Flamming

coughlanc

What do you think about people who solely flame? (flame, flamming = attempt to be destructive, insult or make false statements in an attempt to create an online row)

You may have noted that serious topics like : coming out, exploring your sexual orientation, lgbtq concerns proceed well and create useful informative threads of
decent material , but then someone will drop in 'flame' in an attempt to stir things up in an non productive sense (as in they did not care about where and when - as long as it has an impact).

What are your thoughts on this subject?

I am sure this thread will recieve the comments of a flammer or two......

Since this topic is about flamming - think everyone should get involved

Stark

This thread is best suited to Feedback forum. It's not an LGB issue.

moridin

http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame14.html

Sleipnir

A.) It's 'flaming' not 'flamming'
B.) Pointless poll.
C.) CeeBee.

swiss

I don't believe it. I really don't.

As anyone who reads these boards would know, the person who has recently attracted the most flaming is you. Hence starting up a thread dealing with the issue of flaming is inviting, nay, practically begging for comment about yourself. You yourself are aware of this when you say "I am sure this thread will recieve the comments of a flammer or two......". And you wonder why you get flamed so often??

Secondly, how is this thread relevant to this board. If there is an issue with flaming in any board, the usual procedure is to take it to the Feedback board. If you have an issue with moderation then feel free to take it to us or an admin, but starting up a thread like this serves no useful purpose as far as I can see.

Frankly, I would rather deal with this issue privately, but it is you (and others I might add) who seem intent to drag it out onto this board.

Since our requests to stop people bringing this irrelevant drama to this board has fallen on deaf ears, it's time for a final warning.

Let me be clear:
1) Anyone who starts a thread about coughlanc's posting will earn an immediate ban.

2) coughlanc: If you attempt to perpetuate this behaviour towards you by starting threads such as this, you will earn a ban.

3) Off topic postings or flames will be viewed very severely, and most likely will result in a ban for the next while.

I'm sorry to have to go to these measures. I don't want act as a nanny, but the bickering and bitching has got to stop. If you have a problem with a poster then the ignore feature is your friend. If you feel that it is something we (the moderators) should deal with, then feel free to bring it to our attention via PM.

This has gone far enough.
[edit] Was about to lock before Stark sent to Feedback. Looks like I need to be a bit faster [/edit]

amp

This thread is totally gh...

hmm...

Nevermind.

coughlanc

Hi Swiss,

Stark rightly moved this to feedback.
I was unaware thats what this section was for - but he moved it here and it is only
to discuss the topic.

Are you saying that we should move it elsewhere? Hold it >>>- just read last line of your post - did not see you were posting regarding the lgbt place and your right also - should not have been there.

However why not let people flame this list? its somewhere they can do it...
also some where other non flamers can say what they think also.

Better then flamming a serious thread.

C

Beruthiel

where is the option for
atari jaguar
or
none of the above

I would have voted for either there

mr_angry

Yeah. Flaming is an issue for the moderators of the board in quesion to deal with.

koneko

Like sands through the hourglass so are.....

THE DAYS OF OUR LIVES

Life isn't a soap opera, chill!

Stark

Flaming is an issue for the moderators of the board in quesion to deal with.

Yes, it's the moderator's job to deal with those "flaming queens"

swiss

Originally posted by coughlanc:

I was unaware thats what this section was for - but he moved it here and it is only
to discuss the topic.

I see. I can understand that you might not be familiar with most of the other boards on this site, but if you had read the rather noticable thread at the top of the LGB board stating "Charter - READ BEFORE POSTING" you may have noticed the following:

1) This board relates to gay/lesbian/bisexual issues. Everything else is OT (off topic), and will be moved/deleted as appropriate.

Furthurmore, later in that post I specifically mentioned how to deal with threads such as this:

If you have a problem with any of the moderation techniques used, please feel free to take it up via PM, or you can report it on the Admin board. We will not discuss it in any of the threads.

Note: The Admin board has since been renamed to Feedback. This change has now been reflected in the Charter.

Regardless of whether you were aware of the existence of this board or not, you should have realised that the LGB board was not an appropriate forum for this thread.

This in itself would hardly constitute a serious breach of conduct, but when you bemoan others for breaking rules and flaming you, it helps your case when you follow those posting guidelines yourself.

Originally posted by coughlanc:

However why not let people flame this list?

