Kill Bill Volume 2

User45701

Well today is the day it is out, first screaning in a hour or 2.
I wont be checking this topic myself till friday night cause im going in a big groups of 17 people to go see it.

I created this topic because a poll topic about the movie is better.
I hope the movie is brillent but time will tell.
I am looking forward to this as much as i was reloaded and revulations.

BKtje

I have mixed feelings. It was enjoyable, dont get me wrong but it was'nt nearly as good as i had hoped or expected.

The name of the game was to Kill Bill? After the 2 movies and a long wait in between thats the best they could come up with? No great sword fight or whatever just a i touch your heart and you die after 5 steps.

I was never a fan of the films that it was based on but after the first one i guess my expectations were too high for the second. That said i know a few people who loved it so you should probably ignore me. Ill try to make a more detailed post later.

lodgepole

I think i'll enjoy it more when I watch it a second time. There was a lot to love in it, but for some reason (though I did know better...) I was expecting more of the same, and it certainly isn't that.

ronano

Meh, very few truly redeeming features in it. The dialogue was annoying and self important. I enjoy4ed it because it brought the character from the first one back and i was interested in seeing it. However it was just good and barely that. It's gonna be fun when some net geek cuts them up to form one movie, there were at least 7 scenes that i could say right now held no importance for the story and were pure filler to make it longer, sadly i doubt this will dent him in anyway

ixoy

I enjoyed it. I knew all along that it was different in style, slower in pace, with more dialogue. Still there's some good scenes. I prefer the first but that's me being a style whore.

The Brigadier

Well I thought it was fantastic.

Very well shot. Excllent story. A masterpiece.

lodgepole

Originally posted by ronano
there were at least 7 scenes that i could say right now held no importance for the story and were pure filler to make it longer, sadly i doubt this will dent him in anyway

I hope that when he cuts the two films together (as he says he will do for an eventual DVD release) that he gets rid of a lot of the filler and makes the film (the second part in particular) a whole lot tighter.

yellum

I thought it better than the first. Most people I went with disagreed.

The end of bill was kind of predictable with the exploding heart technique.

I'd like to see it again though as I was in the front row last night and it was a killer.

EDIT: Quentin is presidng over the judging panel at Cannes this year and will be showing Kill Bill with both movies edited together and with the extra footage that only Japanese movie-goers saw first time round. Also apparently the black and white scenes from House of Blue Leaves will be in colour.

Third_Echelon

went to see it yesterday as well...

I thought it was very good... I was expecting a bit more from it though and as others have said the way bill is killed is a bit predictable I have to say...

I think for the two films to be really appreciated as a masterpiece is when we will be able to see it as one film, when the dvd is released...

It is definitely worth going to see though....

hussey

Thought it was brilliant

anyone who is expecting more of the same will be dissapointed,
the style is totally different

The first was a Japenese Samouri style
the second more like a spagetti western style/old style hollywood

peeps

well i loved it.
sure it wasent as all out action as the first one ,so anyone with an attention span of 4 seconds may find the second volume a bit slow.
But it was slower because as she got nearer to catching up with Bill you needed more story and emotion to back up all that revenge.

toffeeman

I really enjoyed it. The ending it slight anti climatic though...

I've never heard a cinema laugh so much then through the Pie Mei (sp?) training scene. Loved the old school camera techniques he used there too.

4 and 1/4 out of 5.

Terminator

I enjoyed it very much. I got my bloody satisfaction so to speak.

Loved just about every scene except

the one where she's asking the spanish guy for directions. That kinda dragged a bit but only cos I couldn't wait to see what happened next.

Definitely going to see it again.

Creon

i have to agree with the likes of James Melody. i thought it was one of the best movies i've ever seen. the word masterpiece comes to mind when thinking about. Wat did you guys think of Pai Mai(spelling may be wrong but you know who i'm talking about), i tyhought he ws very cool and also very funny(with the tossing of the facial hair and the laughing and what-not).

Can't wait for the extended dvd release, as i saw a clip from mtv's screenplay special on kill bill in which bill is dressed in traditional eastern costume and he sticks his sword into the ground as if just finishing a fight!!!,hopefully that'll be in it. Anyone else notice that?

Goodshape

I was expecting more of the same, and I was expecting that to be entertaining, but as hussey said the style and feel to part two is quite differint.

