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Friends (Beware Spoilers!!) Discuss Finale Here

  • 07-05-2004 12:40pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 235 ✭✭


    Just thought I would set up a thread to discuss the Finale of Friends broadcast in the United States last night for those who have already seen it. Hopefully this will keep spoilers away from the rest of us who plan to watch it on RTE on May 24th.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,905 ✭✭✭User45701


    The last episode was good but it was always going to be a let down, it is so hard to end a TV show, even what charactor gets the last word is such a HUGE decision.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,464 ✭✭✭daveyjoe


    Personally I thought the finale was crap, but then I thought the whole series was crap, They kept the show alive for too long.

    Some of the older seasons were good, but this season has been badly written, poorly acted and dull. Also I must mention the laughter track on friends is atrocious, I'm not much of a fan of laughter tracks but the laughter on friends is hideously unnatural.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,697 ✭✭✭MaceFace


    Overall I was happy. I think people are expecting it to be the best episode in its history. I thought it was very very good - but there was one or two of those moments where you just think - stupid! They make them out to be idiots sometimes.

    I thought the best bit was Ross - "except if we are on a break". Classic.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,738 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    God, it was awful. I hven't seen the series in a while, but it was never as brutal as that in my memory.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 10,247 Mod ✭✭✭✭flogen


    this series has made me lose interest, and i can guess what happens in the end, without even seeing it...

    besides, its not the finale, theyve already recorded (or signed up to record) another episode for this time next year... and I'm sure that wont even be the last.

    Flogen


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,346 ✭✭✭✭KdjaCL


    At 2 million for a ad during it ,and massive sell on to toher countries be damn sure its not the end of it.

    kdjac


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8 September


    I haven't seen it but I have found the last three (I think it's three - since M+C got together) series have been really dissappointing. It's like they had made every single silly joke they could have up until then, and then they just ran out of steam. Shame, because I loved it before then.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 322 ✭✭Kobie


    So where the hell are the spoilers this thread promised? I feel cheated.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,464 ✭✭✭daveyjoe


    There was none really except ...
    Ross and Rachael get back together at the end and Monica and Chandler have twin babies

    That's all I can think of really.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 322 ✭✭Kobie


    Hmmm, kinda boring really. Perhaps I was wrong to wish for a blazing inferno on an airship while they all tell each other what they _really_ think.

    So that's the end of the show, how long do we have to wait until every gobsh!te stops talking like them. It's SO not cool.

    Like, y'know?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,027 ✭✭✭alleepally


    It's out on dvd today at amazon


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 235 ✭✭Go Figure!


    In case you live on another planet and don't know the first chance to see the finale legally in this country is on Network Two tonight at 9.30 (note different time). I will let you know what I think of it on this thread afterwards. I have also recorded the tonight show edition with the actors from a couple of weeks ago and I plan to watch it for the first time after tonights finale. Should be a great night!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 28,128 ✭✭✭✭Mossy Monk


    oh boy, i can't wait

    I CAN'T WAIT


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,027 ✭✭✭alleepally


    A whole 10 years since I saw the first ep on Channel4 one night. hard to believe. I shall post my thoughts also.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,808 ✭✭✭Ste.phen


    man this sucks. so badly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,483 ✭✭✭Töpher


    Man, I was expecting something good. I really was, ok, so I lied, but I was hoping for something good!


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 18,004 Mod ✭✭✭✭ixoy


    Well that wasn't worth it. Seriously. There were so many logic problems (plot contrivance) and moments of idiocy. Actualy, of hand, did Rachel say what she did with her child? Did she kill it? I could go in but I'm weary.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,808 ✭✭✭Ste.phen


    worst. episode. ever.

    Sersiously, even ignoring the plot holes, the acting was worse than usual :P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 428 ✭✭skipn_easy


    I liked it, not one of the best ever but a good way to end it. Its not like we weren't expecting plot holes...

    And Rachel gave her kid to her mother for a couple of days. She was supposed to bring her over to paris once she'd settled.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,455 ✭✭✭weemcd


    omg that was reli stupid, everyone who has seen it knows what im talking about, stupidest plot ever. it wasnt a good episode, tbh i expected better from the season finale.

    I have to say i thought ross was actually good, his lines came over quite convincing, very powerfull


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 293 ✭✭Buck Owens


    let me assure you that was on the internet within minutes registering my disgust throughout the world.....

    It were crap,complete anti climax.

