DEFIANT question

The Admiral

Because I'm working on the design of a Starfleet ship with Maya, I'm putting together a list of systems that must be on board, just like all Starfleet vessels. I came up with something I cannot recall what it is for exactly. I've seen it on several occasions with several ships, but don't remember what it is for. I attached two pics of the Defiant and circled the round shapes on the top side of it. I guess it serves some kind of shield or transporter system.Can anyone please confirm this or tell me what it's for ?

Thanks !
The Admiral

The Admiral

Here's the second pic of the Defiant.

Jim

Escape pods?

The Admiral

Originally posted by Jimeatsmenu
Escape pods?

I'm pretty sure they're not escape pods. These round "things" also glow, which escape pods don't. Btw, escape pods usually have a diamond shape and are sitting "in" the hull, while these "things" stick out of it and emit a blueish glow.

The Admiral

maxheadroom

RCS thrusters?

bizmark

Originally posted by maxheadroom
RCS thrusters?

No bloody way

Anyway defiants Ep's are triangler so they cant be Ep's.Maybe there storage pods for the engines but why mount them exposed on the hull

The Admiral

I rendered a close up image of these round, glowing shapes. Hope it helps.

The Admiral

bizmark

Ya they could be access ports to the implus engines anti matter storage pods or something to do with the engines

The Admiral

anti matter storage pods ? Looks like that makes sense... I even begin remembering something in that way....

Thanks for the suggestion !

The Admiral

bizmark

Np

post up that ship your working on when you finish it

Tazzle

Anti-matter storage pods, exposed on the upper hull? That's a bit crazy.

bizmark

Well it wouldn’t be the anti matter pods themselves just the access port to the pods under the armored hull

User45701

Im willing to be they are doors to escape pods they open and the escape pods eject.
If you watch DS9 season 7 episode with the breen attacking chintka system you will see that the escape pods come from that area - i think

bizmark

Why would they have circular openings for triangle escape pods? ?

Woden

i'll go look it up

edit - the DS9 tech manual was not really any use as it didn't have blueprints and i can't be arsed at the moment to dig out the fact files as i'm wrecked sorry

data

The Admiral

Originally posted by User45701
Im willing to be they are doors to escape pods they open and the escape pods eject.
If you watch DS9 season 7 episode with the breen attacking chintka system you will see that the escape pods come from that area - i think

As far as I can remember from the DS9 episode "Valiant" (season 6), the escape pods used when the Valiant is being destroyed by the Dominion ship have nothing to do with these round shapes... As far as I can remember

The Admiral

User45701

hmm odd im almost certan they come from there on the defiant, why would 2 ships of the sam,e class have escape pods on different places...

bus77

Buttons.

Woden

the could be just an ablative armour cover over the escape hatches (i'm blatantly clutching at straws)

The Brigadier

They are tachyon beam emitters.....when used to fire an inverse tacyon pulse they can solve ANY situation encountered.

bizmark

Originally posted by The Brigadier
They are tachyon beam emitters.....when used to fire an inverse tacyon pulse they can solve ANY situation encountered.

Every one knows that’s the plot device located on deck 2 pff learn your star trek

NeoSlicerZ

i'd have said micro torpedo launchers.... if it was an achilles class. Oh well, probably there for visual effects :P

_Kaiser_

I'm gonna go with Impulse engine exhaust manifolds!

magick

showers?!

em since evething is so compact in that ship phazers batteries/energy storage for the foward weapon systems?

bizmark

Originally posted by magick
showers?!

em since evething is so compact in that ship phazers batteries/energy storage for the foward weapon systems?

They dont store enegry from what i know

Jim

Theres no way they are escape pods, don't even know why I thought that.

Exhausts for the warp nacles?

The Admiral

Someone told me it's an EVA access port. Now, what the hell is an EVA access port ??!!

The Admiral

The Admiral

I was looking around for other ships having these "round shapes" on the hull. The following ships seemed to have one or two or more:

Enterprise NX-01 (canon)
USS Excalibur (non-canon)
All the TMP-times ships like the Enterprise A Refit (canon), the Coeur de Lion (non-canon), all Miranda Class ships (canon), the Excelsior Class ships (canon) and the Oberth Class (canon) seem to have these features somewhere around the neck-region too !
Since (with the Enterprise A Refit) this shape is located directly above the warp core, I intend to guess that it is related to it someway....

