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Do you believe in fate?

  • 13-06-2004 04:43PM
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,959 ✭✭✭


    I have mixed opinions as to whether fate exists or not. Sometimes something seems like it was "meant to be", like a friendship, and then turns out it was wrong.
    I'm just wondering if you think fate exists or not.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,484 ✭✭✭✭Stephen


    No.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,472 ✭✭✭AdMMM


    No.

    Although I predict that as I get old and grey, I'll go to church every morning at 9am, to make my life less boring!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 28,128 ✭✭✭✭Mossy Monk


    not at all


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,510 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    Nope, it's just another device mankind have invented to try make ourselves feel better about life.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,984 ✭✭✭✭Lump


    No


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  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 5,945 ✭✭✭BEAT


    yes.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 4,436 Mod ✭✭✭✭Suaimhneach


    Yup, to a certain degree.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 550 ✭✭✭Barbie_666


    yeah!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,880 ✭✭✭Raphael


    No, I hate the thought that I have no control over my own life, and that everything I do is predetermined. Even if someone proved its real, I'm gonna keep not believing in it, i just hate the idea

    Guess thats my fate :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,092 ✭✭✭✭Tusky


    I think its a silly idea... certain people just get on like a house on fire , or are extremely attracetd to each other . The idea of fate or 'one true love' in my opinion is rediculous.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,604 ✭✭✭blondie83


    Yeah of course, there are some things that just can't be explained otherwise.:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,225 ✭✭✭JackKelly


    yea....wait,actually no.

    not really anyway. There is too much happening for there to be a governing "fate"


    like what things can't be explained otherwise?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,135 ✭✭✭KlodaX


    Fate as in everything happens for a reason?

    Yes I most definitly believe in that. Its about the only thing I know for sure. I'm not sure what does it, or why ... not that I mind not knowing ... but I'd bet my life that its all interlinked and that what you do is interlinked with something in the future and so is for a reason.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,447 ✭✭✭ando


    not sure


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,174 ✭✭✭[CALIBUR]


    No


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,363 ✭✭✭Mystic Fibrosis


    Hell no.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,152 ✭✭✭sound_wave


    fate...hogswash...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,098 ✭✭✭BKtje


    No


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,967 ✭✭✭✭Zulu


    I'm wondering how many women said "yes"?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 322 ✭✭Kobie


    Nope!!!

    What would be the point in living if you never really had any choice how things would turn out? Good things happen to bad people & bad things happen to good people (and vice versa). There's not reason for it. Like the wise bumper sticker once said:

    Sh!t happens!!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,607 ✭✭✭✭sceptre


    Originally posted by neev
    I have mixed opinions as to whether fate exists or not. Sometimes something seems like it was "meant to be", like a friendship, and then turns out it was wrong.
    I'm just wondering if you think fate exists or not.
    You sound as if you're a little more concerned with fated relationships than fate in general.

    Answer's still no.

    Do you think "luck" actually exists outside of a concept? That some people are naturally "lucky" while other people are "unlucky" by their very nature? of course not. OK, some people have had a good long string of good things to happen to them while some people experience the opposite but can you honestly think that there's some kind of design and pre-destination coming inro play here? I rather hope not.


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 14,100 Mod ✭✭✭✭monument


    No.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8 Lickle Lover


    Everything happens for a reason and we have no control over it. Sometimes its good, sometimes its bad.

    Of course Fate exists....and no matter how in control you think you are, we are governed by fate and what it has in store for us....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,038 ✭✭✭mad m


    i say yes,

    ok we might not have control over it or where it goes but it has happened to me once and have to say id do it all over again even now knowing what the out come was...nothing like that feeling......ah someone pass the tissues for god sake please!!!!! have mercy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,607 ✭✭✭✭sceptre


    Originally posted by Lickle Lover
    Everything happens for a reason and we have no control over it. Sometimes its good, sometimes its bad.

    Of course Fate exists....and no matter how in control you think you are, we are governed by fate and what it has in store for us....
    In that case, why do we punish criminals (for example). They're pushed by an external force into doing things that they've no control over so why should they be punished?

    I suppose you can answer with "fate makes us do it" but extra points if you've got anything else


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,191 ✭✭✭Unpossible


    Although I predict that as I get old and grey, I'll go to church every morning at 9am, to make my life less boring!
    I think thats faith not fate
    so why should they be punished?
    Its their fate to be punished

    Yes I bleive that fate has paths for us, sometimes the path is clear sometimes not. Fate helps things work out.

    A strange view of life was told to me by my accupuncturist (sp), she said that life was a series of challenges which are there to help mold us, if we step away from the challenge or we don't complete it then it will continue to repeat itself on us (face your challenges type of thing)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,058 ✭✭✭Gurgle


    I don't think there is any such thing as fate, in the sense of a force which makes us follow a certain pre-defined path in our lives.
    On the other hand, many things in a persons life are inevitable, due to that persons nature, the people around him and how the universe works. This version of fate depends on free will because under a given set of circumstances, you will make the same set of decisions every time.

    So free will isn't predefined by fate, its predefined by how you think.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,001 ✭✭✭ravenhead


    Originally posted by Zulu
    I'm wondering how many women said "yes"?

    I'm a woman & I say HELL NO..... We make our own choices in life ......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,510 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    There is no God.
    There is no Allah.
    There is no Jehovah.
    There is no Luck.
    There is no Fate.
    There is no "one special person" for anyone.
    There is no Magic.
    There are no miracles.
    Horoscopes are bull**** peddaled to the naieve.
    There is no Handsome Prince, Fairy Godmother or Pot of Gold.

    Accept the above and you take the first step towards happiness, or at the very least, sanity.


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  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 18,017 Mod ✭✭✭✭ixoy


    Fate is a cheap way of trying to explain your circumstances. There isn't some bizarre form of predetermined pattern to life, some reason for everything happening because it's leading to some final goal. It, much like faith (which can share many of the same conceits), is just another security blanket that we wrap around ourselves to try and comfort us against the mind-numbingly large potential possible directions our lives may go. It's also often an excuse to encourage a particular form of behavior - you don't have to change your ideology, or actions because hey! fate has determined this is for you.

    I think though that the most offensive thing about the concept of fate is that it includes, at some level, the principle of a locked mindset and that your actions, by and large, are of no consequence (which was one of the major themes of "The Matrix" for what it's worth). It seems almost defeatist, pandering to resignation. You could try and prove it almost scientifically, if you wished, by claiming that if you know the state and velocity of every particle in the universe at a particular point then you can predict all subsequent actions but that's pure theory that can be refuted with other theory....


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