English poetry

mayordenis

what poets are people learning for wednesday??

Oakbark

Gahh! You make it sound so close to the time!

I'm learning two woman poets - Plath and Dickinson, Hopkins, Kavanagh and Mahon. Definitely one of them to turn up, prob even two or three.

mayordenis

think that the kavanagh being born 1904 will make him a definate???

valor

Im learning Kavanagh and Dickinson inside out - and praying.

Tusky

Wordsworth and Dickinson...with Kav for backup.

DEmeant0r

Since I'm doing pass English, I'll have to learn all poems from Kavanah, Dickinsion, plath, mahon, frost, heaney, wordsworth and Hopkins, although I'd love to skip Hopkins and Wordsworth, even though their pass poems are easy it's still a pain in the arse.

PS you should probably have made the poll multiple choice

Mutant_Fruit

kavanagh, heany, hopkins and praying.

AndrewWK

Kavanagh and Dickinson. Please please please please please.

subway_ie

Dickinson. Please, God, Dickinson. She's the onyl one I know properly so far - starting to cram Hopkins, Wordsworth, Frost and Mahon. If Dickinson doesn't come up, then maybe Hopkins or Wordsworth. I'm so fukced if Dickinson doesn't come up...

claire h

I'm skipping the hoping and praying part and just doing five poets to cover myself completely. It'd be nice if Dickinson came up, though.

subway_ie

Originally posted by claire h
I'm skipping the hoping and praying part and just doing five poets to cover myself completely. It'd be nice if Dickinson came up, though.

Well, thats fine, but realisticly, there's not enough time now to get 5 poets done *thoroughly* - I've got two done properly, going to familiarise myself with 5 - 2 very well, 1 backup, and 2 just try and learn as much as I can about them in the next 4-5 days.

Suaimhneach

Plath, Dickinson, Mahon, Heaney, and Kavanagh.

Mahon as a last resort. The others I know well.

claire h

Originally posted by subway_ie
Well, thats fine, but realisticly, there's not enough time now to get 5 poets done *thoroughly*

Such negative thinking! There's 5 whole days to go!

Swifty

Dickinson, Wordsworth, Plath, Kavanagh, Heaney.

In order of how well I'd do.. but I suppose it all depends on the type of question. If Frost comes up I could scrawl something down but it would be scraping the barrel.

Kold

Dick In Son, Heaney and Kavanagh

subway_ie

Originally posted by claire h
Such negative thinking! There's 5 whole days to go!

Hmmmm. Spent 3 hours this morning doing Dickinson, Mahon and Wordsworth. Moving onto Frost and Hopkins this evening. Still have to start revising Silas Marner, Macbeth, Of Mice and Men and Things Fall Apart though... not to mention my other 6 subjects...

DS

4 days left.

Thought maybe if I typed it out it would have some meaning to me.

subway_ie

Originally posted by Discharger Snake
4 days left.

Thought maybe if I typed it out it would have some meaning to me.

I think it works better when you say "on Wednesday" - until Tuesday - then "tomorrow". Then, on Wednesday, you'll probably be feeling so fukced that you won't be able to say anything.

Stalin

Im only doing Mahon ,Dick-in-son and kavanagh...Ive only done Mahon and Kavanah in detail over the last while...But the thing about Emily is that they will have to put a female poet on for sure so i guess we could count on her....

Is it safe just to cover theme in comparative ????

subway_ie

Originally posted by Stalin
But the thing about Emily is that they will have to put a female poet on for sure so i guess we could count on her....

Is it safe just to cover theme in comparative ????

Well, Plath could come up again, there's nothing stopping them putting her on - they did it with Heaney before.

It isn't really safe to leave anything out in English - theme and literary genre are the most likely to come up, but any of them could. Plus the two questions are usually slightly different in the way they're asked - one has two parts, the other is just a straight essay.

DS

I'm pretty banjaxed if theme doesn't come up. But really, they've already shown who's boss by repeating 2 poets, they don't *really* need to pull another wanker with three CCs in a row do they?

elle

I'm doing dickenson and kavanagh in major detail and then have also covered plath heaney hopkins and frost less thoroughly, everyone is saying dickenson and kavangh so am really hoping dickenson but i think at the end of the day it's pure chance what comes up you can't really predict. they might not put it on coz they know everyone will expect it(ie kavanagh). here's hoping it works out though

Suaimhneach

Normally I would never correct someone, but this is your leaving, so for your own benifit, it's Dickinson not Dickenson!

Her and Kavanagh seem to be the most promising. Sadly. Kavanagh sucks.

elle

cheers jes but kavangh is boring yet simple. i just much prefer dicki nson coz you get much better languge use out pf a question on her. she's far more complex then kavanagh!

Suaimhneach

Np. kavanagh is just such a hipocrite like. Spends all his time talking about innocence, and yet, in his life he turned down women becuase they were too old [10 years younger than him!!!]

Dickinson is cool. I love her introverted exploration! "hope is a thing with feathers" is one of my favorite poems!

elle

i love her coz i love the use of poetry to convey her mental anguish and rollercoaster of emotions all that stuff,a bit like plath, it just makes it more interesting to study than the like of kavanagh or even heaney, inspired by life events, it's just dull and predictable!I like hopkins too, cept the refs to religion can get a bit predictable and boring to write about!Oh dear god can you believe our lives have become consumed by this stuff

Suaimhneach

Ha, never again will I have to do an english comparitive/peotry/macbeth IN MY LIFE

Hurrah! lol.

It's too much sometimes!

