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The tread about the holocaust

  • 15-06-2004 01:13PM
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 393 ✭✭


    Where did it go, I hadn't go a chance to read it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,733 ✭✭✭pete


    Holocaust thread?

    It never happened.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,190 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Originally posted by pete
    Holocaust thread?

    It never happened.....
    Lol.

    It got moved to the recycle bin.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32 Sean1916


    Are you trying to say the Institute for Historical Review are wrong when they say the
    holocaust didnt happen ?

    http://www.geocities.com/reocork/hex.htm

    http://www.faughaballagh.com/noone/50reasonsnew.htm

    http://www.ihr.org/


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 393 ✭✭Kelter


    Oh Seanie boy you unlovable rogue. Lets call it a draw, Maybe 6 million jews didn't die, but a great injustice was done and as such serves as an example to the world to take care in the future.

    By the way that first site you quoted on the other tread is a skinhead site which also talks about white for white charities.

    These people don't want fairness in regards to the holocaust, they want all non-arians to die


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,295 ✭✭✭Meh


    Originally posted by Sean1916
    Are you trying to say the Institute for Historical Review are wrong when they say the holocaust didnt happen ?
    I'm not just saying they're wrong, I'm saying they're deliberately lying.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,143 ✭✭✭spongebob


    Listen Sean1942

    The Holocaust happened as is generally agreed . 6 Million odd went into the Nazi death camp system and died, all within about 3 years.

    So did the Gulag , God knows how many died there 10m at least. .

    So did the Ukrainian Famine of 1932 - 1933 which was probably the most concentrated genocide of all time ......up to 1m died every month .

    All of it was white on white genocide. Aren't we just great :(

    M


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,438 ✭✭✭TwoShedsJackson


    Originally posted by Sean1916
    Are you trying to say the Institute for Historical Review are wrong when they say the
    holocaust didnt happen ?


    I'm sure they're of the utmost integrity, as much as the British National Party even, having been founded by the same person :rolleyes:

    http://www.nizkor.org/faqs/ihr/ihr-faq-02.html


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,968 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Institute for Historical Review

    Dontcha love the way these organsiations fly under a bland title...

    Mike.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,190 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Originally posted by Muck
    So did the Ukrainian Famine of 1932 - 1933 which was probably the most concentrated genocide of all time ......up to 1m died every month .
    I never heard about that :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,608 ✭✭✭✭sceptre


    Originally posted by mike65
    Dontcha love the way these organsiations fly under a bland title...

    Mike.
    Oh it's an old trick. If I remember rightly there's an organisation in the US going under a name similar to "organisation for the preservation of forest life" or something. They represent the logging industry.

    An organisation with a name like "Institute for Historical Review" gets taken far more seriously than "Institute for Decent White Folk" until you realise their links with the BNP and white power (see the way I spelled that with an "-er" instead of an "-a"?) movement in general and any other organisations with an axe to grind against a Jewish neck if there aren't any black people around.



    Anyone else think that Warren Beatty actually made some very valid points about race in Bulworth? Or do you have to be a looney liberal to think that?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32 Sean1916


    Originally posted by Kelter
    Oh Seanie boy you unlovable rogue. Lets call it a draw, Maybe 6 million jews didn't die, but a great injustice was done and as such serves as an example to the world to take care in the future.

    By the way that first site you quoted on the other tread is a skinhead site which also talks about white for white charities.

    These people don't want fairness in regards to the holocaust, they want all non-arians to die

    If millions of jews did die then why did they find no mass graves ? more germans died in WW2 than jews.

    And why were jews kicked out of every country in europe if their so innocent ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,143 ✭✭✭spongebob


    Originally posted by Sean1867
    If millions of jews did die then why did they find no mass graves ? more germans died in WW2 than jews.

    Many of the Germans who died WERE JEWS , killed by their own people.

    Check up on the history of the Treblinka camp , 100's of 1000's exterminated in an area slightly larger than Croke Park, and then Cremated immediately. Would cremation be a satisfactory reason as to the lack of Bodies ?????????????

