Ahern to address Eurovision sham ?

thejollyrodger

Eurovision just another example of corruption in the E.U where the pathetic biased voting is now worse than ever. This country has came second last and obviously the show needs major reform !

I want Bertie Ahern to address this at the next EU summit or at the EU parliment...

so is everyone like, as pissed as i am ?

Raskolnikov

Originally posted by thejollyrodger
as pissed as i am ?

I'm utterly blind with rage.

Zombrex

sweet mother of god I hope this isn't a serious poll

gandalf

Moving this to Television. The Eurovision has always been a shame :rolleyes:

seamus

Originally posted by thejollyrodger
so is everyone like, as pissed as i am ?

Yes, I'm marginally drunk.

It's not a big deal tbh. To me, it would seem that a lot of the newer countries would be interested in political voting, being much poorer and more interesting in neighbour relations than the actuall competition itself.
Most of "Old Europe" would be less likely to pander to such things (although it still exists to a slight extent) because we're quite comfortable in our position.

mike65

It a good enougg reson to vote dwon the EU constution
referennm whenioyts held..........burp.

mIe

The Real B-man

What a load of tree hugging hippy crap

radiospan

It's only the Eurovision. Is this actually a serious poll?

I don't think "Ah, but look at the Eurovision" would stand up as a very good anti-EU argument.

BuffyBot

Yes..down with this sort of thing, etc etc

Karl Hungus

Originally posted by thejollyrodger
I want Bertie Ahern to address this at the next EU summit or at the EU parliment...

Yes! Because every time Ireland purposely sabotages its chances at winning the eurovision (And don't think they're not doing exactly that) by putting such a talantless waste of flesh on stage as some kind of musical act, Bertie should run crying to the EU over unfair treatment. Perhaps he should have an entourage that tells him when to play the race card, or plead insanity?

The sad lump that was supposedly representing Ireland as a nation was completely pathetic, even compared to the rest of the retards they scraped together from the lower bowels of humanity and pranced about on stage just to please some old Grannys in Carlow who'd die of shock if they didn't have their annual bunch of failed Eurotrash guests attempting to "Sing" and "Dance" like the drunken village idiots they are.

I firmly beleive that all eurovision viewers should be shot in the face.

sceptre

Originally posted by thejollyrodger
Eurovision just another example of corruption in the E.U where the pathetic biased voting is now worse than ever. This country has came second last and obviously the show needs major reform !

Indeed. But for those Irish types in the UK phoning in, we'd have come last. There's obviously some kind of corruption going on when those immigrants in the island to the east of us can swing something like that.

RicardoSmith

How come some countries in Europe aren't in it, and some countries which aren't in Europe are in it?

Kain

Originally posted by thejollyrodger
Eurovision just another example of corruption in the E.U where the pathetic biased voting is now worse than ever. This country has came second last and obviously the show needs major reform !

No, we just need to sing better song's thats all. And it's only a ****ing singing contest, why the hell do we have to get the government involved?

clearz

Originally posted by Wicknight
sweet mother of god I hope this isn't a serious poll

LOL

sceptre

Originally posted by RicardoSmith
How come some countries in Europe aren't in it, and some countries which aren't in Europe are in it?

All members of the European Broadcasting Union can enter (though you don't have to). Presumably there are a few European countries that don't have a station with membership while there are a few non-European states like Israel and Cyprus (and almost all of Turkey) that have paid their sub fees. Cyprus and Turkey just like being European whereas Israel has no-one to talk to over there.

blobert

I don't think there's really that much of a problem.

The country with the most attractive and scantily clad women tends to win- surely this makes sense.

While Ireland continues to enter middle of the road ballads they cannot possibly do well.

That said, I don't know who won.

I asume it was Greece.

I wish I had a suit that ripped in half when women grabbed me....

bizmark

I can see the headlines now "Ireland to brake away from Eu in eurovision bust up" .......

