was this really a call for a ban?

Seraphina

the thread

i mean c'mon, so he adds in some full stops in his posts?! who cares? it may really piss etho off but there's no rules against that kind of thing and no one else has a problem with it. not exactly ban-worthy.

ixoy

A little bit harsh, but I can understand the annoyance. Given the day of moderating I've just had, however, I'm inclined to stick by a moderator who makes a point clear and then sees it ignored.

Giblet

Stupid Ban, eht0_ warning or not, stupid reason to ban someone.

Warning, next person not to post in double spacing gets banned from Bands/Musicians. Oh and if you mention Metallica, thats a banning. Looking at my shoes, now THATS a banning.

flogen

wow, thats a bit harsh.
I dont think it was at all called for, just because its abit annoying to etho_ doesnt deserve a ban at all. Its like saying you cant use !!! anymore...

...

Flogen

therecklessone

Originally posted by Giblet
Stupid Ban, eht0_ warning or not, stupid reason to ban someone.

Warning, next person not to post in double spacing gets banned from Bands/Musicians. Oh and if you mention Metallica, thats a banning. Looking at my shoes, now THATS a banning.

Talking out of turn...that's a paddling. Looking out the
window...that's a paddling. Staring at my sandals...that's a
paddling. Paddling the school canoe...ooh, you better believe
that's a paddling...

Jpaulik

That's plain crazy. To me it looks like one person is being singled out over the way they post.

Asok

Very very harsh ban your there to moderate the board, not the english language.

dahamsta

For once I agree with eth0_, that kind of careless shít can be incredibly annoying, especially when you /have/ to look at it. And it's not as if the user isn't doing it on purpose, just to try and affect some kind of pathetic coolness. Kind of ironic given the content of the actual post.

adam

d4

Harsh and a half.But he did get a couple of warnings(Unlike me in the soccer access forum )

GuanYin

ahh bad day power-tripping at its best.

Mods are there to ensure the smooth running of the boards, not to act like some 60 year old school teacher or take out their frustrations on users.

Sleipnir

That is annoying alright but a banning is taking things just a little to far.
Watch you're spelling everyone.

Draupnir

Better not put etho in charge of any Morse Code forums in the future should they happen.

eth0_

It's nothing to do with spelling or grammar. I've had a complaint about it from another user, actually, so it wasn't just me who finds the way he types annoying.

IF HE WAS TYPING LIKE THIS
r tYpIn LkE DiS AlL Dee TiM3, none of you would have a problem with me banning the user. Putting ten full stops in where a space would suffice is just as annoying/stupid/whatever.

The fact is, he was warned twice about it and he chose to ignore those warnings, so I believe i'm well within my rights to ban him for a few days.

And i'm not on any kind of power trip! I've moderated two boards for the best part of a year now and I think this is the first time i've had to ban a user.

Beruthiel

I tend to do that a lot myself....
It's just a posting style,
donno why you'd be banned for it :dunno:

dod

Whilst it doesn't bother me in the least who eth0 bans or doesn't ban, that "reason" is quite simply outrageous. And yes it does surprise me that she would act apparently so irrationally.

It's the kind of policing you would expect of an American soldier in an Iraqi prison who thinks that they're above having to answer for their behaviour.

Do the decent thing eth0.

d4

IF HE WAS TYPING LIKE THIS
r tYpIn LkE DiS AlL Dee TiM3, none of you would have a problem with me banning the user. Putting ten full stops in where a space would suffice is just as annoying/stupid/whatever.

I actually dont have a problem with that either.If it's your style then so be it.It's not like your writing in an English Exam or anything

eth0_

Originally posted by dod

It's the kind of policing you would expect of an American soldier in an Iraqi prison who thinks that they're above having to answer for their behaviour.

ahahahahahahah!

Sleipnir

Originally posted by eth0_
It's nothing to do with spelling or grammar. I've had a complaint about it from another user, actually, so it wasn't just me who finds the way he types annoying.

IF HE WAS TYPING LIKE THIS
r tYpIn LkE DiS AlL Dee TiM3, none of you would have a problem with me banning the user. Putting ten full stops in where a space would suffice is just as annoying/stupid/whatever.

The fact is, he was warned twice about it and he chose to ignore those warnings, so I believe i'm well within my rights to ban him for a few days.

And i'm not on any kind of power trip! I've moderated two boards for the best part of a year now and I think this is the first time i've had to ban a user.

So somebody's typing/punctuation irritates you and you ban them.
If somebody's opinion bothers you can you do the same presumably?
Or is it just punctuation alone?

eth0_

Originally posted by Sleipnir
So somebody's typing/punctuation irritates you and you ban them.
If somebody's opinion bothers you can you do the same presumably?
Or is it just punctuation alone?

