Art history

LegacyUser

Ok, time to start reading my book. :dunno:. I'm pretty good at this I suppose, I got 72% in the mock history exam after onbly revising newgrange. For the other two questions, I described the van goghs and; did a film one on the matrix.

so... Is the paper predictable? I dont plan on learning much if I can get away with it. Is there always a film question? I can do a class film question with my superiour descriptive capabilities and my flippant use of superflous vocabulary;).

so, am basicly, I just want to know what to learn, and I'll take it from there.

Suaimhneach

Yeah, someone tell me too.

I had planed to do Romantics, Impressionist, La Téne and Newgrange. And "My visit to a meuseam". That's enough right?

LegacyUser

well theres like 3 sections isn't there. Irish art, european art, and art appreciation. I want to know if its predictable what'll come up in each.

one-angry-dwarf

I think romanesque, gothic, newgrange and a museum visit come quite a bit.

anyone know where i can get past papers? those less stress books only have the last two years.

LegacyUser

the departmet website has them in PDF, ugly, but ok

munkeehaven

:dunno: dunno bout the rest of you but i HATE art after taking it up as a subject for the leaving...i love drawing and all that but the history just bores me to eternity...i have not done an ounce of study for it....im just going to cram metalwork,stonecrosses,kells,georgian,romanesque and gothic and the rest of the stuff my teacher has predicted



my soul has been sapped of any enthusiasm i once had for the subject......

munkeehaven

if it'll help anyone i will write down all the stuff my teacher has predicted will come up...shes been teaching for almost 40 years (still standing!)--and usually is very right--so keep a look out tomorrow...and i shall post it up here...my first good deed of the day....

LegacyUser

please do that

munkeehaven

Ok so here it is.....my teacher is usually right-- but i dont want any death threats if something gets f***ed up!!!!:ninja:

*****part one IRISH
*Georgian-- public building (custom house)--classical elements
great house (castletown)---layout furniture,decor,plasterwork,classical elements and function
terraced houses and park--plasterwork
Casino..compare one building with another
know classical elements--columns,capitals,porticos,etc

*Treatment of human figure with the coming of Christianity in high crosses OR development of high crosses

*Development of Cathach and Book of Kells, and Durrow

*Metalwork--bronze,iron age,christian era--link the ages

****part two EUROPEAN
Romanesque,Gothic--sculpture,capitals,Vezelay and Autun (Gisleburtus--sculptor)--structure layout
remember characteristics of both styles--round arch pointed arch,--barrel vault,etc

Dev of Gothic--3 stages--early St Dens, classical Chatres , N.dame flamboyant Rouen

Book of Hours (Duc de Berry).......Wilton Diptych--- both international Gothic style
Chatres cathedral for stained glass.....other sculpture--Well of Moses ..base for a cross v.detailed (Claus Sluter)
Giotto--bridge between Gothic and Renaissance....''Father of Renaissance''
Renaissance--sculpture--Ghiberti--2 doors of Baptistry Florence--Donatello
Van Eyck--oil painting in N.Europe..Arnolfini wedding portrait,etc
WAR PAINTING--Picasso--Guernica--compare with Goya--3rd May (Oath of Horatio in contrast--classical versus modern)
Matisse--fauves(wild beasts)--Kandinsky--Abstract

*****part three

this is piss easy-- just use loads of flowery language and remember if they ask you about a film dont write about the story write about how it is told--lighting,colour,camera shots etc.....and remember for the other questions---ILLUSTRATE!!!!

LegacyUser

ok, nice one, I'm just going to learn one from each section. I've lucked out a lot with predictions so far, so I'll chance it again. If you're wrong, though, I will find you. I'll find you and kill you. The amount of deviation from these predictions will determine the severity of your punishment.

sleep tight

munkeehaven

okay1 (gulp:( ) well --we will all be in the same bpat cos im doing the stuff too --i havent done any work at all!!--all up to how i cram at the weekend!! .now the hard thing will be actually learning it.i have a head like a sieve for art history --nothing stays in-- esp. dates and stuff like that.

Kold

Does anyone have a sample answer on the film question? I plan to do it on 'Spirited Away' but I'm not sure how I'd go about writing about it.

munkeehaven

re:kold

dont know what paper this is from but........

"Film creates a suspension of disbelief that allows the viewer to become mentally and emotionally invoved in another time and another place.Describe and discuss how two live action films (not cartoons) you have seen create this suspension of disbelief thriugh the visual means and techniques available to the film maker''

i dont know why but they seem to have a problem with animation --it rarely is featured..i suppose here anime is still not regarded as a form of art --as it should be....it is still seen as ''cartoons''

LegacyUser

ya, I would have thought they'd love anime. I cant stand to watch it myself, but all that japanese influence should bear some weight.