Enjoyed this one far more than the first to be honest. I see now why he choose to split them up (apart from the obvious rakes of cash), and I think it worked out better in the end.

RasTa

Solid 3 out of 5 from me, so dissapointed and masterpeice did not come near my mind after leaving the cinema. So many unwanted scenes that played no part in the movie. The bit in the church, Bit were Madsen goes to work. Were Uma meets bill's "father figure" I'll need to watch it again and i dont need action to keep me entertained. But i was expecting the same jaw droping sense of giddyness when i left the cinema like after the first one and 6months of dying to see it i left thoroughly dissapointed
Liked the Shogun Assasin ref have that flick on dvd, and we needed more Gordon Liu

User45701

Originally posted by James Melody
Well I thought it was fantastic.

Very well shot. Excllent story. A masterpiece.

What he said.

I loved it i will see it probbley 2 more times, it was amazing, im drunk now after seing it with 2 otherppl (big group then pub after) only 1 person ididnt like it.

I loved it pure brillence i cant decide which 1 is better but it is reley just 1 long movie it is like saying is the first hour or the 2nd hour of "speed" better.

It was 1 movie u cant say if the first or 2nd half was better.

I heard there ma be a kill bill 3 made about 20 years from now when uma therman is older and the child of your 1 grows up and comes after her.

every1 knew she knew how to do the 5 finger heart thing but he took 6 steps so i thought he took 5 relaised she did it wrong and then he fake fell down and that he would shoot her.
Also if i where bill i would have stayed in a wheel chair for the rest of my life but he died well.
Also2 i LOVED the charactor or your 1 with the eye patch - 1 of the greatest charactors ever she is pure brillence.

RAIN

I honest to god wasnt looking forward to this movie and i realy realy feel that this movie is a masterpiece,i havnt felt such satisfaction from a film since jenna the movie.The last half an hour is fantastic id say the best iv seen in years if not ever but im sure some film gimp will spend the next hour talking crap about crap.There is more than enough action in this volume and as for the training scene if your a fan of movies like zatoichi yojimbo snake in the eagles shadow etc your gna cream yourself at this movie!!Me and my friend saw david cardine in the turks head on monday at 12 30 .he was showing a lady friend the statues( i dno why) but anyway i didnt enjoy kung fu or any of the crap hes done before but wow he was good in this!!anyway i think anyone who saw this and wasnt happy is in big trouble later on in life.

Sarky

Very nice indeed.

The cheesy dodginess of every old kung fu movie I've seen was perfectly reproduced for the training with Pei Mei, right down to the yellow subtitles and the shouts of "Let's see how your Tiger Crane fares against MY EAGLES CLAW STANCE!!!" style stuff. Perhaps a little predictable for

Beatrix to have learned the 5-point Exploding Heart technique and kill Bill with it

, but what do you expect from a "homage" to every 70's martial arts film ever made?

I couldn't help it, but I ended up really liking Bill. He was an evil murderer, sure, but the man had style and a sense of humour.

User45701

I liked him aswell. but by far the best charactor is the wommon with the eye patch - amazing person.

Funky

It was 'okay'... no chance its a masterpiece in my eyes, the film dragged on needlessly. Everyone liked it but everyone was pretty disappointed(

we knew it wasnt going to be a bloodbath like the first

)...

Although

I really liked how Bill died, not the actual doing of the 5point explodey heart thingy but when he walks off knowing exactly whats going to happen, kinda of heroic in a way...

Goodshape

Originally posted by User45701
it is like saying is the first hour or the 2nd hour of "speed" better.
[/spoiler]

The first hour. The second hours ****e.

Bacchus

Loved every second of it. Definitely slower than the first volume but the story was so engrossing and the dialogue was great especially Pei Mei and the scenes with Bill.

The last scenes between him and Uma were top notch - The superhero story was great.
I really like that Bill was killed with the 5point exploding heart thing. Another sword fight would have made it all a little repetative.
Any one notice Samual L. Jackson as the guy in the church playing the organ/piano.
My favourite scene has to be when she was being buried alive, it was just handled so brilliantly.