Come on once you have people who watch Pop-crap pick our singer/song you know where not going to win

Elmo

The unfortunate thing about the whole eurovision is that Next year who ever they get to sing the song will have to sing it twice thus ruining any chance of a career in the music industry.

Zena Warrior Princess is very talented isn't she

halkar

I enjoyed it so keep the crap as it is
Now go and watch Irish song and after that watch Ukranian and see the reason why we got almost no votes

Elmo

The sad lump that was supposedly representing Ireland as a nation was completely pathetic, even compared to the rest of the retards they scraped together from the lower bowels of humanity and pranced about on stage just to please some old Grannys in Carlow who'd die of shock if they didn't have their annual bunch of failed Eurotrash guests attempting to "Sing" and "Dance" like the drunken village idiots they are.

For godsake we only lost the eurovision.

Do you honestly think the rest of the eurovision song were better then Chris Dorans. Because IMO all were pathetic.

I firmly beleive that all eurovision viewers should be shot in the face.

Ah come on that would only solve the the population problem that europe has. We would still have the eurovision.

the bullets would be better used by shooting the organisers in the face. And who ever though a semi final was a good idea should be given the first bullet.

Thank you.

DMC

Oh God, lol. Fantastic trolling.

Sarky

Watching the show causes me actual physical pain.

Watching Ireland's "performance" causes me to yearn for the sweet embrace of the grave.

I can assure you, nobody was more shocked than I was to learn that Europe is NOT mostly comprised of teenage Irish girls with no taste. What were those foreigners thinking, writing songs that would appeal to most of Europe? Don't they realise that Ireland won the Eurovision several times!? Don't they know that boyband chic is all the rage in Ennis, and therefore should be worldwide!?

herbie747

People still watch that crap? Losers.

Pigman II

I think we should actively support and encourage this kind of spectacular failure at Eurovision in future. IMHO The litmus test that you've finally evolved as a European nation is that you no longer take stuff like this seriously because your society has finally got other more interesting things going for it.

The big nations like UK/France/Germany are unfortunate in that they HAVE to appear on this show but us as a small nation have the 'option' of missing out on qualification every year - if properly engineered.

Just like Hitlers holocaust & war in Europe in the 1930's-40's we in Ireland have commited several atrocities against our European neightbours with our competition winning entries between (circa) 1987-1995. Now like Germany we must learn from our mistakes and make sure our shameful legacy is not passed on to our children.

Draupnir

Im not to bothered, I had a tenner on Ukraine at 3/1 so thatll do nicely. However, I was hoping Cyprus would get into top 4 as I had a fiver on them at 8/1 each way.

we really should cop on and enter a decent performer soon though and even I was a bit peeved at the Bloc voting and all that crap.

But then I noticed something odd. Its generally the Balkan and Baltic states that do the bloc voting for all the neighbours jazz. But last year the song from Turkey won and that was by far the best, and this year the Ukraine won witht the best song, with Greece coming second with the second best song and neither got any more neighbour votes than we did to get 7 points.

So my point is that it seems, in spite of the blatant cheating, the best songs tend to do very well anyway while brutal crap like Chris "Joe Dolan/Sonny Knowles" Doran gets 0 apart from what the paddies in Ireland voted in for him.

smoke.me.a.kipper

its worth the block voting just to hear terry wogan giving out about it.

Draupnir

You know, thats probably true! My favourite last night was:

"Istanbul has a population of about 3 million, how they all arent killed on the roads Ill never know".

lee_baby_simms

Originally posted by smoke-me-a-kipper
its worth the block voting just to hear terry wogan giving out about it.

here here! terry wogan is the golden cashew nestled in a cheap bag of monkey nuts.

Come to think of it he has a nut allergy i believe.

Anyway, it seems the only way to win Eurovision is to reflect the music, culture and heritage of your nation which erm... i'll sit on the fence...

Just read a magic Chris Doran quote from waterford news website:

“The only thing I am worried about is the voting,” he said.:eek:

hahaha!!!

