How to Cheat in the Leaving Cert

subway_ie

Obviously, since cheating in the leaving cert is highly illegal, this thread is merely in honour of the film by the same name,How to cheat in the Leaving Cert. So, any ideas?

(The Poll was an after-thought, but it'll be interesting to see the results)

krattapopov

ive thought long and hard about this.......






cheaters are scum.

damnyanks

When I did my leaving cert (2 years ago) it wasnt hard to cheat. Most places it seemed easy enough. There is a chance you will get caught though... there is also a chance someone will rat you up (You are competeing against them for a place in college so dont put it past anyone)

Then of course you also need the bottle to do it. I'm sure its easy for some people (Natural cheats) I know if I had done it I'd of been shaking and unable to concerntrate on the actual exam.

subway_ie

Well yeah, cheating is retarded, I was just curious as to how people would actually do it. Damnyanks: you've got a good point about people ratting you up - I can think of 3 people in my year who would do it anyway, even if you weren't cheating. They've done it before in house exams.

Well, you could bring in a calculator that is actually a data storage thingie!

I have a camera watch, so I could have talking pictures of text and viewed them in the exam. But I don't cheat.

nosmo

Originally posted by David Lynch
Well, you could bring in a calculator that is actually a data storage thingie!

Don't the rules say that calculators with storage capabilities are forbidden?

GoneShootin

Cheating in the PRE leaving was a doddle. I remember laughing audibly when the lads were WALKING AROUND the tables during the Technical Drawing exam. Great times.

As for the Leaving Cert itself I reckon it would be very difficult to cheat inside the hall itself, but you would have a better chance by going to the toilets and whipping out the notes in there.

On a side note cheating in colleges is piss easy ! The toilet method above will work without fail. Honestly I have never cheated, but I have considered it many times. Especially last Monday (and I could have done with that bloody Java code then ! 15marks gone bye bye).

subway_ie

Cheating during the mocks is really easy, but TOTALLY retarded. At least if you cheat in the LC, you'll get some gain (with a huge risk of loss), but cheating in the mocks is just giving yourself a false sense of security, which, in the longterm, will probably do a lot more bad than good.

In the junior cert, people were just taking to each other during the exams (obviously the JC won't be as strict as the LC - not everywhere anyway) but it jst showed how lax some examiners can be regards cheating (plus it's a huge amount of paperwork for them if they catch somebody cheating and report them - way easier just to let them at it - I was told this by an examiner.

Tivoli

[rumour]
ladies cheat in the exams by writing the things to remember on their legs and then reading them in the jacks.
[/rumour]

suppose blokes could do it too, but would have to take a few dumps per exam which might arrouse suspicion

i remeber in irish mocks, I slipped my completed question sheet to the mate in behind me, then he coyied mine. i stoped him when he is walking up to the hand it up and gave him a blank page, to make it look like i gave him my answer book to hand up

Placebo

On a side note cheating in colleges is piss easy !

What college do you go to ?
in maynooth, they come and check your caculator, inside out, like 3 times.
theres around infinite many invgulators circleing you.

I dont think you can go to the toilet even during the exam.

as for Leaving cert, the person sitting outside follows you into to the toilet, but not the cubicle so you can flush the toilet and whip out your notes, then flush the notes down too.
But leaving cert is so broad that you`ll have to carry your entire book in your pants

DMT

Originally posted by GoneShootin
Cheating in the PRE leaving was a doddle. I remember laughing audibly when the lads were WALKING AROUND the tables during the Technical Drawing exam. Great times.

How the hell could you possibly cheat in Tech Drawing, or construction studies for that matter?

stuey

well you do you cheat in amy exam. you ask somebody whats the answer or how to do the question



What i just said makes no sense. I should have said

well how do you cheat in any exam? you ask somebody what the answer or how to do the question

GoneShootin

Originally posted by Placebo
What college do you go to ?
in maynooth, they come and check your caculator, inside out, like 3 times.
theres around infinite many invgulators circleing you.

Cork IT. They come down and check the calculator, phone, and pencil case, but they dont search your pockets. Walk to toilet, into cubicle, whip out notes, walk back with notes dispatched. Its quite possible, but totally wrong

Originally posted by Placebo
I dont think you can go to the toilet even during the exam.

Of course you can, that would be inhuman and against your rights. Blah blah blah FREE THE PEOPLE blah blah.