Anyway, excellent finish to an excellent movie. Go see it.

blondie83

I thought the two films complemented each other very well. Vol 1 had more action, and vol 2 had more of a storyline. The ideal thing would be to watch them one after the other, so it will be great when we can get the merged DVD. Will cut out a lot of the padding from vol2 as well. There were a good few funny quotes in the film as well, especially when Bill is explaining why he attacked the chapel:

"I'm a murdering bastard, and there are serious consequences to breaking the heart of a murdering bastard"

Also thought the attention to detail was excellent. Tarantino really focuses on the little things.

Mr E

Fantastic movie .... blew me away.

Looking forward to seeing it as it was meant to be seen - as one movie. I'm guessing it'll be xmas before the 'full' movie is out on DVD.

milltown

Originally posted by Third_Echelon
went to see it yesterday as well...

I thought it was very good... I was expecting a bit more from it though and as others have said the way bill is killed is a bit predictable I have to say...

I think for the two films to be really appreciated as a masterpiece is when we will be able to see it as one film, when the dvd is released...

It is definitely worth going to see though....

Bill dies!!??

You've ruined it for me now. Why can't you use spoilers like everybody else?

carbonkid

great film but i still think i was disappointed compared to the first vol.
i know it wasnt ment to be like vol1 but the crasy 88 scene will forever in my eyes be the scene to remember!!!

i felt like it was goin to be a long film from the appearence of vol1 but vol2 felt like "ok lets wrap this up".

vol2 was alot more tarantino style,the one scene that really impressed me was the fight scene between "the bride" and elle driver that rocked

and someone please tell me how to use a spoiler cause i cant find it on newbie faq

User45701

Then you type your spoiler then close with [\spoiler] except use / instead of \

crowl

Yeh i enjoyed it loads. Lots of great scenes and quotes. Pai Mei was great as was the bit where

Budd buried her alive.

carbonkid

Originally posted by User45701

Then you type your spoiler then close with [\spoiler] except use / instead of \

thanx

did anyone else love the noise the audience made when she squished elle's eyeball barefooted

TCamen

Saw it on Thursday. I knew going in that it was gonna be more talky, giving more plot than action. As enjoyable as it was, I still found it a little *too* talky, and as people have noted, there are some scenes that could be easily edited, or deleted entirely.
Still though, Pai Mei training was really entertaining, as were the scenes with Elle Driver (Darryl Hannah).
Wouldn't call it a classic because it could be a much tighter, more focused movie. That being said, I still really enjoyed it, and the humour was spot on

I shall be interested in seeing the edited 'one' Kill Bill movie when it arrives. Vol. 2 is the one I think things that can be easily trimmed are more apparent on first viewing. I wonder how the final edit will leave things? Will it be a case of editing Vol. 2 more than Vol.1....

flogen

really enjoyed it, not quite a masterpiece, but excellent.

to the person that says how the bud working scenes were pointless, i disagree, i think it develops the character, you see just how crap his life is.
Also, its classic tarantino to make you love the bad guy...:D

I look forward to the DVD release of the 2 together, should be interesting to watch.

Flogen

User45701

We have a long wait for the DVD box set, probbley a christmass release.
All i know is i will make use of my UGC unlimited cinima card and see this movie allot more times

Kain

This was a really good film, and i thought that it was much better then the first. I think that some of it was really funny. Really good.

dudara

For a film full of dialogue and talking, where was the snappy Tarantino repatoire? This was bad, and a waste of my night and money.

Mai Pei was a redeeming feature, but just about the only one.

Tarantino has let himself down big time with this one. Why the inconsistent character development? We see the full story in Vol 1 of Oren Ishi, and a little bit of Daryl Hannah's character in vol 2, but he manages to ignore copperhead, budd etc giving us no insight into them. This makes the whole film uneven and ill-balanced.

and why would the "deadliest woman" on the planet go storming into a trailer, sword held high, and not be expecting someone to be standing there with a shotgun

Kain

Speaking of Tarantino, did anybody see him in this movie? He usually makes an appearance in all his films.

And my favorite part was

When Mai Pei smacks The Bride over the head with his cain when she stops punching the peice of wood

Grom

Tarantino has let himself down big time with this one. Why the inconsistent character development? We see the full story in Vol 1 of Oren Ishi, and a little bit of Daryl Hannah's character in vol 2, but he manages to ignore copperhead, budd etc giving us no insight into them. This makes the whole film uneven and ill-balanced

Exactly what he said. To me it is exactly like the matrix. I think he may even have been influenced by the box office in order for more profits. Vol 1 was amazing 2 was just a let down.

