The Knot

Sefrian

do the knot still have it or have they lost it....
Like i like Duality but i kinda feel they mite be losin it

Fozzy

Can't say I've ever really liked Slipknot, but this new song is definitely their best in my view. It'll be interesting to hear the rest of the album.

Gonzo

imo they lost it with IOWA and this new song aint any different.

Töpher

They lost it with their self titled album. Mate.Feed.Kill.Repeat was a good EP though. Funky shít.

dregin

I agree. They lost it with IOWA. Liked their S/T. Haven't heard the first EP tho.

hostyle

I dunno. The new album is rather mellow compared to their previous ones, but I prefer it. Maybe I'm getting old.

Whywontitwrok

There movin on and expanding , they havent lost anythin. At least they aint sitting around going stale bringing out the same stuff every time. Have you heard pulse of the maggots or welcome??? Two very different songs to duality.

Duality will make slipknot more acceptable to new people I think It will ease people in and "Hard-core" fans wont like that I think.

Personally I think all the albums have been great and I cant wait to get my hands on this one.

Oh and I meet corey and got my guitar singed by joey

Töpher

Slipknot has no "Hard Core" (as you put it) fans, apart from a small number, many of their fans were captured by Wait and Bleed, which was essentially a pop song, by people in masks and jumpsuits. Their self-titled started off ok, but got weaker as the album progressed, except for Prosthetics and Purity (which was stopped printing shortly afterwards due to legal reasons). MFKR was the only good thing they really did, after that Ross Robinson got his grubby little fingers into them...

Whywontitwrok

LOL no hard core fans? I doubt it!! Talk to the guys at comeplaydying and im sure they will disagree!!

I am well aware of the legal reasons of why the songs were removed and I would agree that the album got weaker as it came towards the end of the album. But to say that MFKR was thier only good album?!! Thats crazy! I fail to see how you could disregard all their other albums if you like MFKR ( with the exception of S/T beginning few songs )

Well Im just glad they havent worn off on me as easily as They have on other people and I have been continually impressed by all of thier albums , although Im not sure about this one yet but I still like it.

Perhaps you liked MFKR more because of Paul`s involvment? Much bigger bass sound in that album than any of the newer ones.

But I respect your opinion and can see where your coming from ( except the part about wait and bleed being a pop song :rolleyes: , It was one of the lighter and more acceptable songs yes so it was aired, that doesnt make it poppy(<is that right?) )

Töpher

It was essentially a pop song is what I said. Menaing not quite, but close to being a pop song. It was mellow, no problem there, but the song structure and everything else was just pants, and little kids everywhere loved it.

MFKR had early versions of Only One and (SIC) on it, listening to the different versions I can still safely say I MUCH prefer the MFKR versions. Which combined with my opinion on the album getting weaker as it goes on, means in my opinion I can say thats where they lost it.

As for hardcore fans, no matter how much they say it, a 10 year old in a hoody who doesn't like his mum and dad isn't hardcore! Lol, I jest (even tho I'm also serious, :rolleyes: ). From experience, I have to say that anyone who was REALLY into that band, just thought they were mad and tried really hard to come across as a mad metaller and it was just comical to say the least. And thats without bringing central bankers into the equation! The only tring hardcore can mean in this sense is their passion and support for the band, cuz the people most definately (for the most part) are not.

Will the guys at comeplaydying tell me they're mad, smoke weed and drink, and cut themselves listening to the 'Knot? Need I go on...?

I love joke bands as much as the next person, Green Jelly are gods, Slipknot just lost everything good they had going in the MFKR era in my opinion, and became a joke band accidentally.

Also, the earlier singer could not sing as well as Cory, easy to admit to that, but after MFKR they added 3 new members to take the numbers from 6 to 9, and there's nto really anything there to show for it. Madness.

Whywontitwrok

Lol yes lets not speak of the central bankers!! what a pack of twats

No the guys at comeplaydying are not like that at all the respect slipknot for changing thier style with each album (to a lesser extent with IOWA), they do not go around talking bull**** about how they worship the devil yet think catholism doesnt exist

Yes I must agree corey is a much better singer than anders , much more range.

Karl Hungus

Originally posted by Whywontitwrok
they do not go around talking bull**** about how they worship the devil yet think catholism doesnt exist

I think that statement is a little, erm... odd.
Catholism being quite easily one of the largest world-wide religion (If not the largest), I don't see how anyone could think that it doesn't exist!? Or for that matter, presume that someone else thinks it doesn't exist.

So with that quite an impossibility, I think you mean to say God doesn't exist.
Would I be right in presuming so?

Anyway, if you were to look at Satanism, or more accurately, the Anton LeVey school of Satanism, a belief in any gods or higher powers whatsoever isn't required. That includes Satan himself. Quite a paradox it seems, but go read about it, it actually makes quite a bit of sense.

As for Slipknot?
Terrible band altogether.

