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how precautious are you and your gf/bf

  • 12-04-2004 7:15pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,089 ✭✭✭


    i'm quite interested to know what kinda contraception people use if any when with their bf/gf.....

    what do you use 156 votes

    just pill
    0% 0 votes
    just condom
    30% 48 votes
    pill AND condom ALWAYS
    30% 47 votes
    pill AND condom SOMETIMES,
    20% 32 votes
    neither and never
    13% 21 votes
    whats a condom
    5% 8 votes


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 10,247 Mod ✭✭✭✭flogen


    pill and condoms myself.... Im far too paranoid about the whole thing..

    (i also have a theory that the condom in a mans wallet tells you alot about them... e.g. extra safe = paranoid <me>, featherlite = somewhat selfish, ribbed = somewhat generous etc etc)

    Flogen


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,446 ✭✭✭Havelock


    There are many other alternative contraceptive options.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,363 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    but not that many that are actually in regular use in Ireland...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,601 ✭✭✭Kali


    gf can't take the pill so just condoms.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,396 ✭✭✭✭kaimera


    Originally posted by Kali
    gf can't take the pill so just condoms.

    condoms only here too, same reason.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,922 ✭✭✭Dave


    Pill only. HAs been for the past year. Condoms are really expensive when you add it all up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 932 ✭✭✭yossarin


    featherlite = somewhat selfish
    what ? featherlite are fine, and quite safe. never split if used correctly.

    to use a third rock from the sun quote:
    "They were ribbed for her pleasure, so i wore them inside out"

    pill too though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,048 ✭✭✭Lainey


    Originally posted by Havelock
    There are many other alternative contraceptive options.

    exactly.. and they are sometimes a better option.. my contraception is a five year one.. so i asked doc to put in 4.. he didn't get the joke :dunno: :dunno:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,363 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    coil?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 132 ✭✭Sherlock


    Is precautious an actual word?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,363 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    I'd bet my Oxford dictionary that it isn't!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 50 ✭✭Seamie


    Originally posted by Sleepy
    I'd bet my Oxford dictionary that it isn't!

    According to oed.com it is.

    Using precaution; displaying previous or provident caution or care.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,166 ✭✭✭Johnny Versace


    Normally pill.

    Current girlfriend, withdrawal method.

    Yes, very risky, I know.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 42,362 Mod ✭✭✭✭Beruthiel


    Originally posted by Johnny Versace
    Yes, very risky, I know.

    are you ready to be a Dad Johnny?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 41,926 ✭✭✭✭_blank_


    Originally posted by Johnny Versace
    Normally pill.

    Current girlfriend, withdrawal method.

    Yes, very risky, I know.

    Unless you want a baby then you're being an idiot.

    To paraphrase Billy Connolly...."wild horses couldn't make my arse go the other way when that time comes"

    Withdrawal is useless.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,166 ✭✭✭Johnny Versace


    As I said, risky I know, so thanks for the obvious replies :)

    There are reasons she cannot be on the pill, and we don't always have condoms.

    Although...my ex and I used the withdrawal method for 3 years. No babies!

    Is it me or her I wonder...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 222 ✭✭Blue Duck


    Although...my ex and I used the withdrawal method for 3 years. No babies!


    Stupid!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,166 ✭✭✭Johnny Versace


    Originally posted by Blue Duck
    Stupid!!!

    You know, it is possible for a girl to know when she's ovulating.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 222 ✭✭Blue Duck


    yes i'm sure it is, but why take the risk if you don't have to??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,563 ✭✭✭leeroybrown


    Although...my ex and I used the withdrawal method for 3 years. No babies!

    Have you considered a fertility test? ;)

    The withdrawl method is worse than unreliable.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,166 ✭✭✭Johnny Versace


    Originally posted by Blue Duck
    yes i'm sure it is, but why take the risk if you don't have to??

    Well my current GF can't take the pill, and condoms kind of ruin sex for me (when I'm with my girlfriend.)

    They're too tight, break all the time, remove feeling, etc etc...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 41,926 ✭✭✭✭_blank_


    Originally posted by Johnny Versace
    ...and condoms kind of ruin sex for me...

    I think pregnancy would probably be a ruination of the sex life for about a year?
    Originally posted by Johnny Versace
    ...(when I'm with my girlfriend.)


    Do you have sex with other people too?

    If you do then I suggest you start using condoms to protect your girlfriend from STD's you may pick up from these other partners.

    At the end of the day, you are being very irresponsible.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,363 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    You fvcking idiot. So which is it you're looking to be? A father or the cause of an abortion because "condoms kind of ruin sex" for you?