Originally posted by Placebo
But leaving cert is so broad that you`ll have to carry your entire book in your pants [/B]

Hehe, not really. If you've got english on the day for example and you made a good guess at the poetry quetions then all you need is little keywords to generate the **** in your head. Cheating without any study done at all is REALLY pushing it !

Originally posted by Placebo
Tech Drawing, or construction studies for that matter

As I said this was just for the pre. The teachers didnt give a **** and it was the last ten minutes of the exam at the end of all the exams. The weather was nice and there was an air of ARA WHAT THE **** about it. People were just looking behind em as calm as you like and walking to the person next to em. Twas one of those moments.

subway_ie

Originally posted by GoneShootin
As I said this was just for the pre. The teachers didnt give a **** and it was the last ten minutes of the exam at the end of all the exams. The weather was nice and there was an air of ARA WHAT THE **** about it. People were just looking behind em as calm as you like and walking to the person next to em. Twas one of those moments.

Cheating in the mocks is a total waste of time. You paid for the fecking things and (probably) studied for them too. What's the point in doing them if you can't get an accurate statement of where you are with regards revision, etc.

LegacyUser

I cheated in Maths in the leaving. I wrote all the formulas on paper and went to the toilets and read them. I had to as I did know them once but i forgot them on the day and this happenes a lot so i prepared. **** that. Thats how i passed. No doubt about it. D3 on the mark. PS: I suck at maths.

I also cheated for Geography, with notes on the countries obviously. I would write as much as I knew and then go to the toilet and check them. I mean, if they check my pockets(which would have been totally ****ing stupid), i would have said, i was using them before the exam started outside.

User45701

You all talk about the risk of cheating but always remember

"The Riskier the road the greater the proffit"

krattapopov

cheating is a shameful act, pathetic, cheaters dont deserver any respect imo

"If you cannot be shamed, you cannot be honored"

nxbyveromdwjpg

Originally posted by krattapopov
ive thought long and hard about this.......






cheaters are scum.

people who study that useless load of muck are scum.

why wouldnt you cheat if you had the bottle, if you get away with then you've earnt your marks, thats the way i see it.

I mean its not like youre ever going to need 99% of the bollox you learn for that exam ever after that day in whole life, so whats the point in actually knowing it?-... next to nothing, whats the point in getting a good mark in the exam-.. everything, a college place etc..
so hats off to the cheaters, for not wasting their lives studying ****e, but then managing to come out with a higher grade than those that did... who are the really smart ones?

krattapopov

im talking about cheaters in general not the merits of the leaving certificate

GoneShootin

Originally posted by subway_ie
Cheating in the mocks is a total waste of time. You paid for the fecking things and (probably) studied for them too. What's the point in doing them if you can't get an accurate statement of where you are with regards revision, etc.

Cos people were 17/18 at the time and couldnt give a **** ?

nxbyveromdwjpg

Originally posted by krattapopov
im talking about cheaters in general not the merits of the leaving certificate

oh right.
sorry to me the title read "...cheat in the leaving cert", not "cheaters in general"... but i can see where you got confused.
err, not .

skipn_easy

Originally posted by DMT
How the hell could you possibly cheat in Tech Drawing, or construction studies for that matter?

For the leaving cert mocks I ended up doing the girl behind me's tech drawing for her too. I'd finished early and wasn't doing anything so when she asked me how to do some question I figured it would be a lot easier to just do it for her. Then I just passed her back the sheet when the examiner wasn't looking. Have actually never cheated for my own gain though

subway_ie

Originally posted by nm
people who study that useless load of muck are scum.

why wouldnt you cheat if you had the bottle, if you get away with then you've earnt your marks, thats the way i see it.

I mean its not like youre ever going to need 99% of the bollox you learn for that exam ever after that day in whole life, so whats the point in actually knowing it?-... next to nothing, whats the point in getting a good mark in the exam-.. everything, a college place etc..
so hats off to the cheaters, for not wasting their lives studying ****e, but then managing to come out with a higher grade than those that did... who are the really smart ones?

God I hope you're not serious.... :dunno:

dangerman

so hats off to the cheaters, for not wasting their lives studying ****e, but then managing to come out with a higher grade than those that did... who are the really smart ones?

well obviously not you. If you can't see what's wrong with cheating then you kinda show what kind of person you are straight away; dishonest, cruel, selfish and lazy.

