel ships had better shields

but when it came to mon calameris vs ISD i thought that they where a perfect match but just that imperials had a much larger fleet

steveland?

It's a better name than Attack of the Clones alright but they misspelt the last word of the title :S

Yeh it doesn't look the mae west but it should HOPEFULLY be better than the other two.

Clones was forgivable if you blocked out of your mind that it was a Star Wars movie and just pretended it was any old film.

Phantom Menace was unforgivable though. I mean MIDICHLORINES for christs sake...

banquo

I thought the Phantom menace was much better than Empire, but not A New Hope.

NeoSlicerZ

ahh user, X-Wings were more manuverable than Tie Fighters and just about as fast, but less manuverable and slower than the interceptors. The mon cal cruisers match ISDs in firepower BUT their shields are not as good. Why else would Ackbar be reluctant to bring the rebel fleet to point blank range with ISDs.

Slutmonkey57b

The prequels are better acted, better scripted, and more convincing on the sp effects than the "originals". And if Lucas is such a crap director, how come the "old" films were so great, eh? Answer: he was always crap, the originals were some of the worst films ever made, and the prequels are not much better. Get over it.
Matrix: Revolutions looks like a masterpiece next to any SW film.

ObeyGiant

Controversial!

(ps - anyone else noticed that there's hardly a Star Wars thread on the Films board that doesn't have Slutmonkey57b replying with "Star Wars is shit"? That's some dedicated trolling, I think our boy deserves some recognition)

evad_lhorg

Slutmonkey57b wrote:

The prequels are better acted, better scripted, and more convincing on the sp effects than the "originals". And if Lucas is such a crap director, how come the "old" films were so great, eh? Answer: he was always crap, the originals were some of the worst films ever made, and the prequels are not much better. Get over it.
Matrix: Revolutions looks like a masterpiece next to any SW film.

better acted? my go they could've done much better with the kid to play anakin. jake lloyd was terrible. look at the kids in harry potter or whatever. they are good. im not sayin they would be good for the part just they were good.

Pugsley

The effects in the prequels are way over the top and generally look silly, the effects in the origionals look more 'real' imo, particularly places like Jabba's Palace, nothing there stood out as looking especially fake (except the origional singer doll, she did look poo).It was rough, and unpolished, but this is not meant to be a pretty polished universe, a lot of these places are just held up by a thread, having a really pretty polished place just wouldnt suit. (and the millenium falcon looked far more like a real ship than that chromo nonsense ship that Amadala had)

As for acting, the only charecter IMO that I dont feel like hitting in the prequels are Obi-wan, Qui-gon, and the main jedi council, most of the other acting is diabolical, Boba Fett was far cooler than Jango was by a mile. As for the origionals, yea Luke was pants, but still far better than Anakin, Leia was far better acted than Amadala, and Chewy was also far superior to that muppet known as Jar Jar binks.

Slutmonkey57b

At least Anakin was enough of a man to actually fight people. Luke was such a useless pussy he had to get his DAD to kill the emperor for him.
Oh, the force is strong in me, I'm the last great hope of humankind! Daddy the nasty man won't let me beat him up, help daddy. I'm such a hero.

I'm not saying the acting in the prequels was good either - just that it was better than the originals. And ObeyGiant has a point - I suppose having me pop up in a thread is a bit like the inverse of what a cinephile experiences having star wars pop up in a list of best films of the century.

For star wars fans, what I mean by that is that the cinephile knows, deep deep down in their bones, that describing a star wars film as good, never mind the use of the word "best" is just plain wrong. While having me pop up in a thread is a reminder to star wars fans that in fact, lucas is a hack, luke was a wuss, and the films are terrible dross.

ObeyGiant

I'm impressed with the way you tried to make it look like you were actually just bringing the Star Wars fanboys back to reality, instead of just trolling. You almost pulled it off too. You would have had me convinced if it wasn't for the "Luke was a wuss" point - a statement clearly designed to get the fanboys' backs up.

Hell, you might have had better luck with the force-as-gay-allegory thing:
The Force is a reference to the force one requires to achieve anal penetration. "Let go, Luke" is clearly a reference to relaxing the muscles to allow anal penetration.
No pilot looks forward to launching his torpedoes against the exhaust port or the "chute". Luke can't wait to send his torpedo up the chute. If you doubt the chute is the anus then recall that the exhaust port is "right below the main port" (i.e., the vagina).

It would have been way funnier too.