Sev

In all fairness tho, we gave the UK the highest vote they got and the UK gave us the highest vote we got. Yes theres a certain element of corruption, but a lot of it is down to culture and the like. The UK and Irish music industry is very tied, big names in Irish music are big names in UK music and vice versa. Likewise I'd imagine the same for Greek and Cyprian music.

lee_baby_simms

Originally posted by Sev
The UK and Irish music industry is very tied, big names in Irish music are big names in UK music and vice versa. Likewise I'd imagine the same for Greek and Cyprian music.

This is true. Its all about demographics really. The ukraine has a whopping 50 million and its neighbour poland weighs in at a hefty 38 million.
thats a lot of texting fingers...

BuffyBot

The only thing I am worried about is the voting

Well, at least he was put out of his misery quite early on...

Cork

In fairness, Chris Doran did well. He has a good voice. But music has moved on from the ballad.

Blame has to go to RTE, Linda Martin, Louis Walsh and Phil Coulter. The Euro Star TV format has failed.

Last year - the twins should have been selected. This yeat Jean Elliott should have won. They would have sang 3 minute pop tunes. Ballads with backing singers are old fashioned.

RTE needs to revent to old style SONG contests. Where composers submitt tunes and select singers.

RTE got carried away with "Euro Star" as an Irish version of shows like Pop Idol and Fame Academy.

RTE, Linda Martin, Louis Walsh and Phil Coulter?

Come on?

mike65

The ballard crap is a rut the irish organisers seem to have got stuck in but the real key to future success is
to move Rep of Ireland to the Adriatic coast....actually
its all worked out well for RTE, they make a mint on the format then sit back as the winner fails to make any impact in the main competiton and so does'nt have to worry about the cost of staging it! Purfect.

Mike.

lee_baby_simms

well its workin for this man:

http://www.jameskilbane.net

aahahahaha!! i havent laughed this much in ages!

Fuhrio

Why would anyone care this much about this crap. Ireland did crap cos we had that dub pop idol type competition thing. If you want us to win, play some old irish folk song or whaever, they always lap it up.



its too stupid to care about though.

daveJAM

Something tells me that the EU have nothing to do with the Eurovision so I think change might be ever so slightly outside of Bertie's grasp. Could be wrong tho. After all, I havent watched the thing in quite a few years but from what I recall the countries of the EU were never the same as the ones that took part in the Eurovision.

It's funny listening to the radio in Waterford. Yesterday, the Eurovision was a song competition, today, it's a "political sham". It's amazing how hypocritical people can be when things don't go their way.

Besides, I think we're all losing sight of what the Eurovision is all about. Listening to the commentators take the piss out of their foreign counterparts.

MisterAnarchy

The best 4 songs finished in the top six.
Ukraine,Greece,Cyprus and Sweden.
So the judging system is fair.
The Irish song was atrocious and when I heard all the other songs the Father Ted eurovision sketch surfaced in my mind.
A pity Ireland werent relegated as there could be no new series of that so called talent show ,'You are a Star,
Should now be called 'Youre a Disgrace'

emertoff

Was it just me or did Chris Doran appear to have been drinking some of grandma's old cough medicine before he went on because he looked a bit sozzled? Or else he was on the sunbed all week and missed rehearsals because he looked half normal singing on the Late Late last week. That and the fact that his jacket had first communion overtones so surely RTE were doing their best to avoid even a hint of success.
Where the hell would we have hosted it anyway? It couldn't have been The Point again with its 3,000 capacity when you see the huge arenas the rest of Europe has to offer.
The best song won IMO and the sooner we stop sending cheesy ballads the better. Would do much more with a half-naked colleen singing as Gaeilge and doing some Irish dancing in the future.

irishgeo

Havent laughed as much in ages.

Dont know how the song "In the Disco" got any votes it was shocking thought Greece would win it myself.

RTé are laughing i mean your a star racking in a fortune and no a change of winning the Eurovision again.