    Up to 2 million ethnic Germans (not jews as they were already dead) were killed in Eastern Europe during the period 1945-1950, not all of them in POW camps in Siberia either ! . This is not surprising given the horrors wreaked by the Germans on the Poles during 1939-1945. This article on the subject seems pretty accurate to me but I didn't follow all the links to make sure that some retarded skinhead mags are not there somewhere.

    Another fine White against White mess we got ourselves into , I'm sure that Seán1977 will agree :(

    M


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,652 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    Originally posted by Sean1916
    If millions of jews did die then why did they find no mass graves ?
    Ovens to burn the bodies maybe? And mass graves were found.
    Originally posted by Sean1916
    more germans died in WW2 than jews.
    Got any reliable figures? How many of those Germans killed by the Nazis? Please note than many Germans died while invading Russia, this may be distorting your figures. You should also note that tens of millions of Russians, Poles, Slavs, gypsies, communists, trade unionists, disabled people, gays and many other 'choice of the week' minorities and other groups were also killed by the Nazis.
    Originally posted by Sean1916
    And why were jews kicked out of every country in europe if their so innocent ?
    Let me ask a question back. Why are there millions of displaced people in central and east Africa (a) holiday season (b) they are trying to escape genocide (c) great deals in the local Tescos?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,608 ✭✭✭✭sceptre


    Originally posted by Sean1916
    If millions of jews did die then why did they find no mass graves ?
    Like this one?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 48 Ireland Awake!


    IF 6 million jews did die, so what. i dont mean to sound ignorant but look at all the other attrocities in history. some were mentioned like the soviet engineered famine. but none of these other attrocities have been as exploited as the holocaust has. the jews continue to exploit their suffering. it is sickening. we lost 4 million to the famine through death and emmigration, do we ever exploit that?
    now i am a revisonist and dont believe the nazis had any such plans to exterminate any race. there is simply not enough evidence to suggest this. revisionists aren't allowed to have debates with holocaust historians? why? becasue we would win outright. if we were so stupid we would be shot down in such a debate but everyone knows that we couldn't be and therefore fear the consequences of us being accepted as right...
    i am not here to spread hate or whatever you want to call it, i am here to have a civilised debate and i shall ignore those are incapable of of such a debate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,628 ✭✭✭Asok


    Originally posted by Ireland Awake!
    IF 6 million jews did die, so what. i dont mean to sound ignorant but look at all the other attrocities in history. some were mentioned like the soviet engineered famine. but none of these other attrocities have been as exploited as the holocaust has. the jews continue to exploit their suffering. it is sickening. we lost 4 million to the famine through death and emmigration, do we ever exploit that?
    now i am a revisonist and dont believe the nazis had any such plans to exterminate any race. there is simply not enough evidence to suggest this. revisionists aren't allowed to have debates with holocaust historians? why? becasue we would win outright. if we were so stupid we would be shot down in such a debate but everyone knows that we couldn't be and therefore fear the consequences of us being accepted as right...
    i am not here to spread hate or whatever you want to call it, i am here to have a civilised debate and i shall ignore those are incapable of of such a debate.

    Your a retard.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 48 Ireland Awake!


    there is a picture of dead camp inmates. who is to say they were gassed. the fact is most of them died in the last few months of the war, even the document prove this. this was due to the destruction of the german infrastructure. the germans couldn't even look after their own at this point. if you see a picture of 'death camp victims' notice what uniforms the soldiers are wearing. theya re always british or american. it is well preached by the holocaust lobby that all death camps existed in the east which would have been under soviet control.....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,933 ✭✭✭thejollyrodger


    It got moved to the recycle bin.

    The place where it belongs !! Anti Semetic/Israeli/Jew posts shouldnt be tolerated. How can anyone belive the holocost didnt happen ????


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 48 Ireland Awake!