    Joey was still great though


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,488 ✭✭✭SantaHoe


    Originally posted by ixoy
    Actualy, of hand, did Rachel say what she did with her child? Did she kill it? I could go in but I'm weary.
    Yeah, she said that her mother was going to take Emma to Paris a few days after, so Rachel could set up properly.

    I thought it was a decent episode, I haven't been watching it regularly for the last two seasons, so I wasn't expecting that much really.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,265 ✭✭✭Seifer


    I thought it was alright. I wasn't expecting the last episode to be very funny, just to wrap up the story, which it did.
    The last scene with them all leaving was pretty strong. Must of been hard for them to act it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,255 ✭✭✭TCamen


    Man I thought the 'Sex & The City' finale earlier this year was lame, but 'Friends' seriously beat it in terms of it's completely predictable crapness.

    Admittedly it wasn't any less funny than the rest of the final season (and probably the bulk of the series) but it was just *so* bland. Was there a 'Friends' season finale in recent times that DIDN'T feature a hospital/airport?!

    Everytime Joey opened his mouth I cringed thinking that soon he'll be the STAR of a sitcom *shudder*


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,352 ✭✭✭funky penguin


    Originally posted by Igy
    worst. episode. ever.

    Sersiously, even ignoring the plot holes, the acting was worse than usual :P

    What plot holes?


  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47,352 ✭✭✭✭Zaph


    Lame and predictable


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 235 ✭✭Go Figure!


    Well I'm back as promised and the first thing that I want to say is that this final episode of Friends was never going to change peoples minds about this series. Those who have hated and loathed this series for the past ten years are still going to and those who loved it are still going to feel the same way. For me the finale held no surprises. We always knew that Chandler and Monica were going to have babies and end up living in the suburbs together, we always knew Phoebe would do the same, we knew Joey would be unatached and we knew that Ross and Rachel would end up together because that was the logical conclusion of the last ten years. Personally I am glad it finished this way, I didn't want any loose ends left or questions unanswered. I wanted it all wrapped up nicely so I could say wow that was a great series but it is time to move on now. Yes there were plot holes but all TV shows have plot holes. Yes it was short on genuine funny moments, frankly the secound half of this season has been but this finale was never really about that, it was just about saying goodbye and thanks for the memories. There was one funny moment however when Phoebe came up with the excuse for Rachel to get of the plane the first time about the left Filangi been broken, for a second the show had regained its former glory but only for a second. Like most shows in their latter days, its best days were far behind it but I am proud to say that I watched every single episode of it and I will miss it terribly. I hope now that the channels who show it will let it rest in peace with dignity and cut down on the repeat showings of it, though looking at the schedules for the next couple of weeks that seems like a distant prospect.

    P.S I watched the Tonight Show special for the first time last night. It was an okay show, some very funny outtakes which I had never seen before, but the cast looked tired and fed up of talking about the programme particurlurly phoebe who looked like she really didn't want to be there and said as much when she admitted that she tried to cancel out of the programme because of some school event involving her son.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,046 ✭✭✭Dustaz


    Originally posted by funky penguin
    What plot holes?

    oh you know, the plot holes that occur when your so busy saying how much you hate the programme that you miss the dialogue such as "the baby is with my mother". People are falling over themselves to register their disgust on the internet that actually watching the programme takes a back seat.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 18,004 Mod ✭✭✭✭ixoy


    Originally posted by Dustaz
    oh you know, the plot holes that occur when your so busy saying how much you hate the programme that you miss the dialogue such as "the baby is with my mother". People are falling over themselves to register their disgust on the internet that actually watching the programme takes a back seat.
    Actually I called it logic problems/plot contrivance rather than a plot hole, in case I had missed a line. Some other people appear to be falling over themselves to register their "smarts" on the internet that actually fully reading the post takes a back seat.
    The baby thing is still an example of plot contrivance - we can't work it into the show, as they rarely ever did, so we'll shove it into a corner somewhere. The moments of idiocy are points like where a man steps into Pheobe's car/cab and she argues with him rather than just saying Ross is her customer :rolleyes: I know sit-coms are, by definition, about setting up situations but this episode felt particularly forced.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,084 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    That final episode just wasn't funny (except for the bit when Rachel was ringing Ross's voicemail from the plane. Was totally expecting Rachel to be standing behind him when the voice mail was finished playing though, just one of those thoroughly predictable things).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 620 ✭✭✭Kêrmêttê


    I gotta agree with Go Figure... I've watched Friends from the beginning and never missed a show... I've a huge collection of Friends videos/dvds and although I can watch them whenever I want, I will miss the fact that there'll never be any more new seasons.