    Sorry, I know this could be considered a flame but idiots like you have caused friends of mine to end up taking boats to England. Think with your brain, not your dick.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,304 ✭✭✭✭koneko


    You know there's more than just 2 methods of contraception :rolleyes:

    It's just very risky is all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,363 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    There are plenty of methods of contraception, but withdrawal is not one of them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 41,926 ✭✭✭✭_blank_


    Withdrawal is one of the best methods of Conception.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 345 ✭✭leonotron


    Originally posted by Beruthiel
    are you ready to be a Dad Johnny?

    Worked for a mate of mine for two years, I was surprised myself that she didnt get pregnant. He never listened to my advice but I guess he was lucky anyways


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,166 ✭✭✭Johnny Versace


    Why does everyone always have to go use the "idiot" argument?

    Firstly, I am not having sex with other people. That's reading way too deep between the lines.

    Secondly, I am not an idiot. Condoms do ruin sex, most people would agree with that. When I'm with a girlfriend, I do not want to use condoms. But she cannot go on the pill. At the moment we are using the withdrawal method and she is monitoring when she is ovulating.

    ...

    This is too much info already. Everyone relax. Chill... Why are you so angry?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,325 ✭✭✭b3t4


    Originally posted by Johnny Versace
    she is monitoring when she is ovulating.

    and what are *you* monitoring exactly!! Are you aware of how long sperm can survive in a human body?? Are you aware of how much sperm is released in precum?? Are you aware that it only takes *one* sperm to fertilize an egg??

    take some responsibility for contraception. Buy loadsa different types of condoms and have fun finding out which one doesn't 'ruin' the sex life. Read up about other types of contraception your girlfriend could use, there are plenty out there.

    Why are you so angry?

    Because there are too many people like you around, which leads to alot more abortions and unplanned pregnancies.

    A.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,569 ✭✭✭maxheadroom


    Originally posted by b3t4
    Are you aware that it only takes *one* sperm to fertilize an egg??

    Hmmm... not so sure about that - thught it took the combined enzymes from many acrosomes (in the head of the sperm) in order to degrade the outer surface of the egg enough to allow one sperm to penetrate and fertilize. Too lazy to go look it up now though...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,048 ✭✭✭Lainey


    Condoms do ruin sex, most people would agree with that.


    eh i kinda agree with johnny here..
    but i will add only in a serious relationship.. (be4 i'm attacked) :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,421 ✭✭✭Doodee


    For ****s sake people.

    Himself and the Girlfriend are agree'd in using the withdrawal method. its their responcibility. Jesus, guys adult enough to know what the risks are.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,133 ✭✭✭Explosive_Cornflake


    I'm feeling sick now. Did withdrawl about two weeks ago. In my defence i was asleep and drunk at the time, i only hope she's on the pill. Not with her anymore now. :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,608 ✭✭✭✭sceptre


    Oh for crying out loud. For a start if Johnny's GF is monitoring her ovulation and monitoring it properly with a thermometer AND if her cycles are regular then they're using the rhythm method[1]. Hopefully by using the sympthothermal rhythm method (keeping track of the regular cycle AND using a thermometer AND checking the cervical mucus, perhaps even using an ovulation predictor test to check out her urine for hormones that indicate impending ovulation as well) - do this and it's completely safe. The withdrawal method (which is as it says - completely different to the rhythm method) is as useless as sin but if she's doing what he says she's doing and she's doing it properly and they're doing the abstinence thing while ovulation is possible then it's completely safe. Not ideal but safe.

    "Safe days" occur two days after ovulation and continue until the next period of menstruation.

    Do not even dream of using this method if you are in your teens (as you have irregular periods) or if you're older and have irregular periods.

    Anyone who posted a rant after Johnny said
    she is monitoring when she is ovulating
    would do well to read a basic medical book (or any biology book) before spouting off.

    The rhythm method has a very high failure rate. That's because most people haven't a clue of how to use it properly or have sex "just that one time" when they know damn well they shouldn't. If it's suitable for you and you fill the criteria and actions I mentioned above, you can pretty much guarantee you won't get pregnant using the method.

    [1]That's why Catholics can dance - they've got rhythm:p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,363 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    How unadventurous are some of you people? There's a lot more to sex than just penetration. If condoms "ruin" sex, are you sure you're doing it right? Or are you just using the wrong kinds of condoms? Yes, penetration is more enjoyable without a condom, still, that loss of sensation is worth the prevention of the alternative. Fine, if you're in a commited relationship where having another child isn't a major issue use withdrawal if you like. Otherwise it's a mistake waiting to happen. There's a whole heap of different forms of contraception out there, surely at least one of them would suit you and your partner?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,770 ✭✭✭Bottle_of_Smoke


    Condoms do ruin sex, most people would agree with that.

    yeah but in another way so does the withdrawal method


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,363 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    sceptre, you cannot ever use the words "completely safe" with reference to the rhythm method. It's about 95% effective when adhered to perfectly, that said, many, many things can affect a woman's ovulation: living with other women, stress, illness, etc. etc. etc.