The Admiral

ps: I attached a pic (sorry for the greyish color) of the Reliant and indicated with a red circle what I'm talking about.

shinzon

Could they be docking ports of some sort for auxiliary vehicles, like mainteance shuttles etc

Just a though

Shin

_Kaiser_

Originally posted by The Admiral
Someone told me it's an EVA access port. Now, what the hell is an EVA access port ??!!

The Admiral

EVA = Extra Vehicular Activity Possible except why so many? No need in emergency situations (as they have escape pods) and we regularly saw the Defiant docked nose first at DS9 so doubt they're used for that.

I still say its to do with the impulse engines. We know from ST6 that they need an exhaust system (hence how the Enterprise was able to track Chang's BOP while cloaked) - I dont think the Warp engines have the same..I think the nacelles can vent directly? (there was a TNG episode where the did just that if I recall right)

bizmark

Im holding to its part of the engines ......Does anyone have the DS9 tech manule lieing around ? surely that has info on the definat

I still say its to do with the impulse engines. We know from ST6 that they need an exhaust system (hence how the Enterprise was able to track Chang's BOP while cloaked) - I dont think the Warp engines have the same..I think the nacelles can vent directly? (there was a TNG episode where the did just that if I recall right)

Thats what the red glowing part of the impulse engine are? no douth the Impusle engines work on the same "shove it out the back real fast" as our rocket engines i mean look at the scimitar front faceing engines there just REALLY advanced ion/rocket engines.And ya the warp nacelles can vent warp plasma but you run the risk of frying the warp coils (bad)

Woden

yeah i've the tech manual and it does have info on the defiant but no blueprints and as best i can make out there isn't anything on what it is.

l3rian

are they cup holders?

Woden

that was my first thought as well but i thought about it a bit more i reckoned they'd need more then 8 for all the people on the ship

_Kaiser_

nah they wouldnt... just the 7 senior staff (+ 1 VIP).... the peons (I mean regular crew) don't get coffee breaks!

NeoSlicerZ

might be some helpful info here..



http://www.ussmiranda.com/ships/defiant.htm

ecksor

NeoSlicerZ

ecksor's a trekkie?

Stark

Maybe they're the mysterious toilets that we never seem to see aboard the ship?

The Admiral

Apparantly they're plasma vents !!!

Thanks to all who contributed to this very helpfull discussion ! Now I can sleep peacefully again !

Thanx guys& girls !!!

The Admiral

ps: about the suggestion of cup holders... maybe they are storage vats for Klingon Bloodwine.... wasn't Worf captain of the Defiant :dunno: ??!!

bizmark

i was right-ish!

Woden

no you weren't you where wrong, like you're always wrong ya muppet

ecksor

Seriously lads, less guessing and more research.

bizmark

Originally posted by Dataisgod
no you weren't you where wrong, like you're always wrong ya muppet

I said they where part of the engines which they are

And ecksor-Bot where did you find that image ?

Woden

interesting fact i learned tonight was that the defiant has two rear quantum torpedo launchers

bizmark

Originally posted by Dataisgod
interesting fact i learned tonight was that the defiant has two rear quantum torpedo launchers

It has 2 front q-torps and 1 rear photon torp launcher which was seen fireing in some ds9 ep where did you hear it had 2 rear faceing quantums

Woden

tis in the fact files under weapons and defensive systems

bizmark

And where are they hideing those 2 launchers......Hard core trekies cant find even one launcher at the rear of the ship (though it does have one) we have only ever seen 1 (single) photon launched from the back of the ship never a quantum and never 2

I think thats bull**** tbh the factfiles had some mistakes in it me thinks thats one of them.

Woden

either side of the bit that kinda sticks out at the back, sure there are mistakes in em, so much that they released stickers to cover over the mistakes, fixing number and whatnot, but this is in one of the kinda blueprint things clearly showing the launchers not just in the text.

saying that though they have a pic of the defiant firing something that i think looks like quantum torpeodes from the same place as i think the phasers come from i.e. either size of the nose while their blueprint doesn't have any launchers there just the phasers i think.

meh its not canon but i thought it was interesting.

bizmark

Those red glowing things on the back are the impluse engines

GayBasher

Space ship penis injectors, these are used to reproduced ships quickly in the field without the use of a space dock

Originally posted by The Admiral
Because I'm working on the design of a Starfleet ship with Maya, I'm putting together a list of systems that must be on board, just like all Starfleet vessels. I came up with something I cannot recall what it is for exactly. I've seen it on several occasions with several ships, but don't remember what it is for. I attached two pics of the Defiant and circled the round shapes on the top side of it. I guess it serves some kind of shield or transporter system.Can anyone please confirm this or tell me what it's for ?

Thanks !
The Admiral