    Also as the season finale, this was supposed to be a FINAL SHOW... the show to tidy up the characters lives, say good bye, finish things up... This was the last one... the funniest shows have already been made.

    I thought it was a good end. The Pilot didn't have a huge amount of characters in it... no family etc. and I think that the point was that they started a successful show with no fussy format/huge cast and they wanted to finish the same way, ie mostly main cast members only. Maybe I'm wrong, but that was the impression I got.

    As for the last scene where the camera panned round Monica & Chandler's empty appartment... I would have liked to have heard a few "ghostly" snatched conversations that the Friends had in the appartment from previous episodes as we got a last glimpse around the room... I know it's cheesy and twee, but I think it would've been nice.

    And to everyone! Stop complaining 'bout Friends... ur making me cry!! :p hehe!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 28,128 ✭✭✭✭Mossy Monk


    a load of crap tbh


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,255 ✭✭✭TCamen


    For me the finale held no surprises.

    My *only* problem was not with the schmaltz, as already noted, it was expected. I just didn't think that they make enough of an effort to make it FUNNY. I watched the show all the way through, and I learned to dread the hour-long season finales because it meant a plot stretched far longer than needs be, with invariably much less humour.
    I would've been perfectly happy with all the predictable things happening *IF* it had been funnier. Like with 'Sex & The City' finale, they neglected the comedy. I mean, the finale was written by the creators, and those jokes were the best they could come up with?
    I'm only posting to register my disappointment in the sheer bland *ho hum* nature of the finale, not my dislike for the series proper.
    All in all, it was a weak episode, the only saving grace was that there was no forced cliffhanger like the typical season finale.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,488 ✭✭✭SantaHoe


    Well it could have been worse, they could have spent 5 minutes wrapping the plot up... then the rest of the hour using old recycled footage to help the friends talk about all the stuff that happened in the apartment over the years.
    tbh I hope they're still showing repeats well into the next decade... like Cheers :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 455 ✭✭penguinbloke


    but hopefully like Cheers they'll play them in moderation as opposed to the present system of every day


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  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 1,413 ✭✭✭Lady


    I agree with most of you, last night was not the best ending but it worked, it didn't leave you hanging like er on sunday :mad:

    I wish though at the end when they were all standing in Monicas apt. that Ross and Rachel would say that they would move in there it would have been class and keep the apt going so to speak....



    I'll miss you friends :( and Rachels brilliant wardrobe :D



    Rachelx


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,046 ✭✭✭Dustaz


    Originally posted by The Goddess
    and Rachels brilliant wardrobe :D


    Amen



    Oh and ioxy, I can see your years of experience in the field of script editing clearly have the better of me. Please dont let me stop you from getting on with more important things like going to the opera and shouting "WTF, ITS ONLY A LITTLE MASK - SURELY SHE RECOGNISES HIM!!" or maybe pondering how Indiana Jones managed to get into the sub before it submerged.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 448 ✭✭Agent Orange


    Originally posted by Dustaz
    Oh and ioxy, I can see your years of experience in the field of script editing clearly have the better of me. Please dont let me stop you from getting on with more important things like going to the opera and shouting "WTF, ITS ONLY A LITTLE MASK - SURELY SHE RECOGNISES HIM!!" or maybe pondering how Indiana Jones managed to get into the sub before it submerged.

    What the hell are you talking about? I wondered aswell where the hell the kid went... I also wondered how Anna Faris could give up her children so easily like that.

    The writing was plain awful. I spent half the time cringing (though I watched the pilot after it and I was cringing through that aswell - maybe it's over-familiarity with the characters).

    The episode was a total anti-climax. Little thought seems to have gone into it. Compared with the Cheers and especially the Seinfeld finale, this episode sucked.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,718 ✭✭✭whosurpaddy


    Originally posted by The Goddess
    I wish though at the end when they were all standing in Monicas apt. that Ross and Rachel would say that they would move in there it would have been class and keep the apt going so to speak....

    thats exactly what i thought wouldve happened. and then ross and rachel wouldve been in the first series of joey, to give it some familiarity. before moving away and settling down somewhere
    Originally posted by The Goddess
    and Rachels brilliant wardrobe

    she looked hot for the first time in a long time in that episode


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Originally posted by Agent Orange
    The episode was a total anti-climax. Little thought seems to have gone into it. Compared with the Cheers and especially the Seinfeld finale, this episode sucked.
    Ffs, it's a sitcom. Not only that, it's a cheesy sitcom, and it's always been one. The episode had it's share of standard laughs, but it was always going to be "happy happy, everyone lives happily ever after and the masses comment on how nice a show it was, and how much fun they had".