    Originally posted by thejollyrodger
    The place where it belongs !! Anti Semetic/Israeli/Jew posts shouldnt be tolerated. How can anyone belive the holocost didnt happen ????

    it is actually very very simple to prove it did not happen. it's just not so simple to get the message accross because of jew controlled media.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 48 Ireland Awake!


    Originally posted by Asok
    Your a retard.

    your posts suggest you may be what you claim i am. 'your' should be 'you're' in this case. if you are incapable of debate just say, or does that surpass your capabilities too??


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,628 ✭✭✭Asok


    No you pedantic gob****e.
    As a german I find people like you and sean ****ing disgusting pieces of rubbish that should be gotten rid of and the gene pool cleansed of such complete and utter stupidity.

    How on earth can you claim that the holocost didnt happen were you there? were you with the troops that found these camps or were all the units made up of terrible covetest jews!.

    Its a very simple fact. The holocost happened there was and is proof. So next time you feel like liberating the german people of the unfair guilt placed on us by the jewish controlled media,Just don't.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,968 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    www.stormfront.org

    for our racist fiends....

    Mike.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,652 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    Originally posted by Ireland Awake!
    who is to say they were gassed.
    You are the first person to mention gas on this thread.

    I suspect the people in the picture above didn't die of obesity.
    Originally posted by Ireland Awake!
    IF 6 million jews did die, so what. i dont mean to sound ignorant but look at all the other attrocities in history. some were mentioned like the soviet engineered famine. but none of these other attrocities have been as exploited as the holocaust has. the jews continue to exploit their suffering. it is sickening. we lost 4 million to the famine through death and emmigration, do we ever exploit that?
    2 million (1 million dead, 1 million emigrated) is the generally used figure. And yes, it is used for leverage. I remember Tony Blair apologising for the famine only a few years ago.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 48 Ireland Awake!


    Originally posted by Asok
    No you pedantic gob****e.
    As a german I find people like you and sean ****ing disgusting pieces of rubbish that should be gotten rid of and the gene pool cleansed of such complete and utter stupidity.

    How on earth can you claim that the holocost didnt happen were you there? were you with the troops that found these camps or were all the units made up of terrible covetest jews!.

    Its a very simple fact. The holocost happened there was and is proof. So next time you feel like liberating the german people of the unfair guilt placed on us by the jewish controlled media,Just don't.

    oh my, someone isn't a happy camper. well your opinion of i couldn't matter any less to me. i shall not play these immature name calling games.
    were you there? did you see the jews being gassed? come on, what sort of arguement is that that you are trying to attempt! please....
    there is far more proof to prove that it didn't happen. don't worry i was once as silly and asleep as you were. it takes just a little reading and common sense to wake up and realise that you have been lied to. there are more reasons for the holocaust not to have happened than there is for it to have happened. it makes more sense that it didn't.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,628 ✭✭✭Asok


    I have read all you're posts and all I can make out from them in my sleepy state is that somewhere there is a person at a pc slapping his head shouting "HAHAAHAHAH IM BONKERS!"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 48 Ireland Awake!


    Originally posted by Victor
    You are the first person to mention gas on this thread.

    I suspect the people in the picture above didn't die of obesity.

    do you know what, i don't think they died from obesity either! they died from starvation and disease. i never said the nazis weren't to blame for the deaths of many jews and others, i simply said there was no hard evidence to suggest that there was national socialist plan for racial extermination.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 48 Ireland Awake!


    Originally posted by Asok
    I have read all you're posts and all I can make out from them in my sleepy state is that somewhere there is a person at a pc slapping his head shouting "HAHAAHAHAH IM BONKERS!"

    well if that is all you can make out i suggest that you go back to sleep...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32 Sean1916


    Originally posted by Asok
    No you pedantic gob****e.
    As a german I find people like you and sean ****ing disgusting pieces of rubbish that should be gotten rid of and the gene pool cleansed of such complete and utter stupidity.

    How on earth can you claim that the holocost didnt happen were you there? were you with the troops that found these camps or were all the units made up of terrible covetest jews!.

    Its a very simple fact. The holocost happened there was and is proof. So next time you feel like liberating the german people of the unfair guilt placed on us by the jewish controlled media,Just don't.