Jesus that's a ridiculous thing to say. Of course not. Unless they're trolling or personally attacking someone i'm not about to ban someone 'for their opinion'! As i've already said, this is the first ban i've ever had to do, it's not like i'm sitting at my computer with an itchy trigger finger.

GuanYin

Its also customary to notify bans in the mod forum.

Don't see anything there.

d4

No it's Both(a bit controlling don't ya think);)

eth0_

Originally posted by syke
Its also customary to notify bans in the mod forum.

Don't see anything there.

As I said, it's the first time i've banned anyone. No one gave me any information on modding when I was given moderatorship of my two boards, which is ridiculous. How are mods supposed to follow procedures if no one tells us what those procedures are??

GuanYin

Originally posted by eth0_
As I said, it's the first time i've banned anyone. No one gave me any information on modding when I was given moderatorship of my two boards, which is ridiculous. How are mods supposed to follow procedures if no one tells us what those procedures are??

You have seen the mod forum right? There is a sticky on the top, which I guess might be worth a read. But even looking in there, its pretty obvious how it works.

Nietzschean

Remind me never to post on a board moderated by eth0....i'd be banned instantly, i always use lotsa dots for no reason...

Draupnir

Come on, get off the girls back, fair play for even taking on the moderating job though.

I can see how that would get annoying but I think the ban is harsh. But if you stand by your decision then it should stand. After all, youre the mod.

dod

Originally posted by syke
Its also customary to notify bans in the mod forum.

Don't see anything there.

You can see the post:

"Banned for excessive use of punctuation marks, and other heinous crimes against the English language."

lad12

Yeah what a F**king joke

davej

I, for one, welcome our new Grammar Police Overlords.

davej

lad12

Good aul dave

BuffyBot

r tYpIn LkE DiS AlL Dee TiM3, none of you would have a problem with me banning the user.

Sweet lord, I think I've seen it all :rolleyes:

I wouldn't ban him at all, nor even warn him actually. IF he was banned solely on the basis of putting a few dots in his message (warning or not) that has to be one of the worst reasons for banning someone I've seen in a long time.

A moderator shouldn't be there as a spelling/grammer checker, more to facilitate participation in the community and from time to time hand out the bans (when deserved). If other people have a problem with the guys postings, they should put him on ignore.

swiss

I agree fully with eth0_ and suggest that we warn/ban the following posters.

Originally posted by Asok:

Very very harsh ban your there to moderate the board

You should use the term "you're" or "you are" as opposed to the posessive pronoun "your". Banned.

Originally posted by flogen:

just because its abit annoying to etho_

The correct usage would be "a bit", not "abit" unless you're referring to a motherboard manufacturer. Let me show you the door.

Originally posted by dahamsta

And it's not as if the user isn't doing it on purpose

It is gramatically incorrect to start a sentence with a co-ordinating conjunction such as "and" (yes I did have to google that). Hope you've enjoyed your stay.

I could go on but I hope you see my point. There are probably a few grammatical errors on my part in this post. Should I be banned? If you're contending that you warned the poster first, then fine. I'll warn all of the above individuals (and myself) that any further transgressions of the kind I've indicated above will result in a ban. What the hell. I'll give them two warnings, since I'm feeling magnanimous.

Now, if the poster was deliberately making his posts illegible, possibly for the purposes of trolling, then your ban might have been warranted. However, I see no evidence of that.

dod

Don't say you haven't been warned, Swiss.

ZENER

IF HE WAS TYPING LIKE THIS
r tYpIn LkE DiS AlL Dee TiM3, none of you would have a problem with me banning the user. Putting ten full stops in where a space would suffice is just as annoying/stupid/whatever

Totally agree - not that it's a banning offence but surely it's not such difficult chore to post legibly for a few lines of text. I don't wish to sound like an old fogey but I always had a problem reading text messages written in such manner, there are even posters here who type like that !!! Why ?

Anyway he/she was warned twice and was banned - take it like a man !

ZEN

SheroN

jesus give etho a break, it's only a temp ban, not an execution.

lad12

A ban is a BAN....I know all about them...
Typing ban....MY ARSE

Stark

Yes he can curl up with a good book on English grammar for the week (Damn now there's my one smiley quota used up and I wanted to put a wink at the end of this statement).

I kind of agree with _eth0, harse as it is, if someone can't be arsed posting in a legible style and not pisssing people off, then a week's ban could be just the ticket to knock some sense into them.

eth0_

Originally posted by lad12
A ban is a BAN....I know all about them...
Typing ban....MY ARSE

Now I can see what was meant when you were denied access to the soccer forum for being a 'disruptive influence'.

Go join another crusade, champ :-)))))

Rabies

Its only a week ban. Not long at all.

BuffyBot

So, someone is a bad typist.

People could be encouraged to ignore the person in question if they are annoyed, rather than banning someone just because they used more than a few punctuation marks.