    Didn't put much thought into it? What do think, they just laughed at all their moolah and threw a few pieces of paper at the interns? Of course they put thought into it. It was purposely predictable and shiny.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,352 ✭✭✭funky penguin


    Originally posted by whosurpaddy



    she looked hot for the first time in a long time in that episode

    The Hottset she evr looked was when she lost marcel the monkey while lookin after him in Monicas apartment.

    Remember the mini skirt and the socks? :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,921 ✭✭✭✭Pigman II


    IMHO they really blew it on the final shot in the ep.
    They could have done something really cool and have made the final shot a pan of the empty apartment followed by a zoom in onto those six door keys the friends left behind on the table. It would have made some modicum of sense as well as being quite poignant & symbolic.

    But no! They had make the pictureframe on the door as the final shot just for extra pointlessness.
    Typical of that braindead show.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,265 ✭✭✭Seifer


    I disagree. I thought the keys were a bit contrived, especially the way they all seemed to have different coloured ones (are they power rangers?). They passed over them in the final shot anyway but I thought it was better to finish on a shot that is so instantly recognisable as "Friends".


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 999 ✭✭✭DrunkLeprachaun


    Originally posted by Seifer
    I thought the keys were a bit contrived, especially the way they all seemed to have different coloured ones (are they power rangers?).
    Ooo, that would be a much better spin off than "Joey". The friends cast as power rangers. Fighting evil as they be cutely sarcastic and complain about their love lives, yay!

    Personally, thought the last episode was pretty weak. It just plain wasn't funny, and that's really what I watch comedies for strangely enough. I haven't watched the show for a few years, so I didn't really care too much for the plot, not that I've actually missed anything anyway. I give it six thumbs down.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,613 ✭✭✭Big Nelly


    All shows like that have lame endings.......Sex and the City was the same....seen last episode of Frasier in NY last week and it was useless as well


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,521 ✭✭✭jmcc


    Originally posted by Kêrmêttê
    As for the last scene where the camera panned round Monica & Chandler's empty appartment... I would have liked to have heard a few "ghostly" snatched conversations that the Friends had in the appartment from previous episodes as we got a last glimpse around the room... I know it's cheesy and twee, but I think it would've been nice.
    Are you sure that you are not mixing up the end of Friends with the end of Godfather II?

    Regards...jmcc


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 18,004 Mod ✭✭✭✭ixoy


    Originally posted by neilbrady79
    All shows like that have lame endings.......Sex and the City was the same....seen last episode of Frasier in NY last week and it was useless as well
    Anyone remember Dinosaurs awhile back? That had a great series ending for a show of its type - the dad (or "not the momma") caused the ice age and, at the end, they presumably all died. Charming :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 620 ✭✭✭Kêrmêttê


    Originally posted by jmcc
    Are you sure that you are not mixing up the end of Friends with the end of Godfather II?

    Regards...jmcc

    what a stupid comment! :rolleyes:

    Hmmm... strangely enuff I never remember seeing any of the Corleone's living in a purple 2 bedroomed apt and spending their spare time hanging out in a coffee house... so yes I'm quite sure I'm NOT mixing up anyting...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,521 ✭✭✭jmcc


    Originally posted by Kêrmêttê
    Hmmm... strangely enuff I never remember seeing any of the Corleone's living in a purple 2 bedroomed apt and spending their spare time hanging out in a coffee house... so yes I'm quite sure I'm NOT mixing up anyting...
    Sorry I thought you had actually seen the Godfather trilogy. That kind of flashback (admittedly with a full flashback rather than a purely audio one) was used where Michael Corleone was looking at the old family home in the end of Godfather II. Perhaps watching too much Friends can make you oblvious to lifts from other series and movies. :)

    Regards...jmcc


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 620 ✭✭✭Kêrmêttê


    Originally posted by jmcc
    Sorry I thought you had actually seen the Godfather trilogy. That kind of flashback (admittedly with a full flashback rather than a purely audio one) was used where Michael Corleone was looking at the old family home in the end of Godfather II. Perhaps watching too much Friends can make you oblvious to lifts from other series and movies. :)

    Regards...jmcc

    And again another pointless post.
    This is a thread discussing the Friends Finale.
    Perhaps your patronising has compromised your ability to comprehend what you are reading.
    I've discussed my opinion on the final Friends show... there's no need to try to insult or patronise me, thank you.

    Do you actually have an opinion on the last ever Friends show? If so it would be nice if you could share it with everyone instead of verbally attacking me.


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