    Even Mel Gibson and his Father dont believe in the holocaust, dont tell me you think their "lying" as well ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,628 ✭✭✭Asok


    Mr noone if thats you ucc's computer services were'nt too happy last time were they :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 48 Ireland Awake!


    Originally posted by Sean1916
    Even Mel Gibson and his Father dont believe in the holocaust, dont tell me you think their "lying" as well ?

    true, the gibsons are revisonists too. these people will tell you anyone, no matter who, that disputes the lies they believe, are liar racist nazis.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 48 Ireland Awake!


    Originally posted by Asok
    Mr noone if thats you ucc's computer services were'nt too happy last time were they :)

    i don't know which of us you are accusing of being david noone, but it's typical. some idiots just can't seem to understand that there are more than one person in ireland that doesn't believe the jewish lies.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 18,013 Mod ✭✭✭✭ixoy


    Originally posted by Sean1916
    Even Mel Gibson and his Father dont believe in the holocaust, dont tell me you think their "lying" as well ?
    Actually firstly it's Mel Gibson's father, not Mel Gibson, who has espoused views - but hey! We're not dealing in reality here, so let's just say it's all the Gibsons on earth.
    Secondly, if Mel Gibson says it's true then it must be true. After all - it's Mel Gibson! Mel Gibson is the Supreme Authority on All Historical Matters Ever, a title recently awarded to him by the magic type-writing monkeys who produce revisionist history doctrine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,628 ✭✭✭Asok


    i shall not play these immature name calling games.
    Yet!
    some idiots just can't seem to understand

    HOLY HYPOCRITAL CUB SCOUTS BATMAN!


    Even Mel Gibson and his Father dont believe in the holocaust, dont tell me you think their "lying" as well ?

    Have you seen the passion of the christ the mans nuts!

    Ah bless your souls.

    :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 48 Ireland Awake!


    Originally posted by ixoy
    Actually firstly it's Mel Gibson's father, not Mel Gibson, who has espoused views - but hey! We're not dealing in reality here, so let's just say it's all the Gibsons on earth.
    Secondly, if Mel Gibson says it's true then it must be true. After all - it's Mel Gibson! Mel Gibson is the Supreme Authority on All Historical Matters Ever, a title recently awarded to him by the magic type-writing monkeys who produce revisionist history doctrine.

    hmmmmm.... humorous.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,733 ✭✭✭pete


    Originally posted by Ireland Awake!
    i don't know which of us you are accusing of being david noone, but it's typical. some idiots just can't seem to understand that there are more than one person in ireland that doesn't believe the jewish lies.

    Don't mind these Reds - I know there are at least 6 of you.

    Possibly even 7.

    ps thanks for the link.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 48 Ireland Awake!


    Originally posted by Asok
    Yet!


    HOLY HYPOCRITAL CUB SCOUTS BATMAN!





    Have you seen the passion of the christ the mans nuts!

    Ah bless your souls.

    :)

    i suppose this is the closest you can get to debate. good boy, fair play for trying all the same.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 48 Ireland Awake!


    Originally posted by pete
    Don't mind these Reds - I know there are at least 6 of you.

    Possibly even 7.

    ps thanks for the link.


    i don't know whether you are joking or what as i am not aware of your stance on this. you claim to know up to 7 revisionists in ireland, that's good. thanks for what link pete?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,733 ✭✭✭pete


    Originally posted by Ireland Awake!
    i don't know whether you are joking or what as i am not aware of your stance on this. you claim to know up to 7 revisionists in ireland, that's good. thanks for what link pete?

    Oh you! Such a wag!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32 Sean1916


    Originally posted by ixoy
    Actually firstly it's Mel Gibson's father, not Mel Gibson, who has espoused views - but hey! We're not dealing in reality here, so let's just say it's all the Gibsons on earth.
    Secondly, if Mel Gibson says it's true then it must be true. After all - it's Mel Gibson! Mel Gibson is the Supreme Authority on All Historical Matters Ever, a title recently awarded to him by the magic type-writing monkeys who produce revisionist history doctrine.