Hellrazer

Ethos dead right to ban Teddi.
Very annoying all those dots etc.

Personally I thought that it was the start of a troll when I read it first.

dahamsta

Bad typist my hole, that poster was obviously doing it on purpose to be "kewl". Like those wankstains that do de txt ting on Boards, which is also incredibly annoying. They should have their mobile phones forcibly inserted up their arses.

adam

TUTS

Not trying to get on band wagon. My ex used to txt like that, and e-mail. Its fairly normal. I do it all the time, tried so hard not to do it in this post just so u wouldnt think i was taking the piss. Its just a habit, maybe not good one. But who are you to decide how some one texts, posts, e-mails or whatever else. Im not attacking anyone here either but "i" just think its a bit hard to break a habit once told..it takes
a little time. That said im not going to stop txting, mail, or even posting like i've always done cause its my choice to type like that. Its a different story if you stated clearly that you wanted proper grammar..punc.. and so on, no slang, or whatever else takes your fancy, i dont think this is what boards.ie is about. I could be wrong and if i am you might as well add all of the above to the Charter.

TuTs

ZENER

I think mobile phones have a lot to answer for, I was shocked last year when the news glorified some young exam student in the UK for writing her whole exam in SMS style.

Of course the point with SMS texts was the 160 character limit and the fiddley 0-9 keypad so you couold possibly make a point for it but not when you have a full qwerty keyboard and unlimited characters.

ZEN

dahamsta

Originally posted by TUTS
who are you to decide how some one texts, posts, e-mails or whatever else

I'm not anyone to "decide". However I reserve the right to express the view that people that use SMS shortcuts in their posts on a web-based bulletin board are incredibly stupid and/or lazy and/or vain.

adam

TUTS

Originally posted by dahamsta
I'm not anyone to "decide". However I reserve the right to express the view that people that use SMS shortcuts in their posts on a web-based bulletin board are incredibly stupid and/or lazy and/or vain.

adam

Thats fine. Its your view, i cant change that. Everyone's different, its what makes life
what it is, no one is the same. (thankfully)

However I reserve the right to express the view that people that use SMS shortcuts in their posts on a web-based bulletin board are incredibly stupid and/or lazy and/or vain.

You seem fairly intelligent?. How are you able to write something like that, what can you base this on, how are you able to judge? Its like saying that guy is an idiot cause he wears a blue jumper all the time. He chooses to wear it? You cant take that away from him. It doesnt make him an idiot though.

TwoShedsJackson

Anyone who types in SMS style is stupid and lazy. It doesn't look 'cool', it makes you look like a mong that doesn't understand English. Is your time so precious that spending an extra twenty seconds on the post so that it's actually comprehensible is too much for you?

zAbbo

Good call on the ban, also banning people for not breaking up their posts with some line breaks is another thing I hate.

Ryvita

Originally posted by Beruthiel
I tend to do that a lot myself....
It's just a posting style,
donno why you'd be banned for it :dunno:

Yeah I'm the same. It's kind of a way of ... emphasising a point.
Or .... em .... implying that you are thinking over something.

Salubri

The question should not be whether eth0_ should have banned the user for the constant use of ...... If there is one thing I have learned abouts bulletin boards and online communities in general (which I do, having been online over 13 years) it is that you don't piss off the mods / admins.
If you are warned (I don't know personally if the user was or not but eth0_ mentioned warnings) not to do something, you don't do it. If you think it's unfair or have a complaint - there is ALWAYS somewhere like this where these things can be discussed or brought to the attention of whoever is in a position to do something about it. Even replying to eth0_'s first warning and asking why might have been enough to make her realise that the user didn't even see that they were doing something wrong.
Flagrantly ignoring your mods is wrong and will lead to banning anywhere I've been online. Let one person do it and you lose all justifiable grounds for bannings in the future. "You didn't punnish X when he continued doing what you said not to - why ban me? You're picking on me!" etc etc...
Fair play eth0_ modding is a pain in the rear! Maybe you should have a chat with some other mods / admins about how to formally warn a user or notify admins of a banning etc - but in the main you must be doing a good job or you wouldn't still be there after 2 years!

Lainey

Originally posted by TwoShedsJackson
Anyone who types in SMS style is stupid and lazy.

maybe its just a habit.. some people type that way cos they so used to it..

Salubri

Originally posted by dod
Whilst it doesn't bother me in the least who eth0 bans or doesn't ban, that "reason" is quite simply outrageous. And yes it does surprise me that she would act apparently so irrationally.

It's the kind of policing you would expect of an American soldier in an Iraqi prison who thinks that they're above having to answer for their behaviour.

Do the decent thing eth0.

Low comment. This kind of thing makes me seethe... Cop on and have a bit of respect. That's the kind of propagandist, heart string tugging comparison that politicians and the media use to smear anyone who behaves in a way they don't like.
Shame on you.