Most over-rated rock bands ever?

museslave

i think nirvana are the most over-rated band... i no a **** load of ppl wil hate me for this but they are... most of their songs sounded the same. and kurt cobain was at most, an average guitarist.

aphex™

Nirvana are overrated. Nowadays.
But back in 1991, there was nothing better than them. Who was everybody listening to at the time? ZzTop... Hammer, whacko jacko?

museslave

soundgarden, pearl jam?

radiospan

Nirvana are good, yes, but way overrated.

Too many people talk of Kurt Cobain and Nirvana as being untouchable. Bollocks.

I do like them though.

dudara

Pearl Jam, big time overrated.

museslave

pearl jam over-rated? no way they are a quality band... although their album no code is ****... but their great

Creamy Goodness

coldplay
strokes
pearl jam

all good bands but are well over rated

AngelofFire

Nirvana were one of the most influential bands of the 90s-yes i kno that there are loads of kids going around with the "i hate myself and i want to die" teeshirts these days, because nirvana are "so in" this year. But that should not taint their artistic credibility.

Overrated-Slipknot,Metallica,The pixies,Megadeth.Queen,Blur

Pugsley

Slayer, Metallica, Nirvana.

Dunno what people see in Slayer really, their pretty good, but their heralded as god's in far too many people's eye's :dunno:

Explosive_Cornflake

U2 i think i over rated. I know how people will re act to this though, but its just my opinion.
Nirvana i'd agree with.
A lot of bands you see people wearing t-shirts off, and you know they don;t listen to to.
Such as ramones t-shirts and so on.

nosmo

I've said it once, I'll say it again, and I'll keep saying it until some bikers beat the **** out of me and break my jaw.

CANNIBAL CORPSE!
I mean... come on. Is it the song titles? Is it the fact its "Manly" death metal? I don't get it.. The music ****ing sucks.

Explosive_Cornflake

Corpse were a legend of a band. ****ty production on the earlier albums, but good. The Bleeding is a master piece i think. Gore rotted was a piece of crap. The Wretched spawn aint so great either. It all fell apart after barnes left really. i think he used to right most of the songs, they are just stupid now.
But, if you haven't listened to the bleeding do, that is a good album.
Good live band, but not good at making albums anymore, just very formulaic.

Karl Hungus

Originally posted by nosmo
I've said it once, I'll say it again, and I'll keep saying it until some bikers beat the **** out of me and break my jaw.

CANNIBAL CORPSE!
I mean... come on. Is it the song titles? Is it the fact its "Manly" death metal? I don't get it.. The music ****ing sucks.

I'd have to agree with you, nosmo...

Cannibal Corpse are just a terrible band.

hostyle

To be honest _most_ bands out there are over-rated. Everyones taste is different, and everyones taste usually changes over time. As for Nirvana / Pixies being over-rated - what a bunch of fools you are. Both bands changed the face of music decades ago. They may be "over-rated" these days, but I think what you mean is that they're music isn't modern - and how would it be? Compare like to like - compare the Pixies with their contemporaries, not modern day bands. Ditto with Nirvana.

Explosive_Cornflake

You were the first person o mention the pixies in this thread?

Dathai

Slipknot,HIM,Nirvana -Thats the lot as far as I can see.

mike65

Any rock band that sold records and dissapointed anyone is overrated by someone. I'll go for Velvet Undeground.

Mike.

Johnny_the_fox

I goin to stick my neck out here and say

Guns n roses..

They only have a small number (4 of the top of my head) of good songs -> Paradise City, Sweet Child Of Mine, Welcome To The Jungle and November Rain..

they couldnt get enough songs for their greatest hits so they did covers..

Overrated as a band yes..

Cheez

I agree with slayer,guns and roses being overrated but they've decent musicians at least. Leave poor Nirvana alone,Foo Fighters are far more overrated-stick to drummin thats what you're better at. spose he's makin a fair few pound fifty for himself so he may aswell.

colincarnate

Originally posted by Johnny_the_fox

they couldnt get enough songs for their greatest hits so they did covers..

A 'hit' is a fact, hits are bottom of the barrell catchy downright mass-dumb-ass-audience. Lots of GN'R fans were saying 'this and that' should have been on the GH, but those songs voiced simply weren't hits hence the need of the 'best ofs' in music. For example people wanted Estranged on it, but even though it's the their best song it was never a hit per say, okay.

As a stupid GN'R fan i hate their hits, i never got the dumb-ass GH.
Am i glad that you don't like them and won't be listening to other pure KILLER albeit maybe not 98FM-hit-songs? - Yes

Get in the in ring!

It wasn't me!

I don't think Nirvana and the Pixies are overrated. They did do a phenomenable amount to change the way music affected people's lives. And having seen the Pixies yesterday, that was music! Outstanding. I think anyone who gets the huge amounts of acclaim has got to be overrated. I mean, nobody's that good. People like RHCP, Metallica, Slipknot, all incredibly overrated. Good but overrated.

exiot

I think AC/DC are over rated, everyone seems to listen to them at the moment and think they are amazing, but once you heard one of their songs you have heard them all, they all sound the same..

cournioni

Originally posted by Pugsley
Slayer, Metallica, Nirvana.