See the charter. In short flaming is bad because it leads to acrimony. Acrimony leads to fear. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate.... etc. We don't need to see threads that specifically encourage the practice. If your intention was to invite comments from those who have directed "flames" to you in the past, then posting the equivalent of "flame me here!" is a pretty poor way to go about it. For example, where are the flames to which you are referring in this thread? The only one I can see is amp, and I would characterise that as being more of a pisstake troll. He is also an equal opportunities flamer - he is not just having a go at you. (I love you AJ really! Call me!).

In short, I see this thread as attention seeking, precisely the charge that was levelled towards you in previous threads. I still don't know whether that was your intention or not, but I would like it to stop. I would also like to see the flaming that precipitated this thread to stop.
<melodrama>If it does not, then the banhammer of doom will emerge, and few will escape it's wrath. </melodrama>

smoke.me.a.kipper

Originally posted by Beruthiel
where is the option for
atari jaguar
or
none of the above

I would have voted for either there

atari jaguar

BuffyBot

Down with flamming!



Please don't flamm me for my useful contribution to this thread

Beruthiel

Originally posted by BuffyBot

Please don't flamm me for my useful contribution to this thread

as I've been known to say on occasion

if you have nothing relevant to say on the topic, please refrain from commenting at all mr. puffy

amp

The only one I can see is amp, and I would characterise that as being more of a pisstake troll. He is also an equal opportunities flamer - he is not just having a go at you. (I love you AJ really! Call me!).

Tart

Evil Phil

Originally posted by coughlanc
... sexual orientation, lgbtq concerns ...

Okay I get the LGB bit but what does the TQ stand for? Is it Transsexual and, um... Queer? It escapes me at the moment.

Stark

Can either be Queer or Questioning, think it's usually Queer unless there's a second Q there (you wouldn't believe how long those strings get in this PC age of ours). Some people identify themselves as queer instead of gay, lesbian or bisexual. Not sure exactly why.

CuLT

Originally posted by Stark
Some people identify themselves as queer instead of gay, lesbian or bisexual. Not sure exactly why.

That might be worth its own thread .

I think flaming is to just plain cause grief for the sake of it, I suppose pointless statements are called trolling, but I'm not too clear on that one.

Maybe since there's such a fine line between flaming and trolling 'flamming' would be a good alternative word for trolling .

BuffyBot

if you have nothing relevant to say on the topic, please refrain from commenting at all mr. puffy

Oooh, get you. You should have been posting on the threads in question with a handbag that big!

Evil Phil

I think it should be lgbtqdh, that would be much more accurate.

jesus_thats_gre

Harmless Flaming and Throlling should be ok.. Harmless?? Something not too offensive but sorta touches on a nerve., jokingly of course

Stark

I think flaming is to just plain cause grief for the sake of it, I suppose pointless statements are called trolling, but I'm not too clear on that one.

Maybe since there's such a fine line between flaming and trolling 'flamming' would be a good alternative word for trolling .

Trolling is posting statements in the hope of starting a flame war. Like coughlanc hoped to do with this thread.

coughlanc

Ahem .... I say Ahem ... i did not hope to start a flame war .. massive assumption I say .. cough cough .. ahem

Seriously - I did'nt just wanted to see what people thought - albeit in the wrong forum.....thats true!

As for T n Q in LGBTQ

T = Transgendered
Q = Questioning

This is the official stance to date (may change). Queer is being used more and more often by ppl like me and other community reps as it is a more comprehensive, embracing and empowering (to the community to use a term that was negative for so long).

There is or was U = Undecided ... it got dropped and replaced by Q..

Must seem mad to the outside world at times - but people for get were not all 'Gay' per say and thats why the title grows to highlight the diversity it represents...

Just like many heterosexuals dont like be called straights and this may not reflect their sexual practices etc

BuffyBot

Must seem mad to the outside world at times

And inside, and inside...

hostyle

Originally posted by coughlanc
This is the official stance to date (may change).

As if you actually get dates, you spanner.

Must seem mad to the outside world at times - but people for get were not all 'Gay' per say

Its "per se", you grammar dyspeptic.

O wait. Did you ask to be flamed? Or, um ... o right. Sorry

Victor

Originally posted by coughlanc
T = Transgendered

Ooo, I thought it was transexual, what with transgendered being more a "misdiagnosis" of gender rather than a sexuality issue as such.