EpYon

and well slipknot still have its there just a bit different thats all but yes they still have it !!!!:ninja:

Töpher

The Anton LaVey ideas were always interesting to say the least. Makes quite a lot of sense too, if you think about it.

eth0_

I think the new slipknot song is pretty good, although they were really awful when they performed it on Jay Leno's show last night!

Slipknot don't have a massive core of fans in this country. This is why their last Irish gig was cancelled, due to low ticket sales.

Whywontitwrok

Anton LaVey , yes some good ideas but doesnt claim to worship satan, although its easy to see why he was branded

Kids that say that catholicism means nothing and they worship the devil , dont realise that the devil only exsists because of "god". The devil is the temptation to do evil he is almost the foil of god. Those idiot kids that say they dont think a god could ever exist but "worship" the devil are idiots! Thats all I was really saying

Anyway starting to get OT so,

I like slipknot , you dont(with exception of MFKR) I still think they got it , you dont. Lets end it

garthv

Lol yes lets not speak of the central bankers!! what a pack of twats

Shut Up,
I used to be a central banker,
best years of my life,
opened my eyes to a ****load more than i expected

Whywontitwrok

K maybe a little stereotypical but most of the peopl(from personal experience) around there are sensless and they just want to fit in in a "different" way! They all just end up being the same. I Used to hang with people who would hang around there and I never liked it. Everyone was sadder(in a boo hoo and loser way) than the next person and didnt wanna be looked at, But at the same time all they wanted was your attetion.

Im sure there are some good ones but from my experience they have all been fools:D
Some of the older ones especially can be better but at the same time some of the older ones are the worst ones!

hostyle

Originally posted by Whywontitwrok
Kids that say that catholicism means nothing and they worship the devil , dont realise that the devil only exsists because of "god". The devil is the temptation to do evil he is almost the foil of god. Those idiot kids that say they dont think a god could ever exist but "worship" the devil are idiots!

Stop pigeonholing others into your outdated belief system. Religion is an idea created by humans. Any other human can create his/her own idea, and his/her own religion - ergo, they can create their own belief system where there is no "god", but there is a "devil".

mayordenis

i claim to have a somewhat oldschool taste but i must say that i quite like slipknot cannot wait to see em.:D

xx

Originally posted by mayordenis
i claim to have a somewhat oldschool taste but i must say that i quite like slipknot cannot wait to see em.:D

I seen 'em live before. I don't think you'll be disappointed. Even the hardcore metallica fans might be in for a surprise.

nosmo

Don't like the new song.. But then again, I didn't really like Iowa, Sorta liked the ST for some songs, but it grated a bit, even then.
The chorus is the worst bit of the song.. not extremely musically dynamic or anything is it

evad_lhorg

me personally i dont like slipknot. I liked wait and bleed and then left behind but i just hated what they did. i got the new album yesterday and i must say it is a lot better. there is two acoustic songs on it and one called 'vermillion pt2'and its really good. an there is a few solos on here too. not amazing but its always good to hear a bit of shredding these days withouthaving to go listen to zak wylde or some bender like that. the new stuff is by far better than the old.

David-[RLD]-

Yeah Slipknot still have it. I've been impressed with every album so far and their music is incredibly heavy and original.

plastic_axe

the new album rules and there aint no denying it.

they are playing around with their sound more and i think it has probably added some stability to the group.

theyll be around for a while.

Töpher

Didn't they announce before they recorded this that it was to be their last one...?

Seriously.

Placebo

Slipknot has no "Hard Core" (as you put it) fans, apart from a small number, many of their fans were captured by Wait and Bleed, which was essentially a pop song, by people in masks and jumpsuits. Their self-titled started off ok, but got weaker as the album progressed, except for Prosthetics and Purity (which was stopped printing shortly afterwards due to legal reasons). MFKR was the only good thing they really did, after that Ross Robinson got his grubby little fingers into them...

wow, youre so underground man, so hardcore !

The Real B-man

like duality but the rest of there "music" cant understand a word there saying but good for moshing with your mates "not a gang bang before you ask"

Tommy Vercetti

they never had it and never will

nosmo

Originally posted by Einstürzende
Didn't they announce before they recorded this that it was to be their last one...?

Seriously.

They said that before Iowa too. =/

Whywontitwrok

" SLIPKNOT drummer Joey Jordison spoke about whether the group will be able to stay together long enough to record the follow-up to their forthcoming CD, "Vol. 3: (The Subliminal Tapes)". "We're going to make it through this tour," Jordison said. "And I'm thinking we're going to make another record. I know [singer] Corey [Taylor] probably said some things [in the past about the band breaking up] that were a little bit misconstrued at the time, and he doesn't feel like that anymore "

There ya go

If you listen to the songs you can easily hear what he is saying. I can sing all song by heart and I have never read a lyric sheet ( not bragging just hate it when people say ya cant hear him he s just scream "KILL YOUR FAMILY AND KIDS AND EVERYONE SHOULD DIE" !!) , oh just to make sure I dont know 100% of all songs

Anyway nice to c some more people supporting slipknot, I cant wait till tuesday :D:D

Zoton

Personally i think their debut was pretty good. Not fantastic, but it did have some great tracks, such as surfacing. Iowa was an overall much better record, with better writing and more experimentation (just listen to the closing track). I'm looking forward to see what they've done with vol. 3

Fozzy

One of my friends, who generally hasn't been into Slipknot but liked Duality, got their album on Saturday, and he says it's really really good. He's got a very good taste in music, and he said that Vermillion part 2 is probably the best song, it's acoustic. I'm interested in hearing some more of the stuff now.

eth0_

Originally posted by Placebo
wow, youre so underground man, so hardcore !