Note i'm not calling you these things, i'm just saying if you can't see whats wrong then you are the above things.

Cheating in anything is bad. I'd have difficulty being friends with someone i knew cheated, it really shows a lot about their character, i mean how completely weak it is. You're completely screwing the people who don't cheat, a college place you get denies those who were honest about it. Sick and wrong. A big fuck you to anyone who cheats or has cheated.

subway_ie

Originally posted by dangerman
Cheating in anything is bad. I'd have difficulty being friends with someone i knew cheated, it really shows a lot about their character, i mean how completely weak it is. You're completely screwing the people who don't cheat, a college place you get denies those who were honest about it. Sick and wrong. A big fuck you to anyone who cheats or has cheated.

My thoughts exactly. Plus the fact that if you haven't been/couldn't learn the stuff in the 2 years leading up to the leaving cert, and you get a college place by cheating, then you shouldn't be there. Firstly, because there are other people who are more deserving of the place, and secondly because you probably wouldn't be able for it (if you couldn't/wouldn't study for the LC, what would make college any different?).

krattapopov

Originally posted by nm
oh right.
sorry to me the title read "...cheat in the leaving cert", not "cheaters in general"... but i can see where you got confused.
err, not

regardless of the title of the thread cheaters are still cheaters no matter what exam it is and i didnt actually say cheat in the leaving cert i said i wasnt discussing the merits of the leaving cert which your post revolves around

Originally posted by nm
people who study that useless load of muck are scum.

I mean its not like youre ever going to need 99% of the bollox you learn for that exam ever after that day in whole life, so whats the point in actually knowing it?-... next to nothing

biology, technical drawing, home econnomics, accountancy, business stuides, french, english; i could go on

so if im correct what you are saying is that the knowledge that these subjects provide students is 99% useless? they are nevery going to use it again?

Originally posted by nm
so hats off to the cheaters, for not wasting their lives studying ****e, but then managing to come out with a higher grade than those that did... who are the really smart ones?

the really smart ones are the people who will do well for themselves, people who show that they can achieve something substantial in life, cheaters will always be that one step behind

wake up

Dr. Dodger

hey the fact remains

all cheaters are ****in losers, it really pisses me off why do a course if ya gonna just cheat it makes no sense all it shows is that you don't have what it takes and ya might as well go to mcdonalds cos thats where you belong and anywhere else is just out of your depth

i have no respect for any cheaters especially those who try and justify it

AndrewWK

Originally posted by Dr. Dodger
hey the fact remains

all cheaters are ****in losers

Losers with a better grade than you!

dangerman

Losers with a better grade than you!

that's what we've been saying. Way to state the obvious there.

subway_ie

Originally posted by dangerman

Originally posted by AndrewWK
Losers with a better grade than you!

that's what we've been saying. Way to state the obvious there.

No. Losers that cheat (MAY) have stolen a better grade. MAY because the fact that you cheat doesn't mean you'll get a better grade than other people. It just means that you'll get a better grade than what you should be getting. So, instead of AndrewWK or Dangerman getting 5 points in the Leaving Cert, they might get 10, or maybe even 15.
:rolleyes:

Kold

My God, why didn't anyone tell me that you could cheat in Leaving Cert Art practicals?
Anyway, writing that one formula you just can't ever remember on the side of a pencil. Oh and writing the story of a very little known comic/song/independent movie for your English paper 1. TBH the possibilities are endless. If you can beat the system, you deserve 500+ points

subway_ie

Originally posted by Kold
If you can beat the system, you deserve 500+ points

I suppose if somebody managed to steal your car/wallet/credit card/life savings, then they'd deserve it too, right?

Kold

I wouldn't count cheating in the leaving cert as harming/wronging anybody.

Funky

Originally posted by Kold
If you can beat the system, you deserve 500+ points

Amen.

subway_ie

Originally posted by Kold
I wouldn't count cheating in the leaving cert as harming/wronging anybody.

If you were deprived of your college place just because somebody cheated to get an extra 10-20 points, you wouldn't consider it as harming your future? I know I would.

Kold

Maybe you should've studied harder. I don't care, I'm using UCAS.

dangerman

Maybe you should've studied harder. I don't care, I'm using UCAS.

why are you posting then? i'm praying to baby jesus for all u people.

subway_ie

Originally posted by Kold
Maybe you should've studied harder. I don't care, I'm using UCAS.