Beruthiel

Originally posted by BuffyBot
Oooh, get you. You should have been posting on the threads in question with a handbag that big!

are you saying mine's bigger than yours?

uberwolf

the change to include Q in the USI set up was for Queer not questioning.



TBH

BuffyBot

Originally posted by Beruthiel
are you saying mine's bigger than yours?

Naturally!

DRakE

Wouldn't it get very boring without flaming?

Littletinyman, richindub2 and Sangre are already gone for it

coughlanc

It is mad for us insiders to see the ref: getting longer and longer...aswell

Someone said T = Transexual but dont forget Transvestites (think thats right) would then not be included .. commonly known as cross dressers ..who are generally straight people who dress in the atire of their opposite gender thus the title Transgendered

As for 'per se' .. thanks .. have been spelling it in correctly for yonks..

I think there should be a new title for straight people ..

SHNNI .. perhaps.. Swingers, Hedonists, Naturists, Naturalists, Incestuous people ..lol I know I know you could hay gay to all the above..lol

Sure incestuous .. is spelt wrong...lol mm pro hedonists

Victor

Originally posted by coughlanc
Naturalists

Is wildlife spotting a sexual activity... DANG!

CuLT

Originally posted by Victor
Is wildlife spotting a sexual activity... DANG!

Depends on how "wild" you are tbh.

The Muppet

Originally posted by jesus_thats_gre
Harmless Flaming and Throlling should be ok.. Harmless?? Something not too offensive but sorta touches on a nerve., jokingly of course

Do you mean something along the lines of Asus Make crap pc.s.;)

Not that I have ever done so I think Flaming and Trolling are present on every Bulletin Board and are actually part of the attraction .

jesus_thats_gre

Originally posted by The Muppet
Do you mean something along the lines of Asus Make crap pc.s.;)

Not that I have ever done so I think Flaming and Trolling are present on every Bulletin Board and are actually part of the attraction .

ya muppet

tuxy

well its offical flaming is worthwhile i hope you are happy with the result coughlanc

Crash

Damn homosexuals, why does everything have to be flaming with you guys??





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The Muppet

Originally posted by jesus_thats_gre
ya muppet

Jesus thats great that is , I ask a civil question and all I get in reply is a mouthful of personal abuse. Typical

Kold

Flaming makes boards worth reading.

billy the squid

Originally posted by Kold
Flaming makes boards worth reading.

agreed but for some reason it seems to be more entertaining on boards.ie than on any other website.

where else would a request to change a username get 173 responses

UnrealQueen

Originally posted by mr_angry
Yeah. Flaming is an issue for the moderators of the board in quesion to deal with.

Yeah if only they actually would.

UnrealQueen

Originally posted by DRakE
Wouldn't it get very boring without flaming?

Littletinyman, richindub2 and Sangre are already gone for it

Pity you aren't as well. I don't see how you are allowed get away with it and others aren't.

amp

One wonders why you still post to boards UnrealQueen, what with moderators letting flaming happen and the like of DrAke running rampant all over boards.

Or you just might be in a bad mood and have decided to flame people.

Hagar

can body expalin to me the difference between flaming and expressing a genuinely held opinion which is at variance with that held by the majority?

BTW Since LGBTQW are all taken is there any letters left for the rest of us, or am I the last one left who doesn't fit one of your neat little lettered pigeon holes?

UnrealQueen

Originally posted by amp
Or you just might be in a bad mood and have decided to flame people.

Im not flaming anyone.

Hobart

Originally posted by Hagar
can body expalin to me the difference between flaming and expressin BLAH BLAH BLAH................................More Blah.......n holes?

Can you try to construct a post in a readable manner and then somebody might respond to you.

UnrealQueen

Originally posted by Hagar
can body expalin to me the difference between flaming and expressing a genuinely held opinion which is at variance with that held by the majority?

I don't see what's so hard to understand about that Hobart. I definitely don't see any "blaa"s there.

Hagar

Ok, so I mis-typed "explain". I'm sure most people would have guessed the word. We all make typing errors from time to time.

If you don't mind me saying so, that was a pretty poor response from a mod.

Hobart

Hagar, that was a flame. Oh and URQ, its Blah.

amp

Originally posted by UnrealQueen
Im not flaming anyone.

I'd consider calling for a user to get banned a flame. It's not a particularly good flame, sure, but it's one nonetheless.