How does that make him hardcore? He's 100% right, I reckon if it hadn't been for 'wait and bleed' they wouldn't have such a large, moronic band of <strike>retarded little 12 year old spooky kids</strike> 'maggots', who are mostly only into them because it offends their parents. And please, kids, don't write back to this complaining 'OMG I LUV COREY LYRICSSSS!! THEY ARE SO EMOTIONAL AND KEWL!', it's true, most of you only like them because it pisses off yr parents. I was 12 once :-/

Whywontitwrok

YE its a pretty cool album alright, very different tho, still roxors your boxors tho

Hey im into slipknot but It doesnt offend my parents AT ALL, Im 17 and choose what I like because I like it!! To think we are so shallow just because we like a band is a stupid attitude from a mod of all people

Some of the good songs on the new album are centainly the two acustic ones (circle, and vermillion prt 2) then there is welcome,pulse of the maggots, the blister exists, three nil and duality. To name a few . Cool album I think all fans will like SOME of it, and it will prolly attract a few new fans

Sefrian

aH Dennis didnt expect to find you on my thread Howya btw

nesthead

listened to the whole album in hmv today.

some of the songs have some fantastic parts to them, but is ruined by following on with a terrible riff, or corey singing flat or doing his semi-rap (singing free-time)

perfect example is on the second song (cant remember what its called)
it starts brilliantly, real heavy, very much the "slipknot" sound, but then towards the end the it switches into this drum pounding thing with the "custom percussionists" who had no previous input into the song, which completely ruined it.

the other heavy songs were a mix of excellent deicide-esqe pre-chorus' and fills, rubbish nu-metal single note hammering in verses with an abundance of rests, and choruses with poor vocals (just stay growling corey ffs you cant sing!)

the all the songs on the album just merged into one, and the "light ones" ike Vermillion Pt.2 were very uninpiring.

I expected more now that it was produced by Rick Rubin, although probably we would have had another Iowa without him.

I got bored of the songs very quickly and was flicking on by the second chorus or the breakdown(i assumed theres no solos). i have still to give the album a full listening to but i got a very bad impression from what i heard

Whywontitwrok

Rick Rubin has been with them since their S/T

The song is "The blister exists" Yes the riffs are classic knot riffs real cool intro. The custom percussion is right through the song it sounds like marching band drums listen for it.The rapping is fine in this song.

IF I had to pick a song for "bad" rapping it would be "opium of the people" but even that is growing on me. I love the melody in the chorus

I am absolutly LOVING this album!! I love it so mcuh more with every loop!! A song or 2 are not my favourites but the album is almost( only marginally missing) exactly what I wanted ( infact more than what I expected in some regards with all the disappointing metal albums recently released)

And to say corey cant sing is a hideous remark! "screaming" is hard to do and he has proved with bother and circle and vermilion prt2 that he can sing all he wants

Töpher

Ross Robinson did production for their ST. Dunno bout the rest. He was the one to 'discover' them and get them a deal.

evad_lhorg

Originally posted by Fozzy
One of my friends, who generally hasn't been into Slipknot but liked Duality, got their album on Saturday, and he says it's really really good. He's got a very good taste in music, and he said that Vermillion part 2 is probably the best song, it's acoustic. I'm interested in hearing some more of the stuff now.

indeed it is fozzy, very good song.

Whywontitwrok

My apologies Einstürzende,

In my speed of writing I confuzzled the names :dunno:

EpYon

mike who is here that denis didnt expecet to find here !!!!! TELL ME R I JILL OWN YOU !!!! FOR I AM GOD :mad: i luv corys new mask its well class but whats with seans it like a big piece of **** on his face !!!! it sucks

ThrAx

I like the new song Pulse of the Maggots. A mate showed it to me the other day, its fairly class alright.

Whywontitwrok

Ye thats a cool song alright, Out of all the "new" masks I would have to say that shawn`s is the one I would like least. It just doesnt seem to "fit".

Sefrian

mike who is here that denis didnt expecet to find here !!!!! TELL ME R I JILL OWN YOU !!!! FOR I AM GOD i luv corys new mask its well class but whats with seans it like a big piece of **** on his face !!!! it sucks

He was her now he has left where he has gone i am not aware

EpYon

denis konws **** his boi ...HEy denis i saw you walking home from school today a was heading to work

Karl Hungus

What the hell does any of that have to do with anything!?

Keep all these off-topic mumblings to private message if you want to converse between yourselves...
Don't ruin a thread with it.

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Everyone else, feel free to start up a new thread on this topic again if you want.