Basq

A couple of new pics from Episode III: ROTS..

http://www.idontfear.com/

BolBill

Pugsley wrote:

The effects in the prequels are way over the top and generally look silly, the effects in the origionals look more 'real' imo, particularly places like Jabba's Palace, nothing there stood out as looking especially fake (except the origional singer doll, she did look poo).It was rough, and unpolished, but this is not meant to be a pretty polished universe, a lot of these places are just held up by a thread, having a really pretty polished place just wouldnt suit. (and the millenium falcon looked far more like a real ship than that chromo nonsense ship that Amadala had)

As for acting, the only charecter IMO that I dont feel like hitting in the prequels are Obi-wan, Qui-gon, and the main jedi council, most of the other acting is diabolical, Boba Fett was far cooler than Jango was by a mile. As for the origionals, yea Luke was pants, but still far better than Anakin, Leia was far better acted than Amadala, and Chewy was also far superior to that muppet known as Jar Jar binks.

Yeah I agree but isn't it a pity that Bobba Fett went out like a bitch ????? and in the remake of A New Hope that Gudo was seen to shoot first ?????

CodeMonkey

Everyone has their own theary on why the new film sucks and the old ones didn't and here's mine having watched the special edition boxset for the original movies last week and no I am not a big fan of star wars.

The original star wars films had it's fair share of cheesy dialogues and bad acting but it didn't go OTT on the music and special effects. The fight screens for example worked a lot better in the original films. They were slow, old school western sword fights with light sabre and it worked very well. The new movies are using the the new hip, martial arts influenced fighting styles and emphasis too much on looking cool with different types of weapons. Not that they were bad but they just don't really belong. The action was too quick and too bloody loud, it was like watch a Michael Bay and Jerry Bruckheimer movie. And that's a big problem with the new movies, the pacing sucks. Just action action action and the slow bits aren't interesting or badly acted or had jar jar in it or annoying kid or too much stupid special effects. Consider the last 30mins of the Empire Strikes back. Imagine the reaction of everyone in the cinema when Han Solo got frozen, and then again when Luke lost hand...then again when Darth says, "Luke...I am your father". It was actually quite exciting stuff because of the story.

Crucifix

I must agree about the pacing. In Attack of the Clones it really seemed Obi Wan couldn't stay on the same planet for more than two ****ing minutes.

Otacon

This is by Kevin Smith [anyone who doesn't know who he is, should be shot!]

BEWARE SPOILERS!!!

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General Idea: It ROCKS!!!!

GL may have done it... a good prequel!

Goodshape

Don't really want to read the review, but does anyone know what Smith thought of the last two films?

on a related note, Epp. 1+2 were in fact so bad that they have been voted below the yet-to-be-seen Revenge of the Sith in Empire's Best Star Wars Film poll.

Rcuomo

didnt k smith do that phantom menace re edit that was around the net a few years ago cos he thought lucas version sucked?

The Bollox

there are some things I don't like about the 're-makes' of the originals. firstly I much prefered the old voice Boba Fett had, in the DVD's they changed it to fit Jango's, the old voice sounded more sinister.
I also have a serious beef with how Boba was killed off, I mean seriously, Boba was mot a big character, but he deserved a better death sequence than flying into the sail barge and getting eaten by Zarlak(sp?)
and also the CGI they put into the films ruins it! the new characters (case in point is in Jabba's Palace) look ****e and seriously out of place. I was personally hoping for an option on the DVD's to see the original films, without all the CGI bull****, but allas it was not to be

oh and I can't remember who said it, but Lucas didn't direct episodes V and VI, he did do IV tho

Goodshape

They changed Boba's voice?! Damn, didn't know that. Although in relation to his 'death' scene in RotJ, books released later reveal that he survived the pit AFAIK.

Also, IIRC, Lucas had the original prints of Epp's 4,5,6 destroyed because he's an absolute nob jockey. All that's left now is the bastardised 'special' editions.

(and you're right, Lucas didn't direct V or VI -- it was the credits at the end of the films that said it)

The Bollox

how could he survive the pit of Zarlak? I mean maybe because in the original films, all it was was a pit, but in the 'bastardised version' there is a monster that eats them, so possibly in the originals context, he could have used his jet-pack to fly out

Goodshape

Because he's a bad-ass-mother****er. Obviously.

The Bollox

yeah, Jango can't hold a candle to him.

oh man, I can't wait to see the bad mother****er, Mace Windu in action!

Pigman II

I think this film is going to be great ... and even if it isn't at least there'll be some fun roller-coaster sequences that should raise the bar for special effects.

Star Wars prequels are in an unfortunate situation where every new chapter has to not only be better than every other summer blockbuster, they also have to be than ESB ... and lets face it that's never gonna happen.

koneko

I concur. I'm really looking forward to this, it sounds like there's some serious ass-kickery and that's a-okay with me, chief.