Like I said feels like the matrix all over again.


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User45701

She appeared for more then 5 min - she was brillent this movie was amazing.
It was a brillent well written movie.
Matrix, is a Amazing movie just like kill bill volume 1 and 2
Matrix reloaded, Matrix revulations are good movies.

Grom, My name is User45701, on boards.ie when you are making a post bellow where is says Submit reply you can scroll down the page and read the other posters posts. It also tells you there name.
You also called me a "****ing moron"
1.That is abuse and against board rules.
2.dont ever speak to me like that again.

Grom

Smb you in-subordinate entity. You’re an illiterate **** who does nothing but spam **** 24/7; you can’t comprehend a ****ing sentence never mind a period!

However that said you’ve probably been abused as a child.
And if you didn't notice the play on your name was actually ****ing intentional you dumb ****.

I realize that I am going to get banned for a week for this but it is well worth it to be honest.

tman

ban them both from boards for 6 months. stern but fair.

Grom

Agreed, I mean its drastically hard to make a new account and go through a proxy. :rolleyes:

tman

speaking from experience, eh?

thats worth another 6 months

ionapaul

Saw Vol. 2 on Sunday afternoon - wasn't such a fan of Vol. 1 but was dragged to this! Not impressed at all, waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too long, some of the acting was sub-par, the Pai Mei part was the only redeeming feature IMO. Tarantino can be such a ****...he did direct two good movies at the start of his career though.

User45701

Originally posted by Grom
Smb you in-subordinate entity. You’re an illiterate **** who does nothing but spam **** 24/7; you can’t comprehend a ****ing sentence never mind a period!

However that said you’ve probably been abused as a child.
And if you didn't notice the play on your name was actually ****ing intentional you dumb ****.

I realize that I am going to get banned for a week for this but it is well worth it to be honest.

You must have me confused with someone elce. Nothing you said related to me mabe ur taking to someone called Smb, i looked but no posts by someone called sbm , mabe he delted his post...

dudara

Matrix reloaded, Matrix revulations are good movies.

rofl

lodgepole

Originally posted by ionapaul
Tarantino can be such a ****...he did direct two good movies at the start of his career though.

You don't rate Jackie Brown then? I think it's his best film, it's certainly my favorite of them.

Chinafoot

i saw it yesterday to cheer myself up after my exam and i have to say it did the trick. at first i thought the end was a bit of an anti-climax but when i thought about i think it was quite apt and was actually quite moving.

the first was better for action but they're two completely different movies and are each excellent in their own way.

also i think we did get to see some of the life of vivica fox's character when she went to the nice house in the nice suburb and we saw the nice family home she had.
and i suppose if tarantino does make another one with the daughter then we'll see a bit more.

all in all i thought it was excellent.

projectmayhem

i thought the movie was a great movie, but lacking compared to volume 1. it's still a great movie, with more of the classic dialog that lacked in the first, but had too little action. i was expecting more from pai mei (or whatever his name is)... but he was funny as hell.

can't wait for the box set

(i hope the rumours of a third installment are false)

BKtje

spoiler: and why would the "deadliest woman" on the planet go storming into a trailer, sword held high, and not be expecting someone to be standing there with a shotgun

Especially after the guy she was after was alerted to a possible intruder.


Could someone tell me what was in those shotgun shells that your man fired at her.
She had blood all over her chest and passed out for a while but after that didnt seem to feel any ill effects from it. Im assuming they were pellets or something.

What was the story with Uma's acting in the last scene where she's

crying on the bathroom floor. I understand he wanted to make it sound like she was half laughing half crying but it just sounded cack.

timeout

I'd seen the trailers and had a good idea of what was happing but....
i liked the movie. I wasn't expecting the same ending but maybe a bit more action then what took place, like a gun fight if its style is based on an old western.

No idea what was in that shotgun but it didn't make much sense. And that was a bit silly to rush into a caravan like that. But the middle action wasn't too bad.

Timeout

tman

Originally posted by B-K-DzR
Especially after the guy she was after was alerted to a possible intruder.


Could someone tell me what was in those shotgun shells that your man fired at her.
She had blood all over her chest and passed out for a while but after that didnt seem to feel any ill effects from it. Im assuming they were pellets or something.

rock salt (couldn't be arsed googling properly... that should give you the gist.)

great film imo, definitely one i'll watch again