Chris Doran should be smuggled into the country.

Was the norway song before us with the blonde geezer trying to sing.

No wonder we lost.

Wogan is class with the quick wips.Missed him in the voting as i was in the pub.

lodgepole

Originally posted by emertoff
It couldn't have been The Point again with its 3,000 capacity when you see the huge arenas the rest of Europe has to offer.

It holds 8000 people.

MisterAnarchy

http://www.euro-tnt.com/
Good site here .
This is what the site said about Irelands chances:
WHAT'S ANOTHER PIECE OF TRASH FROM IRELAND

The irish do as they are told. They choose another ballad that is bound to put europeans asleep. Well done Ireland ! You presented the worst national final EVER this year. That is really impressive. RTE: PLEASE do something to raise the quality of your selection. It is not enough that Bryan McFadden has composed the song, as long as it is a piece of crap. I hope he did not leave Westlife to pursue a career in composing ?

Couldnt put it better myself.

lee_baby_simms

yeah but its still a kip. the point that is.

TCamen

Ireland's entry was ****e, that's why we got one vote. Nothing else to it imo. The whole thing is a silly competition, but the more entertaining entries did better than us. Sour grapes much?
I was so happy when I thought that we were eliminated altogether from competing next year. Apparently there's still a Semi Final we have to compete in before the Final?

So that means more 'You're A Star' :mad:
Aren't the last 2 years, when we had 'You're A Star' the worst entries we've had in the past while?
Tweenies voting for Westlife ****e ballads sung by 'cute' boys over the sorta songs the Eurovision is currently all about i.e uptempo songs about nothing in particular w/ a dance routine. RTE really should be stopped from putting on this drivel! Jean Elliott would've gotten more votes with that song about the rain going drip drip drip....

By the time Ireland sends over a big dance routine entry, the contest will have swung back in favour of ballads and we'll still do ****e.

EKRIUQ

Its not a conspiracy from other nations, Our entrant in this years show was just crap

We should of learn't last year that were now in the age of tele voting and its the performance that matters and Byran Mcfatten isn't a good song writer

parasite

Originally posted by lee_baby_simms
well its workin for this man:

http://www.jameskilbane.net

aahahahaha!! i havent laughed this much in ages!

bwahahahaa !!!

"'This man can sing' - TV Now"

i'm off to sign james1kilbane@eircom.net up to some wolverine porn spam, there probably is such a thing ...

Elmo

Yeah I think You're a Star takes a break

I do think the have found some very talented people on the show.

I think we will here more from Mickey Jo and from that Dublin Lad what's his name?

Agent Orange

We need a hot chick singing for us, like the Ukrainians had.

Deirdre O'Kane?

Emboss

we don't need hot chicks at all at all just some hot lyrics like these

Day-na-day-na Wanna be loved
Day-na Gonna take my wild chances
Day-na-day-na Freedom above
Day-na-da-na-da I’m wild ‘n’ dancing

He-e-e-ey!

Dance forever, come and be mine,
Dance together, till the end of time
Dance together go, go, go wild dancers!!

Day-na-day-na Wanna be loved
Day-na Gonna take my wild chances
Day-na-day-na Freedom above
Day-na-da-na-da I’m wild ‘n’ dancing


down with this sort of thing!

banquo

we don't need hot chicks at all at all just some hot lyrics like these

you are the king.



When, after hearing Ukraine's song, and then the news that they had won, there was but one question on my mind:

WHAT THE FCUK, HUH?! I MEAN, WHAT THE FCUKING FCUK!!?!?



that is all.

BuffyBot

WHAT THE FCUK, HUH?! I MEAN, WHAT THE FCUKING FCUK!!?!?

Chicks, leather, whips - a whole Xena thing going on. Obviously a winner.

lee_baby_simms

Originally posted by Agent Orange
We need a hot chick singing for us, like the Ukrainians had.

Deirdre O'Kane?

lol