Dunno what people see in Slayer really, their pretty good, but their heralded as god's in far too many people's eye's :dunno:

Well Slayer basically started the whole death metal genre with help from Morbid Angel. You really can't argue with that. And before someone says it, no I don't think Venom or Celtic Frost had a big influence on the genre. They had some, but not a big influence.

The most overrated band ever are Nirvana, without a doubt.

museslave

fact is nirvana didnt change the face of music alone... they had the help of pearl jam and soundgarden... but personally i cant c how they changed music... like no other decent bands came out that are like them. they may hav influenced other bands but thats it... anyway bands get loads of different inspirations

Dathai

The most overrated band is the one that did nothing for rock and are loved by morons.

Explosive_Cornflake

Sorry to (very) picky but slayer aren't death metal, they'd be thrash metal. But yes, Morbid Angel and slayer did help bring up newer styles of metal to the front.

I wouldn't say slayer are over rated. All their albums were ace up until 1994.

Civilian_Target

I have to say 3 of the most overrated "acts" out there are Funeral For A Friend, AFI and the Foo Fighters.

The first two are just crap, I don't know why they were signed, but they're NOT good, and if it weren't for MTV being so buyable they'd be long forgotten. And as for the foo fighters, well I guess its the Grohl effect, plus their blandness being interpreted as "mass appeal"

nadir

AFI, overrated? no way, I saw em last year, they kicked ass.
also gun 'n roses overated? appetite for destruction is amazing, and if you pooled use you illusions 1 and 2 into a single album it would probably be even better.
Nirvana, definately overrated, Perl-Jam, no i dont think so, granted they have alot of poor material, but they also have alot of quality stuff.
AC/DC are really awesome, but you got to take it in context, they have been around so long, they really have added alot of origional material to music and influenced countless bands, I dont think you could possibly call them over rated.

I guess its good to look at a band in terms of how origional they are, and how much they influence other bands, trends etc.

iasc

Originally posted by nadir

Nirvana, definately overrated,

I guess its good to look at a band in terms of how origional they are, and how much they influence other bands, trends etc.

kinda contradicted yourself there, nirvana were the most influential band of the 90's

Karl Hungus

Originally posted by PORNAPSTER
And before someone says it, no I don't think Venom or Celtic Frost had a big influence on the genre. They had some, but not a big influence.

****ing go straight to hell! You've sinned against Metal!!! :eek: :eek: :eek:

Baggio

Overrated bands?..nnaaa can't be...all those metal/death/thrash etc bands are/were true masters!!,,,and good ol' Nirvana..wow they really were a class act...I'd listen for hours and hours yawning my head off with excitement,,,hehehe ahhh welll I'd better not say any more,,,suffice to say...chilli's nirvana g+r slipnott etc etc..all muppets and bad ones at that,,.,perhaps big bird and kermitt could give them all a run for their money at playing quality music,,hahahahahahahahahaha sarcastic git signs off..
ciao' amigo........Baggio

[P]*Deus_Alpha

Nirvana are over rated defo, most of the people i've ever said it to have disagreed, come on there are definitly better bands out there

Placebo

nirvana and that sad excuse for metal mettalica.
maybe rhcp but maybe cause i just hate them

elvis2002

Nirvana - Hate them with a passion, destroyed rock music and the electric guitar solo.
RHCP - The worst so called rock band I've ever heard, i dont understand why there so popular, there bloody ****.

nadir

Originally posted by iasc
kinda contradicted yourself there, nirvana were the most influential band of the 90's

as a matter of interest , which great bands around today would you say were seriously influenced by nirvana?

razorfeather

Originally posted by nosmo
I've said it once, I'll say it again, and I'll keep saying it until some bikers beat the **** out of me and break my jaw.

CANNIBAL CORPSE!
I mean... come on. Is it the song titles? Is it the fact its "Manly" death metal? I don't get it.. The music ****ing sucks.

agree completely.
"i cum blood".

eh .. yi might wanna get that checked out like???

Lemming

wtf?!!! I posted on this thead the other day ........ now nothing?!!

nosmo

Originally posted by razorfeather
agree completely.
"i cum blood".

eh .. yi might wanna get that checked out like???

That's the ewxact song I was thinking about

Lemming: Boards database blew up, had to restore from back up. Pretty much all of yesterday's posts were lost

Karl Hungus

Originally posted by Lemming
wtf?!!! I posted on this thead the other day ........ now nothing?!!

Happened to me aswell, something to do with boards having to be rolled back, hence a day's worth of posts being binned as such.

It wasn't me!

RHCP aren't really rock. They're pop/rock. At the moment they are crap. Go back 15 years and they're one of the best things going.

The thing about Nirvana was they made Grunge that had a little more mass appeal than bands like Soundgarden who were really underground. This meant that people were hearing this and thought, "Hey, that's good. What kind of music's that?" Then they hear that it's grunge and they're thinking, "Who else are called grunge?" And this is how people discovered Alice in Chains and Soundgarden.