    Mel feels the same as his father but has to keep his mouth shut if he wants to do well in hollywood.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,628 ✭✭✭Asok


    Originally posted by Ireland Awake!
    i suppose this is the closest you can get to debate. good boy, fair play for trying all the same.

    It's pointless to debate with delusional cranks so why should I bother.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 48 Ireland Awake!


    Originally posted by Asok
    It's pointless to debate with delusional cranks so why should I bother.

    well that is your opinion and unfortunately you are entitled to it. so if you are not going to bother, why are you still posting in this topic?
    do you just need some attention? has mommy left at home all alone?
    bah....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,628 ✭✭✭Asok


    Petty insults tut tut.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,130 ✭✭✭✭Karl Hungus


    Originally posted by Ireland Awake!
    i simply said there was no hard evidence to suggest that there was national socialist plan for racial extermination.

    Considering how much free labour the concentration camps were providing for Hitler, it wouldn't seem too wise of Der Fuhrer to kill off the jews. Let's not forget the medical experiments either! Jews were the bunny rabbits back in the day.

    But he certianly did want them killed by the end of the war.
    Hence the term 'Final Solution'.

    So while his motives for reducing the Jews to the status of slaves probably weren't genocidal, I don't see how you can argue with the end result of this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,733 ✭✭✭pete


    guys guys guys

    You're forgetting all the lessons from infiltration 101

    first you post rationally, just like everyone else

    then you drop in the "i blame the immigrants"

    then you touch on excessively liberal immigration policies and repatriation

    then you slip in the odd "you know, old adolf wasn't all bad", just to test the water

    then you drop the "i blame the jew" (note: always singular)

    then (AND ONLY THEN) do you kick off with the "IT NEVER HAPPENED! Honest!" schtick.

    you're really slipping.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 163 ✭✭earwicker


    Kind of ironic that someone on the Feedback boards was just complaining about the "lefty bias" on the politics boards. They saw a lack of balance due to a dearth of right-wing viewpoints.

    Looks like the internet gods abhor a vacuum.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 658 ✭✭✭Trebor


    tbh who cares, it happened over 50 years ago. what does it matter how many were killed for what reason and by who? lets all look to the future :) and realise that there is only one real race................................. the human race!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 48 Ireland Awake!


    Originally posted by Karl Hungus
    Considering how much free labour the concentration camps were providing for Hitler, it wouldn't seem too wise of Der Fuhrer to kill off the jews. Let's not forget the medical experiments either! Jews were the bunny rabbits back in the day.

    But he certianly did want them killed by the end of the war.
    Hence the term 'Final Solution'.

    So while his motives for reducing the Jews to the status of slaves probably weren't genocidal, I don't see how you can argue with the end result of this.

    the first bit makes sense. most people can't even agree with that.
    final solution is the deportation of the jews, just read the wansee conferance minutes and you will see.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,968 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Originally posted by Trebor
    tbh who cares, it happened over 50 years ago. what does it matter how many were killed for what reason and by who? lets all look to the future :) and realise that there is only one real race................................. the human race!!!

    "Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it". Or somthing similair.

    Mike.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,733 ✭✭✭pete


    Originally posted by mike65
    "Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it". Or somthing similair.

    Mike.

    i'd say about 27* of us had the same thought at the same time

    * = this figure may or may not include the 6 revisionists in ireland. or 7.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 48 Ireland Awake!


    Originally posted by Trebor
    tbh who cares, it happened over 50 years ago. what does it matter how many were killed for what reason and by who? lets all look to the future :) and realise that there is only one real race................................. the human race!!!

    hilarious! the jews care, thats why the make millions and millions every year out of it. you cannot have such a disregard for the past.
    as for your ridiculous human race bull, humans are a species, not a race. if we were one race then define racsism....

    "A man without a knowledge of his people's history . . . remains a child forever." Marcus Tullius Cicero


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