Smellyirishman

Ye thats really surreal, I mean after tommorrow I will never have to even think of poems! :D

Im doing Emily dicko and Mister Kavo himself!

I love emily as there is just SO much to write about, so many varying themes, the exotic punctuation and rhyme, lack of titles, the depth and challange that her poems offer, pure class!

Kananagh on the other hand is a boring old bogger :D:D:D but hes gotta be done cause im only doing the 2 :eek:

Mutant_Fruit

good ole dick-in-son, kavanagh and that feckin eejit Hopkins are my top 3. If they don't come up, i'm SSSCCRRREEEEWWEDD

Gluck all!

It'll be all i can think of not to laugh when i write about "A long fellow in the grass" That is such an innuendo.

LegacyUser

with a standard introduction to the poetry of X question, is it better to deal with five poems seperately, or to crisscross amoung them using themes as reference. The former is a lot easier.

DS

Poem by poem is the easiest way to do it, and there's nothing wrong with that as long as you relate each poem you do to the question. You only have to do 4 btw.

subway_ie

Originally posted by Smellyirishman
Ye thats really surreal, I mean after tommorrow I will never have to even think of poems! :D

Untill Irish paper two next week, when it starts all over again...

LegacyUser

only four poems?!?!? is that the minimum you can do or is that the reccomended amount? Four would suit me a lot better, but I dont want to be just doing the bare minimum

Smellyirishman

HA! failed pass irish in the mocks, dont care what I get any more! dont need it!

My point still stands lol

K well im off now to do somethine... eh... eh..... oh ye .. play games... oh no wait crap..something else....... ah im sure it will come to me

C ya all later I guess

claire h

Originally posted by pleb

only four poems?!?!? is that the minimum you can do or is that the reccomended amount? Four would suit me a lot better, but I dont want to be just doing the bare minimum

Actually, according to the Department guidelines, you're expected to be able to refer to six poems. That's just a guideline though; if you just do one poem and do it really well you'll still get the marks.

And isn't Irish Paper 2 *this* week? *grin*

Mutant_Fruit

6 is the recommended, and i would never ever go below 5. If you can do 7, thats better still.

subway_ie

Originally posted by claire h
And isn't Irish Paper 2 *this* week? *grin*

Arghhh. 'Tis indeed. Must be the auld exam stress kicking in. Plus I haven't been able to eat anything all day. Damn ESB cut our electricity *all* day. Bastards.

DS

7 poems are you mad? I hope you mean just study 7 poems, because 4 is the standard amount for answering one question. That's the ideal amount to be able to explore the question fully without having too much material to wade through to get to the point.

stuey

kavangh all the way. please i need kavangh.

Mutant_Fruit

Discharger Snake: how much are you planning on writing? 2 pages? I'm planning on 4!

conZ

I'm going for Kavanagh. I have a small bit done on Dickinson, though I suppose you could waffle your way through any of her essays with the 3 D's. I've also a small bit done on Plath. Either way, whichever comes up, I'd say i'll manage a pass.

I've a feeling Dickinson wont come up, and Plath will. I'll go 10/1 for Plath.

subway_ie

Originally posted by conZ
I've a feeling Dickinson wont come up, and Plath will. I'll go 10/1 for Plath.

Don't say that. Just don't. That's the worst possible scenario. Feck Plath, Dickinson all the way. (Wishful thinking perhaps...)

subway_ie

Originally posted by subway_ie
Don't say that. Just don't. That's the worst possible scenario. Feck Plath, Dickinson all the way. (Wishful thinking perhaps...)

Feckin bastards. Fukc them. Bastards. No Dickinson. Bitch. What the fukc are they playin' at. Fecked up my whole english exam. Bastards.

conZ

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Originally posted by conZ
I've a feeling Dickinson wont come up, and Plath will. I'll go 10/1 for Plath.

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Originally posted by subway_ie
Don't say that. Just don't. That's the worst possible scenario. Feck Plath, Dickinson all the way. (Wishful thinking perhaps...)

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10/1 Bitch.

I pissed myself laughing when I saw Kavanagh and Plath on the paper, and no sight of Dickinson.

I decided to do the Kavanagh question, and got Inniskeen Road done decent enough.
I decided to only do two poems - one in Monaghan, and one after the operation. I kept getting mixed up while doing Canal Bank Walk - mixed up with Lines Written. Only got about a page or so done on CBW.

Healio

looking at that poll it is amazing, 0 for plath 1 for hopkins, god this is a lesson for all you 5th years learn the poems dont gamble, i did it paid off, but dont do it unless ur generally a lucky person.

DS

Yeah, the moral of the story is don't gamble. Although she's an absolute DEFINITE for next year! :P

Due to her not turning up one of my friends left out poetry completely. You don't want that to happen to you.

Mutant_Fruit

Ya should all have listened to me. I learned 3 of the "more-than-likelies" (i'm the ONLY one who voted for hopkins it seems) and as a result i had two poets to choose from, Kavanagh and Hopkins.

Its over and done with now, no need to post about it (too much)

subway_ie

Originally posted by Mutant_Fruit
(i'm the ONLY one who voted for hopkins it seems)

The poll was more for what people would prefer to come up... you could only vote once, so it's not as if nobody expected him to come up.

Suaimhneach

How deadly is it that Plath and Kavanagh came up?? Shame about Dickenson, but I think most people where covered! Twasn't that bad at all at all!

Smellyirishman

LOL most votes but didnt even come up! poor emily

LegacyUser

:ninja: looking back, putting all my eggs in Kavanaghs basket was a bit stupid, but it paid off, and I did one ****ing class question. One class paper in fact. I just hope I'm this lucky with history predictions