I'm gonna do the question on the matrix reloaded.
1. bulllet time- write how its done and the effect it has on the viewer
2. That xion scene, where the camera swoops down over the dancers. Eye candy
3. faces in half light, such as smith when he meets neo.
4. The tribal drumming during the fight between neo and the oracles guardian
5. The crows flying away as smith enters the basketball court. Remeniscent of john woo films. The crows frame the scene and draw the viewers eye towards smith. etc etc
6. The car chase on the highway. 8 note bass riff. Then drums and keyboards are added in to heigthen the suspense
7. The light projecting from the architects door when neo opens it. This is a piotal scene, the light coming from the door, the contrast between the shadow and light blah blah etc etc.
8. During the architect scene, scenes of human brutality are shown. Hitler, Himmler, Moussolini, the atomic bomb, stalin, the chinease PM (or possibly the Kmeur rouge leader [they all look the same to me;) ]) Bin Laden, George Bush Sr & Jr (walking on thin ice mentioning them as figures of human brutality!!!) These all help to heighthen the philisophical mood. All the undertones about the human condition etc etc

Those eight points should do it. Make an illustration for each point. Watch the film, so you can get good drawings.

oh, and can you do sketches in colour?

munkeehaven

wow you are really well prepared!!! i think ill do a design something qt-- you know the ones they ask about making a sculpture for a park and stuff like that. doesnt matter if you talk about dubya and blair the way you want-- cos its your exam!!! i think they love sketches ...but only do them if you have time writing is TOP PRIORITY --but my teach said if your stuck for words in any qt to explain something if you draw it you can gain some marks

LegacyUser

it shouldn't matter about your political views, but we've been through this with english and it can subconciously tip the examiner out of or into your favour. Although with art, your examiner will probably be a left winger anyway.

Thats the only question I have prepared. I've wasted 3 days not studying :dunno:

munkeehaven

yea thats true but my teacher made me draw a half naked man for my poster:) because she says they lurrrve human forms--that kinda pissed me off cos for me art was the only subject i could really express myself in without the bloody rules and fakeness thats in english(i do like englicsh though)

Tusky

Im gonna do the fast and the furious :rolleyes: ...... sweh

munkeehaven

is there much in that film though to write about ??i mean its just cars and stuff...well i suppose you can link the cars as symbols of power and virility;)

LegacyUser

didn't john woo do that? There'd be the doves spreading before the cars. I haven't seen the film, I'd prefer not to rape myself like that, but I'm sure its full of eye candy

munkeehaven

a film qt mightn't even come up but there is always something else to do ,the choice is fairly broad.itll be my second last exam so ill be a bit more able to cope with it.art at the start of my leaving would just depress me. http://www.worldgallery.co.uk --thats a pretty nifty site for pics et al;)

honru

Originally posted by munkeehaven
"Film creates a suspension of disbelief that allows the viewer to become mentally and emotionally invoved in another time and another place. Describe and discuss how two live action films (not cartoons) you have seen create this suspension of disbelief thriugh the visual means and techniques available to the film maker''

That's badly worded; there are many animated films that are not cartoons.

munkeehaven

yeah i know but as my teacher says a lot of the examiners can be fairly narrow-minded............though i did hear of a guy that had ''isolation'' as a theme for a poster and so he just drew a small dot in the middle of the page and got 100/100....WTF?!:ninja:

LegacyUser

sounds like an urban ledgend to me. Like the philosophy student who answered the why question with why not

munkeehaven

i dunno....u studying for it know?? i cant get nething into my head...all that georgian stuff is so boring...this is a good site for that if u want-http://www.irish-architecture.com

Cannibal Ox

I found High Crosses and Manuscripts easier then the Architecture...bit late to say that now I know.
I'm terrified about Section B, banking on Giotto or Michalangelo/Leo to come up otherwise I'm screwed.

munkeehaven

FECKK!!!! an hour to go and i know nothing!!! ive been looking on the net for pics and stuff but it aint sinking into the old cerebrum of mine...please gawd i hope giotto comes up........

mayordenis

who the **** is giotto shows what i know with an hour left :ninja:

munkeehaven

what did i tell ya pleb all the stuff my teach said came up ---except for giotto and stone crosses...i was ****ting this morning cos i knew nothing--- it was just by chance i did the manuscripts--kells,durrow etc and they came up...i also did the one on the wilton diptych and the book of hours...i didnt do GREAT but id say i passed.......there was no film qt-- what did you do ??? i did the sculpture qt--and bulled and bulled

munkeehaven

i wonder should i burn my art book or be kind and donate it??? oh now...... i can appreciate art without some snobby book telling me what is good or bad about it --THE JOY!!!:D

Barbie_666

i was over the moon when New Grange came up, and for section 2 i wrote bout Francis Bacon, and I done the shop front question.....how did everyone do?!?:)

munkeehaven

think i did ok my teacher guessed correctly on 95% of what would come up..heck she was a ****e teacher but she was a good predictor!!!!

Barbie_666

my teacher was totally usless, wild nice woman, but a usless teacher.She was on maternity leave for most of forth year, last year, and this year she done nothing but shout at us!!!
she gave us some notes on post-impressionism, cubism, and the romantics , but that was bout it..we went 2 new grange tho...a few of da lads climbed it!!!:D

Suaimhneach

Twasn't that bad at all. Art aprecaition was a bit of a bitch, but the art of waffle should save most.

Here's hoping we all did well.

chrismon

i did 6 pages on new grange,and didnt do to many on either section 2 or 3