And if you did actually study for english you would see the irony in that statement...

stuey

This thread just shows how desperate people really are. In litle over 8 hours there has been 479 views of this this thread along with 37 replies. It must be the fastest growing thread ever. Just do what Im doing - do the leaving cert the honest way.

subway_ie

Originally posted by stuey
This thread just shows how desperate people really are.

I think most of them are just desperate to avoid study at all costs. The others just think they don't need to study because they can cheat, so they just stay on here 24/7...

stuey

im here to avoid study at all costs. i cant study. have absoultly no attention span for something that doesn't interest me at all. Im deadly at the subjects im intrested in but **** at the other ones

subway_ie

Originally posted by stuey
im here to avoid study at all costs. i cant study. have absoultly no attention span for something that doesn't interest me at all. Im deadly at the subjects im intrested in but **** at the other ones

Nobody likes to study subjects they don't like... but they still have to do it. It's a bit stupid saying "I don't like this. It's too hard. I can't do it. I give up" when you're this close to the exams. The fact that you're deadly at the subects you're interested in just means you need to put more time into your weaker subjects. And soon.

stuey

its alway nice to get a bit of motivation from people. thanks subway

GoneShootin

subway_ie do you mind me asking how old are you ? I'm just wondering if you were always so sensible. Anyone that did the Leaving Cert in the last 10 years know the crazy pressure thats put on it, and I would have nothing against anyone that *considered* cheating.

Considering to cheat due to fierce pressure and not doing so because they know its wrong shows me far stronger character than someone who is always going to go by the rules.

subway_ie

GoneShootin - I'm 17, 18 end of July. Yes, I do know about the pressure leaving certs are under (since I'm a leaving cert...) and yeah, I think most people would consider cheating at some stage or another. But, I definetly don't think that people would act on it. I'm sure everybody has fantasised/thought of doing something unlawful at some point, but most would just think about it for a split second and put it out of their minds. People who actively encourage things like cheating in the leaving cert have a very messed up value system.

DS

yeah, I think most people would consider cheating at some stage or another. But, I definetly don't think that people would act on it. I'm sure everybody has fantasised/thought of doing something unlawful at some point, but most would just think about it for a split second and put it out of their minds.

If you didn't cop on to the Macbeth/Banquo parallel there get off the net and get out your english book

subway_ie

Yeah, but I don't think most people would have psycho bitch lady macbeth pushing them into it. Although I suppose some peoples mothers could be likened to her... And yes, I have been accused of being too pragmatic. More than once. But I do think that most people would have to moral strenght not to cheat. Wouldn't they?

AndrewWK

Originally posted by Kold
If you can beat the system, you deserve 500+ points

Never a truer word spoken.

claire h

Originally posted by subway_ie
But I do think that most people would have to moral strenght not to cheat. Wouldn't they?

In an ideal world, maybe.

But, okay, I can see how people might feel that the system sucks and that since they think it's unfair, it's really just evening out the playing field if they cheat. What they fail to realise is that we're all in the same boat, we're all doing the same exam, and that it'd be unfair to everyone else if they cheated - that it wouldn't be about getting one up on 'the system', but about hurting people that they actually know. I could understand something like a nationwide revolt against the exams to make a point, which would really be about attacking the system - cheating is just about personal gain.

Besides, think about how much better it'll feel to get your points from honest cramming-everything-in-the-eleven-days-beforehand rather than underhanded cheating.

And by the way, Banquo doesn't put it out of his mind. Banquo's more like a fifth year student who doesn't have to cheat just yet because he doesn't have much to gain from it, but he's prepared to let his sixth-year friend go ahead with it, and see how that goes. Little does he know that said sixth-year friend is going to hire two men to KILL HIM...

subway_ie

Those damn sixth years. Always with the murder.

Grimlock

During my french paper in my leaving cert the examiner turned his back on the class and fell asleep for 45 mins by a radiator, that would have been too easy to cheat but there were 2 or 3 people who would definitely have hung if anyone did cheat, so everyone carried on as normal.
I've never cheated, never even thought of it cos i'm the type of idiot that would get caught the 1st time I'd try. Too much to lose at too high a risk for me.
While I dislike cheaters getting college places above those didn't what RALLY pisses me of are the people who swat 24/7, regurgitate their paper get high points get into college only to realise that college is about understanding and not bruteforce learning and reguritation, so they drop out.
There must be a better system than the current rat race points system....