AFI kick ass. They have a really different sound to anyone else. Funeral for a Friend I'll agree with. They have something going on but nothing that justifies their success.

And as for elvis, I don't think Nirvana destroyed guitar solos. They definitely did them differently though. Kurt was a very low class guitaris for someone who played for so long and he had to find a way to write solos that didn't sound terrible without making them so complicated he couldn't play them. That's the Nirvana sound and it's stuck. No matter what you and other people who hate them say, it's stuck.

cournioni

Originally posted by Karl Hungus
****ing go straight to hell! You've sinned against Metal!!! :eek: :eek: :eek:

mwnger

The Doors are/were the most over-rated band of the 60's. Jim Morrison was a pretentious w*nker who took the genre of rock music, particularly lyrics, way too seriously. This in itself has been a bad influence. The Doors did have some good songs, i'll give them that, but the vast majority of their catalogue is piss-poor.

Ditto the Sex Pistols. Many proclaim that they changed music and they have undoubtedly been influential. But nothing about them was remotely new or innovative. Despite saying they despised the Rolling Stones and all they stood for, the fact is that their punk attitude was merely a more extreme version of the Stones own surly posing back in the 60's, and, apart fom Johnny Rotten's singing, their music wasn't all that different either (just not as good). The Clash are were its at in terms of punk's musical importance.

As regards Nirvana, in no way did they 'revolutionize' rock, all they did was revive the public's interest in it, at a time when it looked like it was at deaths door. They weren't doing anything 'new' as such. But this doesn't mean that they weren't a fantastic band, because they clearly were. And Cobain certainly wasn't a virtuouso guitar player, but what he had over Eddie Van Halen and Slash et al was that he was a truly great songwriter.

As for contemporary bands, I have to agree with whoever put down the Strokes and Coldplay -what do people see in them?

the_obsolete

Originally posted by Placebo
that sad excuse for metal mettalica.

How dare you insult them like that! Sure their more recent stuff hasn't been metalish but there's no bloody harm in that sure! You should recieve an enema for saying they're a sad excuse for metal- you saying Kill 'Em, Ride, Master and ...And Justice are sh*t excuses for metal albums? F**k that!

Civilian_Target

Originally posted by nadir
AFI, overrated? no way, I saw em last year, they kicked ass.

Yeah, you're right, they're not overrated. They're just crap. Music is all about options, and there's mine in text form.

RicardoSmith

Originally posted by exiot
I think AC/DC are over rated, everyone seems to listen to them at the moment and think they are amazing, but once you heard one of their songs you have heard them all, they all sound the same..

ACDC do exactly what it says on the tin.

Overated by whom? What were you expecting, a string quartet? They haven't even changed their clothes never mind their music in about 20 years. But they are brilliant at what they do.

RicardoSmith

Originally posted by Civilian_Target
Yeah, you're right, they're not overrated. They're just crap. Music is all about options, and there's mine in text form.

Opinions are like ....... Everyone has one.

Foo Fighters.

Magnolia_Fan

I think Nirvana are now....seeing as though Kurt Cobain was a junkie and probably would have wound up writing really crap songs and fade off...But I'm gonna have to say Overall I think Metallica are over rated as I feel alot of there songs sound the same and I think they stole a Hendrix riff in Nothing Else Matters!!..Which makes me mad!

Ph3n0m

Since rock attained perfection in 1972, everything after that is over-rated

Lemming

Hmmmm, hard to name rock bands with any conviction, since some of the ones I'd think of have in some way contributed to the genre.

But .......

I would have to name GnR. One sterling performance of a first album followed by ever declining mediocrity with the occasional glimpse of inspiration ever since. Great band, seriously overrated though.

Nirvana would spring to mind too, as would the sex pistols (even though they're not 'rock' per-se)


Now with all that said, I can give you the name of the most overrated *band* of all time without doubt:

Oasis

HarryD

Originally posted by AngelofFire
Overrated-Slipknot,Metallica,The pixies,Megadeth.Queen,Blur

Agree with all except the Pixies..
I wudda said they're under-rated..

Liquorice

I agree with those who say Nirvana are over-rated. They were a decent enough band, they revived popular interest in rock music etc., but they weren't Gods and they didn't reinvent the genre or do anything incredible.

Metallica. They're a decent enough band, they have some good songs, but there are legions of better metal bands-better musicians, more varied music, more innovative, more melodic etc., that get no recognition.

Funeral For a Friend. Mundane rubbish. End of story.

Red Hot Chilli Peppers. A decade ago they were great. Even Californication was quite good. Then By The Way came out, and they were praised for the 'innovation' on that album. Here's a tip, lads, if you're gonna be 'innovative' and more varied in the music you create, do it well, or else stick to what you're good at.

Hole. Again, a semi-decent band, but they weren't one of the best riot grrrl groups, and bands like Babes in Toyland and Sleater-Kinney deserve more recognition than they do.

Slipknot. Maybe it's just that what I've heard isn't great, but I don't understand their appeal. Yes, there are worse bands, but come on, are the masks and the 'enigma' of hidden faces what sell?