    It's something, but it's nowhere near as effective as the pill/condom...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,518 ✭✭✭✭dudara


    The rhythm method made catholic Ireland what it is today! I wonder how many of us would be here if our parents actually used real contraception??

    The rhythm method depends on too many variables, such as stress levels etc and what she ate for breakfast to be truly reliable.

    I'm in a 4 1/2 year relationship. The first year was spent using condoms, but to be quite honest, they're too damn expensive in this country and no fun, so I've been on the pill for 3 1/2 years. I was dubious about starting to take it as some women experience a lot of mood swings and libido loss with some pills, but I've never had any problems.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,174 ✭✭✭D


    GF and I use pill and condom. The pill for contraception and the condom is more for "less mess" than std prevention or contraception.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    i am on the pill and was usin condoms when i am with anyone. with someone two weeks ago and the condom burst and i am petrified that i could be pregnant. period due any day now. at least i hope for my sake that it is

    i dont see how anyone could be comfortable with the withdrawel method. i mean im afraid and im using more protection than most ppl!!!!!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 318 ✭✭qwertyphobia


    I got a visectomy done last year


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,450 ✭✭✭AngelofFire


    pulling out just doesnt work i mean who wants to withdraw when they are just about to come. the best is probably the old rubber it works 92% of the time as a conctraceptive and even if sperm do escape the count is so low that the chances of conception are low. but always use discretion make sure

    1)you know how to put one on properly(they should really teach this in schools)
    2)that you inspect it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 448 ✭✭Agent Orange


    Abstinence is the best and only 100% reliable method of preventing pregnancies.

    Have some respect for yourselves and wait until you're married before you engage in this sort of thing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,513 ✭✭✭Sleipnir


    Originally posted by Agent Orange
    Abstinence is the best and only 100% reliable method of preventing pregnancies.

    Have some respect for yourselves and wait until you're married before you engage in this sort of thing.


    where's the fun in that? Go at it like rabbits.
    Plus, you need about €20,000 to get married these days.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 42,362 Mod ✭✭✭✭Beruthiel


    lets get this back on topic thanks
    B


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,363 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    Originally posted by Agent Orange
    Abstinence is the best and only 100% reliable method of preventing pregnancies.

    Have some respect for yourselves and wait until you're married before you engage in this sort of thing.
    Yes Father, and would you like another alter boy whilst your at it?:rolleyes:

    [back to topic]
    I ALWAYS have a condom in my wallet and if I think I'm gonna get lucky on a night out, I'll buy more in the bathroom or whatever. It's just plain common sense!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,513 ✭✭✭Sleipnir


    Originally posted by Johnny Versace
    she is monitoring when she is ovulating.


    Yeah my gf and I did that.
    Now, we have a son. He's one and a half.

    Withdrawal is not a method of contraception and it is only a matter of time before you learn that the hard way.
    You know it yourself and you owe it to both of you to use condoms.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 163 ✭✭DUX


    It happened to me a few of times to go for a "first date" and not expecting anything to happen that night (how naive!) and therefore I didn't bring comdoms with me. Later we ended up in bed, but I noticed that if I didn't say "no" to go all the way without comdoms, most of the time girls are willing to take the chance....I was really surprised about it because when you hear women talking it looks like all men "think with their dick" rather than with their brain, however I believe the same statement is valid for women, maybe even worse sometimes. The same happened in some one night stands with girls just met in a night club (although I didn't have many).......of course no way I am going to have unprotected sex with a girl I just met in a club, but I admit that I may take the chance with a girl I go out for a few dates with (I know it is stupid!).

    I am not an expert in women contraception, but my ex girlfriend was using a strange pill or something (quite smelly) as external protection, any idea what it is? I never asked her for some reason. Now don't make fun of me, I am just wondering if someone knows it?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,414 ✭✭✭LoneGunM@n


    Originally posted by Sleepy
    ALWAYS have a condom in my wallet

    Probably an urban legend, but I heard that it's a bad idea to carry condoms in your wallet, as they can become corrupted by sweat :confused:

    My significant other and I use both the pill and condoms ... pisses her off no end because she hates condoms, but 1 scare was enough for me*

    *how was I supposed to know that antibiotocs can cause the pill to fail :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,166 ✭✭✭Johnny Versace


    I kind of mentioned this earlier, but do you guys not find condoms to be EXTREMELY unreliable?

    I'd say they break for me at least 50% of the time.

    They seem to only work when the sex is a quickie. Anything longer than 5 minutes and they snap.

    Is this just me?

    Oh, and this happens with every girl, not just one "dry" girl in particular or something.


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